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Seriously, more of a medical oddity than anything titilating. So to speak.
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I am sorry, but this movie reads AWESOME. It’s not fashionable to say, but I love Bay’s movies like The Rock, Transformers, for what they are: Summer Movie Go Boom Awesome.
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Methinks the native are getting restless. Nice touch, mentioning the right of free speech while the lady gets hauled away.
Michael Bay’s Rejected “The Dark Knight” Script
Are you fukcing kidding, Oliver? That was a small step away from Batman and Robin, possibly the worst superhero movie ever made. Just in those few pages I don’t think he could have crammed in anymore cliches with a crowbar.
Crap, pure and simple.
Re: In The Case Of A Water Landing, Your Seat Can Be Used As A Flotation Device
I like the caption: “Download the Large Size.” I think my computer would break.
Crap, pure and simple.
Agreed. Bay is entertaining with the right material, even if his movies feel like two-hour trailers to me. Lots of helicopter shots of the Pentagon, presidents and defense secretaries giving inspiring speeches, high-level military guys staring at ominous radar screens. The director of Memento and Insomnia was born to make Batman movies (Batman Begins was better than all the Burton/Schumacher editions put together); I just wish he made them faster.
Michael Bay gets a bad rap, in my opinion. With the exception of Armageddon, I’ve enjoyed all of his movies.
In The Case Of A Water Landing, Your Seat Can Be Used As A Flotation Device
That just looks to me like something has been shoved up there for the photo.
Raw Video: Bush Heckled at July 4th Speech
Yeah, Bush mentioning free speech as the heckler is hauled away was a nice irony coming as it was from one of the heaviest users of “Free Speech Zones“.
Longer version of the heckling story:
“Code Pink” nutcase Desiree Farooz, who assaulted Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice during a Congressional hearing in October 2007, attempts to wreck citizenship ceremony for new Americans.
In case you’ve forgotten, she was the psycho who got into a congressional hearing room and got close enough to place her hands — red with “blood” — around Secretary Rice’s head before security finally got off their asses and hauled her away.
This woman is a narcissistic nutcase, and sooner or later she’s going to hurt someone — or herself.
J.
Michael Bay’s Rejected “The Dark Knight” Script
It isn’t real. From the title page that mentions Michael Bay six times (”by Michael Bay, featuring dialog scripted by Michel Bay” What? they left out “on paper touched by Michel Bay”?) to the camera zooming in an out on Rachel’s breasts “emphatically, a number of times” to the camera entering slow motion “seventeen times” as the Batmobile narrowly misses civilians.
It’s obviously a satire of Bay movies. Impressive only in that it was able to out do Bay.
Best thing about Bay: He has a sense of humor about himself.
Michael Bay gets a bad rap, in my opinion.
If he writes like that all the time, deservedly so.
It isn’t real.
Aww, crap. Please to excuse me. I got pwned.
Jay Tea:
Did she actually place her hands on Rice? If not, it is not assault. Just because you stick your hands in front of someone, and don’t touch them, is not assault. Do you consider Jesse Helms a sick man? Fred Phelps?
No, Calvin, what you describe is “battery.” The legal definition of assault, via http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/22542B6F-FEDB-450A-889A82A49EA50CEB:
Here’s the video. You don’t need to see more than the first ten seconds, if you’re short of time:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8EaH4U8ozEg
That whackjob got past Congressional security and got within INCHES of the woman who’s 4th in line for the presidency. Hell, she had enough time to attack and injure — possibly kill — Rice. I’ve seen footage of the Reagan assassination attempt; she had LOTS more time than Hinkley had.
Had I been Bush, after that incident I’d have said not one single member of the administration would set foot on Capitol Hill without some MAJOR improvements of security.
I had my say about Helms in the posting about his death. Phelps and his ilk, I’d say, are a pretty good analog to the Code Pink assholes.
One major difference: the Phelps assholes don’t have any support anywhere. SOMEONE keeps giving Code Pink passes into Congressional hearings. SOMEONE (in this case, the Berkley City Council) gave Code Pink that free parking place right in front of the Marine recruiting station.
Wanna stick up for Code Pink, Calvin? Show YOUR true colors!
J.
Shorter Jay Tea: Anyone who disagrees with Dear Leader is a nutjob who should be locked up.
I think one of the best contributions that Wesley Clark has provided the Democrats is by going on FOX News and forcefully, masterfully speaking truth to power. Demonstrating that us Dems are smart, brave, patriotic.
If Edwards is as good in the debates as he apparently was as a litigator, then any debates should also be a good thing.
The more we see the Clarks, Edwards, and Schectors smartly and fearlessly taking on the Republicans the better. The less we see of ridiculous Democrats who know little, are eager to compromise, and seek mainly airtime for themselves, the better. (It’s appalling to read day after day in Greenwald’s columns of Democrats that seeming don’t know squat about FISA and yet are eager for their face time.)
“Raw Video: Bush Heckled at July 4th Speech
Yeah, Bush mentioning free speech as the heckler is hauled away was a nice irony coming as it was from one of the heaviest users of “Free Speech Zones“.”
Yeah, I got that too. I was hoping, though I understand why he didn’t, that Obama and the Convention would do away with free speech zones in Denver.
(Those flotation devices are hideous.)
My earlier comment is stuck in the moderation cue, so I’m going to re-post it without the links.
No, Calvin, what you describe is “battery.” The legal definition of assault, via (link to nolo.com deleted, but feel free to find your own legal definition)
That whackjob got past Congressional security and got within INCHES of the woman who’s 4th in line for the presidency. Hell, she had enough time to attack and injure — possibly kill — Rice. I’ve seen footage of the Reagan assassination attempt; she had LOTS more time than Hinkley had.
See for yourself; go to Youtube and search for “Rice Pink” and several versions of the incident will pop right up.
Had I been Bush, after that incident I’d have said not one single member of the administration would set foot on Capitol Hill without some MAJOR improvements of security.
I had my say about Helms in the posting about his death. Phelps and his ilk, I’d say, are a pretty good analog to the Code Pink assholes.
One major difference: the Phelps assholes don’t have any support anywhere. SOMEONE keeps giving Code Pink passes into Congressional hearings. SOMEONE (in this case, the Berkley City Council) gave Code Pink that free parking place right in front of the Marine recruiting station.
Wanna stick up for Code Pink, Calvin? Show YOUR true colors!
J.
the Phelps assholes don’t have any support anywhere
Really?
Really?
Really?
I’m no fan of Code Pink, but let’s not pretend that “God hates fags” isn’t an organizing principle of the conservative right.
I don’t see a single mention of Phelps or Westboro on any one of those links you gave, Oliver. And a casual Googling didn’t show a single reference of DeLay, Santorum, or Focus on the Family offering the assholes any sort of support or sympathy.
I find it rather telling that your showing your dislike of Code Pink involves a link to the Daily Show, and not one of your own comments. Conversely, over at Wizbang, every single time we’ve mentioned the Westboro Assholes (which I, personally, try to avoid, as they’re attention whores of the first order), we’ve condemned them.
The Westboro Assholes get their way because they threaten to sue anyone at the drop of a hat. Code Pink gets their way because people like certain members of Congress and the City Council of Berkley LIKE them and APPROVE of what they do.
Other than that, no, I don’t see much of a difference in the two.
J.
Wow…great links, Oliver. Now maybe you could provide some links that actually demonstrate your point.
Unless you’re arguing that it’s OK for someone on the right to link to anti-war groups and claim that they must “support” the anti-American groups that also oppose the war. Because sharing some points of belief must mean that you support all the radical groups, right?
In fact, Phelps hated Reagan and Falwell. I guess you’ll have to provide a link to your site as a supporter of Phelps. Let’s not pretend that anti-Reagan and anti-Falwell beliefs aren’t an organizing principal of the liberal left.
Good grief, Oliver, you are losing it. I am not a fan of Delay, Santorum, or FOTF, but none of the links you gave show any kind words for the Phelps radicals.
I don’t think Oliver was suggesting a direct link, only that the two individuals and one group to which he linked had expressed similar sentiments (although in a somewhat more diplomatic and less extreme fashion) to the Phelps goblins. Just a guess… That’s how I read it…
Unless you’re arguing that it’s OK for someone on the right to link to anti-war groups and claim that they must “support” the anti-American groups that also oppose the war.
They don’t need my permission they always do that.
And if you don’t think that the religious right and the Phelps crowd are preaching the same message and wish for the same goals, you’ve been dancing around with your head up your rear.
I linked to the Daily Show story about Code Pink because its funny and it illustrates why people like me don’t like them. Sorry if I don’t do the conservative faux outrage du jour like Malkin and Co.
OK, lemme see how this works:
I say that Code Pink gets plenty of support from leftists, and cite examples.
Oliver says that their counterpart on the right, the Phelps assholes from Westboro, enjoy much the same from the right.
I challenge him to show some groups that support the Phelps assholes.
He names two prominent conservatives and a conservative group, merely offering their web sites as “proof.”
I go looking at those sites he links to and see nothing about Phelps or Westboro and find nothing.
I go Googling to find links between them and the Phelps assholes and find nothing.
Oliver pronounces that the mere fact that those folks and the Phelps groups share a similar general ideological bent is more than sufficient.
Gee, where have I heard such broad-brushing before?
I guess since Oliver opposes the war, he is just like Saddam Hussein, because he didn’t want the US to invade, either.
Since he doesn’t like Dick Cheney, he’s no better than the psychos at Democratic Underground and The Huffington Post who want him to die.
Since he isn’t worried about Iran developing and using nuclear weapons, then he wants Israel to get nuked.
Gee, this is fun! And it requires almost NO thinking!
Oliver, I specifically said “the Phelps assholes don’t have any support anywhere.” “Support,” meaning, traditionally, words or deeds that express an agreement with their message, their goals, their actions. Like, say, Code Pink being granted free use of a parking space in front of the Marine recruiting station or given passes to Congressional hearings.
You got anything like THAT, or are you just gonna find new conservatives to smear? Or new ways to smear the conservatives you’ve already smeared?
My position on both Code Pink and the Phelps assholes is well documented. I think I have slightly more contempt and loathing for the Phelps assholes, but it’s the difference between fresh dogshit and ten-minute-old dogshit, as far as I’m concerned.
J.
“I guess since Oliver opposes the war, he is just like Saddam Hussein, because he didn’t want the US to invade, either.”
You (Jay Tea) write this in a sarcastic context, of course, but this kind of thinking is not non-existent on the right; for example, Michael Reagan (hardly a fringe figure), has actually labeled those in Congress who oppose the Iraq War as “domestic insurgents.”
daniel, I’ll tag a couple of them with that label. Let’s start with John Murtha, who pronounced the Haditha Marines guilty of murder and all sorts of war crimes long before they had their trial… and so far, each and every one of those trials has come back with a “not guilty” verdict.
I’m waiting for one of those Marines to sue Murtha for defamation and slander over it…
But back to the subject at hand: could someone pull Oliver out of the hole he dug himself into and find SOME group with some standing that back up the Phelps/Westboro assholes?
J.
Jay Tea, by that standard, no lynchings ever occurred in the south either. After all, all those nice white boys got acquitted by all those nice white juries, so no foul. Right?
So, soul, you’re saying that our military’s system of justice is the equivalent of the Old South segregationist system? That they aren’t capable of rendering justice and coming to fair verdicts?
Interesting view of the armed forces you have there, soul. Especially considering that they are (justly) proud of their integrated status, their development of as pure a color-blind meritocracy as we have ever seen.
But I’m STILL waiting so see someone come up with some group that supports Phelps and the Westboro assholes…
J.
When you construct these elaborate scenarios in your head do you really believe them or are you just playing a really long running version of Punk’d?
I pull them out of the same place you pulled your “the Westboro assholes have tons of support out there,” Oliver.
You want an actual answer? Then say something specific.
Come on, I laid out the support Code Pink enjoys — the Berkley City Council gave them a parking space for free for their permit, and even passed a resolution praising them over the Marines. Can’t you find SOMEONE (of some prominence and/or authority) to back up your assertion?
I thought not.
J.
I have to raise the question, mostly out of a lack of familiarity with Code Pink - Is this even a fair comparison? Are they as extremist as Westboro? I could be wrong but this almost strikes me as saying ‘Some mainstream Liberals support Dennis Kucinich but mainstream Conservatives don’t support the Council of Conservative Citizens.’
My first impulse is that they aren’t as extreme as Westboro, but that isn’t based on much scientific. Last I read a majority of Americans still agreed with Code Pink’s core issue (that the war had been a bad idea), while I don’t think a majority of Americans agree with Westboro that 9/11 was punishment or God hates homosexuals.
“daniel, I’ll tag a couple of them with that label. Let’s start with John Murhta…”
Reagan’s use of the “domestic insurgents” smear label was in the broad context of those in Congress who opposed the war. He wasn’t narrowly speaking about a single anti-war-in-Iraq congressman and his remarks about the Haditha Marines (although, even if he was, unlike Jay, I still think the label is inappropriate).
daniel, I thought that I implied a disagreement with such broad-brushing, but it slipped past you. So I’ll say it explicitly: I disagree with it. I think that there are people who have sincere, valid, legitimate, ethical reasons why they opposed the war, both then and now.
I’ll even grant that one or two of them might be in Congress.
I have neither time nor interest to keep track of and render judgment on everything every conservative commentator says, so I can properly embrace or condemn each and every one. (If I did, then Media Matters would be out of business and their employees would have to find honest work for a change.)
If you wanna obsess on that line, then, about “domestic insurgents,” I’d apply it to people like Michael Moore (who said the terrorists in Iraq were “the moral equivalent” of our Founding Fathers), the anti-war protesters who tout signs that say things like “WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS — ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FRAG THEIR OFFICERS,” who encourage members in the military to desert instead of doing their duty, and the like.
And I’m STILL waiting for someone to show the Phelps/Westboro assholes some kind of support that even comes close to that Code Pink commands.
I’ll even give you one bad example: Fox News once gave them about half an hour on the air to rant their heads off. That was part of a deal — they got the Fox time in exchange for NOT showing up to “protest” the funeral of a soldier killed in Iraq. Fox made it abundantly clear that they weren’t endorsing their message, but were essentially capitulating to emotional blackmail.
Parthenon, if you want one example of how loathsome Code Pink is, for a while they were holding their “peace rallies” outside Walter Reed Hospital. That was where they thought their “message” would do the most good, and hearing that message was far more important to the wounded troops inside than anything else — such as, say, their recovery from injuries suffered while serving their nation.
J.
daniel, I’ll tag a couple of them with that label. Let’s start with John Murtha, who pronounced the Haditha Marines guilty of murder and all sorts of war crimes long before they had their trial… and so far, each and every one of those trials has come back with a “not guilty” verdict.
I’m sure it’ll be a great relief to Aisha Younis Salim, the three-year-old girl with a big hole in her chest. Since all those folks were found “not guilty,” she’ll get to go on with her life, right Mr. Tea?
According to Quaker, all a terrorist has to do is shot out of a window with a little girl next to him and he gets free shots at anyone. The terrorists using children as shields get no blame from our troop supporting leftists. How shocking.
QiB, are you actually suggesting that the military might not render a fully just verdict when their own reputation is on the line?
I’m shocked. Shocked to find white washing going on.
“the anti-war protesters who tout signs that say things like “WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS — ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FRAG THEIR OFFICERS,””
Cite? Looking for something like the above.
“Parthenon, if you want one example of how loathsome Code Pink is, for a while they were holding their “peace rallies” outside Walter Reed Hospital. That was where they thought their “message” would do the most good, and hearing that message was far more important to the wounded troops inside than anything else — such as, say, their recovery from injuries suffered while serving their nation.”
Wow, imagine someone protesting for peace outside of a hospital where maimed soldiers reside. Oh the humanity. Yep, that’s the moral equivalent of disrupting a military funeral with anti-gay hate. NOT.
“daniel, I’ll tag a couple of them with that label. Let’s start with John Murtha, who pronounced the Haditha Marines guilty of murder and all sorts of war crimes long before they had their trial… and so far, each and every one of those trials has come back with a “not guilty” verdict.”
Is their anything that JT posts that doesn’t have to do with some past wingnut faux-outrage?
all a terrorist has to do is shot out of a window with a little girl next to him and he gets free shots at anyone.
Too bad for young Aisha that she was used as a human shield. The terrorists were especially caution that day apparently. They seemed to have also been hiding behind Aisha’s mother, father, three sisters, one brother, and an infant staying with them. Must’ve been pretty crowded around that window.
And that’s just the dead in ONE house.
Oh, and JWG? Even after all those folks–still in their pajamas–were killed, how many “terrorists” did we have to show for it?
JWG smears QIAB as a “typical leftist who hates the military” in 3,2,1…
Vanity Fair magazine actually did a pretty good article on Haditha titled, “Rules of Engagement.”