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President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and senior staff, react in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, as the House passes the health care reform bill, March 21, 2010.
I’ve often noted that the Republican party plays a cynical game with their religious right base. They tell them about what they’d do to stop gay marriage, abortion, and the like and then when Republican majorities are elected the most they do is chip at the margins of these issues because they know how far out of the mainstream those absolutist positions are.
I’ve also said that the Democrats risk ruin if they were elected into power without enacting health care reform, because the base of the party has demanded it so strongly.
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Delivering? Not yet… not by a long shot. This is *not* reform. Add a public option and repeal the antitrust exemption, and it *might* kinda sorta almost be reform.
Weak performance by a President, and a Congress, that are determined to serve their corporate masters rather than the folks who elected them.
Today millions more Americans will have access to health care.
What a betrayal.
Congrats to all Americans today. The President, Speaker of the House and the Democratic House moved the country forward.
For all the talk about it falling short of “real reform”, John Dingell seemed pretty happy about the passage of the bill. Maybe he has a better “long view” perspective on this than others do?
Thank you, President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and the House and Senate Democratic leadership for taking an historic first step toward fixing our broken health care system. As the spouse of a young adult cancer patient, I am especially grateful that my family, and millions of other Americans, will not have to worry about being denied coverage due to a pre-existing health condition.
And, thank you Senator Ted Kennedy for passionately fighting for health care reform over your entire career. This victory could not have been achieved without your decades of tireless advocacy.
The Tan Man just outed himself as a bigot:
http://twitter.com/GOPBoehner/status/10856577043
Holy cow, I can’t believe he said that.
Wow. Wtf.
This is good news for the McCain campaign.
All we’ve done is secure the Normandy beaches. We still have to fight the battle of the bulge and capture the Remagen bridge.
Are you sure that’s his real twitter account?? I found another one that was different, under GOPLeader.
That is not his real twitter.
Snort! I thought it was too good to be true.
Not that I doubt he’d say it for real but that’s not his Twitter account.
The actual one is: http://twitter.com/Gopleader
Still. Love that it’s passed! Hopefully it’s just the first step towards getting a single payer system like the rest of the modern world!
Of course it’s not his real account. Read some of the other tweets.
(Blah, everyone is faster at typing then me ><)
Of course his real twitter feed turns out to be worse if anything. It’s just an endless litany of ridiculous republican lies about the health care bill: “government takeover” “federal funding of abortions”, etc. I’m sure if I scroll down far enough I’d find “death panels”.
What an enormous stinking pile of clown shit that guy is.
All of his bullshit and he still failed. Poor Orange Julius.
By the way, I think the new definition of “Purity Troll behavior” should be “threatening to primary Dennis Kucinich for ‘selling out’.”
Oh, I am not missing Limbaugh tomorrow.
…although “calling Bart Stupak a ‘baby-killer’” would be a good alternate definition from the other end…
Not going to be able to tune in. Let us know if he says exactly when he’s going to be moving out of the country.
TodayIn 2014, millions more Americans will have access to health care./fixed
welcome to the 20th century, US healthcare.
In 5 years US Healthcare will be like late 20th Century Cuba.
Fake numbers to the UN and your very own cockroach on the operating table.
Health-care isn’t so bad in Cuba. You could have picked a much worse country for your tired, helpless rage.
But your tears are sweet and delicious. More of them, please!
You bought your plane ticket out yet?
@hanuman -
I’m with you. This bill is far better than nothing but I’m not going to give Obama and the Democrat’s Congressional leaders a lot of points. Pleased? Yes. Grateful? Nope.
Of course, some things will be available just in time for the mid-term elections.
I’m not missing the Daily Show! (They’d better not be on vacation. Not after the Teabagger epithets and Respected Elder Statesman and Historian Newt Gingrich claiming that passing the Civil Rights Act was a really stupid thing to do. And other stuff.)
Well .. it seemed real enough. That’s some awfully good snark then. Besides, Strom does have his fans(see Trent Lott for starters).
Relly? You can’t believe that John Boehner is a racist?
And here’s what’s funny: he doesn’t think anyone knows what he’s REALLY saying with that tweet.
That’s how stupid racists are. They think if they aren’t saying “niggerspickikechinkcameljockey” that they didn’t say anything “racist”.
What an asshole.
Gah! Wasn’t his real account!
Whether today or in 2014, SaveFerris, it’s still millions more than would have been the case if the GOP had its way.
That’s funny…David Frum says the GOP screwed up bigtime.
Just what I’ve been thinking — USAn health care has finally entered the 20th Century.
Alternatively, we finally have Third World health care, instead of the nightmare dystopian health care system we used to have.
Maybe one day we will enter the 21st Century and/or the First World.
It Is GREAT news for McCain!
Cuba is ranked 39th by the W.H.O. Little did I know being 2 steps below us = roaches on the tables.
What do we have? Lice? Bedbugs? Poltergeists?
Corporate masters, huh? Maybe. But that’s too easy.
A public option–I wanted that.
But I also live in this country where a completely effed up group of Americans think
this president is going to eat their kids. Maybe all those Dems that voted no,
Repubs that voted no and screwed up the works and all the high pitched whining from
all sides got us what we got. Perfect–not even close. Comprehensive–not even close.
But I won’t be crying now that my diabetic brother can finally get insurance.
I guess it’s the little things . . . . .
Delivering…to the wrong address.
Greenwald:
Emphasis mine. Congratulations, we’ve handed the health insurance industry change they can believe in. How progressive.
We haven’t even done that. If you’re looking for a WWII analogy, this is more like the Dieppe raid. Begun full of hope and promise, the “second front” opened at last…
Access != Care.
Let’s just see what this “access” results in. The devil is in the details, as usual.
Setting aside my judgment of the bill itself, I’m hugely pleased that Mr. Obama withstood the oceans of b.s. the GOP threw his way over the course of the last year.
Wingnut tears is so yummy!
Wow, just wow… those of you that didn’t immediately realize that was a fake twitter account truly believe the very worst things you throw out in comments about the “other side”. I assumed you were just doing the usual hyperbole-as-political-discussion thing.
That’s horrifying.
What do we have? Lice? Bedbugs? Poltergeists?
Worse. Insurance underwriters.
DEMS DON’T HAVE THE VOTES!!!
from Wikipedia:
“Social Security was controversial when originally proposed, with one point of opposition being that it would cause a loss of jobs. However, proponents argued that there was in fact an advantage: it would encourage older workers to retire, thereby creating opportunities for younger people to find jobs, which would lower the unemployment rate. While most economists attribute the recession of 1937 and 1938 to other causes, historian Edward Berkowitz subsequently contended that the Act was a cause of the “Roosevelt Recession.”
Most women and minorities were excluded from the benefits of unemployment insurance and old age pensions. Employment definitions reflected typical white male categories and patterns.[11] Job categories that were not covered by the act included workers in agricultural labor, domestic service, government employees, and many teachers, nurses, hospital employees, librarians, and social workers.[12] The act also denied coverage to individuals who worked intermittently.[13] These jobs were dominated by women and minorities. For example, women made up 90% of domestic labor in 1940 and two-thirds of all employed black women were in domestic service.[14] Exclusions exempted nearly half the working population.[13] Nearly two-thirds of all African Americans in the labor force, 70 to 80% in some areas in the South, and just over half of all women employed were not covered by Social Security.[15][16] At the time, the NAACP protested the Social Security Act, describing it as “a sieve with holes just big enough for the majority of Negroes to fall through.”
Of course you’re right, liberalrob, but on the upside, Social Security legislation was pretty awful in its first version, too, but was eventually improved. View this as a first step–we’ve taken the beach at Normandy but the rest of the war is yet to be won, as somebody (here?) said.
Oh please.
Can it be too long before we have Cuba’s GDP and Britain’s medical expertise?
As I said, Buzz, the truth is even worse.
I am already on Medicaid. My ex-wife, who is disabled, has been on Medicare for over 20 years.
I have seen the future and for the previously uninsured 30 million – it sucks !
Britain link
You fucking socialist, living off the government teat! Reprehensible!
Frank, if you hate Medicaid, why don’t you get off it and buy private insurance?
Exactly! Why are you leeching off my tax money?
Doctors cut off the wrong ball? Are you under the illusion that things like that never happen here?
I’ll see your nut and raise you a kidney
Also, if it wasn’t for Medicare/Medicaid, where do you think you and your wife would receive health insurance? I’m going to go out on a limb and say that private insurers aren’t exactly beating down your door to offer you affordable rates…
Let us know if he says exactly when he’s going to be moving out of the country.
Not a word so far. Some pretty epic whining, though, and some ‘we’ll fight on in the state governments’ stuff.
This is good news for Canadians because now Sarah Palin doesnt have to sneak into Canada when she needs healthcare!
Fantasy author George R.R. Martin (of ‘A Song of Ice and Fire’) knocked it out of the park on facebook last night.
As opposed to the Republican plan which was to continue to do nothing and rake in the insurance lobbyist monies.
So more Americans will have health care, insurance companies will be forced to abandon some nefarious practices and the bill will help to reduce the outrageous deficits run up by an 8 year exercise in needless wars and fiscal mismanagement.
Who does this Obama guy think he is? A leader?
As opposed to the Republican plan which was to continue to do nothing and rake in the insurance lobbyist monies?
So more Americans will have health care, insurance companies will be forced to abandon some nefarious practices and the bill will help to reduce the outrageous deficits run up by an 8 year exercise in needless wars and fiscal mismanagement.
Who does this Obama guy think he is? A leader?
TFJ, Quaker. I’m with you.
And I’d like to say that I couldn’t believe it, either, but I’m afraid I could. And did. And posted it on Facebook. And then went and read the rest of the posts.
I got punk’d.
Question for the peanut gallery….have you guys checked on grandma today? Y’know those death panels are now in full effect!
Maybe she’s at the neighborhood FEMA camp…better look in on her.
Just a friendly PSA
Sorry I am aborting my gay baby today on your dime.
The fact that you think it’s funny speaks volumes about your attitude. You didn’t just beat “Tech’s” Debating Club; you are celebrating the birth of an expensive, cumbersome, inefficient health care system which does not bode well for the future of this nation. But your faith in the government is unlimited. You ignore the facts: The projected costs of Medicare and Medicaid when they passed have been exceeded tenfold. I’ll bet not one of you even KNOWS someone on Medicaid or Medicare, and if you do, you have no idea what they go through, or you wouldn’t be so overjoyed.
People are already caught in bewildering paperwork errors. States are already having trouble paying for Medicaid. Do any of you have any real idea of what you are celebrating?
A victory for Big Pharma ; a victory for big hospitals; a victory for the AMA — and , as usual, the average guy gets a Federal suppository.
Card-carrying Dickensian caricature Sean Hannity just whined that there’s money in the bill for hospitals for poor people in Tennessee. Aren’t rural Tennesseeans generally real ‘murikans?
The projected costs of Medicare and Medicaid when they passed have been exceeded tenfold.
Frank, you just told us that you’re on Medicaid. Do you not feel any personal responsibility for this cost? Granted, your individual demands on the system are sub-sub-miniscule as a percentage of overall costs, but you’re still benefiting from a system that you’re now whining costs too much.
If you have gripes with paperwork, I can understand that, but if you hate it so much, why aren’t you on a private insurance plan?
I’ll bet not one of you even KNOWS someone on Medicaid or Medicare, and if you do, you have no idea what they go through, or you wouldn’t be so overjoyed.
Actually, I do. My mother had to have her entire aorta rebuilt or risk a rupture.
Her condition had deteriorated to the point where the surgery required her entire left side opened up to the tune of 160 stiches and 8 hours of cardiac surgery. It took her over a month in the hospital to recover.
Since my mom was retired and had no private insurance, we anticipated a bill that would likely result in a mortgage on her home that had long since been paid up.
Then the bill came; $0.00 -paid in full through Medicare / Medicaid.
Is there paperwork involved? You bet, and there are still out-of-pocket expenses for prescriptions but my mother is very much alive and she won’t have to mortgage her home.
So yes, I do know someone on Medicaid / Medicare and have a very good idea what she and us went through, fuck you very much.
Democrats to America: Drop Dead
Enjoy the moment. In 224 days we’ll find out whether people prefer the “Party of No” or the “The Party of ObamaCare”.
Waaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaa! Oh, did you say something? All I could hear was shrieking and wailing from a bunch of babies who got their little asses kicked last night, and they haven’t stopped crying since. Do let me know when the bitter tears stop flowing, mmmkay sweetie? Do you need Auntie Sarah to tell you a wittle bedtime story to make the scawy thoughts go away, mmm?
Until then, you can go find a nice insane wingnut blog to talk about armed insurrection, that will make baby happy, right?
Wow, that’s horrible! The chutzpah of democratically elected representatives and a presidential administration to openly thumb their noses at focus groups and polls! It’s fucking Hitlerian, it is!
Oh, wait,
Ah, “based on what your have read or heard.” So Teh American Peoples still reject Death Panels and FEMA Internment Camps and Teh Muslin Kenyan Dicktater Nobama. Well, then. And They just oppose it because it’s too dadgum liberal. Obviously. No need to get any more specific than that! That says it all! Thanks Dave in SoCal for the insights. Wow, Newt Gingrich is correct per usual. This is worse than that awful Civil Rights Bill back in Teh Sixties. Fucking hippies!
Dave, you should probably take into account that from here until November people are more likely to be “reading and hearing” about what’s actually in the bill and how it will actually effect them.
When I picked up the LA Times this morning it had just such an article, detailing exactly how this bill will impact people at various income levels and in various insurance situations. Why they didn’t run such an article months ago, I have no idea, but they were too busy running he said/she said pieces.
Steve Benen sums it up nicely:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_03/022996.php
Go check the links Benen highlights. He includes the LA Times piece I woke up to this morning.
It will be a lot harder for conservatives to scream “Death panels” and “socialism” now that journalists have finally gotten around to reporting what’s actually in the bill.
I imagine there will always be the 20 percenters who will never trust the hated MSM and insist that this bill will kill grandma but the window for further right wing bullshit slinging is rapidly closing.
So good luck with that “Remember in November” campaign.
I haven’t read the bill. But I know it contains death panels, babykillers, republicankillers, socialism, reparations, government takeovers, you lies and legislation that makes Obama a legal citizen.
I know this because I only watch America’s Most Trusted News Source – what with the communist MSM having been taken over by George Soros’ and his Saul Alinsky Mind Control Techniques.
Satan laughing, spreads his wings. Oh lord yeah! Da da. Da Da Da, Da!
I thought Cons didn’t pay attention to polls. Apparently that changed 1/21/2009. I figure polls in 1964 were against Civil Rights Legislation also. Good thing liberals didn’t listen to those polls, huh Davey?
Not if they are poor. Poor people are NEVER real Americans, no matter how white they are.
Frank is alive because of socialized medicine. Frank, btw You’re welcome.
Hey Dave, what do you think the odds are of the 13% of people who think that this bill isn’t “liberal enough” are going to vote for the Republicans in November?
By my count, 52% favor the bill or think it’s not liberal enough, and 43% oppose it and think it’s too liberal.
Suck it.
Yeah, as a relatively liberal guy why grossly dislikes the modern Republican party and their suckass policies, I sincerely hope that Republicans run on “Repeal HCR”. Go for it, dildos!