The friends you keep…
Advocates for victims of abuse by Catholic clergy on Friday urged presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani to fire a priest who was suspended from the church and then hired by the ex-mayor’s security consulting business.
A spokeswoman for Giuliani said the firm had no plans to fire Monsignor Alan Placa.
Placa, a childhood friend of Giuliani’s, has defended himself for years over allegations in a 2003 Suffolk County grand jury report that detailed decades-old abuses by priests in the Diocese of Rockville Centre, N.Y.
I wonder why that would be?
“Tail Gunner Joe” smiles from Beyond.
I suggest you change “hit on” to “hit for.” “Hit on” has a different connotation.
Frank: Isn’t McCarthy supposed to be one of the big heroes of the right. Isn’t comparing me to him a form of a compliment?
Misplaced: You’re right.
As President, Rudy will nominate his life long friend, Monsignor Alan Placa, to be in charge of pubescent male security, just like he wanted his mobster pal Bernie Kerik to run Homeland Security.
As President, Rudy will nominate his life long friend, Monsignor Alan Placa, to be in charge of pubescent male security, just like he wanted his mobster pal Bernie Kerik to run Homeland Security.
And that was the point I was trying to point out last time this was brought up here, but the cons (well, Frank) said that they didn’t care.
It’s always dangerous to trust a person who keeps deep secrets. Thanks for the post.
“The former mayor believes that Alan Placa has been unjustly accused,”
Accused, he was suspended by his Church. That sounds like more than just accused.
And he’ll appoint the South Carolina coke dealer as drug czar.
No, Oliver, people on both sides of the aisle disapproved of his tactics.
He would be smiling at your use of them.
“No, Oliver, people on both sides of the aisle disapproved of his tactics.”
Tell that to Anne Coulter.
“He would be smiling at your use of them.”
So talking about a guy who has been disciplined in a child sex scandal is the same as a witchhunt over communism.
Do you really want to make that claim?
Clem, let me make this easy for you: The answer is no.
And, Ann Coulter has nothing to do with this.
Ann Coulter is one of the leading voices on the right and she wrote a whole book about how McCarthy was right. You guys believe it, you believe the left was all about a commie infiltration of the government. Why the change of heart all of a sudden? The difference here of course is that Giuliani is really close pals with an alleged pedophile protector.
Rudy Giuliani or Vampire Ghouliani?
“Clem, let me make this easy for you: The answer is no.”
Then why are you?
I don’t recall commenting on Ann Coulter, or her book about McCarthy. So I don’t think you are right to say I agree with her.
Will you now insist, as you usually do, that you are right, and I am wrong?
The similarity between Oliver, Media Matters, and Joe McCarthy is that guilt by association has become their trademark.
You are free to disagree with that also.
Here’s what one conservative institute thought of the book:
http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1200/article_detail.asp
“I don’t recall commenting on Ann Coulter, or her book about McCarthy. So I don’t think you are right to say I agree with her.”
Frank, you are a fucking moron. I never said you agreed with her, but don’t try and say the right hates McCarthy when it is clear they don’t.
“The similarity between Oliver, Media Matters, and Joe McCarthy is that guilt by association has become their trademark.”
Not just association, Frank. Guiliani has a habit of going to bat for people who are scum. This guy has been disciplined in a child sex scandal, Kerik was indicted, another was involved in cocaine trafficking.
It would be different if Guliani came out and attacked what these people did, but he’s never stopped defending them.
Not just association, Frank. Guiliani has a habit of going to bat for people who are scum. This guy has been disciplined in a child sex scandal, Kerik was indicted, another was involved in cocaine trafficking.
It would be different if Guliani came out and attacked what these people did, but he’s never stopped defending them.
Not just that, but like I said the last time this was brought up, there’s a legitimate concern that if Rudy were president, he would appoint people like these into high-ranking government positions. But apparantly, people like Frank don’t care if a mobster is made head of the world bank, or if a cocaine dealer is made Drug Czar, or if Joe Francis is made head of the FCC. But HEAVEN FORBID if a “libural” actually take power!
CSS: How can you call me a fucking moron, and two sentences later try to engage me in a serious conversation?
Here is where you said I agreed with Ann Coulter:
You guys believe it
Now you’re calling me a fucking moron because you did say what I said you said.
Go fuck yourself.
You make me want to puke.
Now that you and Zython are actually trying to have a discussion, I am no longer interested. You were made for each other; enjoy each others’ company.
This is what happens when you treat people like shit. I want nothing to do with either one of you.
Now that you and Zython are actually trying to have a discussion, I am no longer interested. You were made for each other; enjoy each others’ company.
What the hell did I do? You were the one who said that you didn’t care who was in charge of this country.
“How can you call me a fucking moron,”
Cause you said something fucking moronic.
“and two sentences later try to engage me in a serious conversation?”
Really? I’m pretty sure it was the next sentence.
“Now you’re calling me a fucking moron because you did say what I said you said.”
Wow. I guess I have to use shorter sentences due to your obvious developmental difficulties.
1.) You accused OW of acting like McCarthy.
2.) It was pointed out that McCarthy is a hero to the right.
3.) You claimed he’s hated by both sides.
4.) It was pointed out that the right loves McCarthy, using Anne Coulter as an example.
5.) You claimed that cause you don’t like McCarthy, the right doesn’t.
6.) Now I’m pointing out that you are not more representative of the right than Anne Coulter, who is one of the best selling right-wing authors.
Do you get it now?
“Go fuck yourself.
You make me want to puke.”
I hope you don’t think these have any zing to them. Where I used to hang out, “Go fuck yourself.” was considered a rather pleasent greeting.
“Now that you and Zython are actually trying to have a discussion, I am no longer interested.”
I don’t think you are capable of having a discussion. You can only have fights.
“This is what happens when you treat people like shit. I want nothing to do with either one of you.”
Yet you keep responding to us, something you said, in my case anyway, that you would try your hardest not to do.