James Lee: Hostage Situation At Discovery Building In Silver Spring, MD
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UPDATE: Montgomery County Police report that the gunman has been shot, the devices attached to him went off. There were 3 hostages, all safe. They are looking for more devices in the building to deactivate.
UPDATE: Reports are now that the gunman is dead.
James Lee photo via Flickr (via Silver Spring Singular)
Multiple outlets (Washington Post, TBD) are reporting that an armed gunman has taken a hostage at the Discovery Channel headquarters building in downtown Silver Spring,MD. This happens to be the area I live in. Insane.
UPDATE: For those who instantly think he’s a wacko-liberal, from his manifesto: ” Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it.” In other words, the guy is nuts.
UPDATE: This is apparently a picture of James Lee, the hostage taker.
Here’s another picture, from The Awl:
Apparently he’s got a website that demands “stop all human birthing”.
UPDATE: Here’s allegedly the guy’s manifesto, as found at the site SaveThePlanetProtest.com, reads like nutty ecoterror stuff.
The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:
1. The Discovery Channel and it’s affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn’s “My Ishmael” pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other’s inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!
2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.
3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!
4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn’t, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??
5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)
6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don’t build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!
7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people’s brains until they get it!!
8. Saving the Planet means saving what’s left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You’re the media, you can reach enough people. It’s your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!
9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.
10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!
11. You’re also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.
Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what’s left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.
For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human’s lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!
It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It’s like a couple are having 30 babies even though it’s just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!
Also, war must be halted. Not because it’s morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!
The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.
Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.
The humans? The planet does not need humans.
You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!
I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.
These are the demands and sayings of Lee.
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William, wouldn’t you be shocked (SHOCKED!) if it turned out that Fox News created violent bigots? That’s never happened. Fox News is all about loving your fellow American, isn’t it?
Now my comment makes no sense. Who’s William?
Bonnie, your assessment of the efficacy of the Genesis device has no foundation in the world of ecumenical physics.
[posted to make Vanessa look good.]
It’s the Shark Anti-Defamation League again. Those radicals and their pro-biting and mutilation agenda are going to be the downfall of us all if we let them get a foothold in our culture.
http://savetheplanetprotest.com/ His demands
“Now my comment makes no sense. Who’s William?”
Probably the violent bigot who was around years before Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, or televisions.
Wow, radical environmentalist. Didn’t see that coming eh Oliver?
wow, william totally can see in oliver’s brain. what do you guys think? telepathy? midichlorians? or maybe he’s one of them magical muslims who steals people’s thoughts.
i’m going with magical muslim — wi al-liam, stay out of our minds, please, you psychic terrorist!!!
Conservative plant.
Wow, radical environmentalist. Didn’t see that coming eh Oliver?
Radical environmentalists have a pretty long track record of crazy. That said, unlike the con fringe getting egged on by con leaders, they don’t get encouragement from liberal mainstream.
Looks like we can blame Al Gore for this one:
Lee said he then felt an ‘‘awakening,” watched former Vice President Al Gore’s documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth,” and decided he had been doing too little to protect the environment.
He also mentions ‘anchor babies’ in his manifesto, william…that’s an issue of the right. I think both sides should probably avoid classifying this guy as anything other than crazy. Period.
Outrageous!! I have never heard something so ridiculous. You have to be insane to come up with such nonsense.
If AL Gore used eliminationist rhetoric to describe those responsible for climate change, you might have a point.
Exactly William, after all, Al Gore uses this language all the time.
This man does not embody liberal nor conservative values because neither employs violence as a solution to any problem. This man is clearly crazy and crazy is non-partisan.
Amen, Bill.
Although … this does sound like it’s directed towards FOX –
“The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.”
This guy either is crazy or he may be right but going to this is wild!!!! Save the world haha
The dude is fucking wacko, can we at least all agree on that?
Wacko does not discriminate. Wacko knows no party boundaries.
Wacko is just wacko. There are wackos on the left, on the right, in the middle, under the stairs, all over.
Taking hostages at gunpoint, regardless of the reason, is wacko.
For once can people stop with the shit flinging over why this loser is the way he is and all the goddamn finger pointing?
Wacko works for me
Is the Discovery Channel Hostage nut the philosophical descendant of Ted (Unabomber) Kaczynski? After looking over the Wikiepedia synopsis of “My Ishmael” ( http://bit.ly/asb3zG ) author Daniel Quinn seems to be. They all would like the human race to either disappear or become so primitive that it would be the same thing.
Just got done reading his rant…good god, way more wacko than I imagined.
Shades of Unabomber style ‘man is the beast’ thinking.
All this says to me is this guy, in addition to being extremely fucking bonkers, is just another pathetic failed male who never mated successfully with a female.
Just like that asshole who shot up V-Tech a few years ago.
Why is it that while reading his manifesto I keep hearing Cypher from the Matrix saying: He’s gonna pop.
The guy is clearly suffering from information overload, and a bot of the crazies.
For once can people stop with the shit flinging over why this loser is the way he is and all the goddamn finger pointing?
Where’s the fun in that?
Where’s the fun in Any this haha this guy might have a point to prove but dint mean he is doin it the right way but he deff figured out how to get his word out fast
This man does not embody liberal nor conservative values because neither employs violence as a solution to any problem
Unless you count pre-emptive military strikes and capital punishment as violent. Then one side has the edge.
I think he’s a Canadian!!
This guy is in Ted Kaczinski territory… you know, severe psychological/neurological disease. Knows just enough to write about the crazy connections he makes between ideas. Makes his dangerous because he doesn’t have an interior editor for either his words or actions.
JAMES LEE HAS HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF GLENN BECK — jr
“Knows just enough to write about the crazy connections he makes between ideas. Makes his dangerous because he doesn’t have an interior editor for either his words or actions.”
He needs a chalk board to help clarify the muddle.
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/01/discovery-terrorist-immigration/
Told ya Oliver.
Media Matters For America tweeted this statement:
“Discovery Channel hostage-taker is the perpetrator of a crime-not liberal, conservative or a chance to score points”
I’m sure Oliver and the rest of his ilk will remember this statement of theirs the next time any nut does something crazy who happened to have watched Fox News or attended a Tea Party rally. My bet is that the doublethink will kick in doubleplusgood.
Lee and Beck – epistemic twins
Again william, when prominant liberals and Democrats start using eliminationist rhetoric to demonize people they disagree with, you might have a point.
Al Gore is fat. James Lee was fat.
Connect the dots, people.
I would be perfectly willing to tag this guy as an isolated nut case, if the next time some nutball blows up an abortion clinic, you don’t call him a “right winger” before you know anything about him.
Deal?
Your bargain implies that Mr. Lee was a leftist?
Again william, when prominant liberals and Democrats start using eliminationist rhetoric to demonize people they disagree with, you might have a point.
This.
I would be perfectly willing to tag this guy as an isolated nut case, if the next time some nutball blows up an abortion clinic, you don’t call him a “right winger” before you know anything about him. Deal?
And if we don’t, then you’re just going to ignore reality in this case and “tag this guy” as a wackaloon liberal? How very diplomatic of you. Oh wait, did I say diplomatic? I meant “douchey”. And that’s not even a word!
When we pretty well know that folks who blow up abortion clinics are “independents.”
wait — this guy was a leftist? what about the anchor baby thing? this guy’s a wash at best.
people who blow up abortion clinics are insane. they believe in invisible superheros in outerspace.
This is some of the most amazing backwards tapdancing I have ever witnessed! Bravo, everyone.
Yes Hmm, because liberals are always going on about how the Discovery Channel doesn’t represent real american values, is possibly treasonous or a terrorist-recruiting front and somebody needs to do something about that, like a 2nd AMendment solution perhaps.
Frank Deodorant Spray, the unfortunate fact is that 100% of all abortion clinic bombings have been perpetrated by right-wing nut jobs, so you’re asking for a denial of reality as a concession and bargaining point.
Oh, that’s right, you’re Catholic, aren’t you, now it all makes sense.
First of all D A , your anti-Catholic bigotry is showing . You are a vapid POS. FOAD.
I implied nothing about the perpetrator. You all were howling about the fact that being left wing has nothing to do with his particular politically tainted psychosis.
I agree… Now I ask that when all you know about an abortion clinic bomber is that he has bombed a clinic, that you not call him a “right winger” until you know he feels about say Iraq, fiscal policy, taxes and gay marriage.
Perhaps Frank, you can provide us with an example of an abortion clinic bomber or doctor murderer who doesn’t also display a broad range of opinions generally associated with the right-wing?
You want to call this guy an environmental wacko? Be my guest. I think that would be a fair judgment. But that’s because he’s an environmentalist and a wacko, not a wacko because he’s an environmentalist.
Frank, I think you’re wrong on both counts. This guy is a left-winger on this particular issue, just as abortion clinic bombers are right-wingers on that particular issue. That they are extreme outliers on the spectrum doesn’t change that. He’s a leftist and abortion clinic bombers are right-wingers in the same sense that al-qaeda are Muslim.
However: If you think liberal news outlets have stirred up the extreme outliers to the degree that their conservative counterparts have done, you’re fooling yourself.
Didn’t blow up a Federal building though. Republicans own that one.
First of all D A , your anti-Catholic bigotry is showing . You are a vapid POS. FOAD.
Yes, well anyone who knows anything would know that not all violence perpetrated against abortion clinics had anything to do with Catholic opposition to abortion except on the individual level.
Obviously, you are not in the aforementioned category, so STFUASTFD!
Do you think the Protestants who have engaged in violence against abortion clinics/providers get a pass from me because of my ‘anti-Catholic” attitude?
I implied nothing about the perpetrator. You all were howling about the fact that being left wing has nothing to do with his particular politically tainted psychosis.
Because Al Gore and the like didn’t talk shit about the Discovery channel like Beck did about the Tides Foundation that apparently set off an ex-con in Northern CA more than a month ago, and you don’t have left-wing types howling about ‘anchor babies’ which doesn’t make him a right-wing type worried either.
You’re smarter than this Frank, you can do better if your persecutor complex towards everyone left of Attila the Hun wasn’t in the way.
Dark Avenger: You’re smarter than this Frank
And Dark Avenger makes a reality bending statement on par with one of Frank’s own.
Sean, I agree with you.
Knuckle-dragging right wingers are blaming this guy on Darwin. The formidable PZ Myers takes out the garbage from his hospital bed.
Again william, when prominant liberals and Democrats start using eliminationist rhetoric to demonize people they disagree with, you might have a point.”
Deval Patrick: “This is a free country. I wish it weren’t”
Kathleen Sebelius: “We have a lot of reeducation to do”
Thomas Friedman: “Let’s be China for a Day and get rid of Democracy”
Michael Moore: “Hurricane Gustav is proof that there is a God in Heaven”
Bill Clinton: “Every time you vote Republican, another black church burns”
Al Gore: “Every day they release squads of digital brownshirts”
Ed Schultz: “Republicans want to see you dead and like it when you get cancer”
Alan Grayson: “Republicans want you to die quickly”
Barack H. Obama: “If they bring a knife to a fight, we’ll bring a gun.”
Barack H. Obama: “Punch back twice as hard”
Barack H. Obama: “Bitter working class voters cling to guns and religion.”
Barack H. Obama: “I don’t want to hear any of their ideas.”
“blaming this guy on Darwin.”
Jesus, christ. Fucking Darwin. 2010, and we’re still having the discussion about Darwin. 150 years of successful application of descent with modification under natural selective pressures as the uniting idea in biology and medicine, and we’re still worried about how the idea is going to make us all evil? Are we fucking cave people? With superstition as the most obvious, high-profie justification of violence in the world for 4000 of the last 4000 years, we’re worried about fucking *finches*?
SaveFarris: “Context? What’s context?”
If you had one of the above or a liberal commentator talk about “lock and load”, “remind them of our Second Amendment” or talk about possible secession from the Union, then we’d have something to talk about.
Unlike Frank, you’re working at full capacity SF, so I’m sorry I can’t honestly say “You can do better” as I did with Frank.
Your record here is unbroken, keep up the good work.
SF, I’m not sure whether you got the exercise — it was to find quotes about how the left has called its opponents unfit for citizenry — that’s eliminationist — or calls to violence. Sure, there’s the knife fight one, but that’s about as close as you get and honestly, that’s not real close.
Like seriously: “punch back twice as hard”? That’s in your top 10? Punching? Really? Punching?
I will give you this: I’m having a hard time remembering a time that a republican called for punching the federal government. Really can’t think of many of those.
When I see that that’s the best that the right can offer in the way of argument, it makes me proud to be on the other side. Keep posting, SaveFarris!
I love how this jackass referred to Darwin while calling for the eradication of his own species. Maybe he just skimmed?
I won’t hold my breath on you hypocrites blaming this on Al Gore and his rhetoric.
But if it was a right-winger…..hey, all Beck’s fault.
hnice: and we’re still worried about how the idea is going to make us all evil? Are we fucking cave people?
From the link Wilbur posted:
So because some people who do terrible things who draw some inspiration from their (incorrect) understanding of Darwin, we should ignore and dismiss a confirmed fact?
That’s like saying “Hitler believed in the inherent genetic superiority of the Aryan race and did terrible things, so we should deny that genes determine our characteristics”.
Why is it whenever william shows up, an oil rig somewhere explodes?
Fuck that. SF didn’t even supply actual quotes in multiple circumstances.
(Oh, SF? Although, in the vernacular, ” are called quotes, they’re actually quotation marks – so supplying them isn’t supplying “quotes”. You have to actually repeat what the person said – word for word. Otherwise, it’s not a quote.)
“You have to actually repeat what the person said”
Why should I? I provided more examples of Leftists using “eliminationist rhethoric” and “demonizing those who disagree with them” in that post than you, Quaker, DA, Ol’Froth, and Oliver have provided Right examples in 6 years.
“Accusations” and “examples” aren’t the same words. They don’t even *look* that similar.
HTH. HAND.
“Why should I?”
Aaaaaaand, in three words, Farris does more to sum up, completely and succinctly, his commitment to reality than any of us have been able to do in a long, long time.
Nicely done, sir.
SF, for your education, here are some examples of eliminationist rhetoric:
“I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus — living fossils — so we will never forget what these people stood for.” — Rush Limbaugh
“I would have no problem with [New York Times editor Bill Keller] being sent to the gas chamber.” — Melanie Morgan
“”[T]he day will come when unpleasant things are going to happen to a bunch of stupid liberals and it’s going to be very amusing to watch.” — Lee Rogers
“And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. We’re going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.” — Bill O’Reilly
“Howard Dean should be arrested and hung for treason or put in a hole until the end of the Iraq war!”– Michael Reagan
“Let’s start with the following New York Times reporters and editors: Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger Jr. , Bill Keller, Eric Lichtblau, and James Risen. Do you have an idea where they live? Go hunt them down and do America a favor. Get their photo, street address, where their kids go to school, anything you can dig up, and send it to the link above. This is your chance to be famous — grab for the golden ring.” — “The Political Insight”
Ann Coulter
“Some liberals have become even too crazy for Texas to execute, which is a damn shame. They’re always saying — we’re oppressed, we’re oppressed so let’s do it. Let’s oppress them.” — Ann Coulter
“We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee. … That’s just a joke, for you in the media.” — Ann Coulter
LINDA VESTER (host): You say you’d rather not talk to liberals at all?
COULTER: I think a baseball bat is the most effective way these days.
“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”
“We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too.”
“They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America’s self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant. Fifty years of treason hasn’t slowed them down.”
“Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don’t hate America like liberals do. They don’t have the energy. If they had that much energy, they’d have indoor plumbing by now.”
“In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about whether he [Clinton] ‘did it,’ even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate.”
See the difference? Your examples are examples of people saying “mean” things about Republicans. My examples are of exhortations for “right thinking” people” to attack or kill “wrong thinking” people.
That’s what makes one group of quotations political polemics, and the other group eliminationist.
Ol’Froth:
He’s not even properly quoting people saying mean things. When Obama talked about people “cling”ing, he was referring to how they vote. They haven’t believed that their vote could get them any economic relief, so they grab other things, like gun rights, like religion, like being mad at immigrants or gay folks, to decide how to vote.
That’s not exactly a nice thing to say – but show me the Republicans who *aren’t* using those issues in rural areas! He’s describing how people campaign to win in those areas, and he’s saying his intention is to convince them that, this time, voting *can* make a real difference in actual, bread and butter issues.
Republican leadership knows that (just like they know that Al Gore never claimed to have “invented” the internet), but they’re happy to see their stooges repeat the lie.
This is the thing about SF – he often skirts the lie carefully, which suggests he *knows* it’s a lie, that he knows it’s pure propaganda.
And then, other times, he acts like a True Believer – the Right Wing equivalent of the person who thinks that pro wrestling is all real.