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26 Responses to “New Orleans Mayoral Race”

1. 1 White Whale
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 12:04 pm

   I think it has something to do with the fact that many Conservatives could care less and in some cases would be happy if New Orleans just died. I do have to say that it is a shame that the GOP would not even try. New Orleans, in my opinion, is one of the most politically diverse cities in the U.S. I mean the GOP would probably need a moderate….oops those don’t exist in their party anymore.:)

2. 2 bryan
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 12:04 pm

   Runoff, is this a deliberate pun?

3. 3 drpedro
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 1:04 pm

   The GOP tries not to back losing horses….

   A city in a hurricane zone that is determined to “rebuild” while living 20 feet below sea-level….serious loser.

   I love New Orleans food, and it culture….but it was corrupt and an absolute criminal cesspool, so I am sure the GOP’ers simply gave it up to the democrats to ride to the bottom.

4. 4 White Whale
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 2:04 pm

   Hmmm… Americans and their cities are rather, well, investments to Republicans. Pedro, you fail to realize that the crime issue was serious, but changes were taking place and improving. As far as the GOP not backing losing horses, how about Katherine Harris, Lynn Swann, Micheal Steele? Sorry but you threw up a beach ball and I had to hit it out of the park.

5. 5 Bushwacked
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 3:04 pm

   “I love New Orleans food, and it culture& .but it was corrupt and an absolute criminal cesspool,…”

   While there may be “some” truth top this statement, there have been criminals in other large US cites. To call NO, a “criminal cesspool” is over the top. Especially when absolutely no facts are supplied to back the allegation up.

   But then some people just cant help themselves.
   http://www.redstate.com/redstate/gordon450.gif

6. 6 drpedro
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 4:04 pm

   it always cracks me up when people are forced to agree with me….

   “There may be ’some’ truth….”

   “crime was serious…but….”

   LOL

   As far as backing losing horses…I was referring to the city. There will always be winners and losers in races…The city of NO is the loser here, and the republicans are smart enough to know that ….

   Any of you lefties big Nagin (Chocolate City) fans? Pipe up like you have a pair then eh?

7. 7 Bushwacked
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pm

   As usual, no facts to back your original statement calling NO a “criminal cesspool”.

   Neither democrat appears attractive to me but the republicans must look even worse to the voters. Or maybe it has a little to do with how they feel about “compassionate conservatism”?

8. 8 Sundown
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 6:04 pm

   I don’t think it’s a good decision to just give up on New Orleans. It’s a part of our country, many people have returned or still want to return. Even Pedro agress that the culutre of the city is valuable, and while it doesn’t have to be confined to one small geographic area, it doesn’t seem the same elsewhere.

   Also, many cities have gone through periods of high crime, and they have worked to succesfully reduce crime. Minneapolis-St. Paul, for instance, had a high crime rate in the early 1990’s, which now doesn’t seem to be the case.

9. 9 drpedro
   Apr 23rd, 2006 at 8:04 pm

   My question about new orleans have more to do with the entirety of the situation…

   It is a tourist-based economy, it is geologically unsound, and getting worse , AND it has a huge crime-rate. Unlike the Twin-Cities, it is also essentially decimated.

   Might be time to pick up the toys and move to a new sandbox….

10. 10 White Whale
    Apr 23rd, 2006 at 9:04 pm

    I was born in New Orleans and I call it home because my family is from the area, so I personally refuse to give up on a city. Pedro, your suggestion is weak because I can name numerous cities with worse crime or geographical problems, but nobody is calling for its eradication. Again when it comes to life Republicans look at New Orleanians not as citizens that they share a country with, but as bad stock that they need to throw away. Nagin is an ass who has used his maverick way of speaking to endear himself to New Orleans(much like current idiots in the White House). Please don’t associate Nagin with “lefties”. He only became a Democrat because he could not win as a Republican. Go check it out. He is a pro-business Republican who changed his tune slightly. Just because he calls dear leader an asshole doesn’t mean he is a far left wingnut. If you(Pedro) are worried about the “entirety of the situation” you would probably take more into account than the immediate past of a city but I would venture to say that you don’t give a shit about New Orleans.(Eating a box of Zatarains rice and drinking Abita beer does not count for “loving the culture and food”). I am going down to Slidell next week to visit family, and from what I hear now this issue and Republican attitudes are not flying in the Pelican State.

11. 11 White Whale
    Apr 23rd, 2006 at 9:04 pm

    Why am I still awaiting moderation?

12. 12 Dana
    Apr 23rd, 2006 at 9:04 pm

    Sundown wrote:

    I don t think it s a good decision to just give up on New Orleans. It s a part of our country, many people have returned or still want to return. Even Pedro agress that the culutre of the city is valuable, and while it doesn t have to be confined to one small geographic area, it doesn t seem the same elsewhere.

    The Corps of Engineers was studying the levee system before Katrina hit, and upgrading the system would take 20 to 25 years. So, is it reasonable to pour billions upon billions of dollars into a city sitting well below sea level, when the next big hurricane could do the same thing to it all over again, and we have little hope of providing adequate protection from such an event for two more decades?

13. 13 Todd B.
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 12:04 am

    Meh, why did Mayor Nagin win anything? I wasn’t too impressed with him during the Katrina aftermath - he looked like he was too interested in pointing fingers and scoring cheap political points rather then actually helping the city rebuild.

    Not that anyone else did a better job. Everyone pretty much failed with Katrina.

14. 14 Frank_D
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 8:04 am

    If we’re (I mean the gummint) going to continue to insure homes in flood areas, all along the Mississippi, why not rehabilitate New Orleans?

    While it might be a good idea to re - assess the whole insurance / disaster scheme, if that’s not going to happen, then I say that New Orleans ranks at least a point or two higher than Hannibal, MO on a scale of American historical and cultural priorities.

    New Orleans is not just the land of begniers and chickory, it is also one of our major seaports, the birthplace of Jazz, and one of our last “foreign”, multicultural, cities.

    Would we not do the same for Mount Vernon, George Washington’s home?

15. 15 Dugger
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 8:04 am

    Has there ever been a ‘black power structure’ city where a white conservative was elected mayor? Ever? I don’t know, I doubt it. If I were running the GOP, I’d sure be spending money on close races and not places where “chocolate city’ is deemed acceptable political dialogue.

    Dugger, Did they ever find those dynamite receipts in the Bush records?

16. 16 drpedro
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 9:04 am

    whale please don’t misunderstand me….I wouldn’t “eradicate” the city based on its crime level….but if the city is already eradicated, I might not dump a pile of money into a place that is geographically unsound AND has a tremendous crime rate….

    If you want to rebuild the parts of the city that are at least above sea level…ok. But why put ourselves in the same position again in five or ten years by rebuilding in a sinkhole?

17. 17 qkslvr_wolf
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 11:04 am

    “I love New Orleans food, and it culture& .but it was corrupt and an absolute criminal cesspool, so I am sure the GOP ers simply gave it up to the democrats to ride to the bottom.” -DrPedro, neocon extrordinaire.

    Ahh, this quote right here is such a perfect window into the neocon worldview.

    When the going gets tough, we’ll give up on you! Vote for us!

    Thank, pedro. Way to actually say what you mean.

    I mean, I agree that New orleans needs to set some new rules up (no building below sea-level, perhaps?), but if pedro had his way we’d just cut it off from the states and hope batman comes to save it or something.

18. 18 BD
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 11:04 am

    How can we argue against the reconstruction of New Orleans on monetary terms when we’ve already poured billions upon billions of dollars in an attempt to rebuild Iraq…a country that is geopolitically unstable and suffering from an out-of-control crime level?

    Does the GOP really want to go there? Does it really want to tell American citizens that this country full of people who hate us is more important and worthy of money and man-hours than one of the oldest cities in America?

19. 19 SaveFarris
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 11:04 am

    I’m not entirely surprised about the outcome, given the way they rigged the election procedures. (polling stations in Houston and Atlanta?!?). Plus let’s be honest: when upwards of 75% are registered as Donkeys, it’s hard to expect a Republican win.

    What will be telling is the 2007 Governor’s election. Tom Benson may be the most hated person in the state, but Blanco is a close second. If Bobby Jindal wants to run again, it’s his for the taking.

20. 20 moonbat monitor
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 12:04 pm

    with all the corruption, crime, poor education, government incompetence, and businesses leaving NO in droves, I can’t believe that the people there would be stupid enough to reelect Nagin. Especially after his racist remarks and how poorly he handled Katrina also.

    It’s hard to have sympathy for them now. They’re repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result. That is the height of stupidity.

    I don’t care if they elect another Democrat, but for christ’s sake, just not Nagin. They midas well just go sit on their rooftops now.

21. 21 Dugger
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 1:04 pm

    BD said:

    “How can we argue against the reconstruction of New Orleans on monetary terms when we ve already poured billions upon billions of dollars in an attempt to rebuild Iraq& a country that is geopolitically unstable and suffering from an out-of-control crime level?”

    A pretty decent point.

    I don’t know what I’d do. Its easier to opine as a daring no-risk poster than to actually have to handle the problem. On one hand, something is wrong with taxpayers sustaining open-ended an expensively unsafe proposition like New Orleans. On the other, is BD’s point.

    Dugger

22. 22 drpedro
    Apr 24th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    I would agree with BD if left Iraq OK, and the same thing happened again. I think everyone deserves a fair shot…

23. 23 bryan
    Apr 25th, 2006 at 3:04 am

    Having read some of the comments on here, I think the crime rate on the West coast justifies leaving things as they are when the next big ‘quake hits.

24. 24 BD
    Apr 25th, 2006 at 10:04 am

    Pedro, your strange sentence structures aside, do you imply that Iraq has never seen war and political chaos before? Or that it’s never been a site of civil war sectarian violence before?

    Or is it just because we’ve never occupied liberated Iraq before?

    What are you saying?

25. 25 qkslvr_wolf
    Apr 25th, 2006 at 11:04 am

    Heh heh heh…

    Neocons say: Mayor nagin screws up with planning a cities evacuation, throw him out!

    Bush, Rumsfeld et al. screw up strategically in the war on terror: Reelect them! They’re doin’ a heckuva job!

26. 26 duros62
    Apr 25th, 2006 at 4:04 pm

    I might not dump a pile of money into a place that is geographically unsound AND has a tremendous crime rate& .
    Like LA or San Francisco?

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