School: Mark Kirk Wasn’t A Teacher Here
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This just keeps getting worse.
A leader of the church in upstate New York where Representative Mark S. Kirk of Illinois claimed he worked as a nursery school teacher said on Friday that he had overstated his role there.
The leader, Sally Grubb, a member of the administrative council at Forest Home Chapel, said Mr. Kirk, a Republican candidate for the United States Senate, had a limited role as a student while working part-time in a work-study program at Cornell University.
‘He was never, ever considered a teacher,’ Ms. Grubb said in a phone interview after spending two days researching the history of Mr. Kirk’s association with the nursery school. ‘He was just an additional pair of hands to help a primary teaching person.’
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what is a nursery school teacher? i thought a nursery school was a fancy name for day care
a better question, why would a grown man be a nursery school teacher and admit to it?
Merl, are you saying that men are incapable of being nursery school teachers? That being a nursery school teacher is beneath the dignity of a grown man? Seriously, are you trying to be funny, are you sexist, or are you just an idiot?
A very obvious ‘Yes’ to all of the above, Mike.
Unbelievable. You’ll notice he has trouble with basic grammar, too, and since he didn’t know that Kirk was a nursery school aide while on a work-study program in college you can add reading comprehension issues to that list as well.
a nursery school aide?? it keeps getting worse. did he work as a “luggage lifter” while on spring break?
merl, with all respect, I think you’re missing the point. It’s not that he was or, apparently, wasn’t a nursery school teacher; it’s that he lied about it. By itself that doesn’t seem like much, but this guy is a compulsive resume inflater. It just doesn’t seem possible that anyone could lose to Giannoulis, but this guy might pull off that feat.
i’m not missing the point, i’m yanking the baggers’ chains. i’m starting to wonder what the guy’s real name is. he’s lied about everything else. uhoh, i used bad grammar. the nursery school teacher dennis is going to give me a time out.
His resume is padded like a sofa.
No merl, you use bad grammar always, it’s just funny when you do it at the same time you’re either calling or implying someone else is an idiot.
The funnier thing is all your liberal buddies here are just too embarrassed to call you out on it because they think that kind of thing only happens with people on the right.
Winguts outraged over merl. No comments on Kirk. Surprising? Hardly.
Pretty impressive resume without the padding, the same mistake scads of politicians from both sides of the aisle tend to make with all too much frequency. For a guy that actually was a teacher at a private school, to lump that in with his experience as an assistant at a church nursery school as a teacher there too, is incorrect and the record should in all fairness be set straight. On the whole, pretty weak tea, though, Marco. I imagine more than a few instructional assistants everywhere to ‘primary teaching persons” as the leader of the church termed them, have been guilty of slipping and calling themselves ‘teachers’ when they weren’t the actual teachers heading the class they were working for.
But I guess, technically, his statement “As a former nursery school and middle school teacher, I know some of what it takes to bring order to class.”, should’ve been state as “As a former nursery school assistant to the primary teaching person and middle school teacher, I know some of what it takes to bring order to class.”
But hey, kudos to the two New York Times reporters for catching that he was a middle school teacher but not technically a nursery school primary teaching person while working there part-time when he was a full-time student.
Bravo, New York Times. Really good work, Jeff Zeleny and Emma Graves Fistzsimmons. Take the rest of the summer off, you deserve it.
Yes, Dennis. We know. It’s no big thing. Everybody does it. Damn liberal media.
What a surprise.
Douche, Marco. You asked for a response and I gave you one. I said he was incorrect and the record should have been set straight. Does everyone who is an instructional assistant to a teacher call themselves ‘teachers’ sometimes? Probably not. Do many of them at one time or another do it, probably. Especially ones that go on to become actual teachers later on.
Marco logic in a nutshell-
“What, you were an actual teacher in a private middle school but before you were that you also called yourself a teacher in a nursery school from 30 years ago when all you were was an instructional assistant to a primary teaching person? Liar. You’re not qualified, sir.”
“Instead now I’m afraid I’m going to have to vote for the guy who was the chief lending officer of a bank that the FDIC took over that ended up costing tax payers $158 million. Sorry, Mark, you’re fired.”
I have liberal buddies here? Thanks for not calling me stupid, Liberal Buddies!!!
How was the grammar there, Miss Dennis? Good enough for a nursery school teacher?
Wow, I am douche?
The way to begin any winning argument.
Or they don’t think it’s that big a deal. I mean, we could pick on someone’s grammar and typing skills as a way to sidestep actually dealing with their point, but we wouldn’t want to be mistaken for conservatives.
Dennis: I said he was incorrect and the record should have been set straight.
Yes you did. Bravo. Gold star for you for pointing out that seeking public office shouldn’t lie about their experience.
Of course, you also then dismiss it and explain at length that it’s OK that they did it. So you want a second gold star for that?
ROFLMAO!
Uh, Sean, to put this in hockey terms, it’s a minor. In baseball, it’s an umpire’s warning. If football, maybe a five yard penalty. In hoops, a touch foul. You called it a lie; I didn’t.
Seriously, if you guys had spent any time at all questioning Richard Blumenthal’s Vietnam service fabrications then you might have some room to talk about a guy lumping in a part-time nursery school instructional aide stint with his actual teaching job a few years later as being a teacher in both places when he described them in a sentence. Since you didn’t, you really don’t. It just makes you look either really partisan or really, really petty.
Or in your case, Sean, both.
In soccer terms it’s the second yellow card.
You called it a lie; I didn’t.
Yeah, I know. He said something that wasn’t true, and you don’t call it lie. Continuing once again that you don’t know what basic words mean while keeping up the conservative tradition of never, ever acknowledging a mistake by a conservative.
Not even close, Repack. If Richard Blumenthal doesn’t get the second yellow card from anyone here, Kirk shouldn’t have even gotten a comment from the peanut gallery, much less a whole blog post. To date, Blumenthal’s name has barely even come up. My guess is, Repack, that even if Blumenthal was the sort of fellow who went around calling anyone who was in favor originally of taking out Saddam Hussein a chickenhawk while at the same time speaking in terms as if he saw a lot of combat in Vietnam, that you wouldn’t even throw the first yellow at him.
Which of the two penalties, Kirk’s or Blumethal’s, would you say was the greater infraction? Or is that a rhetorical question?
Sean, you guys gave Blumenthal a complete pass for lying about his military service. Not a blog post, and barely even a mention by anyone. How can this stupid story bother you and not a guy who tried to make it look like he fought in VietNam when he didn’t?
It’s really hard to figure you out?
And seriously, what the heck are you guys soiling your drawers over in this race for, anyway. You know Barack Obama will endorse the able Democrat for his old Senate seat. Dems can’t lose, not with Obama’s backing. Give me a break.
“Nursery school Teachergate!” You guys are comical.
Yes, Dennis. It’s our fault you have no integrity.
If you conservative guys had ever been willing to admit the truth of George Bush having gone AWOL during his “service” in the National Guard, you might have some room to talk about people trying to inflate their service records from the Vietnam War.
“SEIU THUGS OBVIOUSLY GOT TO THE SCHOOL. WILL ALEXI’S CHICAGO POLITICS EVER END?”-Matt Drudge
Which of the two penalties, Kirk’s or Blumethal’s, would you say was the greater infraction?
Kirk is a serial offender on a lot of subjects, Blumenthal corrected his misstatement, and you are a chickenhawk.
I think that about covers it. Which branch did you serve in?
TEACHERGATE!! IT’S WHO THEY ARE, IT’S WHAT THEY DO. WE CORRECT OUR MISTAKES!
TEACHERGATE!! IT’S WHO THEY ARE, IT’S WHAT THEY DO. WE CORRECT OUR MISTAKES!–jr and Repack
No, Sean, as usual you miss the point. The fact that merl either wasn’t able to comprehend his basic grammar lessons or simply failed to pay attention may be no big deal to you, and if you think so that’s fine; what you’re embarrassed to call him out on is that he calls other people idiots when he lacks the ability to write a sentence correctly. That’s the sort of thing you show up here to chide conservatives about every day. When merl does it you just bite your tongue and wish he wouldn’t embarrass liberals so much, but you’d never hold him to the same standards you would a conservative. It’s just not in your DNA.
Blumenthal is a serial offender on a on a lot of subjects that he only wishes were of the sort of non-events like your teachergate here. Kirk corrected his misstatements, Blumenthal has yet to do that and new revelations are coming out still, by the New York Times no less. And you are a asshole, Repack.
I think that about covers it.
And which branch did you serve in? I didn’t. Your point is what? Because you served stateside during the Vietnamese Conflice that forever more you possess absolute moral authority over all defense issues? You’re a joke. And a complete moron. But hey, you can outride Rush Limbaugh in a race on a bike down a mountain, so you got that going for you.
Making grammatical errors when calling someone an “asshole” in the same thread you call someone an idiot for making grammatical errors, is a-okay:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/06/18/school-mark-kirk-wasnt-a-teacher-here/#comment-229455
dennis. merl does not use capital letters on purpose. did you ever think of that, you fucking moron?
The fact that merl either wasn’t able to comprehend his basic grammar lessons
or, you know, is typing on his phone and finds the shift key a bother.
I was 100% certain you couldn’t resist that one, fafaroo. I’ve been proud of you for the last week, I really have been. That was just a test, and to be honest, I actually thought it was a little too obvious for you.
Why don’t you shoot for a week and a half now this next time, what do you say?
Yup. Never admit you’re an asshole, Dennis. Never.
or, you know, is typing on his phone and finds the shift key a bother.
Possibly, but then how do you explain the question mark at the end of the sentence. Kinda hard to type that in without hitting the Alt or shift key, no?
Parthy, maybe Mark Kirk thought it was a bit of a bother to clarify his teaching role at the nursery school as one of being an ‘instructional assistant to a primary teaching person’ when he lumped his teaching role there in with his actual teaching position at a middle school to make a statement about teaching and schools in general. Did you ever think of that, or do you think this is Teachergate, too?
That typo alluded me, fafaroo.
Fucking moron.
Here we go now, once you succumb, you’ll go on a binge about this now for then next two weeks and you’ll be right back to square one. Why blow it all now when you’ve gone this far? You disappoint me.
See, Dennis? That’s the whole point. We all make grammatical mistakes in these threads. Everyone. But you’re willing to go to the mat that merl’s obviously conscious decision not to use capital letters means something of great importance.
How about if we do everyone a favor, Dennis: Make your last post, your last one in this thread and move on.
You’ve got nowhere to go but down from here.
In a thread where Dennis is criticizing merl for grammatical errors…
Possibly, but then how do you explain the question mark at the end of the sentence.
Missing a question mark there, champ.
Too rich.
Of course not, faf. Anytime he writes anything blatantly stupid or wrong, he’s just “testing us.” Don’t you see? It’s not that he’s a worthless piece of shit with emotional problems, it’s that he’s exposing us to be the… um… hypocritical, literate elitists that we are. I think.
ROFLMAO.
Walk away, Dennis. Just walk away.
Idiot, mambo, I was typing that from my cell phone and I just didn’t bother typing it in that time.
Spring chicken, you went from making idiotic comments exposing your immaturity and impetuousness to now just merely cheerleading for other posters because you’re too afraid to engage with anyone anymore.
It’s kinda sad and pathetic.
“Question mark-gate!!! Aha-we got you now, SOB!!!– Spring chickenmambo23
Clown.
fafaroo, you have yet to make a comment about the thread topic, which is pretty much your M.O. lately.
It’s you who is the clown here, my friend.
Sorry.
It’s you who is the clown here, my friend.
Really, Dennis? I is the clown here?
Please tell me you did that on purpose. Otherwise, for fucksakes, man, go away.
Textbook example of hackery.
“Kirk corrected his misstatements, Blumenthal has yet to do that and new revelations are coming out still, by the New York Times no less. And you are a asshole, Repack.” Dennis – June 19th
“But hey, kudos to the two New York Times reporters for catching that he was a middle school teacher but not technically a nursery school primary teaching person while working there part-time when he was a full-time student.
Bravo, New York Times. Really good work, Jeff Zeleny and Emma Graves Fistzsimmons. Take the rest of the summer off, you deserve it.” Dennis – June 18th
When liberals make a typo, it’s because they’re idiots, when Dennis makes a typo, it’s because of his cell phone. Or to test us. Or whatever.
FWIW, Dennis, it’s not your cell phone that make you a stupid hypocrite, I’m sure you are a stupid hypocrite with any input device. In engineering terms, it’s an output problem, not an interface one.
PS – typed on a phone, so any typos are intentional, not my fault, and a test..
Whatever you need to believe to help you sleep at night. My previous offer stands, by the way – if you’re ever in the Los Angeles area, let me know. I will buy you a beer and we can have a frank exchange of ideas. In all truth, I would love to meet you in person.
You’re a moron, Marco. Yeah, the New York Times is going to go after Mark Kirk for something silly like Teachergate because he’s a Republican, and to lool fair and balanced to the Daily Kos’s of the world for having nailed Blumenthal to the wall for far more egregious lies. When the New York Times does a story like they did on the Democrat Richard Blumenthal, it means they must think this particular Democrat is such a scuzzball that they’d be remiss not to let the country know what a scuzzball he is.
That’s not hackery in pointing that out, it just means you don’t have a clue about how the New York Times operates.
Dude, merl made a sexist comment and a highly demeaning one to all teachers and instructional assistants at nursery schools, and none of you clowns attacking me dared call him out on it. Mike did above, and I agreed, what he said was crude and idiotic, along with the fact that he rarely, if ever, writes a correct sentence when he’s berating someone else for being an idiot. He does that often, and I’ve told him that before. I told him furthermore that you clowns are embarrassed to call him out for his crudeness and habit of calling other people idiots when he never writes a correct sentence because that’s the type of thing guys like you, fafaroo, show up here to criticize conservatives of doing. You only show up to call us idiots, and bigots, and racists, and all sorts of things; and that’s your sole reason to show up here- you still haven’t posted anything on-topic. You say nothing of merl’s bigotry or idiocy, you only defend him, and you only call me out for pointing out to him his bigotry.
Yeah, we all make typos. We don’t all write sentences like we failed third grade English like merl does and we don’t do it while at the same time calling other people idiots like merl does… all the time. If I wrote something half as bigoted as merl did above, some idiot here would have it stored in a Word file and he’d repeat it every week for the next two years. When merl makes a bigoted statement like he did, you guys are all mum. Mum just like you were with Dick Blumenthal when he said he served in Vietnam. But you’re outraged that Mark Kirk said he was a teacher in a freaking nursery school when he as an instructional assistant to the primary teaching person at the nursery school.
Do you not see what hypocrites you guys are? You’ll never admit that.
Ha! Sure, Dennis. You know exactly how the Times operates and you love it when it “operates” in your favor while mocking it when it doesn’t.
Hack. Laughable hack. Put down your phone and just stop while you’re way behind.
Do you not see what hypocrites you guys are?
Dennis, please stop with the hypocrisy bullshit and stop assuming that silence is assent in an internet thread — or do you want to be held responsible for everything every conservative dipshit says here?
Is that really what you’re asking for? Really?