FBI Arrests Alleged Terrorist
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Rezwan Ferdaus: Man Charged With Plotting Terrorist Attack Vs. Pentagon, U.S. Capitol
The Department Of Justice announced today that Rezwan Ferdaus of Ashland, Massachusetts has been charged in a plot to attack the Pentagon and US Capitol. Ferdaus reportedly tried to detonate a remote controlled plane filled with C-4 explosives.
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Obama just doesn’t have the courage to lead.
Thank you Bush. Another job well done!
So what happened to the color coded alerts? Bush would have us up to scarlet after this. If he was trying to distract us, that is.
Clearly a distraction from floundering job approval ratings!
Ain’t that right Farris?
‘Nother liberal with high explosives.
Remind me, how many 9/11′s have occurred on Obama’s watch?
Well, Jaim, there was September 11th of 2009, September 11th of 2010, and September 11th of 2011….
OK. How many times have 3,000 American civilians been murdered by a preventable act of terrorism under Obama’s watch?
As Glenn Greenwald tweeted:
We still don’t have the full bodycount on Fast & Furious yet.
We still don’t have the full bodycount on Fast & Furious yet
Do you think it will reach 3K, SF or are you just pissed that yet another terrorist attack was stopped by law enforcement, unlike that of 9/11?
Even if it did, to compare to F&F is to suggest the government invited the terrorists to see if they could pull it off. Don’t water down the very different problems raised by F&F by doing so.
Another example that Mr. Obama is soft on terror –
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15121879
God, why won’t he defend America?
Just in case you were thinking Pres Obama has outdone Pres Bush in this area, check out this Pictograph.
Try as you might, you can’t find anything his Majestyness has done well – except maybe eat soft ice cream while on vacation.
Boo hoo.
That’s a report 1.43 years old Frank, and it proves what, exactly?
And notice how that report is too old to include this?
Only Frank DiSalle could think that less terrorist plots to foil is a bad thing.
We still don’t have the full bodycount on Fast & Furious yet.
Isn’t that a bit hyperbolic? I mean, sure it wasn’t Citizen Kane, but attributing death to it, much less thousands of deaths, is a bit extreme, no?
Frank, your hatred of Obama seems a bit more, shall we say, primordial than simple policy disagreements. It’s as though you hate the existance of Obama, rather than anything he’s actually done. What’s really bugging you?
If leftists had even the slightest clue as to what it would have actually taken to make September 11th, 2001 “preventable” they’d have been calling Bush a fascist in August of 2001 instead of waiting until their anti-war protests in 2003.
As it is, you guys bitch and moan about the after effects (and rightly so), but they are nothing compared to what the administration would have had to have done to stop that plot.
But, I always knew you were whiny children, so I am not surprised in the least bit that you think stopping the attacks would have been simple or even possible with the courts and laws we had in 2001.
And don’t think that I’m agreeing with the courts and laws we have now. I’m just stating that you’re naive to believe that that talking point is relevant.
Thank you for sharing, Phil.
Phil, READING is what it would have actually taken to prevent 9/11. Just one PDB. We all know Bush lacked that fundamental skill.
Sorry, Marco, even according to your side’s basic facts, the PDB was read. By both him and Rice.
So, now that we have brought you to reality, please explain exactly what could have been done in August of 2001 to prevent the attacks. Make them #1 – Constitutional (not that the left gives any more of a shit about it than the right*)(/i), and #2 Something you and those on your side of the aisle wouldn’t bitch about.
I’ll wait. Probably for a long time because no one else I’ve asked has been able to answer that question and just reverts back to hyperbole and verbal abuse.
* Support of Hate Speech laws
Support of the banning of certain firearms based on cosmetic attributes
Support of an executive federal state
Support of a popular election over the electoral college
etc., etc.
Sorry, Marco, even according to your side’s basic facts, the PDB was read. By both him and Rice.
http://moderateleft.com/?p=5224
And it was read by Rice in her office.
So, now that we’ve established that it was read, what, exactly, would you all propose should have been done to prevent the attacks that would have been both Constitutional and wouldn’t have caused you all to run around screaming “fascist”?
So, now that we’ve established that it was read, what, exactly, would you all propose should have been done to prevent the attacks that would have been both Constitutional and wouldn’t have caused you all to run around screaming “fascist”?
LAX bombing plot
Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian citizen living in Montreal, Canada planned to bomb Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on New Year’s Eve 1999/2000. He was arrested at Port Angeles, Washington, the U.S. port of entry, on December 14, 1999. Customs officials then found a cache of explosives that could have produced “a blast forty times greater than that of a devastating car bomb” and four timing devices hidden in the spare tire well in the trunk of the rented car in which he had traveled from Canada.[2][3] He and three other Algerians stood trial for the crime. Ressam began cooperating with investigators in 2001. He was initially sentenced to 22 years in prison, but in February 2010 an appellate court ordered that his sentence be extended.[4]
While in prison, Ressam revealed that al-Qaeda sleeper cells existed within the United States. This information was included in the famous President’s Daily Brief delivered to President George W. Bush on August 6, 2001, entitled Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_millennium_attack_plots
And why was Ressam caught?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ressam
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=ahmed_ressam
That’s what they could’ve done, but of course, Rice reading the memo meant what steps were taken?
And why didn’t Bush/Cheney want no transcripts of their testimony or even to be questioned under oath by the 9/11 Commission?
Thanks for playing, Phil.
You know what’s bugging me, Doctor Zython? It’s that Pres Obama is so cool and groovy. I mean he’s a real hep cat, and I wish I had his flair with chicks. I mean, look at that glamorous doll he’s married to, and all the hip people he hangs around with.
Surely you don’t think there would be anything objectionable to his making “trillion” the new “billion” in government fiscal policy; or in the idea that he is chummy with dictators and disses our allies? Surely you don’t think that I would object to the monstrous waste of money that Obamacare is already becoming, as his political pals all opt out? Surely you don’t think that I would dislike a President who allows every one on earth to take responsibility for his own actions, except himself?
No, Doctor Zython, there must be something wrong with me, if I don’t recognize the charisma, the genius, the character, and the innate wisdom that emanates from His Majestyness, like the sun rising on the ocean!
{ Cue orchestra and chorus }
And notice how that report is too old to include this?
That would be one more dead terrorist, and his wife, right?
You still haven’t explicated why Obama’s latest success in killing a terrorist pisses you off so much, Frank, but thanks for not pretending try this time.
not pretending to try
Zython- “Frank, your hatred of Obama seems a bit more, shall we say, primordial than simple policy disagreements. It’s as though you hate the existance of Obama, rather than anything he’s actually done. What’s really bugging you?”
Frank quoted- “You know what’s bugging me, Doctor Zython? It’s that Pres Obama is so cool and groovy. I mean he’s a real hep cat, and I wish I had his flair with chicks. I mean, look at that glamorous doll he’s married to, and all the hip people he hangs around with.”
Frank translated- “Obama is a blackety-black. No other reason is needed.”
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Also remember that the wing-nuts are mentally challenged. Their thinking is black or white, gray does not exist in their world. Because of their lack of critical thinking skills, they are masters at “transference”. They had unreasonable hate for Clinton, & worshipped the Shrub. When lefties disagreed with Shrub’s policies, they thought we hated Shrub as much as the wing-nuts hated Clinton. They also think that lefties worship Obama same as the wing-nuts worshipped Shrub. The wing-nuts cannot comprehend the way normal people process information.
You know what’s bugging me, Doctor Zython? It’s that Pres Obama is so cool and groovy. I mean he’s a real hep cat, and I wish I had his flair with chicks. I mean, look at that glamorous doll he’s married to, and all the hip people he hangs around with.
If anything you’ve ever said proves that you’re completely out of touch, this is it.
Surely you don’t think there would be anything objectionable to his making “trillion” the new “billion” in government fiscal policy; or in the idea that he is chummy with dictators and disses our allies? Surely you don’t think that I would object to the monstrous waste of money that Obamacare is already becoming, as his political pals all opt out? Surely you don’t think that I would dislike a President who allows every one on earth to take responsibility for his own actions, except himself?
Again, if you really had issues with Obama’s policies, and not who he is; you think you would be able to make criticisms of said policies without making shit up. What dictators was he “chummy” with? What “allies” has he dissed? It’s painfully clear that your scatter-shot attacks on Obama stem from a more personal resentment of the man.
No, Doctor Zython, there must be something wrong with me,
Don’t be silly, Frank. Nothing is ever your fault. You’re not responsible for your past failures and mistakes. No, it’s always the fault of the liburalz. You’d be a multi-billionaire if it weren’t for us!
So, what you’re essentially says, “Avenger” is that it is the fault of Airport Security for letting three small three small groups of brown skinned men through the metal detectors even after they produced box cutters at the security checkpoint.
Am I getting that right?
Not detaining them for this seems to be a tad bit below the office of the Chief Executive.
In 1997 I was working in a book warehouse, where a box cutter was an essential tool. One afternoon I got off work and went to pick a friend up at the airport. As I made my way through security to get into the terminal (remember when you could meet a friend at the terminal, “Avenger”?) I emptied my pockets, box cutter and all, into the little plastic tray. The security person took the box cutter out, stated that I was not allowed to take this into the terminal. I didn’t object, let him toss it into the bin and made my way to my friend’s arrival gate.
Why didn’t this happen on the morning in question, four years later? Are you going to blame BushandRiceCo. for there different sets of “security professionals” inability to follow basic procedures?
So, once again, we find a non-viable solution from the left.
RBDave, that seems pretty much like “black or white thinking” coming from “Avenger”, don’t you think?
Any other suggestions?
So, what you’re essentially says, “Avenger” is that it is the fault of Airport Security for letting three small three small groups of brown skinned men through the metal detectors even after they produced box cutters at the security checkpoint.
Uh, no, that after the 08/06/2001 PDB, nothing was done except for Bush to tell his briefer what I quoted earlier, and Condi Rice read the memo and did what afterwards?
Am I getting that right?
That would be a first for you here, but, sadly, no.
Why didn’t this happen on the morning in question, four years later? Are you going to blame BushandRiceCo. for there different sets of “security professionals” inability to follow basic procedures?
I dunno, you have yet to address what concrete steps Bush and Rice took after the August 06 PDB, but keep dancing around that issue, Phil, you’re getting more persuasive by the minute.
So, once again, we find a non-viable solution from the left
Yes, unlike you rugged individualists who watch Fox News and don’t echo the pablum they spoon-feed their viewers, you know who is to blame, those security folks who let them get on board with the box cutters.
RBDave, that seems pretty much like “black or white thinking” coming from “Avenger”, don’t you think?
Keep trying to work the refs, Phil, it demonstrates what a straight arrow you are.
Any other suggestions?
No, just a diagnosis.
There’s a legend I heard about Napoleon. One of his generals is up for a field marshal’s baton, and after hearing praise heaped upon the candidate, he says “the hell with his qualifications! Is he lucky?”
At first, I thought it was just a kind of joke, but then I thought about it some more. A competent, careful planner who thinks well on his feet and who demands all that he can get from his men, will seem lucky on a battlefield. There are a bunch of random factors on a battlefield, but a person who’s really good will be poised to take advantage of the good random factors, and will be able to ameliorate the effects of the bad ones.
Everyone agrees that it would have taken a lot of luck to catch the 9/11 hijackers. But, a competent commander would have had a lot more opportunities for that luck to take effect.
I’ve seen someone mention that Bush would have required fascistic powers to prevent 9/11, and sure, *he* would have. This is, after all, a man whose excuse for violating FISA was that he couldn’t figure out how to shuffle paper through a government bureaucracy quickly enough. (“Def: Government Bureaucracy. An entity whose primary responsibility is shuffling papers just as quickly as necessary to keep their jobs.”)
But a President Gore, who listened to people like Richard Clarke, and who was a competent administrator, would have had a much better chance of being “lucky”. He wouldn’t have needed fascistic powers. Sure, it’s possible that the 9/11 hijackers would slip through the net he’d cast. But at least he would have cast the net.
Dave and Zython don’t even recognize snark …
The only problem I have with President Obama’s “blackety-black”ness is that he ISN’T BLACK !! He’s a Harvard sown and grown liberal asshole, with all the stupidity, blindness to reality, elitism, and B S that goes with it !!
What dictators was he “chummy” with? What “allies” has he dissed?
1) Chavez
2) Britain, Israel
If you weren’t one of the Obama butt kissers brigade, you might have noticed that.
The only problem I have with President Obama’s “blackety-black”ness is that he ISN’T BLACK !! He’s a Harvard sown and grown liberal asshole, with all the stupidity, blindness to reality, elitism, and B S that goes with it !!
Unlike Bush, who was Yale sown, and not from an elite family with power and money going back generations.
Thanks for clearing that up for us, Frank.
Ah, typical Frank. Blaming your failures on liberals.
The only problem I have with President Obama’s “blackety-black”ness is that he ISN’T BLACK !!
*Looks at a picture of Obama* I’m pretty sure he’s black, dude. Are you saying black people can’t go to Ivy League schools or something?
He’s a Harvard sown and grown liberal asshole, with all the stupidity, blindness to reality, elitism, and B S that goes with it !!
Translation: Unlike Frank, Obama has actually accomplished things in his life.
Israel
Oh noes! He suggested that maybe, just maybe, doing the same thing that hasn’t worked for 60 years isn’t such a hot idea? Teh horrorz!
Zython translated: Zip! Pow! Bang! Zoom!
Unlike Bush,
who was Yale sown, and not from an elite family with power and money going back generations.Thanks for clearing that up for us, D A.
Still fighting reality and not the bottle, Frank?
Can’t stand the truth
Frank, dummy?Why am I not surprised?
D A , you are an ass. There is a big difference between a guy who is down to earth and comfortable with himself – George W Bush, and a pedagogic, condescending, arrogant poseur who affects compassion for the poor and downtrodden while he and he and his wife gambol in the playgrounds of the affluent – President Obama.
But you liberals forgive any all sins when committed by the right sinner…
BTW, you leftie lightweights can all exhale now – Gov Palin has announced she will not be running in 2012.
There is a big difference between a guy who is down to earth and comfortable with himself – George W Bush, and a pedagogic, condescending, arrogant poseur who affects compassion for the poor and downtrodden
“All right, you covered your ass.”
That’s down to earth in your book, I guess.
It’s risible you talk about him being pedagogic, coming from a retired teacher who has demonstrated an astounding lack of knowledge of history, American or otherwise.
while he and he and his wife gambol in the playgrounds of the affluent – President Obama.
Because all the Presidents and their wives before him gamboled in the playgrounds of the middle-class, like Coney Island, Atlantic City, and Virginia Beach, VA.
But you liberals forgive any all sins when committed by the right sinner…
Thank you, Pope Frank the I.
BTW, you leftie lightweights can all exhale now – Gov Palin has announced she will not be running in 2012.
Oh, the numbers weren’t there from the beginning, Frank, only a fool would think she had a chance in 2012
There is a big difference between a guy who is down to earth and comfortable with himself – George W Bush, and a pedagogic, condescending, arrogant poseur
This is exactly what I was talking about. You have this odd hatred of Obama on a personal level, even though he’s clearly done nothing to warrant those remarks (after all, if there were, you would be able to give example). It’s pretty clear that Obama’s perceived “arrogance” comes from the fact that he’s accomplished more in 50 years than you have (or ever will if you refuse to ever admit fault), despite having the deck stacked against him. What’s worse is that he got this far over McCain, another old, embittered white guy with a life marred by failure who thinks the world owes him something. It’s kinda sad, really.
BTW, you leftie lightweights can all exhale now – Gov Palin has announced she will not be running in 2012.
She will go down in history with the likes of Donald Trump, Fred Thompson, and all those other Republicans we liberals were “afraid” of.
Frankie in transference mode: “There is a big difference between a guy who is down to earth and comfortable with himself – George W Bush, and a pedagogic, condescending, arrogant poseur”
Reality – There is a big difference between a guy who is down to earth and comfortable with himself, Obama, and a pedagogic, condescending, arrogant poseur George II
A guy whose response to an urgent warning about 9/11 is “okay, you’ve covered your ass” and who starts hideously expensive wars with false claims, with those wars responsible for the deaths of potentially hundreds of thousands of innocent people, should not be “comfortable with himself”. He should be deeply and horribly ashamed. Even if he wasn’t a criminal for ordering the violation of FISA and ordering torture, his performance of official duties were so pathetic that they should have left him deeply uncomfortable. To be comfortable after such colossal blunders shows he just doesn’t understand the stakes.
I do get why you hate Obama; he’s smart, effective, and knows it, and OMG, being President and a best selling author comes with some nice perks, how awful that someone you hate so much gets to be well-to-do.
To be comfortable after such colossal blunders shows he just doesn’t understand the stakes.
It’s no problem being comfortable with yourself if you’re a moronic psychopath/sociopath!