Of course, in no time if this pans out, we’ll hear how Rove was simply not in the inner circle, not a major player in the White House, just not a figure of consequence…
Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor in the C.I.A. leak case, is expected to decide in the next two to three weeks whether to bring perjury charges against Karl Rove, the powerful adviser to President Bush, lawyers involved in the case said Thursday.
With the completion of Mr. Rove’s fifth appearance before the grand jury on Wednesday, Mr. Fitzgerald is now believed to have assembled all of the facts necessary to determine whether to seek an indictment of Mr. Rove or drop the case.
I’m no expert on any of the whole Plame thing, but five times in front of a grand jury having to clarify your story and go over stories again and again… it sure doesn’t sound good. My guess: perjury, obstruction of justice. Who knows, though?
Sort of like how we’re already hearing from Republicans who’re going wobbly on Bush say “He’s not really a conservative anyway. He’s a moderate.” Their years of caricaturing liberalism has literally reduced it, in their minds, to how much money Congress spends. As if the conservative movement could ever truly be separated from its architects and practitioners. It’s fun to watch a formerly disciplined movement crack up, in any case. And it’s funny to watch them delude themselves that they can “porkbust” their way out of the deficit, too.
Patrick Fitzgerald is a straight-shooter and so is Joe Wilson. I’m betting they have become pals.
Wilson’s wife had her career ruined because Joe told the truth. He is a man of considerable courage and resources, and he is really pissed off. Fitzgerald will serve Wilson’s revenge to him on ice.
“Rove? Never met him, maybe I shook his hand in a receiving line. I shake a lot of hands, y’know.”
“I see. Mr. President. Is that why YOUR hands are shaking?”
I’m leaning towards the theory — speculative, but what isn’t? — that Rove has a deal to squeal on someone higher up.
Thanks Buma, I forgot that. That really should have been #1.
Better have the checklist ready for the Rove indictment, so that we can be ready for the spin.
ROVE INDICTMENT SPIN CHECKLIST.
Pick one or more:
The Rove indictment is really not important because
1.________ Karl Rove is a minor player in the White House. Hardly anyone knows him. Frankly, he is a nothing.
2.________ Everyone knows you can indict a ham sandwich
3_________Karl Rove is being indicted because of Fitz’s Bushhate
4.________ The Democrats are just criminalizing politics.
5.________ Karl Rove isn’t being indicted for outing Valerie Plame, because she was just a desk jockey.
6.________ Karl Rove is being offered a plea bargain to convict Joe Wilson, whose wife forced the CIA to send him to Africa.
(Bonus spin points if you choose 5 and 6 together)
7.________ Jack Abramoff is setting up Rove to get a lighter sentence for himself
8.________ The Karl Rove indictment is in fact not an indictment at all, if you read the court papers. He is actually getting nominated for the medal of freedom.
9.________ The liberal media forced Fitz to indict Karl Rove because of their Bushhate and their hope that the country embraces Communism.
10._______ The special prosecutor questioned Karl Rove on items not pertaining to the Plame inquiry specifically to catch Rove in misstatements (NOT LIES!).
11._______ Karl Rove cannot be convicted because Valerie Plame was not covert. Pay no attention to what the CIA and Fitz says about her covert status. They are blinded by Bushhate.
I m sure that in the liberal worldview, the more often a Republican goes to a Grand Jury, the guiltier he gets.
Frank_D — yesterday
Patrick Fitzgerald is a straight-shooter and so is Joe Wilson. I m betting they have become pals.
“Grandstanders of a feather, flock together…”
It s fun to watch a formerly disciplined movement crack up, in any case.
Yes, it was
Only three weeks ago weren’t Fox talking heads telling us that the resignation of DeLay (remember him?) would hurt Democrats?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200604050012?offset=20&show=1
There are plenty of other scandals created by GOP corruption. It’s a supply-side growth industry.
12. It’s all Clinton’s fault.
Interesting…
Have you had conversations with Fitzgerald that the rest of us don’t know about? He has stated publically that “her association with the CIA was classified,” but I hadn’t realized he had commented on her covert status.
Five times in front of a grand jury? I say hang him, then hold a show trial with unbiased Ronnie Earl as Grand Inquisitor! All in the spirit of a true compassionate progressivism, of course.
Dugger, Nobody Expects the Progressive Inquisition.
I forgot about that ham sandwich line. Truly an immortal in the pantheon of endlessly recycled idiotic conservative cliches, along with “fever swamp,” “moonbat,” and “guilty, your honor.”
Seriously, Hattie, what are “hoping” for? In what way will his indictment do anything for you, and anyone you know?
Silly.
Not just you.
All you lefties.
Indict him, Indict her, don’t let him / her on the Supreme Court — fail George, fail!
13. He hasn’t been indicted!
Tommy: That’s not a conservative cliche
Better luck next time.
But you’re not going empty - handed! You’ll get our Home Game of “What the Hell do I Know? I’m just a Liberal!”
We wait and hope.
I don’t remember any glee, because I didn’t feel any. But thanks for the revelation of the Democratic’s motives behind this.
Incidentally, time is running out for you guys
And I don’t remember Pollack being a conservative.
I don t remember any glee, because I didn t feel any.
Yeah, ok.
And I don t remember Pollack being a conservative.
It was not a conservative/liberal observation. It was the absurdity of the process. At least IMO. But I see your point. Not a conservative cliche. Just not a liberal one either.
Tom may have been referring to this.
“You ll get our Home Game of What the Hell do I Know? I m just a Liberal!
Thanks, Frank, for proving my point about Conservatives, your cliched language, and your cliched minds. Did you steal that gag from late-eighties Paula Poundstone? Or was it Joe Piscopo-era SNL? Either way, megadittos!
Frank, try to remember the glee you felt when Clinton was impeached and then you might understand.
Anyway, regardless of the origin of the ham sandwich cliche, the only place I see it is in conservative blogosphere, who endlessly ape and chew over the florid, hackneyed, faux-British style of Tyrell and the other dittoplagiarists.
In what way will his indictment do anything for you, and anyone you know?
An idictment moves him closer to accountability, and will most likely impede his ruinous rampage through the American political landscape that is current administration policy.
This is a TREMENDOUSLY good thing. Not to mention the negative effect it will have on public perception of the Republican party.
Which is another good thing. They have failed this country and should suffer the consequences come ‘06 and ‘08. They need to be stopped, and if guilty of criminal activity, punished.
I don t remember any glee, because I didn t feel any.
Well, good for you! Me? Come indictment time, and (hopefully) conviction time, I’m going to dance on the GOP’s grave. *tap* *tappity* *tap*
He just decided to investigate the lewinsky thing because& well, I m not sure.
‘cuz that’s all they could find. And they had to use a wire to get that!
Are you trying to tell me that if he had resigned you would have admired it? Puhleeze.
You would have been at the front of the line crowing about what a liliy-livered, yella-bellied cowardly lib he was.
So, then, you’ll be calling for the resignation of Bush and company if they’re proven guilty?
No, didn’t think so.
BTW, your link is kind of worthless, because Ken Starr was hired to investigate “whitewater” (on which he found nothing). The article says he was hired to investigate the lewinsky bit. He just decided to investigate the lewinsky thing because…well, I’m not sure. Probably because he isn’t smart enough to whack off and it gave him a big neocon chubby.
Oh, one more thing. Clinton was acquitted. So why are you still talking about it? After all, if you’ve enough faith in the system to not want to talk about someone who has not yet been found guilty, why are you still complaining so bitterly about someone who WAS EXPLICITLY FOUND NOT GUILTY?
Just curious.
Good for you, Curmudgeon. Be sure and read the tombstone carefully, before you start dancing. It might say, Liberalism, R.I.P.
Duros: I wasn’t gleeful, I was disgusted. If he had had any balls, he would have resigned. He was too vain for that.
Did you steal that gag from late-eighties Paula Poundstone? Or was it Joe Piscopo-era SNL?
Neither.
I’m glad he had balls enough to stand up to those bullies who tried to take him down over something that really was none of their business.
I don’t know exactly what “worth” the link was supposed to have, for you, anyway. The Special Prosecutor crap is coming to an end, and with it, all the sad baggage, for both parties, that it brought with it.
You would have been at the front of the line crowing about what a liliy-livered, yella-bellied cowardly lib he was.
Nah, just breathing a sigh of relief.
Just breathing a sigh of relief
Ahh, thank God those years of economic prosperity, government surpluses, international respect and a fully functioning FEMA are over with. Siiiiiiiiigh.