My opinion of various past presidents is varied. I was never a fan of Ronald Reagan or the legacy he has left us with. George H.W. Bush was as tone deaf as they come, though not a rabid right-winger. And of course I think Bill Clinton was the best president of the last 30 years with some clear personal failings.
But they all had something in common: they knew how to lead. Presidents Reagan, Clinton, and Bush Sr. understood in one way or another that the mantle of the Presidency confers on the officeholder a solemn duty to present oneself as the leader of a nation during times of triumph and crisis.
Whether you agreed with him or not, Ronald Reagan was able to communicate the aura of presidential leadership - either in his stance against communism or while pushing his domestic policies.
Whether you agreed with him or not, George H.W. Bush was able to be accepted as President - telling Saddam Hussein his invasion of Kuwait was unacceptable and building an honest to goodness international coalition to accomplish the task of liberating Kuwait.
Whether you agreed with him or not, President Clinton was able to get the people on board with him to push economic and social reforms that helped transform America.
This most basic function of the United States presidency has proven to be lacking time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time again from George W. Bush. A skill that not only reflects poorly on our national image, but one that has affected whether people will live or die. It is as clear as the Summer night that George W. Bush is simply the worst president of the modern era… and quite possibly the worst we’ve ever had
George W. Bush gave one of the worst speeches of his life yesterday, especially given the level of national distress and the need for words of consolation and wisdom. In what seems to be a ritual in this administration, the president appeared a day later than he was needed. He then read an address of a quality more appropriate for an Arbor Day celebration: a long laundry list of pounds of ice, generators and blankets delivered to the stricken Gulf Coast. He advised the public that anybody who wanted to help should send cash, grinned, and promised that everything would work out in the end.
There are high school kids who would be more up to the task.
Maybe the President ought to take a page out of the playbook of my home state Governor Mike Easley…
http://realvalues.blogspot.com/2005/09/nc-governor-doing-what-our-president.html
Oliver, you’re a chickenhawk. If you REALLY support the Katrina aftermath, you’d be offering your home as shelter for refugees or delivering hot meals to all the aid workers.
There’s not a damn thing happening in Greater New Orleans (or Baton Rouge, for that matter) that couldn’t be made WORSE by a presidential visit. Those require security and crowd control, for obvious reasons. And those forces would have to be pulled away from their current duties of search & rescue. What people need down here are power, pumps, and a place to stay.
Other than “open the checkbook”, which, according to reports I’ve seen he’s already done, there’s not much else Bush CAN do.
Now, if John Kerry still knows how to run a Swift Boat…
ditto SaveFarris! Period
That chickenhawk thing really got to you, didn’t it Ferris? It must pain you knowing that people are dying in your place and you are too chicken/self-absorbed to help. If people like you were willing to fight for this country, maybe more Louisiana National Guardspeople would have been home to help the homeland in the time of disaster.
Our struggle effort is falling apart, what with conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, added to domestic trouble from Katrina, and you are so much dead weight on the ship, while you figure out ways to play politics with tragedy on a liberal blog. Are you doing YOUR part to support this country?
I’m the one playing politics?!? I guess I just mis-read the last 5 posts from Oliver then.
Thanks for questioning my patriotism!
Honestly, all this garbage is so irrelevant to us right now. We need clothes, toys, and places to house this mass of people. Medicine and textbooks wouldn’t be out of the question either. If ya’ll can stop your jihad against Bush just long enough to donate these things, we’d all be grateful.
OK, who left the door open and let the freepi in?
Let’s see: hundreds of electricians are on their way down to help restore power, many millions more have opened their checkbooks and donated funds which could have gone to a Labor Day Weekend to help out, volunteers are pouring in, and what do you do, Ferris? Troll around liberal blogs and drop insults like some idiot kid who wants to show his equally moronic friends just how sharp he is.
To say nothing of your president, our “esteemed” Dear Leader can’t get the lead out and end his precious vacation long enough to help save lives.
Thanks for the help. I’m sure that, if you leave now, you might be to get down to New Orleans in time to hook up with the Minutemen as they make a bid to “restore order” down in the Big Easy. Don’t forget to bring your own ammo.
I think it was his plan all along to get rid of democrat-voting poor people using a large hurricane.
I have to agree that a Presidential visit wouldn’t help the situation. Not that anyone would let Bush loose in that city with the security situation so bad. Did you hear about the situation at the Superdome this morning? If Bush landed, he’d probably get shot.
That said, his speech last night really was terrible. And while the help the government is sending seems appropriate, it’s coming about two day too late. They should have started organizing at least once they heard the Lake had breached.
Joe Schmoe, the “Bush cut levee funding” story is bogus. The article I saw said the money that got “cut” was going to the EASTERN levees. Which is well and good, but it’s levees on the WESTERN side of the city that were breached.
And let’s not forget, Kenner and Metarie were flooded out by Monday night, before the breach even occured.
They couldn’t “wait in the western Gulf” because:
A) this storm went from a 1 to a 5 in less than 24 hours.
B) Up until Friday afternoon (less than 72 hours before landfall), the predicted path of the storm had Katrina hitting Pensacola, bypassing New Orleans entirely.
C) Related, hurricanes are, despite scientific advances, still extremely unpredictable. Had Katrina continued to jog westward, you’ve just trapped those resources directly in the path of the storm.
Those preparations that could be made were. By Sunday night, local power companies had staged all their operations here in Baton Rouge ready to roll in the second the winds died down, not knowing that New Orleans would become impassable.
“And for the conservative commentators for this blog…shut up…we already know what you will say..”
Wow, with intelligence like that, maybe it wasn’t your partner that caused your business to fail.
And while the help the government is sending seems appropriate, it s coming about two day too late.
This is so absurd. It’s apparent here that the critics have no knowledge of logistics. If they did, they would know that the kind of aid they think should have been rolling in two days ago, couldn’t possibly have been able to do so.
As Farris has pointed out, the intensity and direction of this hurricane changed much more quickly than anybody could predict. He’s also right in saying that the storm could have easily shifted westward, thereby destroying any ships that were further west in the Gulf.
As for getting things inside to help, how does anybody possibly expect that everything should have been there hours after the storm passed? What if all this aid was readied to be sent to New Orleans and Mississippi, only to have the storm shift further east and blast Pensacola, FL instead? Besides, it takes some time to mobilize all of this relief and get it going. For crying out loud, did anybody see the traffic snarls when people were evacuating? And that was prior to the storm. Now in the aftermath, you have flooding, downed power lines, closed off roads, roads riddled with fallen trees and other debris. It’s a mess. So please, stop pretending that somebody can say, “Abracadabra!!” and make aid appear at a moment’s notice.
I live in Florida, and had to deal with the hurricanes last year. The damage suffered in the state wasn’t anywhere near what we’re seeing in NO, Miss and Alabama and yet it took a few days before things got rolling. My guess is, few if any of you have seen up close what a hurricane can do and how it’s not so easy to just get the help rolling in.
You people are not thinking rationally and the whole Natl Guard trope is further proof, especially when the National Guard themselves have said that despite delpoyments to Iraq and Afghanistan, there are enough to handle rescue efforts. More than 2/3 of Louisiana’s Natl Guard troops are in the state, so this whole tired argument of trying to link this to Iraq is pretty pathetic.
It would be nice to see if any of the “We Hate Chimpy McHitlerBurton” club could come up with anything constructive to say, instead of using a natural disaster to score some cheap political points.
Maybe the question should be, “What would a real president, a real leader do?”
I know right wing nut bags love this guy, but why? He has screwed up the economy for the average person, we are so deep in debt we cant pay for a sea wall for New ORleans, our National Guard is over chasing people in the Middle East….the list of his failures are long and pathetic.
He is a great political animal, but he is a failure at administration. He is the selected and elected leader…why can he not lead?
I had a business partner that was one of the greatest guys you ever met…no one who met him had a bad thing to say about him. Except he was incapable at his job…he was a screw up…he tried hard, everybody still liked him, but he was a factor in my business going katrina.
Everybody likes George, but he is a screw up and he is a negative factor in
nearly every aspect of American domestic and foreign policy. Part of it is he unwillingness to be pragmatic…to try things that work instead of sticking tightly to a political philosphy designed to galvanize his base.
ANd for the conservative commentators for this blog…shut up…we already know what you will say…
A visit… no that wouldn’t help much - however, taking affirmitave actions prior to the disaster - pre positioning aid, showing concern and interest in the plights of the victims, rather than eating cake, receiving guitars, and making really bad comparisons between the situation in Iraq and WWII… these are all things the President could’ve/should’ve done.
It was this administration that has been shortchanging and diverting funds from the engineering efforts to shore up NOLA and the whole delta area. It was this administration who has significantly weakened and hampered FEMA’s ability to perform it’s task.
So - yes, we should all try and put aside the usual partisan bickering and help in any ways we can. But that does not mean we should not hold accountable our public officials - those ostensibly sworn to look out for us and protect us.
I agree with jnfr. Bush shouldn’t visit because the logistical hassle of protecting him would detract from relief efforts. I’m more bothered by the failure to have ships waiting in the western Gulf - off the Texas coast, for example, where the storm never threatened - so they could go in and shore up the levees immediately. To hear Chertoff, and now Bush on Good Morning America, say that nobody predicted the levees would break is just unconscionable. The media blathered on about it for days and FEMA studied it for years. That’s the real failure of leadership. Not Bush’s lackluster speech.
Oh… Farris:
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313
Story is not bogus… you know it, why are you so devoutly defending the indefensible? Get over it…
Here’s another question that’s been nagging me - looking at FEMA and DHS responses to this clearly telegraphed disaster - I can only shudder in fear when I imagine what it might be like if this were a terrorist attack.
Both cases you have disruption of the infrastructure, economy, refugees… and so far I’m not left with a warm fuzzy feeling that 4 years after september 11, 2001 this administration is any better prepared to deal with catastrophic events.
Story is not bogus& you know it, why are you so devoutly defending the indefensible? Get over it&
So the ’story’ is not bogus, but the ‘facts’ in this story are stretched like a rubber band.
Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana … on SATURDAY.
Actually, I was the one that used the word “bogus”, and I think it’s apt given that the implication (If Bush hadn’t cut funding, the disaster wouldn’t have happened or be as bad) is almost entirely without merit.
I’ll call shenanigans on that. Where is this “lame response to a previous tropical storm”?
They WERE. I WITNESSED them. It’s just that you can’t ferry in a fleet of cherry picker trucks if the bridges are impassable. You can’t airlift supplies if the airport is underwater. And you can’t set up food distribution tents if everything is under water and all the recipients are trapped in their attics awaiting Coast Guard Helicopters to resuce them.
If I can offer some advice, make sure you’ve got a place lined up to stay before you leave. Hotels are packed and shelters are overflowing. Also, it would help to bring your own food & water, because finding these items, while not impossible, is most certainly difficult.
JC - “Joe Schmoe, the Bush cut levee funding story is bogus” - was what you originally said - now, you’re changing your story. Fine - go and read the OPM and GAO report on funding cuts, then come back and show me how the facts have been stretched.
Farris - The Bush admin declared a state of emergency for LA… but it had nothing to do with Katrina, it was their final - late/lame response to a previous Tropical Storm… regardless of what FAUX News says.
And with the “State of Emergency” in place… why weren’t more resources prepositioned… why weren’t logistics for airlifting in supplies in place… why did the president wait so long to gather his team(s) together to begin planning how to address the situation?
You’ve both run out of steam on this one - let it go. Go donate time, money, physical labor - I’ll be heading down next week.
But Farris, your implication is that cutting funds for New Orleans’s levies is okay. That’s idiocy. Who’s made up their mind about this issue? You have. I’ve gone out of my way to say I don’t know definitively how much responsibility Bush’s levy cuts bear for this catastrophe — it may well be none. Yet you’re presuming that even raising the question is bogus, which really goes to show how lockstep you cons are when it comes to making excuses for that rich kid president of ours.
JC - be real, regardless of the final path of the storm… it was known that it would have devasting consequences for the entire region - and yes, preparations could’ve been underway to handle them.
Having worked w/ FEMA, Red Cross and DoD in a variety of man-made and natural disaster recovery efforts, I have experienced the devastation… and have also seen the damage done by poor planning and execution prior to and after the event.
SF and JC -
Why try to reason with these dingdongs? Oliver and his ilk here have no concept of weather changes, logisitics, hurricane patterns, recovery efforts, WHATEVER.
This is just the same old tired nonsense. All these Monday-morning QB’s, the “coulda, woulda, shoulda” know-it-alls have all the answers and are only trying to score some cheap political points.
Rainlion’s statement here tells you everything you need to know about these people: “however, taking affirmitave actions prior to the disaster - pre positioning aid, showing concern and interest in the plights of the victims…”
Can you show us what “victims” there were “prior to the disaster”? Can you possibly be more uninformed?
I lifted all this from talkingpoints. From the Chicago Tribune article: the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers requested $27 million for this fiscal year to pay for hurricane-protection projects around Lake Pontchartrain. The Bush administration countered with $3.9 million, and Congress eventually provided $5.7 million.
Where are you seeing specific levies being earmarked, Farris? And for which year?
“I’m not saying it wouldn’t still be flooded, but I do feel that if it had been totally funded, there would be less flooding than you have,” said Michael Parker, a former Republican Mississippi congressman who headed the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers from October 2001 until March 2002
Bogus is a strong word, Farris. I don t know that Bush s levy cuts definitely led to New Orleans getting flooded, but I do know that they didn t help. And pointing that out is not a partisan issue, just a pro-New Orleans one. And I doubt that turning this into another conservative rant against the liberal media agitators is going to help the president.
But see, Quaker, the storm in the drill was named PAM. THIS storm was named KATRINA. So we couldn’t have possibly known what would happen, could we? So why have drills?
“the levees were rated at Cat3-ready and that up to Sunday, it wasn t unreasonable to think that level of protection was enough”
Not according to this article, Farris.
JC - Joe Schmoe, the Bush cut levee funding story is bogus - was what you originally said - now, you re changing your story.
No I didn’t. I concurred that the STORY EXISTS, but it’s got holes bigger than the eye of that hurricane. Why don’t you read the rebuttal?
It is disturbing, but not unexpected, that the right has taken a Make excuses for Bush first position on this disaster.
Umm..no. The fact is, the LEFT, before bodies have even been counted, have already made a natural disaster a political issue. “BUSH IS TO BLAME!! BUSH IS TO BLAME!!!” And you’re saying the right is putting party above country? You’re so full of sheot it’s coming out of your ears.
As for the levees, all the facts gathered reach the conclusion in the piece I linked above:
Was it rational and defensible to shift funding from any source toward defense- and war-related activities in the aftermath of 9/11? Of course. Did that shift leave the levees unready to handle Katrina’s deadly burden? No. The levees were inherently unready: even at maximum proposed funding, their design was only for a Cat3 storm, not the Cat4/5 that Katrina was. It is true that in 2004, proposals were floated to upgrade to a Cat4/5-capable levee system; it is also true that even in an ideal situation, the studies — not the construction! — necessary to assess what that would entail would not be finished before 2008
There is not enough Food, Water, Shelter, Rescue Transportation, Personnel ( health care, necessities distribution, security ) …..
and not only is there not enough …. there is not CLOSE to enough of the above…
As for Disasaster Preparedness….Failure.
One more failure for Bushco.
For those who are interested in learning more about the issue of levy cuts, rather than just dismissing them blindly out of hand, here’s the Times Picayune article from June 8, 2004.
Shifting federal budget erodes protection from levees;
Because of cuts, hurricane risk grows
By Sheila Grissett, East Jefferson bureau
For the first time in 37 years, federal budget cuts have all but stopped major work on the New Orleans area’s east bank hurricane levees, a complex network of concrete walls, metal gates and giant earthen berms that won’t be finished for at least another decade.
“I guess people look around and think there’s a complete system in place, that we’re just out here trying to put icing on the cake,” said Mervin Morehiser, who manages the “Lake Pontchartrain and vicinity” levee project for the Army Corps of Engineers. “And we aren’t saying that the sky is falling, but people should know that this is a work in progress, and there’s more important work yet to do before there is a complete system in place.”
In reality, levee building is a long-term undertaking. Section by section, earth is piled into walls as high as 20 feet to protect land on the east bank of the Mississippi River from water that a slow-moving Category 3 hurricane could shove out of Lake Pontchartrain and Lake Borgne. But the levees gradually settle into southeast Louisiana’s mucky subsoil, and every few years, the corps comes back, section by section, to pile on more dirt in what insiders call a “lift.”
“It has always been part of our long-range plan to raise each section of the levee four or even five times,” said Al Naomi, the corps’ senior project manager. “After that, we think the levee might have stabilized and not need further raisings.”
Time for next lift
It’s time now for the next lifts in a number of places that have sunk 2 to 4 feet from their design elevations. These include in Kenner west of the Pontchartrain Center, Metairie between Causeway Boulevard and Clearview Parkway, Norco and St. Rose in St. Charles Parish, the Bayou Sauvage area of eastern New Orleans, and remote marshland areas of eastern St. Bernard Parish.
The subsidence is expected.
What’s new, said Morehiser and Naomi, is that the agency has run out of money for the next round of lifts. Naomi said this is the first time a lack of money has stopped major corps work on the levees since the project began in 1967.
“I can’t tell you exactly what that could mean this hurricane season if we get a major storm,” Naomi said. “It would depend on the path and speed of the storm, the angle that it hits us.
“But I can tell you that we would be better off if the levees were raised, . . . and I think it’s important and only fair that those people who live behind the levee know the status of these projects.”
Levees on the east bank of New Orleans, as well as some in eastern St. Bernard Parish, are among the area’s oldest and have had several lifts. Corps engineers said the next lift might be the last they need.
But the levees on the east bank of St. Charles and Jefferson parishes are much younger, and most stretches have had only one or two lifts.
“This project isn’t expected to end for another 13 to 15 years,” Morehiser said. “They aren’t really finished levees at this point. We don’t even turn them over to their local sponsors until we consider them stable, which is years from now.”
The levees are designed to handle a storm surge of 11 feet, and every additional foot of levee above that is intended to contain waves that otherwise would top the levee. The height of individual levee segments vary.
“When levees are below grade, as ours are in many spots right now, they’re more vulnerable to waves pouring over them and degrading them,” Naomi said. “We’re not below storm-surge elevation yet, but we will be if we stop raising our levees as they subside.”
Bush budget falls short
The Bush administration’s proposed fiscal 2005 budget includes only $3.9 million for the east bank hurricane project. Congress likely will increase that amount, although last year it bumped up the administration’s $3 million proposal only to $5.5 million.
“I needed $11 million this year, and I got $5.5 million,” Naomi said. “I need $22.5 million next year to do everything that needs doing, and the first $4.5 million of that will go to pay four contractors who couldn’t get paid this year.”
Naomi said the corps already owes four contractors more than $2 million for hurricane protection work they’ve done this year without pay, and he expects the figure to climb to about $4.5 million by Sept. 30, the end of the federal fiscal year.
The challenge now, said emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri in Jefferson Parish and Terry Tullier in New Orleans, is for southeast Louisiana somehow to persuade those who control federal spending that protection from major storms and flooding are matters of homeland security.
“It appears that the money has been moved in the president’s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that’s the price we pay,” Maestri said. “Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.”
Rainlion brings up an important point.
We all knew what happened on 9/11. We’ve had four years to plan and prepare for contingencies–not just to try and prevent attacks but to mitigate the aftermath via emergency preparedness.
What happened, GOP?
How much longer will you carry the water for these incompetents?
Tomy, if Clinton had cut funding for the levees by even $1, the wingnuts would be saying Clinton is genocidal and wants to kill off people in red states.
Again, the right puts party above country. There will be plenty of time to assess why this happened and how we can stop it from happening again.
It is disturbing, but not unexpected, that the right has taken a “Make excuses for Bush first” position on this disaster.
This sounds so like the 9/11 excuse machine- “But the PDB didn’t say WHEN the planes will attack”, “But Bush couldn’t predict that a Cat 5 hurricane actually WOULD happen”. The thing is, you prepare.
There are questions raised on what precautions the Republicans made to help make New Orleans safer. These questions can wait for another time. So can the excuses.
Not at all. My implication is that the levees were rated at Cat3-ready and that up to Sunday, it wasn’t unreasonable to think that level of protection was enough, at least while we had other needs (You know, securing Nuclear reactors, inspecting shipping docks, and all the other litany of items we normally hear about.)
Farris - “at least while we had other needs (You know, securing Nuclear reactors, inspecting shipping docks, and all the other litany of items we normally hear about.)”
There are several glaring problems with this statement… but let’s start with the easy ones: Shipping docks, in fact most Port facilities aren’t safer now - so if all the money went to secure them, then why didn’t it happen?
The fact is funds earmarked for a variety of legitimate activities have been diverted to cover the massive boondoggle that Iraq has become… come on, what else could you call the CPA’s loss of millions, perhaps billions due to poor/no accounting - all this from the “BPA, we know how to run things” administration?!!!
Waiting for a Leader
He said “Our efforts are now focused on three priorities: Our first priority is to save lives…. Our second priority is to sustain lives by ensuring adequate food, water, shelter and medical supplies for survivors and dedicated citizens — dislocate…
Posted yesterday by Knight-Ridder:
Figures Jay C. would cite Lickspittle Central as an authoritative source. The point Lickspittle Central tries to obscure is the levee system wasn’t capable of handling a Cat 3 hit because AWOL George diverted monies from completing the necessary work.
Jay C. also betrays his ignorance of civil engineering; when a design is said to be capable of weathering a Cat 3 hurricane–it means in reality, it probably could withstand a Cat 4 or even 5 under certain circumstances. When you class such engineering designs, there’s always a safety margin over and above the design limits.
“What s new, said Morehiser and Naomi, is that the agency has run out of money for the next round of lifts. Naomi said this is the first time a lack of money has stopped major corps work on the levees since the project began in 1967.”
This is the most telling quote. Whether it was tax cuts for the rich, or the Iraq Struggle, priorities were changed in the past 4 years. Every administration has to decide what is important. This administration thought that Iraq and tax cuts for the rich were important, New Orleans was not. This time it bit them in the ass- oh, not them, the poor people that actually thought their tax dollar was going to Homeland Security.
DO you remember when the army offered to rescue the Iranian hostages? The generals assured president Carter they were ready. They werent. It was a terrible disaster, yet President Carter took full responsibility for it even though the failure of the rescue crews training was not his fault. He had approved it based on the assurances of his subordinates and he could have blamed them, but he didnt.
We now have a president who takes no responsibility for anything….this is the ultimate sign of poor leadership. Whether or not it is his fault, he is in the chair and he is, ultimately, the guy who takes responsibility. A new quote for the president…”THe buck stops..uh..over there somewhere, maybe behind the couch…no, no…I think the dog has it…”
This is an administration that is still running a campaign..everything they do is politically motivated or with, at least, a political end in sight. THey have to accept that they have failed to plan for the future and they have failed to repair mistakes of the past. And, they have to accept political criticism for their mistakes because that is how it works.
LIke many Americans (now more than 55%) I am deeply disappointed in this guy. He must succeed in his job as leader for all of us, any of us, to survive. Even though we may despise him, we still need him to get his act together. We all suffer when he fails. But, it often seems as if he is only interested in the political benefit of his actions to his loyal supporters, not how they affect all of us, as a nation, as a people, as Americans. We need leadership and, although he may be working hard to get it done now, most of us(more than 50%) are pessimistic about his ability.
Planning and criticism, based solely on politics or political motiviation, is suicide for this country.
I see PSU wants to pretend to be an engineer. Fine, let’s embarrass him.
The World Trade Center Towers were said to be able to withstand the impact of a 737, which means they would technically be able to withstand something bigger, say, a 747.
In reality, the WTCs were designed to withstand the impact of a 707. As it was, the towers actually withstood the impact of the 767s quite well. The failure mode in the case of the WTC was enormous amounts of fuel and resulting fires causing structural failure and the eventual collapse of the towers.
For the nitty-gritty details see the FEMA World Trade Center Building Performance Study
So according to Bush ass-lickers like PSU, since the WTC couldn’t withstand the crash, then it was a waste of effort building any strength in the building at all.
Except, then the WTC would have went down in ‘93, and NO would have flooded out years ago.
“There’s always a safety margin above and beyond the design limits.”
Very true, Guy Cabot. The World Trade Center Towers were said to be able to withstand the impact of a 737, which means they would technically be able to withstand something bigger, say, a 747.
Oh, never mind. Guy Cabot, full of shit as usual.
I never said that, dipshit. Learn to read, or go back in your mom’s basement, or do whatever it is you do that allows you to just sit in front of a computer all day, making a fool of yourself.
Why does the truth hate America?
Hey, right wing wing nuts..good news. ..I was just over at National Review on line and they are full of Bush apologists like yourselves…apologizing all over themselves: The levees failed because of Democrats in charge of parish politics…thank god!!…The President is not to blame.
Well we all knew that. It was God who was responsible, although which God has yet to be sorted out for blame. Was it YWH? Or Allah, or Shiva, the destroyer? Or maybe the Buddha in one of his incarnations….
Also, I was shocked, truly shocked, to find that left wingers who piss off the editor of Red State are told they cannot post again if they are mean to Mr. BUsh. Gee, that must really cut down on the number of hits..