Here’s your change.

It was Bush that told us Iraq had chemical weapons when Iraq didn’t have chemical weapons. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that told us Iraq had nuclear weapons. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that told us Iraq had terrorist ties to Al Qaeda. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that failed to get significant meaningful international support. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that failed to send enough troops to stop the looting. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that failed to send enough troops to secure suspected WMD and known nuclear material sites. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that failed to send enough troops to secure found weapons and ammo dumps. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that failed to plan for post-invasion occupation. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that authorized torture. Therefore it falls on Bush.

It was Bush that has failed to adapt or even admit to the deteriorating situation. Therefore it falls on Bush.

Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Yeah, there was an entire Senate that let the country down by listening and believing GW Bush. It doesn’t excuse Bush for committing us to this war however.

And B TW, all, we do not know at this point whether Iraq will be a success or failure. Though, if the Dems lead us tos urrender, we guarantee failure (your only counter argument would be that staying the course constitutes an unknown, greater failure -guessing).

Dick Armey laying it in Bush’s lap.

1. The Democrats were dumb to vote to authorize the use of force.

2. Bush was even dumber to actually use the force, have no plan for the post-Saddam and to continue to escalate that war.

Almost all of the Dems and some Republicans who stupidly voted for the war have now clearly said they made a horrible decision. Bush still thinks it was the right decision and if we have to lose 3,000 more American lives to allow him to say he did the right thing, so be it he believes.

Why do you absolve Bush of his ultimate decision as CiC to go to war? The Democrats and Republicans have their hands in this, but when the issue is war the buck stops at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. That’s true when we win wars and when we have lost wars. Period.

On January 21, 2001.

Um, yes.

Get to work. I want to see that list.

I don’t believe Democrats or Republicans are necessarily stupid. I take exception to OWs charge that the invasion of Iraq was ‘ginned up’ and the people who did it were, in effect, stupid (intelligence way over estimated). If they were stupid (ie, the Admin) then what does thats ay about the people who followed them: stupid and spineless? And absolutely, the war vote was a war vote. Everybody knew it and knows it. Google leftist John Edwards on this. Only *ss covering Dems (and maybe an R here of or there) are saying otherwise. It was a war vote. Check out he headlines and news descriptions.

This isn’t about who Bush and co suckered into supporting the invasion of Iraq, it’s about the inevitability of at least an attempt on Iran.

If you really are dugger. You seems…different today somehow.

Michael votes for ’stupid Democrats’ because frat boy tricked them.

Bill L votes for mega- spineless Democrats (not an option, but I’ll accept his independent assessment).

OW just ducks the question (I guess it could be kind of ‘officially’ embarrassing).

At this point then its a tie: half think stupid frat boy Bush hoodwinked the Dems, including the world’s smartest woman, and the other half just thinks Dems are spineless surrender monkeys (to Bush) - I guess this would also include Hillsy and grade A certified ‘reporting for duty’ hero Kerry.

This a public service by Dugger.

Isn’t this exactly what Saddam was planning to do before the invasion?
Hmmmmm.

Isn’t this exactly what Saddam was planning to do before the invasion?
Hmmmmm.

a.)Oil? Check

b.)Planning to sell oil for Euros rather than dollars? Check

c.)Embarrassed U.S. with hostages and then with Iran/Contra? Check

d.)Openly trades with China and Russia? Check

e.)Potentially working on a nuclear deterrent that would undermine U.S. hegemony and strip Israel of it’s regional trump card? Check

f.)In possession of anti-ship missile technology (Sunburn) that may very well f*ck up the whole U.S. carrier fleet? Check

Why yes, Dugger, many spineless Dems, cowed by the administration’s dominance of all three branches of power and fearful of public perception, gave King George a wholly undeserved blank check to go on a murderous rampage in Iraq. Should we all survive this pathological administration, maybe America will finally learn to outgrow its fatalistic military fetish and start dealing with the world like grown ups.