Oliver Willis

12 Responses to “Brian Williams & Your Typical Fox News Viewer”

1. 1 pawtrax
   Nov 4th, 2007 at 7:57 pm

   it’s insane that this kind of thing even has to be addressed and i don’t know whether it’s a good or bad thing that nbc chose to even dignify it with a response. It is not like there has been some kind of on-going, long time confusion about how to address former presidents, or senators or congress people for that matter. No. This is only a question now because somewhere deep in the right wing fever swamp someone thought it would be a great way to discredit the media to suggest that they were showing undue deference to clinton by using the correct address. That’s all this is about: Tricking people into thinking that what is totally neutral is indeed the height of ideological corruption and bias. I really hope I never hear a fucking right winger bitch about political correctness or the “language police” again when their side has done far more to pervert and corrupt the meaning of discourse in this country on a daily basis.

2. 2 C.S.Strowbridge
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 5:59 am

   I wonder, is there’s a way to use Fox News to irradiate and sterilize people? We can’t let these morons breed. Then again, the average age of an O’Reilly viewer is over 70, so they probably are not breeding.

3. 3 Doggedly
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 10:38 am

   C.S.

   The average over 70 Orally viewer is not only not breeding but not breathing.

   They are truly the undead.

4. 4 Jay
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 11:53 am

   Yes and the people who sport t-shirts and bumper stickers saying, “He’s not MY President” in reference to President Bush or refer to him as a “squatter” or “President-In-Thief” (some of whom routinely show up around here) are all the second coming of Einstein.

5. 5 pawtrax
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 12:09 pm

   jay,

   please tell me that you recognize the difference between stating a political opinion on a t-shirt and being simply, plainly wrong.

6. 6 Oliver Willis
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

   I really think he doesn’t understand the difference.

7. 7 C.S.Strowbridge
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 1:35 pm

   “I really think he doesn’t understand…”

   You don’t need the rest. Jay just doesn’t understand.

8. 8 Houston Bridges
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 2:01 pm

   I have suggested on several occasions in several forums that instead of impeaching Bush and Cheney, the new Congress as first act of business in January 2009, passes a law denying Bush or Cheney the right to even use the word president or vice president, as well as stripping them of their post administration riches.

   Unfortunately, the national Democratic Party is a status quo party and they’re not likely to do anything radical.

9. 9 durablend
   Nov 5th, 2007 at 2:41 pm

   The (most likely Democrat) president elect is going to have her (or his) hands full fending off impeachment papers from the right, never mind trying to hold Bush/Cheney accountable.

10. 10 Quaker in a Basement
    Nov 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    Well, Jay is, in one sense, correct. Some people on the left engage in dumbassery too.

    But for Pete’s sake, Jay, what really makes this stand out is the “I’m going back to Fox News” remark at the end of the email. If any of the sloganeers you mention were to add, “I get my news from Indymedia,” wouldn’t you find that telling?

11. 11 pawtrax
    Nov 5th, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    There’s a difference between dumassery and just being dumb.

    Wearing a t-shirt that says ‘he’s not my president’ is dumbassery to some because the wearer is trying to be deliberately provocative. Indeed, the whole point of dumbassery is to provoke a response in people you disagree with.

    Writing a letter to MSNBC accusing them of political bias because they use the title that Clinton, and every ex president, is entitled to out of tradition and respect, is just stupid.

12. 12 megamoze
    Nov 6th, 2007 at 2:54 am

    “I really think he doesn’t understand…”

    You don’t need the rest. Jay just doesn’t understand.

    In Wingnut World, disagreeing with them is the same as being wrong, so in that sense, Jay cannot understand the difference. It’s the same sort of mentality that tells the wingnuts that disagreement over evolution vs Creationism is a matter of opinion rather than overwhelming empirical scientific evidence on one side and superstitious fantasy on the other. Ditto global warming.

    So a matter of opinion on a shirt that he finds disagreeable is the equivalent of being factually incorrect about how to address former presidents.

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