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	<title>Comments on: Fox News Employee In Trouble For Publicly Expressing Network&#8217;s Pro-McCain Stance</title>
	<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/</link>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94331</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Sean.  It's just that these mistakes shatter the illusion that I'm perfect (just kidding).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Sean.  It&#8217;s just that these mistakes shatter the illusion that I&#8217;m perfect (just kidding).</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94318</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to daniel rotter: We all make typos and small grammatical slips.  Nobody worries about it.  You needn't either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to daniel rotter: We all make typos and small grammatical slips.  Nobody worries about it.  You needn&#8217;t either.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94286</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: "going to voting for Democrats" should have been "going to be voting for Democrats" (note to self: proofread your posts before you hit the "submit" button).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: &#8220;going to voting for Democrats&#8221; should have been &#8220;going to be voting for Democrats&#8221; (note to self: proofread your posts before you hit the &#8220;submit&#8221; button).</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94277</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 23:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Daniel, Savage is a 'period.' A nasty, smelly, bloody mess that shouldn't be discussed in polite society".

Comedic answer: But how do you really feel, sir?  Non-comedic answer: Amen, brother. Amen.

"So are Democrats the only acceptable party for a Fox News PA to admit they voted for?"

Are you implying that Fox would not have fired this lady if she publicly said that she voted for Obama or Clinton? You've got to be kidding me.  You're question is basically moot, anyway, since most people associated with Fox News aren't going to voting for Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Daniel, Savage is a &#8216;period.&#8217; A nasty, smelly, bloody mess that shouldn&#8217;t be discussed in polite society&#8221;.</p>
<p>Comedic answer: But how do you really feel, sir?  Non-comedic answer: Amen, brother. Amen.</p>
<p>&#8220;So are Democrats the only acceptable party for a Fox News PA to admit they voted for?&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you implying that Fox would not have fired this lady if she publicly said that she voted for Obama or Clinton? You&#8217;ve got to be kidding me.  You&#8217;re question is basically moot, anyway, since most people associated with Fox News aren&#8217;t going to voting for Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94244</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94244</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;So are Democrats the only acceptable party for a Fox News PA to admit they voted for?&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly.  The story (if there is one here, which I don't think there should be) isn't that some extremely minor minor peon expressed an opinion.

The story (if there is one, and there really isn't but don't let that stop folks on both sides of from trumpeting their hypocrisy and making a big deal out of every trivial word spoken even thought that is drastically unfair when coming from the other side) is that Fox, defender of freedom and what America stands for, fired someone for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So are Democrats the only acceptable party for a Fox News PA to admit they voted for?</i></p>
<p>Exactly.  The story (if there is one here, which I don&#8217;t think there should be) isn&#8217;t that some extremely minor minor peon expressed an opinion.</p>
<p>The story (if there is one, and there really isn&#8217;t but don&#8217;t let that stop folks on both sides of from trumpeting their hypocrisy and making a big deal out of every trivial word spoken even thought that is drastically unfair when coming from the other side) is that Fox, defender of freedom and what America stands for, fired someone for doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: jojo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94218</link>
		<dc:creator>jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are Democrats the only acceptable party for a Fox News PA to admit they voted for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are Democrats the only acceptable party for a Fox News PA to admit they voted for?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94217</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, Savage IS a "period".  A nasty, smelly, bloody mess that shouldn't be discussed in polite society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, Savage IS a &#8220;period&#8221;.  A nasty, smelly, bloody mess that shouldn&#8217;t be discussed in polite society.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94206</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 09:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should have been a period after "Savage".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should have been a period after &#8220;Savage&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94205</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 09:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94205</guid>
		<description>"giving a conservative wackjob a show..."

Rheinhard, MSNBC already did that with Michael Savage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;giving a conservative wackjob a show&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Rheinhard, MSNBC already did that with Michael Savage</p>
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		<title>By: Micheline</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94194</link>
		<dc:creator>Micheline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 04:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also love John McCain's answer which indicates that he is  well aware of Fox and the rest of the media is going to be the propaganda arm of his campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also love John McCain&#8217;s answer which indicates that he is  well aware of Fox and the rest of the media is going to be the propaganda arm of his campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: TX Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94189</link>
		<dc:creator>TX Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wonder if Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Brent Hume, or even Geraldo Rivera had said the same thing they would be fired.  Somehow I think not.  Talk about knee jerk reactions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wonder if Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Sean Hannity, Brent Hume, or even Geraldo Rivera had said the same thing they would be fired.  Somehow I think not.  Talk about knee jerk reactions!</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94179</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 23:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94179</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;On the one hand, we’re talking a 24 year old assistant, not Roger Ailes (the bad), or Bill O’Reilly (the worse). So I don’t know how far this can realistically be flogged as an indicator of a systemic bias at the network.&lt;/em&gt;

I think the young assistant made the critical mistake of openly reflecting the corporate culture of the newsroom where she works. Fox likes to pretend to have journalistic ethics. I think the talk on the inside is too similar to what the assistant said in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>On the one hand, we’re talking a 24 year old assistant, not Roger Ailes (the bad), or Bill O’Reilly (the worse). So I don’t know how far this can realistically be flogged as an indicator of a systemic bias at the network.</em></p>
<p>I think the young assistant made the critical mistake of openly reflecting the corporate culture of the newsroom where she works. Fox likes to pretend to have journalistic ethics. I think the talk on the inside is too similar to what the assistant said in public.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94164</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking about this a bit more, I don't really see how this young woman's comments does anything to reveal Fox's bias.  A very minor cog in a large company expresses a personal opinion.  If some secretary at Exxon said gas prices were too high should that be taken as being some great reveal about official company policy?

Far more revealing is the fact the Fox then fired her, after several years of service.  The proper response from Fox should have been "We're a large company and our employees hold a large variety of opinions.  Nothing further to say."  Better still, just make no comment at all.

This is another non-issue being writ large because people want to jump an every little word uttered rather than discuss anything actually, y'know, relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about this a bit more, I don&#8217;t really see how this young woman&#8217;s comments does anything to reveal Fox&#8217;s bias.  A very minor cog in a large company expresses a personal opinion.  If some secretary at Exxon said gas prices were too high should that be taken as being some great reveal about official company policy?</p>
<p>Far more revealing is the fact the Fox then fired her, after several years of service.  The proper response from Fox should have been &#8220;We&#8217;re a large company and our employees hold a large variety of opinions.  Nothing further to say.&#8221;  Better still, just make no comment at all.</p>
<p>This is another non-issue being writ large because people want to jump an every little word uttered rather than discuss anything actually, y&#8217;know, relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94162</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SpiderJ:
You realize what they were doing, right?  Obviously mostly brain dead people work at Faux Noise(which includes Olvier's girl Kirsten Powers).  The problem is sorting out the brain dead people who open their mouth too much from the ones that knew when to keep their trap shut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SpiderJ:<br />
You realize what they were doing, right?  Obviously mostly brain dead people work at Faux Noise(which includes Olvier&#8217;s girl Kirsten Powers).  The problem is sorting out the brain dead people who open their mouth too much from the ones that knew when to keep their trap shut.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94157</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Fox et all just seem truly deluded. They actually believe they are fair and balanced.&lt;/i&gt;

Moreso, they believe that enough people still buy into the idea that they &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; fair and balanced, to the point that they'll fire this girl to protect their tarnished brand image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fox et all just seem truly deluded. They actually believe they are fair and balanced.</i></p>
<p>Moreso, they believe that enough people still buy into the idea that they <i>are</i> fair and balanced, to the point that they&#8217;ll fire this girl to protect their tarnished brand image.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94152</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the really, well, I can't decide if the right word is "sad" or "scary", but the really something part of that, Rheinhard, is that Ailes, O'Reilly or any of the senior folks at Fox have no concept at all of their hypocrisy.

At least Limbaugh has referred to himself as an entertainer and publicly acknowledge that his job is to "grab as many listeners as I can hand hold them for as long as possible".  He's a liar and destructive of the common good, but he knows it.

Fox et all just seem truly deluded.  They actually believe they are fair and balanced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the really, well, I can&#8217;t decide if the right word is &#8220;sad&#8221; or &#8220;scary&#8221;, but the really something part of that, Rheinhard, is that Ailes, O&#8217;Reilly or any of the senior folks at Fox have no concept at all of their hypocrisy.</p>
<p>At least Limbaugh has referred to himself as an entertainer and publicly acknowledge that his job is to &#8220;grab as many listeners as I can hand hold them for as long as possible&#8221;.  He&#8217;s a liar and destructive of the common good, but he knows it.</p>
<p>Fox et all just seem truly deluded.  They actually believe they are fair and balanced.</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/09/fox-news-employee-in-trouble-for-publicly-expressing-networks-pro-mccain-stance/#comment-94146</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the one hand, we're talking a 24 year old assistant, not Roger Ailes (the bad), or Bill O'Reilly (the worse).  So I don't know how far this can realistically be flogged as an indicator of a systemic bias at the network.

On the other hand, I have no doubt at all that if the same thing happened with an MSNBC staffer praising Obama, the wingnut blogs would be outraged and O'Reilly would dedicate a week of solid coverage including sending his homunculus Jesse Waters to harass any MSNBC executives to demand they repudiate their network bias and commit to giving a conservative wackjob a show instead of Keith Olbermann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand, we&#8217;re talking a 24 year old assistant, not Roger Ailes (the bad), or Bill O&#8217;Reilly (the worse).  So I don&#8217;t know how far this can realistically be flogged as an indicator of a systemic bias at the network.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I have no doubt at all that if the same thing happened with an MSNBC staffer praising Obama, the wingnut blogs would be outraged and O&#8217;Reilly would dedicate a week of solid coverage including sending his homunculus Jesse Waters to harass any MSNBC executives to demand they repudiate their network bias and commit to giving a conservative wackjob a show instead of Keith Olbermann.</p>
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