Obama said McCain and Bush — a pairing the Dem candidate is likely to utter repeatedly over the next eight months, should he win the nom — took the United States into a war “that should have never been authorized and never been waged.”
“So John McCain may like to say he wants to follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, but so far all he’s done is follow George Bush into a misguided war in Iraq that’s cost of thousands of lives and billions of dollars,” he said.
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John McCain may like to say he wants to follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell…
I’m confused. Isn’t that what you say when you admire someone? As in; “I would follow Tony Soprano to the gates of hell”?
Did he mean to say he would pursue bin Laden to the gates of hell or was that a flash of honesty on McCain’s part?
Actually it was facetiousness…what McCain meant was that he (and Bush) would BURN in hell
So Obama admits … now … that alQaida is currently in Iraq. And in response to that bit of news, his first act as President would be to … withdraw from the very place alQaida is currently residing.
That sounds EXACTLY like what Obama claims Bush’s stance was in 2003: “We’ll withdraw from where they are to fight ‘em where they ain’t!”
Al Qaeda wont have a foothold in Iraq if we’re not there. They’re there to kill Americans, while the rest of them like Bin Laden hide out in Pakistan.
Patently ridiculous. Were we to withdraw, we’d leave a serious power vacuum that AQI would be only too happy to fill. It’s exactly how they got their foothold into Afghanistan: by filling the void left by Russia’s retreat.
“Patently ridiculous. Were we to withdraw, we’d leave a serious power vacuum that AQI would be only too happy to fill. It’s exactly how they got their foothold into Afghanistan: by filling the void left by Russia’s retreat.”
I have a question. Why the fuck should we believe your prediction? Why the fuck should we believe the predictions of anyone who fuck the dog on Iraq in the first place? “I so fucking wrong before, but believe me now when I say this is a bad idea.”
Anyone who said, ‘We will be greeted as liberators!’ should kindly shut the fuck up and let the adults discuss things.
Now he worries about the power vacuum? Nice Farris.
Obama should have said: “Bush and McCain led us away from bin Laden into a misguided war in Iraq that has cost us the lives of thousands of our soldiers, trillions of dollars and that has strengthened Al Qaeda providing them recruits, money, resources, training, targets, and helped create for them havens in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and abroad.”
Sorry, Farris. The correct answer is: the power vacuum has already been and will continue to be filled by Iran.
Better luck next time.
Patently ridiculous. Were we to withdraw, we’d leave a serious power vacuum that AQI would be only too happy to fill. It’s exactly how they got their foothold into Afghanistan: by filling the void left by Russia’s retreat.
If there were ever an admission of the collosal failure of Bush’s war, it’s this. After six years, half-a-trillion dollars, and four thousand dead, there is still no functioning government or security in that country. And what was it the surge was for again? I thought that was supposed to be a success? I though we were winning?
It’s remarkable to me that idiots like Ferris who supported and still defend this boondoggle think they have ANY shred of credibility left, let alone enough to criticize someone else’s comments as “ridiculous.”
Now he worries about the power vacuum? Nice Farris.
No of course not. Like most Republicans, Ferris doesn’t give two shits about Iraq, its people, or our soldiers. This has always been about defending the “team,” even when they are 0-11 on the road.
I much prefer Clinton because I think most Obama supporters will vote Repub or stay home on election day, but damn, I like Obama’s style.
I have a question, why do Pubs put their Party first and America second? And the bastards say that we’re the traitors.
And I will vote for Obama if he is the candidate, he’s pissing off the right people.
The ones I hate.
Patently ridiculous. Were we to withdraw, we’d leave a serious power vacuum that AQI would be only too happy to fill. It’s exactly how they got their foothold into Afghanistan: by filling the void left by Russia’s retreat.
You mistake al-Qaida for warlords and Taliban–AQ has no interest in filling a power vacuum because they have no infrastructure set up to govern. They are a paramilitary unit, not a power magnate.
I cannot understand this continuing contention that withdrawal from Iraq immediately flows into a discussion of terms for surrender. Forgive the football metaphor, but it’s like Farris and others want to concede the game just because they’re not leading at halftime.
Withdrawal is a move, not a concession. It allows one to reconsider the approach and then try something new.
Were we to withdraw, we’d leave a serious power vacuum that AQI would be only too happy to fill.
Quite the contrary. Most Iraqis don’t like Al Quaeda in Iraq any more than they like American troops kicking down doors in the middle of the night. Right now, the Sunnis and Shi’ites have a common foe: the US.Once we withdraw, they will still have a common foe: Al Quaeda in Iraq.