Superdelegates with no need to interact with us unwashed masses support Clinton, while those who have to actually answer to voters have gone more for Obama. And more will likely come.
Among elected officials, Sen. Obama leads in endorsements from governors and senators. He is behind among House members by one, but both camps expect him to pull ahead unless he does badly in next Tuesday’s Indiana and North Carolina primaries. If he doesn’t stumble, enough elected Democrats are expected to back Sen. Obama after the last primaries June 3 to give him the delegate majority needed for nomination.
Many of them see Sen. Obama as more electable than Sen. Clinton. But even those who don’t have been impressed by his grass-roots organizing and fund raising and the legions of new voters he has attracted, particularly younger and African-American voters.
Clearly the preference is for them to just do it, but it will come in due time.
Governor Easley from North Carolina sure does.
To Hillary, winner of the last 3 primaries, leader in Superdelegates, leader in primaries that were actually primaries and not caucuses, leader in the popular vote when you count all the places where Democrats went out and voted, like Florida.
Her momentum will carry her to a strong, 8-10 point victory in Indiana, a virtual tie in NC, and you will feel the tension rising among the ‘Bamabots as they start to scream with frustration.
They know Barack cannot get to the magic 2025 just with the motley crew of pledged delegates from wacky, Wild-West caucuses in places like Idaho and Nebraska, they can tell he’ll be damged more and more by the Wright racial divide, and the Supers, who are charged with selecting the candidate best suited to win against John McCain and the one with the biggest coat-tails in swing and at-risk States where Dems MUST win, will opt, like most late deciders to vote Hillary. .
Go, Hillary, Go! On to Puerto Rico and June 3!
Can you spell M-A-D-A-M-E P-R-E-S-I-D-E-N-T?? There’s not a single “B” or “O” in that phrase.
Wellstone: To Hillary, winner of the last 3 primaries, leader in Superdelegates, leader in primaries that were actually primaries and not caucuses, leader in the popular vote when you count all the places where Democrats went out and voted, like Florida.
So clearly:
- only the last 3 contests count. Anything before that, including Obama’s run of (was it 11 or 12? whatever, it was) over 3 times Hillary’s run? Not at all relevant.
- any contest where there is a level playing field but Hillary doesn’t win (i.e., caucuses) don’t count at all.
- any contest where there is not a level playing field but Hillary does win (i.e., Michigan, Florida) should definitely be counted.
Y’know, Wellstone, I really have no problem at all with irrational supporters of Obama being tagged as such. But you’re demonstrating exactly the irrational arguments that are turning people off to joining Hillary’s side. Do you want to be called the pot, or the kettle?
To Hillary, winner of the last 3 primaries, leader in Superdelegates, leader in primaries that were actually primaries and not caucuses, leader in the popular vote when you count all the places where Democrats went out and voted, like Florida.
Hillary’s winning streak now stands at one. Before Pennsylvania she was blown out in Mississippi and Wyoming. But don’t let the facts get in your way.
I would say something here but you’ve done a good enough job of looking stupid on your own.
Wellstone: To Hillary, winner of the last 3 primaries, leader in Superdelegates, leader in primaries that were actually primaries and not caucuses, leader in the popular vote when you count all the places where Democrats went out and voted, like Florida.
Also:
- who’s leading in pledged delegates doesn’t count, nor who’s leading in total delegates (pledged plus super). Only the subset in which Hillary is leading (count only the superdelegates) is significant.
I am truly literally stunned, Wellstone, at how much idiocy you were able to pack into a single sentence. (Irony, too, since you followed it up with a dig at “‘Bamabots” (not that I expect you to recognize it)).
In a different thread, I was engaged with Jay in a discussion of the intelligence of the average voter in this country. He maintained that the average voter was smart, and voted on the issues that matter to them. I stated that the average voter was an idiot, and voted on tons of things besides the issues (e.g., race, gender, flag pins, guilt-by-association bullshit, etc.). Jay’s subsequent charge to me was to admit that the stupidity of the average person was not confined to the Republican side.
I readily admit that no party has a monopoly on stupid. And thankfully, I now have a case subject from the Democratic side. Hey Jay, if you’re reading this… check out Wellstone’s inane, nonsensical blather!
Seriously Wellstone… Get real. For every argument you can piece together for why Clinton should get the nomination, there are two better reasons for Obama to get it. Stop being a moron.
I’m frequently reminded of a line from Men in Black:
Edwards: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
It’s just like my coworkers, Sean. Collectively, great peeps. Individually? All tools.
Pug: Ya, well, Wyoming was a caucus, I said “primary”.
And Mississippi? You think MS has a chance in Hell of going Dem in November? Add it to the other list of meaningless GOP states in Obama’s bag.
Thanks you for the compliments, everyone.
How’s your Obama lookin today?
Meaningless states… Yeah, fuck a 50-state strategy… fuck trying to make the Dems more than just a regional party… fuck trying to win anywhere aside from Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania, all the other states are accounted for anyway, right?
Why do we even bother voting in those states? Good idea to save money and manpower… let’s just deny the vote to everyone outside of the three big swing states! Yeah, that’s the ticket. Divvy up those electoral votes according to how they ALWAYS go, and then have Ohio, Penn, and Florida decide the election.
Wellstone, your comments are getting worse and worse. I thought you were a reasonable individual at one point, but no longer. Stop being such a dick.
How’s your Obama lookin today?
Not too bad, actually.
Thanks for asking.
“And Mississippi? You think MS has a chance in Hell of going Dem in November? ”
MS-01 does. And every congresscritter you can get helps in the long run.