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Conservative Abigail Thernstrom Destroys The Conservative BS On New Black Panthers

10:51 am EST July 27th, 2010 | Conservative | 69 Comments

Thernstrom sits on the Civil Rights Commission and is no fan of the left.

McCarthy is thrown into a tizzy by my mild observations. Apparently, I am to be excoriated for feeling that the allegations of ‘armed’ and jackboot-clad Panthers invoke inappropriate images of Kristallnacht. His fulminations on this question quickly elide from the Panthers’ attire to their comments; he quotes them as saying things like ‘you’re about to be ruled by the black man,’ ‘kill some crackers,’ and ‘kill some of their babies.’ But who said what to whom — and when? 

The first statement was indeed made at the polling place, but it was directed to Bartle Bull, a Republican poll-watcher, not a voter. Bull later claimed that the conduct he witnessed that day in Philadelphia was ‘the most blatant form of voter intimidation’ that he had encountered in his life, dating back to elections in Mississippi in the 1960s.

McCarthy and Bull can’t be serious. In Mississippi, before the 1965 Voting Rights Act was passed, fewer than 7 percent of eligible black voters had been allowed to register to vote. They were disfranchised by fraudulent literacy tests, widespread (and often lethal) violence, and intimidation. Whites in the Jim Crow South did not need to stand around polling places looking menacing to keep blacks at home on voting day: Would-be black voters knew they were putting their lives, their homes, and their jobs on the line if they approached a polling booth. 

The actions of two Black Panthers in one Philadelphia precinct in 2008 were not remotely equivalent to the effort to keep blacks from exercising their democratic rights throughout the South; the equation is breathtakingly ignorant. The Panthers are a tiny fringe group — a handful of racist nuts. The KKK was a serious criminal conspiracy that terrorized millions of black Americans, and only massive intervention by the federal government could stamp it out. No competent historian would possibly endorse McCarthy and Bull’s contention that the actions of two Panthers in one little corner of Philadelphia were more blatant than what went on in Mississippi in the 1960s. If this ludicrous and poisonous idea gains acceptance in conservative circles, it will do more damage to American race relations than anything the Panthers could possibly do.

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69 Responses to “Conservative Abigail Thernstrom Destroys The Conservative BS On New Black Panthers”

  1. Marco says:

    Oh, there’s a new wingnut outrage in town. The President isn’t appearing at the boy scout jamboree.

    The horrors!!!!

  2. jr says:

    “White people are in danger!”-Megyn Kelly

  3. Repack Rider says:

    Why a conservative would want to sit on the Civil Rights Commission escapes me. The right is no fan of Civil Rights, with the exception of the edited version of the Second Amendment, which has had the “well regulated” part stricken.

  4. Ol'Froth says:

    SHe’s a Bush appointee.

  5. Quaker in a Basement says:

    But…but…that one guy had a stiiiiiiick!! And he said “cracker”!

  6. fafaroo says:

    Clearly the Tides Foundation has gotten to Thernstrom.

  7. El Cid says:

    Didn’t the Bush Jr. DOJ charge the guy with what civil violations were possible, given that one requirement of voter intimidation cases is that voters have to come forward to claim that they were intimidated?

  8. Jose Hipants says:

    “If this ludicrous and poisonous idea gains acceptance in conservative circles, it will do more damage to American race relations than anything the Panthers could possibly do.”

    Of course, doing damage to race relations *is* the whole idea.

  9. sqeptiq says:

    Cue up cons bitching and yelling that Thernstrom’s a RINO or a CINO.

  10. Dennis says:

    Cue up cons bitching and yelling that Thernstrom’s a RINO or a CINO.

    She’s a conservative who has a different opinion about how big this case should be and whether or not it could have been prosecuted further. She didn’t destroy the argument put forth by those she disagrees with, and she didn’t seek to destroy that argument, she just stated her case and described why she respectfully disagrees with someone else. And she admitted that she was probably wrong to have said previously that the legal standards that must be met to convict anyone of voter intimidation are very high. Not easy, she said, but also not impossibly high.

    Evidently, the standards here for which to declare that someone destroyed the other side’s argument are not very high, either.

    She also didn’t say that there was no bias within the DOJ to not wanting anything to do with prosecuting cases where whites are the victims of voter intimidation by blacks. She was dismayed that Coates is not able to testify, and she restated her view that the DOJ decision in the NBPP may very well have been wrong.

    No one’s argument was destroyed.

    At all.

  11. longdeshizi says:

    The argument that the doings of some powerless fringe group with sticks in front of a black polling station is the equivalent of the acts of a nationwide terrorist group responsible for murder, assault, arson, etc— this argument was destroyed.

  12. Marco says:

    She also didn’t say that there was no bias within the DOJ to not wanting anything to do with prosecuting cases where whites are the victims of voter intimidation by blacks. – Dennis

    That’s because you and your master Andy are making that up. And other conservative douche bags, of course.

  13. The Dark Avenger says:

    Not really, Denise the Dense, but then you’ve been asking for a bitch-slap for a while, haven’t you?

    DOJ’s assistant attorney general for civil rights, Thomas Perez, testified before the Commission that DOJ was concerned that it could not meet the standard of proof required for these cases. That is a debatable proposition — but that was exactly Perez’s point: This is a judgment call that falls within DOJ’s discretion, not per se evidence of a policy of racial double standards.

  14. Dennis says:

    Marco, don’t be an idiot. She’s not saying there isn’t that bias. She’s saying this isn’t the case that proves it. She’s said twice now that she’s no fan of Holder and repeated that currently that his DOJ is working to gerrymander voting districts along racial lines, which she is appalled by; for which she feels deserves far more attention than this case of a couple of racist thugs looking for attention. Andy McCarthy didn’t make that up, either. And if she thought there was nothing to the charges of Adams and a few others on the VRC, she wouldn’t have expressed remorse that Mr. Coates was not allowed to testify, which she knows from Adams is that he feels much like he does.

    You’re better than just being no more than a lemming lackey here, Marco.

    You see, you’ll follow the group think here and not stray one inch to the right of the path chosen for you.

    If you accept Ms. Thergstrom’s contention, then you should also accept her respectful sentiment that

    ‘Adams is actually a friend of mine whom I respect for his expertise in this field’.

    Quite the opposite is what Oliver and Media Matters have told you to think in this case regarding J. Christian Adams. Per Oliver’s and his employer’s dictum, Adams is a conservative and therefore not credible, but Thergstrom is a conservative who respects Adams greatly but disagrees with a few things in this case, but she is highly credible, or something. And you have thought the exact same thoughts as what OW and MMfA have told you to think.

    And you should also accept her beliefs that regarding whether

    “…the Obama DOJ has a policy of offering protections for black voters but not white ones. That issue greatly interests me, and I hope that the Justice Department will send additional representatives who will be willing to discuss the Commission’s old and new concerns.

    She’s simply saying there’s bigger fish to fry and this case if hyped too much unnecessarily could likely have damaging effects on the national discourse on race, so better to leave it be. It’s not a whole lot different than idiots on the Journolist differing in their opinion on whether they should all band together and run with the Trig Truther garbage.

    Actually, it is a lot different. Neither Adams nor Thergstrom are raving loons, but I think you know what I mean.

  15. Marco says:

    Where’s the bias then, Dennis?

    Yeah. Thanks.

  16. mambochicken23 says:

    Just go away, Dennis. You’re tiresome.

  17. Dennis says:

    Where’s the bias then, Dennis?

    Yeah. Thanks.

    Do you think you, Oliver, MMfA and fafaroo have shown no bias in this case, Marco. That you’ve looked at this objectively?

  18. Dennis says:

    Just go away, Dennis. You’re tiresome.

    You had all day to read all the posts that weren’t posted today, mambo. If you prefer no posts to posts that you read but express regret for having read them, just scroll down to another topic or just turn off your computer. And you said you were never going to address me again. You have the self-control of a 3 month old puppy.

    Better yet, mambo, why don’t you think of something intuitive about this case that you think will spur some discussion and post it and see if people want to discuss it. Unless you prefer just blankness.

  19. Marco says:

    Do you think you, Oliver, MMfA and fafaroo have shown no bias in this case, Marco. That you’ve looked at this objectively? -Dennis.

    So you’ve no evidence of bias then. Thanks, Dennis.

  20. Dennis says:

    Where’s the bias then, Dennis?

    Like she said, she’d like to see an investigation that will perhaps show us. And she’d like Coates to be able to testify, too, which would also perhaps show us whether or not there is bias.

    Are you against either one of those two things, Marco?

    I’m gonna guess you are, but you won’t say.

  21. Marco says:

    Just go away, Dennis. You’re tiresome. – mambo

    Yeah, I bagged on a commenter (longhe?) in a previous thread for giving shit over bothering with Dennis, but he/she had a point. Although watching his spiral into depravity was pretty funny until it was embarrassing.

    Now it’s tiresome.

  22. Zython says:

    Do you think you, Oliver, MMfA and fafaroo have shown no bias in this case, Marco. That you’ve looked at this objectively?

    Oliver, MMfA, Marco, and fafaroo are part of the DOJ?

    Seriously, though, that doesn’t prove the DoJ was biased.

  23. Dennis says:

    So you’ve no evidence of bias then. Thanks, Dennis.

    I find Adams to be credible and I’d like to know more. No, I don’t have evidence.

    You don’t have evidence of Tea Partiers at the steps of Congress on the day of the HCR vote shouting the N-word 15 times, either, but that never once stopped you from saying for certain it was true.

    And again, unlike what DA thinks he posted a quote of hers of, Abigail Thergstrom never said there was no bias. Oliver told you that she destroyed Andy McCarthy’s and J. Christian Adams’ argument, and like a good little soldier you are following right along with that line, but you could sit here all night and never be able to display how or where in her article that she ever did or even tried to destroy anyone’s argument.

  24. Marco says:

    I am against allegations of bias from right wingers without evidence, yes. Much like you’re against accepting and pushing any right wing talking point that comes down the pike.

    Oh, wait…

  25. Dennis says:

    Yeah, I bagged on a commenter (longhe?) in a previous thread for giving shit over bothering with Dennis, but he/she had a point.

    longde was giving you and fafaroo shit, too, Marco. Go back and read what he said. You think when you argue on here that you are speaking for the group and that you’re immune from having annoyed anyone, don’t you?

  26. Dennis says:

    Oliver, MMfA, Marco, and fafaroo are part of the DOJ?

    Seriously, though, that doesn’t prove the DoJ was biased.

    I swear to f’ing God, Zython, I don’t think you even know what month this is. I honestly don’t think you would pass the standard Alzheimer’s test questions.

  27. Marco says:

    ongde was giving you and fafaroo shit, too, Marco. Go back and read what he said. You think when you argue on here that you are speaking for the group and that you’re immune from having annoyed anyone, don’t you? – Duhnnis

    To be clear, Duh. I am aware we were given shit for entertaining your bullshit. I think that is clear to everyone but you, Duhnnis.

    See, I am doing it again now.

  28. Zython says:

    I swear to f’ing God, Zython, I don’t think you even know what month this is. I honestly don’t think you would pass the standard Alzheimer’s test questions.

    I got what you’re saying (if they were biased, then it’s possible for the DoJ to be)*.

    I swear to fucking (my mother doesn’t mind if I swear in the internets) God, you are so full of shit you should get tested for botulism.

    *Dennis, how come if I supposedly don’t understand your asinine point, you call me an idiot; but when you don’t understand my point, you call me an idiot again? Hypocrite much?

  29. Dennis says:

    I am against allegations of bias from right wingers without evidence, yes.

    Very noble of you, Marco.

    But I’m curious as to why neither you nor anyone here has ever come out and said anything along the lines of ‘You know, it is kind of odd that none of the 15 shouts of the N-word were captured on tape by any of the news cameras or anyone else there with phone cameras’. I mean, seeing as how you’re so against allegations of bias without evidence and all.

    Oy.

  30. Marco says:

    Do you think you, Tea baggers, Andy Breitbart and Fox News have shown no bias in this case, Duhnnis. That you’ve looked at this objectively?

    Again, Duhnnis, I tend to believe the story of those not yelling homophobic taunts, carrying racist signs or working at racebaiter.com over those who do or have done all the above. You choose not to. That’s fine.

  31. fafaroo says:

    Dennis, don’t you think it’s high time you stopped taking your cues from Andrew Breitbart?

    Here’s Breitbart from April:

    With so many media and citizen cameras at the demonstration, any epithets would have been caught on tape, says Andrew Breitbart. He’s the web entrepreneur who released the video of ACORN workers counseling actors posing as a pimp and prostitute, and has pledged $100,000 to the United Negro College Fund if anyone provides proof of the epithets.

    “It didn’t happen,” said Breitbart, who wasn’t there. “This is 2010. Even a racist is media-savvy enough not to yell the N-word.”

    Yes, please Andrew, let’s have a conversation about race and media savvy…

    Rep. Andre Carson on July 20:

    The incident on March 20th happened as I’ve described. It has been reported by numerous media outlets because it is a fact. Andrew Breitbart has tried everything possible to try and rewrite history related to the events of that day—including citing as proof a video that was shot a full hour after the incident happened.

    http://johnkingusa.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/20/statement-from-rep-andre-carson-to-jkusa/

    The curious thing, Dennis, is that Carson’s eye-witness claim is stronger than anything Adams ever had against Jerry Jackson and the NBPP. All Adams had was hearsay against Jackson. Carson is an eye-witness. Adams and the DOJ never had an eye-witness of Jerry Jackson doing anything.

    So once again, Dennis, you’re taking your cues from Andrew Breitbart. Please just go away, scumbag.

  32. Jaim says:

    Dennis the Cowardly Bitch strikes again. And by that I mean, he tries to prop up a known liar and bigot like Britetbart.

    His kind of people.

  33. Dennis says:

    I think it’s entirely possible that a decision was made that this case was going to be hard to prove so the DOJ thought it didn’t merit continuing further, with no bias. Unlike you, though, I think it is possible that there was bias and that a bias against prosecuting voter intimidation cases of blacks against whites does exist within the DOJ. I also think it’s possible Holder thought it best to let this one go rather than prosecute it because he didn’t anticipate the reaction he got from Adam’s and several other people involved or that it would get this much attention. And that if he did prosecute the Jackson guy and the NBPP he would likely have been under far more scrutiny and second-guessing than he’s getting now.

    Simply put, like Abigail Thergstrom, I’m for finding out more, and letting Christopher Coates speak; and you, Marco, are not.

  34. Dennis says:

    And by that I mean, he tries to prop up a known liar and bigot like Britetbart.– Jaim Galt

    What does Breitbart have to do with the NBPP voter intimidation/DOJ bias case, Jaim?

    Or are you just trying to one-up Zython in the late-to-the-meeting and clueless Hall of Fame sweepstakes?

    Dope.

  35. Marco says:

    Simply put, like Abigail Thergstrom, I’m for finding out more, and letting Christopher Coates speak; and you, Marco, are not. – Duhnnis

    You’re for witch hunting is what you mean. We all know. On the side of race baiters and racists. This we know, too.

  36. Dennis says:

    The curious thing, Dennis, is that Carson’s eye-witness claim is stronger than anything Adams ever had against Jerry Jackson and the NBPP. All Adams had was hearsay against Jackson. Carson is an eye-witness. Adams and the DOJ never had an eye-witness of Jerry Jackson doing anything.

    So once again, Dennis, you’re taking your cues from Andrew Breitbart. Please just go away, scumbag.

    fafaroo, I’m a bystander in the crowd in DC as the Congressmen walk by and I hear someone yelling the N-word. I look to see where it came from. Then he yells it again. And again. And again. Eleven more times he yells it, and not only did I not think to get out my Blackberry and take a video of it, but neither did anyone else. Do you not think that is a bit odd?

    Or maybe I did take out my camera and got audio of just one or two of the fifteen times it was claimed by this eyewitness to history to have occurred, and you think I’m going to just forget about the $100,000 reward I would get for handing it to Breitbart and letting the country have video proof of something that you guys swear happened anyway no matter if there was audio, video or anything besides this guy’s eyewitness account?

    Is that what you think, fafaroo, that either no one will come forward even for $100,000, or that no one even thought to pull out their video cameras at all as a crowd was shouting the horribly racist N-word 15 times?

    Which is it?

  37. Dennis says:

    You’re for witch hunting is what you mean. We all know. On the side of race baiters and racists. This we know, too.

    Why won’t you declare whether you’re for more information or not, Marco? You made up your mind very early on and you haven’t waivered one bit from the position you’ve been told to believe.

    This is the third time Oliver has gone to Abigail Thergstrom’s opinion on the matter, and she has nothing but the highest respect for J. Christian Adams and scorn for Eric Holder. She wants to see more information come out about this case. What you and OW want from Abigail Thergstrom is the parts where she says what you agree with, but you don’t want to discuss the things she agrees with Adams about.

    And you guys are not biased.

  38. Marco says:

    You want more info?

    Racist signs. Check.
    Racist emails. Check.
    Racist leaders/figureheads. Check.
    Racist voicemails. Check.
    Race baiting blogs and cable news network. Check.

    There’s your info. Hard to believe epithets in a screaming crowd weren’t discovered by Andy Breitbart, but the list above is long enough for anyone sane.

    Now enjoy the rest of your evening convincing yourself otherwise.

  39. Dennis says:

    The curious thing, Dennis, is that Carson’s eye-witness claim is stronger than anything Adams ever had against Jerry Jackson and the NBPP. All Adams had was hearsay against Jackson. Carson is an eye-witness. Adams and the DOJ never had an eye-witness of Jerry Jackson doing anything.

    What point are you making, fafaroo? An eyewitness can fabricate, and the fact that no video or audio evidence exists for the claims Carson made is very suspect given how long it would take for someone to shout the N-word 15 times without attracting the kind of attention that would warrant a whole horde of people taking out their camera phones. And Adams never said that what he heard someone say Jackson said was proof of bias in the DOJ for dropping the case or that it was enough evidence to convict him on a voter intimidation felony if only it would have been pursued. He believes the evidence was strong enough, but he never said it was proof. And I never said it was proof.

    So what is so curious about this at all?

    You’re just trying to bloviate. You have nothing.

  40. Dennis says:

    Racist signs. Check.
    Racist emails. Check.
    Racist leaders/figureheads. Check.
    Racist voicemails. Check.
    Race baiting blogs and cable news network. Check.

    Liberal plants posing as racists at Tea Party rallies. Check.
    Think Progress posting signs of liberal plants posing as racists at Tea Party rallies to ‘prove’ Tea Party racism. Check.
    Zython posing as a conservative and writing horribly racist epithets with no one here embarrassed at his daily presence. In short, their approval. Check.
    All-out defense of the horribly racist NBPP by every liberal posting here. Check.
    All-out defense of the horribly racist Reverend Wright by every liberal posting here. Check.
    Shameless use of one-off racist signs at open to the public Tea Party rallies to dishonestly paint the whole movement of millions as all being racist or all being welcoming to racists with open arm. Check.

  41. Fafaroo says:

    Dennis, please just go away. The DOJ dropped the case against Jackson because it didn’t think there was any evidence of him doing anything. All it had was hearsay but you give the benefit of the doubt to Adams.

    Now you have an eye witness to something who is a Congressional representative amd you’re going with Andrew Breitbart that it’s all lies.

    Okey dokey.

    Listen, Dennis. Believe whatever you want. There are death panels, the NAACP is a racist organization, Obama is a Kenyan, Glenn Beck is not crazy, the DOJ hates white people, Andrew Breitbart gives a fuck about the truth.

    Believe all of this and then vote for Palin-Bachmann in 2012. I don’t really give a fuck.

  42. Ol'Froth says:

    Liberal plants posing as racists at Tea Party rallies. Check.

    Amazing that none of those liberal plants were asked to remove themselves and their signs from the non-racist teabagger rally by the non-racist teabagger leaders.

    I’m also amazed that the non-racist teabagging crowd didn’t take audio or video recordings of the liberal plants yelling racist slogans, because the teabaggers are so non-racist.

  43. Marco says:

    Liberal plants posing as racists at Tea Party rallies. Check.- DUHNESS

    Yeah,, the “Rabble Rabble Rabble Healthcare Rabble …” well, kinda know those were fakes. And as any random google search could tell you, those were the only signs. Yup. Just those.

    Think Progress posting signs of liberal plants posing as racists at Tea Party rallies to ‘prove’ Tea Party racism. Check.-DUHNESS

    Oh, the one guy who wore a “new shirt?” The guy the Tea Baggers yelled out of there – but somehow allowed people to sell “Yup, I’m a Racist” t-shirts? The one guy Confederate Yankee didn’t prove shit about.

    Yes, your hero… CONFEDERATE Yankee.

    Zython posing as a conservative and writing horribly racist epithets with no one here embarrassed at his daily presence. In short, their approval. Check. -DUHNESS

    ZOMG ZYTHON!!!!!! Your war with another poster no one cares about. I guess all the Fox Nation comments are made by Zython-like evil liberals?

    All-out defense of the horribly racist NBPP by every liberal posting here. Check. DUHNESS

    Wrong and you know it. No one here is pro Black Panther, just against right wing bullshit fake outrage. You know that.

    All-out defense of the horribly racist Reverend Wright by every liberal posting here. Check. DUHNESS

    Um, that’s the first time I’ve even read your winning 2008 election strategy mentioned here. Wonder why you brought him up?

    Shameless use of one-off racist signs at open to the public Tea Party rallies to dishonestly paint the whole movement of millions as all being racist or all being welcoming to racists with open arm. Check. DUHNESS

    Didn’t we cover your fail on this already? Yeah, we did.

    Seriously, Duhness. You’re not even trying hard anymore. I guess next it was liberals who called Barney Frank a faggot or spit on a congressman.

    Really? Breitbart really has your heart, soul and balls.

    Get real or stop boring us all. Even tea baggers have apologized for the HC protest debacle. Even right wing douche bloggers have called out Andy on his Sherrod bullshit. Hell the topic of this thread is a conservative calling bullshit on YOUR antics.

    You’re delusional. Beyond help, maybe. Maybe Andy will spot you some coin from your corner earnings and get you help. I can’t.

  44. Jaim says:

    So Dennis the Cowardly Bitch, you’re admitting there’s no “there” there re: actual voters who were actually disenfranchised from actually voting?

    Jesus, just shut the fuck up already. Go back to your E-trade account and lose some more of your wife’s money.

  45. Marco says:

    Oh, and I didn’t mention the birthers.

  46. Marco says:

    No, I don’t have evidence.–DUHNNESS

    Pretty much sums it up.

  47. Dennis says:

    So Dennis the Cowardly Bitch, you’re admitting there’s no “there” there re: actual voters who were actually disenfranchised from actually voting?

    Jesus, just shut the fuck up already. Go back to your E-trade account and lose some more of your wife’s money.

    There is nowhere above where I admitted, said or intimated that there was no there, there, Jaim “I left Bush’s America” Galt. For a guy who majored in and taught English at the graduate level, and who now teaches it to kindergartners in Korea, you sure seem to have difficulty comprehending it.

  48. Dennis says:

    Now you have an eye witness to something who is a Congressional representative amd you’re going with Andrew Breitbart that it’s all lies.

    Why are you so afraid to discuss how unusual it is that as mush as everyone on the left has been so keen about showing racism, even to the point of planting your own in the crowd with racist signs as a stategy, that in a supposedly rabid crowd of Tea Partiers at a well filmed and covered gathering for an historic event where someone or some people shouted the N-word 15 times, 15 times, fafaroo, that no one stopped to think about getting it on audio or film.

    You’re afraid of this simple explanation, aren’t you?

  49. Dennis says:

    I’m also amazed that the non-racist teabagging crowd didn’t take audio or video recordings of the liberal plants yelling racist slogans, because the teabaggers are so non-racist.–Ol’ Froth
    - – - – - – -

    Guess what, Ol’Froth, they did. You don’t need to be amazed any longer. Here’s just one example: Tea Party Attendee Confronts ‘Proud Racist’ in Swastika Shirt

    This is who they are, Ol’ Froth.

    This is what they do.

    Ask Zython.

  50. Jaim says:

    “who now teaches it to kindergartners”

    Actually, I’m a faculty member at a Korean university. But thanks for asking, Cowardly Bitch.

    And if you could take Breitbart’s cock out of your mouth for just a minute, you’d realize that heavily editing a video of a black woman admitting she used to harbor racial prejudice but got over it to realize the error of her ways, and who went on to help at least one white farming family not go bankrupt, is indeed pretty much the definition of racism. It’s race-baiting, if you prefer, but still in league with the Republican/Limbaugh/FOX attempt to paint black people as scary and white people as victims.

    Much like taking two crazy black dudes who call themselves “New Black Panthers” and who didn’t prevent anybody from voting and trying to inflate the story to ZOMG SCARY BLACK MEN WANT TO RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER!

    You’re a bigot Dennis, among other things. You’re also stupid. But really, what drives and motivates you above all else is a combination of simple-minded fear and victimhood. You are a poster-child Republican/Teabagger.

    Stay classy.

  51. Jaim says:

    A black woman whose father, by the way, was murdered by a white police officer and against whom charges were never brought in the deep south.

    Hell, she has every right to be a racist IMO. But she’s not, and the NAACP audience never applauded her for it despite what your boyfriend tried to pass off as an obvious lie.

  52. Dennis says:

    And if you could take Breitbart’s cock out of your mouth for just a minute, you’d realize that heavily editing a video of a black woman admitting she used to harbor racial prejudice but got over it to realize the error of her ways, and who went on to help at least one white farming family not go bankrupt, is indeed pretty much the definition of racism. It’s race-baiting, if you prefer, but still in league with the Republican/Limbaugh/FOX attempt to paint black people as scary and white people as victims. Jaim Galt

    Regarding your English comprehension, Jaim, pick out and explain just where it is I admitted there was no there, there. If you can.

    Regarding Breitbart, he didn’t edit the tapes.

    You want better examples of race-baiting?

    Here.

    SHIRLEY SHERROD, FMR. GEORGIA DIRECTOR, RURAL DEVELOPMENT, USDA: I don’t think he’s [Andrew Breitbart] interested in seeing anyone get past it, because I think he’d like to get us stuck back in the times of slavery. That’s where I think he’d like to see all black people end up again. And that’s why –

    Before this videotape surface, she had no clue who Andrew Breitbart even was. Now she’s convinced he wants to take black people back to the time of slavery. She thinks, like you guys to a man here do, that if you criticize Obama, you’re a racist. That’s race-bating, Jaim.

    Or better still:

    Friend of OW Joan Walsh calling Charles Sherrod a “civil rights hero”.

    Charles Sherrod: “We must stop the white man and his Uncle Toms from stealing our elections.” (January 2010)

    This is race-baiting, Jaim.

    Were you not just a bit curious as to why Ms Sherrod wasn’t on any Sunday talk shows this past weekend? Hmm? Just a little bit curious?

    I didn’t think so.

  53. Dennis says:

    Oh, and Jaim, it seems Andrew Breitbart didn’t call for Shirley Sherrod’s resignation. But Tom Vilsack fired her. And the next day knowing just about everything we know about that tape, Vilsack said he was standing by his decision despite seeing the whole tape. This is not curious to you, espcecially given what you know about the White House’s involvement in getting her fired?

    Does this not make the White House and Tom Vilsack dishonest racist bigots? Or Ben Jealous actually having been in the audience at the speech Shirley Sherrod gave and still issuing the sharp rebuke against her and actually saying in public that he got “snookered”.

    Oh my I got snookered!!!

  54. Marco says:

    HA! Yes, Shirley Sherrod is the real racist.

    Fucking delusional.

  55. Dennis says:

    Marco, you’d hardly be forgiving of a white person from the USDA telling a white audience that she once harbored racist feelings toward a black farmer that came to her for help, but then realized later that it wasn’t about race, but it was about helping a poor person. And I didn’t call her a racist, you fucking moron. I said she race-baited, and I gave you a letter=perfect, by the book example of her doing exactly that.

    Do you deny that what she said about someone she doesn’t know and didn’t know before a couple weeks ago, was race-baiting? Do you deny that a blanket statement to the effect of criticism of our president is overt racism?

    Toe the line, Marco. Good soldier. Carry on. It’s much easier on the brain that way. Just keep your mouth shut about Obama’s foot-dragging on DOMA and DODT, tell. Best not to make any waves.

    Douche.

  56. Jaim says:

    “Regarding Breitbart, he didn’t edit the tapes.”

    He presented edited video as raw video. That’s a lie, and it’s no different than if he’d edited them himself, fuckwit.

    “Were you not just a bit curious as to why Ms Sherrod wasn’t on any Sunday talk shows this past weekend? Hmm? Just a little bit curious?”

    Because she’s not a politician, douchenozzle?

    “Does this not make the White House and Tom Vilsack dishonest racist bigots?”

    It makes them very stupid, I’ll admit, to pay any attention to a known bigot and liar like Breitbart.

    I mean, any guy that you’re obviously in love with probably isn’t worth taking seriously — Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.

  57. The Dark Avenger says:

    Again, Denise the Dense, you make the following from another thread come true:

    “or are you just cruising for a bitch-slap again?”

    Story of his sad, failed life.

  58. johnnymags says:

    damn, I’m out of popcorn.

  59. johnnymags says:

    and fwiw I read the whole of the article as an essay on false equivalency. Gee, that never happens on the interwebs.

  60. Repack Rider says:

    Regarding Breitbart, he didn’t edit the tapes.

    Just so we’re clear, how do you know that? What sort of evidence would show that he didn’t?

    If he didn’t edit the tapes himself, and if he now knows that they were edited to suggest Ms. Sherrod was saying something she wasn’t, wouldn’t you agree that the obvious response would be to expose the lying, racist source?

    Breibart got fooled by the deceptively edited ACORN video, and now this. How many times in a row can this guy fall for the ol’ banana in the tailpipe? Why does he still have a job, and why does he still get on TV?

  61. Ben says:

    Repack- the faux editing room identified their patsy in Breitbart?

  62. Southern Quaker says:

    Unlike you, though, I think it is possible that there was bias and that a bias against prosecuting voter intimidation cases of blacks against whites does exist within the DOJ.

    Just out of curiosity, has anyone explained how exactly two black men standing outside a polling place in a predominantly black precinct were there to intimidate white voters?

  63. Enlightened Liberal says:

    Southern Quaker, I asked the same problem when this mocktroversy started. The silence was deafening. So we’re to believe that the Black Panthers were there to scare voters away from the polls in a predominantly-black precinct where about 96% would be expected to vote for Obama.

  64. Marco says:

    Dennis, losing your mind this morning? You sound a little more unhinged than usual. Your name calling hissy fit was entertaining.

    How dare Shirley Sherrod question the motives of her racist attacker, your pimp, Andy Breitbart.

    Oh, the faux outrage pouring out of you over Shirley and none for your pimp Andy’s actions is more hilarious than your DOMA/DADT taunting. Pathetic. Dennis, like you give two shits about gay people. You don’t even think it’s that bad to call someone a faggot. You have not a clue about what’s going on in the fight for equality. Not a clue.

    Where is the tea party anyway in regards to equal rights for gays and lesbians? Please lay out their surely welcoming platform.

    You’re such a joke.

  65. Ol'Froth says:

    Breitbart Dennis? Really, you haven’t learned by now that anything posted there is immediatly suspect. It is just as likely that the guy wearing the swastika shirt was put there by the ‘baggers, just so they could tell him to leave, proving how non-racist they are.

    Makes about as much sense as your “liberal plants” hypothosis.

  66. Marco says:

    He’s Andy’s bitch. He does what Andy wants or he gets hit by the shoe again.

  67. jrfunkenstein says:

    ‘Regarding Breitbart, he didn’t edit the tapes.’

    Someone sure as fuck did; how could you possibly be so certain it wasn’t Breitbart himself?

  68. Dennis says:

    Think about how stupid that would be, junior. Editting a tape that you know the NAACP has the full video of. Then correctly anticipating premature ejaculation from not only Ben Jealous, who was at the meeting, but the White House and Tom Vilsack.

  69. The Dark Avenger says:

    correctly anticipating premature ejaculation from not only Ben Jealous, who was at the meeting,

    and how many things can you remember about a meeting which took place almost 25 years ago, Dennis?

    The NAACP didn’t take Breitbart seriously when he said his goal was to prove them racist.

    Now nobody believes in Brietbarts’ credibility except for folks who are pitiful conservative dead-ender mutton heads such as yourself.

 

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