Oliver Willis

23 Responses to “Flight 93 Movie”

1. 1 Frank_D
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 6:01 am

   In the light of your comment above, about Rep. John “Sgt. Fury” Murtha, and this article, I would say the timing is perfect.

2. 2 frameone
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 8:01 am

   Frank, could you remind us all again what Hussein had to do with Flight 93?

   And BTW, that isn’t an article, it’s a paranoid screed about about how white people are being outfucked by brown people. Perfect for a mushbrained moron such as yourself who goes “oooh” and “aaah” at whenever anyone tells you that you belong to the greatest country, the greatest civilization and the greatest race that the world has ever known. Don’t tell me you aren’t a fascist, Frank, when it’s plain as day to see that you would applaud the opening of the first camps.

3. 3 Frank_D
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 9:01 am

   Gee, frameone, glad to see you’ve calmed down. Since you don’t want me to tell you I’m not a fascist, I won’t. Don’t tell me you’re not a mad dog.

   I repeat: the timing of the movie is perfect. It should be playing when the Democrats begin their doomed campaigns in the fall of 2006.

   By the way, fuckhead, I do live in the greatest country ever known (name one better) and the greatest civilization ever known (name one better).

   Incidentally, what race am I again?

4. 4 frameone
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 9:01 am

   Great Frank you better start fucking and making more little Frank babies, as Steyn says: ‘”The West,” as a concept, is dead, and the West, as a matter of demographic fact, is dying.’

   Along the way you better take away women’s reproductive rights because we can’t tolerate women who don’t want to have more Frank babies so we can keep the West alive. As Steyn says: “If any of those women marching for their “reproductive rights” still have babies, they might like to ponder demographic realities: A little girl born today will be unlikely, at the age of 40, to be free to prance around demonstrations in Eurabian Paris or Amsterdam chanting “Hands off my bush!”

   It is not a big leap from “We have to out reproduce them” to “If we can’t beat them, we better start killing them.” And some of these coutnries ahve a head start on us. As Steyn writes: “Some countries are well above that: the global fertility leader, Somalia, is 6.91, Niger 6.83, Afghanistan 6.78, Yemen 6.75. Notice what those nations have in common?”

   Gee, what do those countries have in common? It’s all about culture, Steyn says, it has nothing to do with race. But every single country he points to as out fucking the West is populated with people of color be they of Asian, African or Middle Eastern descent. Sure, it’s about Islamism for Steyn, except of course when it’s also about the Chinese: “Pigs are valued assets and sleep in the living room in rural China–and next thing you know an unknown respiratory disease is killing people in Toronto …” Culture my ass. It’s all about race. If you align yourself with idiots like Steyn and you aren’t white Frank you’re a bigger moron than I thought you were because when all the foreign brown people are “contained” you’ll be next and it won’t matter to Steyn how many times you’ve seen Flight 93.

5. 5 Jay C
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 9:01 am

   And BTW, that isn t an article, it s a paranoid screed about about how white people are being outfucked by brown people.

   Can I get some of the stuff that makes the invisible typeset you guys can see in these articles available to the rest of us?

6. 6 frameone
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 10:01 am

   The gist is that Steyn is telling idiots like Frank that they can save the world just by reproducing. Steyn is telling idiots like Frank that as long as they embrace white European Christian traditions they are better than all those who don’t, most of whom happen to be of another color. There is no room for people of color and their experience in Steyn’s world. There is only room for those who embrace the ideas bequethed to them by long dead white Europeans. Everyone else is an enemy.

7. 7 frameone
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 10:01 am

   Oh Please Jay, all you have to do is read the damn thing. The whole article is premised on the fear that those damn Somalians — and other people of color — are out breeding us good clean wholesome Westerners.

   And regardless of race, how narcissistic do you have to be to believe that your seed will be the savior of civilization. Gimme a break. If you’re buying what Steyn is selling you’re feeble brained idiot with delusions of grandeur: “All I have to do is implant my seed to save the world.”

8. 8 frameone
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 10:01 am

   Oliver you got it wrong, Flight 93 will remind us that Dugger and Dr. Pedro and Frank need women to procreate with so that we can save the world.

9. 9 Oliver Willis
   Jan 6th, 2006 at 10:01 am

   Maybe the Flight 93 people will again remind people that we’re supposed to be fighting the terrorist organization that killed those people and not sitting around in Iraq getting shot at and crossing our fingers for “democracy”.

10. 10 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 10:01 am

    Two posts in a row held up by the moderator. Oh well.

11. 11 Frank_D
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 12:01 pm

    frameone: Your ability to act like an asshole nearly beggars description. Take those pills the doctor gave you, take a few deep breaths and come back to the keyboard when your blood pressure isn’t so dangerously high.

    BTW, I gave you the benefit of a doubt, and re-read the article, looking for the part “about how white people are being outfucked by brown people.”
    I didn’t find it. Could you perhaps direct me to that portion of the article?

12. 12 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 1:01 pm

    Oh ya, I’m sure you re-read it Frank. I’m sure you re-read it and noticed that Steyn is arguing for the supremacy of White European theology and philosophy over all other systems of thought. I’m sure you didn’t notice that Steyn goes so far as to denigrate indigenous cultures as producers of “some wretched native dirge” while he glorifies the edifying aesthetics of “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.”

    I’m sure you noticed that even though Steyn describes a clash of cultures his solution is entirely biological. I’m sure you noticed that Steyn has entirely collapsed culture into biology when he refers to the culture of the “dying European races.” I’m sure you noticed how it isn’t such a great leap to go from the assertion that White European culture is superior to the assertion that white Europens are superior. I’m sure you noticed how Steyn is arguing that good minorities have embraced the ways of traditional white Europeans while bad minorities have not: “Will Japan be an economic powerhouse if it’s populated by Koreans and Filipinos? Very possibly. Will Germany if it’s populated by Algerians? That’s a trickier proposition.”

    I’m sure you noticed how odd it is that he should use Germany as the example here. But then again, you probably also noticed how telling it is that Steyn laments how his image of an ideal breeder, Cameron Diaz, has chosen to defend her “reproductive rights” (cute how he puts it in quotes) instead of lay back and breed us back into dominance.

    I’m sur eyou noticed this.

13. 13 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 2:01 pm

    You know, like all good eugenicists and fascists.

14. 14 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 2:01 pm

    Yes, I should be more adult like Steyn who masks his racist paranioa in the language of statistics and reason.

15. 15 PSU94
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 2:01 pm

    Frame,

    Are you in junior high? I can just picture you giggling while you’re typing “fucking” and “outfucking” over and over.

16. 16 Frank_D
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    frameone, I take it then that the answer to my question is “No”. You can’t direct me to the part of the article that is  about how white people are being outfucked by brown people.
    I read it again, still didn’t find it.

17. 17 Frank_D
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    How’s this, wild man?

    But it’s not about race, it’s about culture. If 100% of your population believes in liberal pluralist democracy, it doesn’t matter whether 70% of them are “white” or only 5% are. But if one part of your population believes in liberal pluralist democracy and the other doesn’t, then it becomes a matter of great importance whether the part that does is 90% of the population or only 60%, 50%, 45%.

    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but you’re still a fuckin’ asshole…

18. 18 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    Okay Frank, I’ll make it simple for you. Try reading the headline, idiot: “It’s the Demography, Stupid: The real reason the West is in danger of extinction.”

19. 19 Frank_D
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    I think I understand your error, frame.

    You have confused demography: The study of the distribution, density, and vital statistics of populations. with
    ethnography the study of the origin, characteristics, and distribution of different cultural and ethnic groups

    Certainly an understandable error for someone unfamiliar with the social sciences, and, might I add, the social graces.

    Hehe

20. 20 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    Touchy moderation. Two posts awaiting approval.

21. 21 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    Ya exactly. Clearly you didn’t read anything I wrote. Steyn says it’s all about culture but his solution is not cultural, ie debate and discussion of ideas, his solution is biological, that is, reproduction.

    Steyn:

    “Well, here’s my prediction for 2032: unless we change our ways the world faces a future . . . where the environment will look pretty darn good. If you’re a tree or a rock, you’ll be living in clover. It’s the Italians and the Swedes who’ll be facing extinction and the loss of their natural habitat.”

    Steyn solution to the “extinction” of the Swedes is to roll back reproductive rights so the West can start out breeding countries like Somalia, Niger, Afghanistan, China etc. Steyn moves smoothly back and forth between cultural issues and birth rates because he’s collapsed culture and race into a single category to fuel the basest kind of racist, supremecist paranoia: If the Arabs out breed us Islam will take over the world.

    Steyn again: “We are living through a remarkable period: the self-extinction of the races who, for good or ill, shaped the modern world.”

    Steyn is full of shit but he plays well to craven morons like you who eat it up because it feeds your shrunken little egos. You’re a big man Frank, now go breed and save civilization. Idiot.

22. 22 frameone
    Jan 6th, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    While my last post is being moderated I’ll say this:

    “I think I understand your error, frame.”

    No Frank, that’s exactly what Steyn has done and he isn’t doing it in error, he’s doing it on purpose. As I posted repeatedly he’s collapsed culture and biology to mask his racialist paranioa. At the root of his entire argument is that Western liberalism is in danger because the “races of Europe” are being out bred by non-Westerners.

    I give you Steyn:  We are living through a remarkable period: the self-extinction of the races who, for good or ill, shaped the modern world.

    Of course it’s clear that Steyn thinks that the great races of Europe have changed the world for the better while all those other races have given us nothing but “some wretched native dirges.” In his mind if we don’t wake up and start out breeding these darker people to the enlightened ways of Western European tradition then, literally, the world will fall into a new Dark Age.

    Steyn quoting Philip Longman asks: ” ‘Such a trend, if sustained, could drive human culture off its current market-driven, individualistic, modernist course, gradually creating an anti-market culture dominated by fundamentalism–a new Dark Ages.’

    Bottom line for Cameron Diaz: There are worse things than John Ashcroft out there.

    Mr. Longman’s point is well taken.”

    So Cameron Diaz andother Aryan babes like her better stop worrying about their reproductive rights and start making with the white babies or the world is doomed.

23. 23 Frank_D
    Jan 7th, 2006 at 6:01 am

    It’s not the moderation that’s touchy — it’s your mouth that’s like a toilet. And you still don’t understand the difference between culture and ethnicity, because you are an ignorant lunatic, an intellectual bully who thinks that profanity and obscenity are substitutes for thought and communication.

    You know, the current thinking on substance abuse is that it is a form of self - medication, and that certain illegal drugs are used to cope with specific pathologies, e.g., heroin for anger.

    You’re not by any chance de - toxing, are you?

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