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	<title>Comments on: Oh No, Teh Hedge Funds!!!</title>
	<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/</link>
	<description>Like Kryptonite To Stupid</description>
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		<title>By: Porlock Junior</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73560</link>
		<dc:creator>Porlock Junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 23:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73560</guid>
		<description>Hedley could learn something about the coffee case if he dared to read the Wall Street Journal's summary of the case. But of course not: that was in the news section where the WSJ gives business people the news thay *need* in order to make money, not the editorial section where it tells them what they *want) to hear.

But it was a good piece of journalism; sort of like their expose of the phony Free Market in Energy, six months before the California debacle.

Not to worry: Rupert Murdoch will take care of all that good financial journalism.

And hey, has ANYBODY over there (I'm in England at the moment) bothered to cover Murdoch's amazing and incredible conversion after talking to Blair and Gore and realizing that global warming is for real? You probably think I'm making this up. The USA needs to get a couple of newspapers that cover some news.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedley could learn something about the coffee case if he dared to read the Wall Street Journal&#8217;s summary of the case. But of course not: that was in the news section where the WSJ gives business people the news thay *need* in order to make money, not the editorial section where it tells them what they *want) to hear.</p>
<p>But it was a good piece of journalism; sort of like their expose of the phony Free Market in Energy, six months before the California debacle.</p>
<p>Not to worry: Rupert Murdoch will take care of all that good financial journalism.</p>
<p>And hey, has ANYBODY over there (I&#8217;m in England at the moment) bothered to cover Murdoch&#8217;s amazing and incredible conversion after talking to Blair and Gore and realizing that global warming is for real? You probably think I&#8217;m making this up. The USA needs to get a couple of newspapers that cover some news.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73559</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 01:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73559</guid>
		<description>Give it up already.  You lost about 15 posts back.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it up already.  You lost about 15 posts back.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73558</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 01:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73558</guid>
		<description>Tyro, try and follow along. Periods generally indicate that one statement has ended and another one begins.  The first sentence of the post you refer to was about the frivolous McDonald's suit brought to you by America's trial lawyers.  The second sentence was about hedge funds.  And you said I never mentioned hedge funds. No Rice-A-Roni or Turtle Wax for you. Thanks for playing.

As for Enlightened Liberal, it would be hypocrisy if he was still deriving money from it and arguing against it at the same time. Like Edwards being Mr. Poverty and Mr. $400 Haircut at the same time. Or all the Hollywood celebs following Gore's "the sky-is-falling" environmental routine while flying around in private planes and driving Hummers. That is hypocrisy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyro, try and follow along. Periods generally indicate that one statement has ended and another one begins.  The first sentence of the post you refer to was about the frivolous McDonald&#8217;s suit brought to you by America&#8217;s trial lawyers.  The second sentence was about hedge funds.  And you said I never mentioned hedge funds. No Rice-A-Roni or Turtle Wax for you. Thanks for playing.</p>
<p>As for Enlightened Liberal, it would be hypocrisy if he was still deriving money from it and arguing against it at the same time. Like Edwards being Mr. Poverty and Mr. $400 Haircut at the same time. Or all the Hollywood celebs following Gore&#8217;s &#8220;the sky-is-falling&#8221; environmental routine while flying around in private planes and driving Hummers. That is hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73557</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 22:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73557</guid>
		<description>Today, George Bush talked about increasing fuel economy and alternative fuels while he and his family derive their fortune from oil.  Hypocrisy?  According to Hedley, yes!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, George Bush talked about increasing fuel economy and alternative fuels while he and his family derive their fortune from oil.  Hypocrisy?  According to Hedley, yes!</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73556</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 22:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73556</guid>
		<description>Hedley, as anyone who actually read your post could tell you, that post was actually some juvenile and ignorant bleating about lawsuits against McDonald's. You don't even read your own posts. What a joke.

The sooner the right-wingers stop flapping their ignorant gums about Edwards, the better off we'll all be. You're simply too uninformed and too ignorant to comment on the actual blog post. So why don't you be quiet?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedley, as anyone who actually read your post could tell you, that post was actually some juvenile and ignorant bleating about lawsuits against McDonald&#8217;s. You don&#8217;t even read your own posts. What a joke.</p>
<p>The sooner the right-wingers stop flapping their ignorant gums about Edwards, the better off we&#8217;ll all be. You&#8217;re simply too uninformed and too ignorant to comment on the actual blog post. So why don&#8217;t you be quiet?</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73555</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 21:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73555</guid>
		<description>Shorter Tyro: I don't read well.

"Nothing wrong with hedge funds."
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Tyro: I don&#8217;t read well.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nothing wrong with hedge funds.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73554</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 20:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73554</guid>
		<description>Hedley, I count no comments of yours related to hedge funds. They are all hysterical bleatings about trial lawyers and ambulance chasers based solely on talking points, most not even related to predatory practices of mortgage brokers who are not related to hedge funds.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedley, I count no comments of yours related to hedge funds. They are all hysterical bleatings about trial lawyers and ambulance chasers based solely on talking points, most not even related to predatory practices of mortgage brokers who are not related to hedge funds.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73553</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 20:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73553</guid>
		<description>Shorter Tyro: I only read the bottom of threads.

Let's see if we can clear things up for you.  I have no problem at all with hedge funds and understand them perfectly.  The issue is that Edwards worked for a hedge fund that was a player inthe subprime lending market while railing against "predatory practices" such as those inherent in the subprime lending market.  Some (read, anyone but Libs) might call that hypocrisy.  Others (read, anyone but Libs might be amused by the idea of a trial lawyer being against "predatory practices" when said trial lawyer derived his cast fortune from preying upon defendants with varying degrees of responsibiltiy and even more varying degrees of deep pockets.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Tyro: I only read the bottom of threads.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if we can clear things up for you.  I have no problem at all with hedge funds and understand them perfectly.  The issue is that Edwards worked for a hedge fund that was a player inthe subprime lending market while railing against &#8220;predatory practices&#8221; such as those inherent in the subprime lending market.  Some (read, anyone but Libs) might call that hypocrisy.  Others (read, anyone but Libs might be amused by the idea of a trial lawyer being against &#8220;predatory practices&#8221; when said trial lawyer derived his cast fortune from preying upon defendants with varying degrees of responsibiltiy and even more varying degrees of deep pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73552</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73552</guid>
		<description>Check out this though:

&lt;i&gt;As the former research director of a dorm-room hedge fund (it was the sort of thing that kids started at Harvard during the tech bubble) I feel that I'm in good position to explain what hedge funds are and why we should have no serious problems with them.

Hedge funds are basically like mutual funds -- you give them your money and they manage it for you.  The big difference is that they're allowed to pursue more complicated strategies than just buying stocks, like short-selling and playing with derivatives.  Since the government doesn't want ordinary citizens blindly investing in funds that might be doing strange and risky things, hedge funds are only open to wealthy investors and institutions like banks and pension funds. &lt;/i&gt;

I am not sure how to understand these two paragraphs, but my initial take is to think less of Neil and of Harvard "kids."
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this though:</p>
<p><i>As the former research director of a dorm-room hedge fund (it was the sort of thing that kids started at Harvard during the tech bubble) I feel that I&#8217;m in good position to explain what hedge funds are and why we should have no serious problems with them.</p>
<p>Hedge funds are basically like mutual funds &#8212; you give them your money and they manage it for you.  The big difference is that they&#8217;re allowed to pursue more complicated strategies than just buying stocks, like short-selling and playing with derivatives.  Since the government doesn&#8217;t want ordinary citizens blindly investing in funds that might be doing strange and risky things, hedge funds are only open to wealthy investors and institutions like banks and pension funds. </i></p>
<p>I am not sure how to understand these two paragraphs, but my initial take is to think less of Neil and of Harvard &#8220;kids.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73551</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73551</guid>
		<description>Shorter Hedley: I don't know what a hedge fund is, so I'll just use right-wing talking points about Edwards instead.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Hedley: I don&#8217;t know what a hedge fund is, so I&#8217;ll just use right-wing talking points about Edwards instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73550</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 19:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73550</guid>
		<description>While the far majority of cases do not go to trial, the settlements, no matter how small, add up.  Go ask any doctor who can no longer afford malpractice insurance.  Why are so many OB-GYNs no longer delivering babies?

As for trial lawyers, chum, they are a drain on society whether they be Democrats or Republicans.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the far majority of cases do not go to trial, the settlements, no matter how small, add up.  Go ask any doctor who can no longer afford malpractice insurance.  Why are so many OB-GYNs no longer delivering babies?</p>
<p>As for trial lawyers, chum, they are a drain on society whether they be Democrats or Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: chum</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73549</link>
		<dc:creator>chum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 19:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73549</guid>
		<description>Oh oh, I sense another O'Reilly flow chart tracing this back to George Soros coming up on Talking Points.

My guess is Hedley loved trial lawyers in Bush v Gore.

Maybe Edwards should have got involved with war bonds based on his erstwhile support for Bush's military endeavors.

Anyone who invests in a hedge fund needs to have their profits siphoned off by a tool like Edwards.  I'd rather be dealing with my neighborhood bookie
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh oh, I sense another O&#8217;Reilly flow chart tracing this back to George Soros coming up on Talking Points.</p>
<p>My guess is Hedley loved trial lawyers in Bush v Gore.</p>
<p>Maybe Edwards should have got involved with war bonds based on his erstwhile support for Bush&#8217;s military endeavors.</p>
<p>Anyone who invests in a hedge fund needs to have their profits siphoned off by a tool like Edwards.  I&#8217;d rather be dealing with my neighborhood bookie</p>
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		<title>By: jimmmm</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73548</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 17:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73548</guid>
		<description>Not regulated like regular equity funds. EL: nice summary. The arrival of institutional monies makes FTC regulation of hedge funds an absolute necessity.

Hedley: You're badly misinformed. In fact, your whole perception of torts law is inverted: The overwhelming majority of settlements and verdicts are relatively small and account for expenses and lost opportunities; the ones you're referring to are the biggest, most controversial punative awards. Applying the exception as the rule works in both directions, and in neither case are they welcome in a rational discussion about tort and liability law.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not regulated like regular equity funds. EL: nice summary. The arrival of institutional monies makes FTC regulation of hedge funds an absolute necessity.</p>
<p>Hedley: You&#8217;re badly misinformed. In fact, your whole perception of torts law is inverted: The overwhelming majority of settlements and verdicts are relatively small and account for expenses and lost opportunities; the ones you&#8217;re referring to are the biggest, most controversial punative awards. Applying the exception as the rule works in both directions, and in neither case are they welcome in a rational discussion about tort and liability law.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73547</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 16:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73547</guid>
		<description>The McDonald's case was about trial lawyers and their best friend frivolous litigation. Plain and simple.

Nothing wrong with hedge funds. A great place to "investigate poverty."
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The McDonald&#8217;s case was about trial lawyers and their best friend frivolous litigation. Plain and simple.</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with hedge funds. A great place to &#8220;investigate poverty.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73546</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 16:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LTCM came to my mind too.  I don't know whether that indicates hedge fund regulation though as much as derivitative regulation.  Maybe higher margin requirements, etc. I don't know.  The theory behind hedge funds was that they don't need to be regulated because they only serve high wealth individuals.  On the other hand, since pension funds and mutual funds are investing in hedge funds now, maybe some regulation is necessary to protect the small investor.  I hope no pension funds were invested in the hedge fund that lost $6 billion in 2 weeks last Fall in the Natural Gas (?) market.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LTCM came to my mind too.  I don&#8217;t know whether that indicates hedge fund regulation though as much as derivitative regulation.  Maybe higher margin requirements, etc. I don&#8217;t know.  The theory behind hedge funds was that they don&#8217;t need to be regulated because they only serve high wealth individuals.  On the other hand, since pension funds and mutual funds are investing in hedge funds now, maybe some regulation is necessary to protect the small investor.  I hope no pension funds were invested in the hedge fund that lost $6 billion in 2 weeks last Fall in the Natural Gas (?) market.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73545</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 16:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's pretty clear by the way you stated the McDonald's case that you have no idea of what it was about.  Do some research and get back to us when you know enough to have an informed opinion.

And, by the way, this thread is about hedge funds.  I'm not playing your diversionary game about "teh trial lawyers!@#!!!!11!!!"
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear by the way you stated the McDonald&#8217;s case that you have no idea of what it was about.  Do some research and get back to us when you know enough to have an informed opinion.</p>
<p>And, by the way, this thread is about hedge funds.  I&#8217;m not playing your diversionary game about &#8220;teh trial lawyers!@#!!!!11!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73544</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, coffee is hot. Be careful if you spill it. But if you do, make sure to get counsel.
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73543</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 16:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73543</guid>
		<description>For every legitimate personal injury case there are loads which are of questionable merit designed to extract big paydays for the lawyers that prey on the hospitals, insurance companies, etc.  Gotta love the trial lawyers.  As long as they get their cut, it's ok.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For every legitimate personal injury case there are loads which are of questionable merit designed to extract big paydays for the lawyers that prey on the hospitals, insurance companies, etc.  Gotta love the trial lawyers.  As long as they get their cut, it&#8217;s ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73542</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 15:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem Hedley, if your daughter god forbid gets her insides ripped out by a defective pool drain I guess you won't be seeking counsel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem Hedley, if your daughter god forbid gets her insides ripped out by a defective pool drain I guess you won&#8217;t be seeking counsel.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73541</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2007/05/14/oh-no-teh-hedge-funds/#comment-73541</guid>
		<description>A glorified ambulance chaser being "against predatory practices." That's rich.
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