The Iron Man teaser trailer looks pretty sweet. Marvel’s already on their second tier of characters and DC can’t get a flick based on Green Lantern, Wonder Woman or Flash into production? Sheesh. I hope Leslie Bibb (last seen as Ricky Bobby’s wife in Talladega Nights) is in it more than just for a fleeting second.
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Here’s the thing. DC’s characters aren’t NEARLY as rich and textured as Marvel characters. DC characters were usually written to be larger-than-life, always the best and can conquer anything type of heroes. That’s why it’s so difficult to craft interesting films out of their characters outside of Batman and Superman (and their Vertigo line which started much more recently).
Marvel characters have always been written to be much more complex and flawed. They aren’t MEANT to be the ‘best’ and larger than life. They’re all meant to superheroes with relatable problems and frailties. That’s why it’s so much easier to craft films around Marvel characters. Tony Stark is a great character to make a movie about and I have faith in Favreau and the cast to pull off a really fun movie.
This just isn’t true and it shows you haven’t read DC comics. I’m not a Marvel guy, but I’m not compelled to put them down the way Marvel fans so often do with DC. There are flaws to the heroes I listed above that would be just as interesting in a movie. DC’s inability to make these movies is probably more corporate inertia than anything else (DC’s film all go through sister company Warner).
Or are you seriously arguing that Blade is more nuanced and superior to Green Lantern?
Starky’s right in the sense that the flaws inherent in Marvel’s characters have, for the most part, always been more richly dramatic than most in DC’s stable.
Green Lantern? Hal Jordan was an all-American test pilot when he started out. Any neuroses or dramatic character flaws were tacked on after the fact. Wonder Woman? Her fatal flaw has often been her overconfidence…but then, she always had the power to back that up, so it rarely came back on her. And the Flash? Again, see Green Lantern.
Marvel’s character origins come with the flaws built in…Spidey’s guilt at his selfishness, Daredevil’s desire to overcome Hell’s Kitchen, Iron Man’s alcoholism and spoiled playboyism…they create something for the heroism to play up against.
The closest Marvel had to a DC superhero was Captain America…and Marvel found ways to heighten the stakes by pointing out that he was a relic of an America gone by.
Dude, I’m disappointed. I came here for the Britney Spears commentary and I can’t find any.
It’s not a teaser, it is a trailer. Teaser’s show you just little glimpses of the footage, or completely unrelated footage. The current ‘teaser’ for “The Dark Knight” is a good example of a teaser - some audio clips and the music played over the Batman logo: http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknight/trailer1/
Or consider this ‘teaser’:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/thesimpsonsmovie/teaser_small.html
Just a taste of the Simpsons, not a full-out-preview.
You are aware that DC’s mainstays were created in the 40s and 50s when pathos wasn’t exactly the norm in comics? You seem to want to ignore any changes made in the characters from then to now. They all have neuroses, foibles, etc. Even Superman - actually probably most of all Superman.
And the most important issue here is: don’t you want to see a giant green lantern fist or a Flash speed trail on the big screen?
I do. (and for the record I’d like to see a Captain America movie and an Avengers film, for starters. I’m not hating even though I’m almost exclusively DC)
With super heroes, it’s their weaknesses that make them interesting, which is why kryptonite was inventing in the first place.
I’ve always found that marvel has more interesting weaknesses.
Batman is one of the few exceptions to that, but I think Oliver is right, DC comics started in an earlier era to Marvel.
Flash may be hampered by the perception that his TV series was a failure (even though it really was pretty well-done, I thought).
Effects technology is at the point where I bet a really cool Green Lantern film could be done. Even just doing Hal Jordan’s origin story could be epic.
Wonder Woman is in the works, though it’s unfortunate that Joss Whedon “has exited the project.”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451279/
And apparently there is a Flash movie getting worked up as well:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439572/
OW, this isn’t some silly fanboy Marvel vs. DC crap. I’ve been reading comics for 30 years now.
Get over your emotional attachment. I read comics from a variety of different companies and don’t favor one over the other. That’s for immature fanboys to have to be loyal to a company. DC characters aren’t nearly as deep as Marvel characters. That’s simply they way they were DESIGNED. Marvel made a conscious decision in the 60’s to make their characters more layered and topical. That’s just simple fact.
If that chaffes your DC loyalties, oh well.
DC characters aren’t nearly as deep as Marvel characters.
This is simply not true. You can make a credible argument for the initial creations, but not for the current modern incarnations. Unless you’re one of the folks still clinging to the uber-Superman who turns back time by flying backwards around the globe, the comparison is no longer valid. The characters in the DCU have layers to them, motivations, fears, etc.
Frankly the reason Marvel didn’t and doesn’t appeal to me is that it’s too dark (that’s also why I don’t like Batman) especially on the X-Men side of the Marvel Universe. The DC characters are more hopeful, but that doesn’t make them any less deep - no more so than the infamous angst of Marvel makes them deeper than DC.
You are confusing how well a character is WRITTEN with how they’re designed.
I never said a particular book is superior to another. A good writer can take any character and make a good story arc.
Your question dealt with why DC second-tier characters aren’t having movies made for them and I answered. Just how would a Blue Beetle movie go? Or a Black Adam.
You won’t admit this juvenile loyalt to DC which is coloring your entire view of this debate. The reason Marvel second-tier characters like Blade, Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider and Iron Man had movies made (not all of them good) is because their BASIC STORY is much better movie material. Period.
But again, you seem stuck in “DEFEND THE DC HIVE!” mode.