Democrats:
-Port security
-Airport security
-Alternative Energies
-Rebuild military
-Rebuild National Guard
-Upgrade military equipment and training
-Upgrade training and equipment of 1st responders nationwide
-Finish the job in Afghanistan
-Capture ObL
-Make sure intelligence is free from political pressure
-Secure loose Nuclear mateials

Republicans:
-Stay the failing course
-Focus efforts on weeding out liberals and non-KoolAid drinkers in government.
-Blame critics for problems
-Increase energy dependence
-Ignore Afghanistan
-Encourage contracting abuse
-Ignore New Orleans
-Degrade military capabilities
-Torture
-Racial profiling
-Secure the border from illegal immigrants, oops, that would shut down the low-paid employment pool, nevermind.
-Photo Ops
-Spy on Americans without warrants.

We are doing all of those things. When we Bush-cultists say ‘fight the war on terror’, we don’t actually mean ‘respond after the fact to a successful’ terrorist attack on US soil.
Are you saying our airports and ports aren’t secure? I know of no major problems. And which 9/11 recos are you talking about?

Or are you not talking to me?

On Dec. 11, in the village of Upper Pachir - located a few miles northeast of the main complex of caves where Al Qaeda fighters were holed up - a Saudi financier and Al Qaeda operative, Abu Jaffar, was interviewed by the Monitor. Fleeing the Tora Bora redoubt, Mr. Jaffar said that bin Laden had left the cave complexes roughly 10 days earlier, heading for the Parachinar area of Pakistan.

“No one told us to surround Tora Bora,” Mr. Zahir complained. “The only ones left inside for us were the stupid ones, the foolish and the weak.”

And no one thinks going to war with Russia is a good idea, and no one said that. That part of Midder’s suggestion would work in concert with that which we have lost; diplomacy with the russians and improved international relations.

When they actually try to articulate a policy, its ridiculous.

Well, yeah, it is when you’ve finished parsing it.

Must I even do the thinking for progressives here. That says AQ not OBL. Give me a real lead and I’ll be happy to read it. Or did you do a crappy job on the lead in? Get it right, correct your error or forget it.

But I must warn you, the adults think it is BS that we could have actually captured OBL and didn’t (and I’m not talking about Bubba either way)

Midder,

You listed 10 things. Being generous, two of them were something other than post attack response measures and/or pre attack prevetitive measures. Those two: first- you would destroy nukes in the USSR. Exactly how? You do understand that Russia might have some sayso over their own sovereign territory? Right? Would you go to war with Russia, Midder ol’ foreign policy expert. If the casualties in iraq upset you, what do you think they would be in Russia - Mr Foreign Policy? Secure Afghanistan. Again how? We won major combat ops in Afghan too. Long time ago. How many soldiers do you think it would take to guarantee an incident free Afghan, Midder? You have a clue? You think we could do it with the soldiers from Iraq?

You well illustrate why progressives stick with Bush hate. When they actually try to articulate a policy, its ridiculous.

What are the Republican ideas they have enacted? Ferret out those not fanatically devoted to them, stealing the democrat’s ideas, talk big, expose covert agents, reveal turned Al Qaeda personel, spy on everyone, torture, violate civil rights in various ways, cronyism, corporate welfare, throw cash away with no accounting, invading countries that have nothing to do with terrorism, fail to provide security in the countries they do invade, and generally fuck up. Nice record there.

Oh yeah and $40 billion for a color coded terror alert system that seems most attuned to political alarms.

How bin Laden got away
A day-by-day account of how Osama bin Laden eluded the world’s most powerful military machine.
By Philip Smucker | Special to The Christian Science Monitor

“The border with Pakistan was the key, but no one paid any attention to it,” he said, leaning back in his swivel chair with a short list of the Al Qaeda fighters who were later taken prisoner. “And there were plenty of landing areas for helicopters, had the Americans acted decisively. Al Qaeda escaped right out from under their feet.”
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0304/p01s03-wosc.html

Are you saying the military could have efinitely captured BIn Lane and let him get away?

Or are you even saying that they could have and Bush would not give them the go ahead?

First, when are Democrats going to get the rhetoric side of political competition. Saying “you distorted my postion” is so weak it makes me puke. Call the other side “con artists”. Use strong language; the GOP did not reach its current position using weak language like “distorted my position”. Weak words equals loser. All they need is signs saying “they let bin Laden get away.”

Second, please don’t feed the trolls. They lose their ability to forage for their natural food, other trolls.

We’ve lost, Dugger. Admitting it is not weakness.

And how’s about this for a progressive plan for fighting the war on terrorism: start by finding out where the Christ Osama bin Laden might be now.

I have yet to see the progressive plan for fighting the war on terrorism. So far the only specific I’ve seen is surrender in Iraq.

Now, if you were a soldier and you saw what the Democrats did vis a vis Iraq, would you feel very good about responding to a Democratic CinC’s order to go into combat?

Or is it that Democrats really don’t want peace, they just want wars where no Americans die, like Bill Clinton’s great “victory” in Serbia?

Maybe someone can explain to me how bombing/nuking/invading Pakistan and southern Afghanistan is going to have a chilling effect on world terrorism.

Unfortunately Al Qaeda shoots back. If we are going to fight terrorists, then we no longer have the luxury of bombing nations like Serbia that never had any intention of engaging us in battle and weren’t capable of shooting back at our planes.

Sorry, I’m not the one living in the weird parallel universe.

That turned out well, didn’t it Mike?

Hey, that’s a start. Democracy’s hard work, y’know.