Oliver Willis

18 Responses to “Snow The Pacifier”

1. 1 frameone
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 5:04 pm

   “do you think there is a problem with firing someone for leaking information they believe is real?”

   Let me guess, ped, you do and you have.

   As for lies told by Scot McClellan he has passed along his share of misinformation hasn’t he? Rove and Libby weren’t involved in the leak of Plame’s name? Ya right. Now was McClellan in on the deception or a mere dupe of higher ups? What a choice.

2. 2 Quaker in a Basement
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 5:04 pm

   As for lies told by Scot McClellan he has passed along his share of misinformation hasn t he? Rove and Libby weren t involved in the leak of Plame s name?

   I think if you look up the transcript, you’ll find that McClellan didn’t say that, categorically. He told the reporters that he was told that Rove and Libby weren’t involved.

   Slippery, yes, but also truthful.

3. 3 Oliver Willis
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 5:04 pm

   Really shrill = you disagree. Sigh. Been hearing that for years now.

   Look, McClellan’s whole job is to lie for Bush, something he did regularly. The press simply had to look at his claims and compare them to the facts. They fail at this most basic function, yet if you even hint that Bill Clinton looked at someone funny its a national crisis.

4. 4 drpedro
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 5:04 pm

   It was bad enough the way that the odiously lying Scott McClellan was called  honest

   Oliver do you know Scott? Have you ever been briefed by scott?

   Can you please demonstrate a lie told by scott?

   Why is it that I am supposed to just take a leftist bloggers word for it that professional journalist just can’t seem to decide if someone is honest or not?

   Your commentary has really gotten shrill lately….Things ok at work?

5. 5 frameone
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 5:04 pm

   Ahem (Clipboard detritus):

   “Oliver do you know Scott? Have you ever been briefed by scott?”

   Let me guess, ped, you do and you have.

6. 6 duros62
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

   Depends on how you define “sky”

7. 7 drpedro
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

   No Ollie,

   Really shrill= not backed by any sort of evidence, and is the cheapest form of ad hominem attack along the lines of “your mother wears combat boots”.

   So he is a regular liar…how about some evidence?

   You keep saying he does so regularly, and that it is “simple”. How about you showing us why?

   Remember in math class? You don’t get credit unless you show your work…

8. 8 garth
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

   pedro, bush’s lies are translated to the press by the press secretary. Bush has lied about:

   Domestic wiretapping
   Uniting, not dividing
   “changing the tone”
   helping the poor
   helping with gas costs
   preserving SS
   helping the military
   wether or not we were going to war in Iraq
   wether or not he was going to fire the person/people who leaked information in re Plame
   Clean Air.
   Clean Water.
   Toxins in our environment
   the disbursement of his tax cuts
   giving one god-damn about anyone who is not as wealthy or wealthier than he is

   and on,
   and on,
   and on.

   McLelland repeated those lies. are you dim? Are you a tiny baby grasping at mama neocon’s tit? repeating a lie is lying too, you know.

   you can find your own references to the above. If you think coming and trolling someone’s comments is a place to have a well-orchestrated airing of facts, you’re an ass. They’re out there, you just can’t see it. you’re an ideological hack who trolls comments. does that make you feel good?

   They’re pretty well-documented. and if you want to split hairs over the definition of a lie, well, you’re an ass.

   finally, i think you’re an ass.

9. 9 frameone
   Apr 26th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

   “You don t get credit unless you show your work& ”

   Which reminds me, we’re still waiting for those publishing citations of yours, pedro …

10. 10 duros62
    Apr 26th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    You guys would want a thirty page report if I said the sky was blue. But start…
    And they’d still disagree.

11. 11 Oliver Willis
    Apr 26th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    I’m not going to get bogged down in conservative nonsense of documenting the obvious. You guys would want a thirty page report if I said the sky was blue. But start here…

12. 12 frameone
    Apr 26th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    ” He told the reporters that he was told that Rove and Libby weren t involved.”

    That’s what I meant when I wrote:”Now was McClellan in on the deception or a mere dupe of higher ups?” Rove may not have knowingly lied but he passed on the lies of others as truth. pedro is all offended because of what he perceives as a slight to McLellan’s character. Well, how long has McLellan been on the job since he found out that A) he works for liars and B) The liars thought of him as a convenient dishrag? Wow, what character, what class. McClellan is a scumbag along with the rest of them.

13. 13 frameone
    Apr 26th, 2006 at 7:04 pm

    As to your “medical practice” I’ll hold you to your own standard:  You don t get credit unless you show your work& 

14. 14 drpedro
    Apr 26th, 2006 at 7:04 pm

    I get credit every day…from the people that count Paul

15. 15 frameone
    Apr 26th, 2006 at 7:04 pm

    I repeat:

    Well, how long has McLellan been on the job since he found out that A) he works for liars and B) The liars thought of him as a convenient dishrag? Wow, what character, what class. McClellan is a scumbag along with the rest of them.

16. 16 frameone
    Apr 26th, 2006 at 9:04 pm

    “I get credit every day& from the people that count Paul”

    Of course you do.

17. 17 duros62
    Apr 27th, 2006 at 11:04 am

    I get credit every day&

    ..but i’d prefer cash.

18. 18 buma
    Apr 27th, 2006 at 1:04 pm

    Unlike Scottie, Snow has a bit of a disadvantage to start off with. When Scottie first took over he had manly Jeff Gannon to grasp on to, at times when the questioning got hard.

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