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But They Will Claim That They’re “Democrats”

Published April 16, 2008 in Useful "Liberals".

Taylor Marsh’s anti-Obama blog is running an ad comparing Sen. Obama to Mussolini.

22 Responses to “But They Will Claim That They’re “Democrats””

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1 Duros62
Apr 16th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

WTF is wrong with that woman? She wants to be on Air America? Naw, try the EIB.
2 Phoenix Woman
Apr 16th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

Scary, that is.
3 Quaker in a Basement
Apr 16th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

What did you expect from a former pornographer?
4 matt621
Apr 16th, 2008 at 6:46 pm

Is an Anti-Everything-But-Obama blog the same as a pro-Obama blog?
5 christy kennedy
Apr 16th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

I don’t get it. At all. I’ve been giving the folks at No Quarter some crap the last couple of days. I used to read NQ daily for the insider poop from Larry Johnson, but now it’s all anti-Obama all the time. Nasty and trivial stuff, most of it. They’re not focused on McCain or the war criminals still in power and they don’t realize how damaging all this ugliness is to our chances in November. I mean, for God’s sake, there have been Clinton haters for a long time now. They’re a narrow-minded, vindictive and stubborn lot, and the Obama haters are starting to sound just like them. I’m not too happy with Clinton, but what are the Clinton- and Obama-haters haters going to do when the general election rolls around. Stay home? Vote for McCain? God help us. The Republicans, with their weak candidate, can just sit back and watch Democrats attack each other. How can people be so stupid?
6 z_adura
Apr 16th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

christy, these little blogger wars are irrelevant to the GE. Each site gets about half the hits of teletubbies.com. Nobody outside of bloggerville gives a crap.
7 Jersey Guy
Apr 17th, 2008 at 6:21 am

Taylor Marsh, Kristin Breitweiser on HuffPo, Larry Johnson and, sadly, Shakes. What do they all have in common except being anti-Obama (apparently not pro-anything)? I definitely see a veiled racism there.

JG.
8 Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle
Apr 17th, 2008 at 7:58 am

What did you expect from a former pornographer?

Are you talking about Taylor Marsh?
9 jr
Apr 17th, 2008 at 8:46 am

They’re Clintonocrats not Democrats. They would rather McCain privatize Social Security and invade Iran than Barack get elected
10 Matthew G. Saroff
Apr 17th, 2008 at 9:14 am

I have a tiny blog, I think I now average 150 readers a day, but at one point I had a McCain ad on the site.

Google serves what Google serves, and some time in 2011, I’ll get my first check.

When I notice such an ad, I make fun of it, but I generally think that ads do not constitute an endorsement by the blogger.

As to the one-sided pissing contest between you and Marsh, I’d rather read about you re-grouting your bathtub than the blogwar crap.

(BTW, I favor Hillary, but No Quarter has not only jumped the shark, but it has done so in a double decker bus, and the shark in question is actually a whole school of Carcharodon megalodon))
11 Quaker in a Basement
Apr 17th, 2008 at 11:51 am

Are you talking about Taylor Marsh?

Google is your friend.
12 Kevin K.
Apr 17th, 2008 at 11:59 am

Matthew, as I thought I made clear in my post, blog owners have full control over what BlogAds are displayed on their blogs. Taylor could have (and should have) rejected that ad.
13 Quaker in a Basement
Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

Also, in her own words:

Several years ago I was editor in chief to the most successful adult site on the web (at the time). It was one of the most fertile research arenas I’ve ever experienced. The reason I resigned was that one of our celebrity stripper columnists submitted a piece to me that showed her exposing herself on an elementary school playground in broad daylight, with accompanying copy that indulged a “forbidden fantasy.” I refused to publish the column, but my boss, Danni Ashe, disagreed with me. So, I resigned, because I knew what a taboo rush we were implicitly promoting.
14 Duros62
Apr 17th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

It was one of the most fertile research arenas I’ve ever experienced.

Heh heh. Indeed.
15 Matthew G. Saroff
Apr 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

Kevin, I disagree.

Again, I look at my ads, and frequently when I am talking about the latest acronym that Wall Street is using to cheat people, I get ads telling how people can invest in it (again, this is “the Google” not blogads, but I imagine that it is the same).

I do editorial, and if it catches my fancy I parody those ads, but it is unreasonable to expect a blogger to vet ads to ensure that they match their political views exactly.

Heck, I’ve seen Ann Coulter ads on Talking Points Memo, and Josh, who is more of a journalist than any of the rest of us will ever be, makes exactly the same point.

Editorial and advertising should be kept separate.

As to whether Marsh is “shrill”, the answer is yes, though she is not bat shit insane like the folks at No Quarter, but I don’t see her as being any more shrill” than Oliver Willis.

In fact, I see her as being bit less so, as she does not have what seem to be 3-5 posts a week about Oliver, and he does about her.
16 Duros62
Apr 17th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

That’s cuz she’s in denial, Matt. About a lot of things.
17 Sean D. Martin
Apr 17th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

Matthew G. Saroff: “(again, this is “the Google” not blogads, but I imagine that it is the same).

I think it’s been made clear that they aren’t. “blog owners have full control over what BlogAds are displayed on their blogs” [emphasis added]

Matthew G. Saroff: “it is unreasonable to expect a blogger to vet ads to ensure that they match their political views exactly.

I call straw man. No, they don’t have to match exactly. But some effort should be made to see the ads aren’t so way off from the views the blogger supposedly supports. Especially when (as with BlogAds) the ad has to be specifically approved before it appears.
18 Sean D. Martin
Apr 17th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Matthew G. Saroff: “In fact, I see [Taylor Marsh] as being bit less so, as she does not have what seem to be 3-5 posts a week about Oliver, and he does about her.”

Quick check of the Taylor Marsh category here shows only one posting.

Quick search for the phrase “Taylor Marsh” finds the following postings:
- But They Will Claim That They’re “Democrats” Published April 16, 2008
- Blissfully Unaware Published March 17, 2008
- That Says It All, Doesn’t It? Published March 5, 2008
- Dance! Dance! Published February 29, 2008
- Obama, Canada, NAFTA And Egg On The Face Published February 28, 2008
- Taylor Marsh, The Right’s New Pet Published February 28
- Taylor Marsh Running With The In Crowd Published February 26
- ODS Watch: Taylor Marsh Simply Lies About Barack Obama Published February 11
- One Of The Most Idiotic Things I’ve Ever Seen Published January 31
- The Green Eyed Monster Published January 27
- Taylor Marsh & The Politics Of Paranoia Published January 18

So 10 since the beginning of the year. 3-5 per week would make 45-75 postings. You’re overstating your case about 500%.
19 Sean D. Martin
Apr 17th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

Whoops, miscount. 11, not 10.
20 dwightkschrute
Apr 18th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

Come on Oliver, that’s impossible. According to the enlightened one, your pal Mr. BTD, it’s the “Obama blogs” that are the root of all that’s wrong in the Democratic party. I mean seriously, do you not understand the need to demonize Josh Marshall on a daily basis for “Hillary hating” and “journalistic incompetence”, while staying silent on Taylor Marsh and Larry Johnson’s laundry list of destructive remarks?
21 tas
Apr 18th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

Matthew, I used to run a blog that had Blogads. Kevin used to run a blog with Blogads. Oliver Willis does run a blog with Blogads. We can all tell you that bloggers with Blogads can reject the ads that somebody tries to purchase on their site — every BLOGAD ad that runs is there because the blogger personally approved it.

Google ads are different, the blogger doesn’t have a choice. But Google ads aren’t the issue here.
22 Sean D. Martin
Apr 18th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

Oh, come on, tas. You’re fighting dirty. Resorting to facts. Shameful!