The North Carolina Republican party is up on the air with an ad trying to paint Sen. Obama as a radical black nationalist and McCain writes a letter to try and get them to pull it back.
Maybe I’m too cynical, but I think the McCain camp’s real beef is that its too soon to go to the black nationalist well. They’d prefer to see these things in October and then “condemn” them in barely heard whispers.
O, you’re not cynical enough. JCole: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=10200
radical black nationalist? I’m confused. I thought he was a latte-sipping elitist. Wish they’d make up their minds.
What’s the matter with you? It’s really simple. He’s a latte-drinking Marxist black nationalist privileged yuppie Muslim with a nutty Christian pastor. Seems like a perfectly consistent story to me.
Dont ou all worry, hillary will be the nominee, naturally the GOP will jump on her becayse the ohioans and the Penns will have played into their hands so McCain will be yje next POTUS then 2012 we shall meet again
by the time the financial woes , the iraq/iran israel global warfare will ve hell, and some one else will have to fight chelsea clinton who will have a ton of experience playing barbie doll in the WH
…the only good thing is that the US will have received such a whipping that those media bozos nd all those smartypants pundits will be hiding ib a hole deeper than saddam because my frieds we shall all be in helll
I can see it now:
Chelsea vs. Prescott Bush in 2016.
How old will Jena be? Actually, she and Chelsea both seem fairly well adjusted now.
The ironic thing is that a large part of this “radical” Black message is an emphasis on hard work,self-reliance, the family, and avoiding drugs and alcohol.
Hey, Oliver, don’t forget this Republican asshole:
http://thenewsdispatch.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=12532
Short version: GOP Congressional candidate gives speech at Neo-Nazi event.
Funny how the Right is so quick to speak out and denounce and distance themselves from their assholes, while the Left pooh-poohs concerns about former Weather Underground terrorists, Reverend Wright, shakedown artist Jesse Jackson, and so on, and so on…
J.
Funny how the Right is so quick to speak out and denounce and distance themselves from their assholes…
You mean, like Foley, just to name one?
I’m sorry, Sean, I missed which Foley you mean, and what he did that’s comparable to being a Neo-Nazi or Weather Underground member. Or, for that matter, former Ku Klux Klan official — Kleagle Byrd, please pick up the white courtesy phone…
J.
No, if they’re Ronald Reagan they just go and dance on the graves of civil rights workers.
This was a huge leap across the chasm of reality to cast Obama as a radical. This is the pastor at his church, who is undoubtedly a fool, but we don’t have Obama on tape spewing the same tired rhetoric. Unfortunately Obama called him, (I think), a spiritual advisor, but he is not a part of his campaign. The Republicans always go back to the past and talk about Bill Clinton even though it has been many years since he was in office. Why don’t we go out and talk about another spiritual advisor from the past named Ted Haggard who was on the line with the White House many times?
I am not sure about your supposition about McCain though, Oliver. I don’t think he thought it was too soon, he recognized that this ad was idiocy and wanted to distance himself from it. I respect McCain for many reasons.
DKelsmith, Wright was NOT just Obama’s “spiritual advisor,” but a mentor and campaign advisor. He sought out Wright, gave heftily to the church, quoted him extensively in his books (even took a quote from him for one title), and said he could never renounce him a week or so before he renounced him.
Bill Clinton keeps putting himself in the public eye, front and center of things — where he compulsively needs to be. He’s often more prominent than his wife on the campaign trail; OF COURSE we’re going to talk about his returning to the White House, even as First Husband.
J.
shut the fuck up, jay tea you tiresome troll.
JT: I’m sorry, Sean, I missed which Foley you mean, and what he did that’s comparable to being a Neo-Nazi or Weather Underground member.
You missed Foley? As my grandpa would say, “Well, THERE’s yer problem. You got them thar selective eyes, boy!” You seem to just not notice any major news story that doesn’t match the facts you want.
Anyway, I missed where you drew some line and started qualifying your assholes. “Those guilty of this, we denounce, those guilty of that, we don’t.”
JT: quoted him extensively in his books (even took a quote from him for one title)
And yet. And yet. We never see a clip of Wright where he’s talking about the audacity of hope. 3000 hours of sermons by some estimates, and all we ever see is the same 30 seconds.
And what’s so wrong with the quote Obama used for a title? Is everything Wright ever said to be viewed thru that one 30 second clip? Why not exactly the other way around? Why not view everything thru the lens of his Audacity of Hope sermon? I mean, if “god damn America” can dirty everything he says, the exact same logic, but in the other direction, means “Audacity of Hope” gets to clean everything he has ever said.
Unless, of course, one small quote can’t be used to represent everything a person has ever said….
I guess I must have missed the “offensive” stuff even in those endlessly recycled snippets of Wright’s. Hell, I complain worse about this f’d-up country- and with a great deal less less personal cause- than Wright ever did, and that’s on my GOOD days. The single most intolerable thing about this country is the unwillingness of most of its citizens even to harbor the thought that it might have some less-than-perfect features that are in dire need of improvement. This fatuous self-satisfaction is a huge barrier to progress.
Oh, and of course we all need to denounce and reject Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever…”
This is the pastor at his church, who is undoubtedly a fool, but we don’t have Obama on tape spewing the same tired rhetoric. Unfortunately Obama called him, (I think), a spiritual advisor, but he is not a part of his campaign.
Dkelsmith, the same can be said about John Hagee. Once again we have a big time double standard especially on the part of our host. Oliver has posted no less than FIVE entries about John Hagee and John McCain. Yet he resorts to the typical cop-out and cries “RACISM!!” when an ad that links Obama and Wright is aired.
Like I said before, you lie down with dogs, you’re going to get fleas.
And McCain is a fool for saying he doesn’t want to run that kind of campaign. Why? The Democrats are going to do the same thing. All anybody has to do is read the Democrats.org website to gain insight as to how they are going to go after McCain. It won’t be pretty and whoever the Democratic nominee is, won’t condemn such ads.
All I’ve heard for definite of Rev Wright is “God Damn America” which is nothing. You can’t cope with that, you’re too damn sensitive by half. OH NOES SOMEONE HAS INSINUATED THAT OUR NATION IS NOT PERFECT!!!!11ELEVEN!
He also said the United States invited the HIV virus as a means of genocide against black people. His church gave an award to a man who “epitomized greatness.” That man was Louis Farrakhan.
Now, what does any of that say about Barack Obama? Well. NOTHING.
But again, I am amused at the left being so flabbergasted that Obama’s opponents are attempting to link him to Wright. It’s like they’re pretending that something like this has never happened before.
Whoa, nice try to turn the tables by J, but quite lame in the end. Oliver rightly pointed out that the press doesn’t seem to care about Hagee’s interactions with McCain, while Obama’s interactions are front page news for two weeks. This despite the fact that Hagee’s words are much more incendiary.
In a related note, I was watching WGN Chicago news and I realized that Rev. Wright is a mainstream person in Chicago life. There was an obituary of a beloved Chicago judge and as an aside of no particular gravity, they mentioned that Rev. Wright was officiating,without linking him to Obama. Rev. Wright has been a part of the Chicago Christian community for years and is by no means a fringe character (unlike Hagee). If speeches like the one excerted on Hannity were in character, he certainly wouldn’t be so mainstream.
So basically, Oliver is supporting a tactic he professes to oppose.
Oliver rightly pointed out that the press doesn’t seem to care about Hagee’s interactions with McCain, while Obama’s interactions are front page news for two weeks. This despite the fact that Hagee’s words are much more incendiary.
And I am telling you that will change. Obama’s interactions were front page news because up until that time, Obama enjoyed a relationship with the national press that bordered on romantic. In addition, Obama has known Wright for nearly 30 years whereas Hagee and McCain don’t go back in time. As for what’s more incendiary, that’s a subjective viewpoint.
Hagee about catholics:
‘A Godless theology of hate that no one dared try to stop for a thousand years produced a harvest of hate.’
All Muslims are programmed to kill and we can thus never negotiate with any of them. From an NPR interview Hagee gave to Terry Gross in 2006:
JH: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/28/hagee/
Hardly seems subjective to me. I left out the part about starting a war with Iran to hasten the End Times.
Don’t know if they were local or syndicated, or how serious they were, but they weren’t totally kidding-the hosts of the drive time show I was listening to on the way to work this morning said they would have more respect for Obama if “he would just admit he doesn’t like white people.”
But I honestly don’t think that’s true. Does that mean he doesn’t like his mom? His grandparents? Come on.
I’d have more respect for Hillarybots if they would just admit they don’t want to vote for the nigra.
Well, maybe respect is not the right word.
“Funny how the Right is so quick to speak out and denounce and distance themselves from their assholes”
You’re right. That is funny. Remind me: who is the Vice President?
“And I am telling you that will change.”
What evidence do you have to back up that conclusion?
“Obama’s interactions were front page news because up until that time, Obama enjoyed a relationship with the national press that bordered on romantic.”
And you think McCain hasn’t? Have you been paying attention to reality?
“As for what’s more incendiary, that’s a subjective viewpoint.”
Hagee blamed Katrina on the gays. Wright quote an expert who said 911 was blowback. No rational person can think the latter is as incendiary as the former.