Mormon Church To Glenn Beck: We Do Social Justice Too
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TV’s biggest moron.
Mr. Beck, in vilifying churches that promote ‘social justice,’ managed to insult just about every mainline Protestant, Roman Catholic, African American, Hispanic and Asian congregation in the country – not to mention plenty of evangelical ones.
Even Mormon scholars in Mr. Beck’s own church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in interviews that Mr. Beck seems ignorant of just how central social justice teaching is to Mormonism.
The controversy began when Mr. Beck said on his radio show on March 2: ‘I beg you, look for the words ’social justice’ or ‘economic justice’ on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words.
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Social justice means INVOLUNTARY redistribution of wealth. Mormonism summarily rejects the notion of the INVOLUNTARY confiscation of property. It can only be consecrated or freely given — which is a huge difference and a difference that Glenn Beck has clearly articulated.
Team Rocket’sStupid Pundit’s blasting off again…“The Mormon Church has been taken over by the Alinsky movement. I was listening to Paper Roses by Marie Osmond and it all clicked”-Glenn Beck
Hey it’s called social justice, don’t you get it? It’s SOCIALISM!!!11
Maybe those golden plates had Atlas Shrugged written on them.
Anyone surprised? A distinct lack of empathy for Teh Other is the key difference between Modern Republicans and liberals. This is modern Republicanism in a nutshell: I got mine, Others are evil Welfare Queens, non-English speakers, and Fags. Spooky when the mask slips, although Beck’s seems to slip a good bit more than most Republicans’.
Indeed beat me to it. “Social Justice” is more code-shit served up to the haters. Social Justice = helpin’ funny-talkin/poor/brown/not-Real-Murricans.
Is “involuntary” redistribution of wealth anything like what is happening right now as the middle class gets poorer and the mega-rich get richer by selling middle class jobs to Pakistan while paying less than half the rate they did when Eisenhower was president?
Or is upward redistribution to the already rich “voluntary,” and it’s only downward redistribution through tax-paid infrastructure projects that provide jobs, provide public medical care and public education, and benefit the entire country, that is involuntary?
If you know.
No wonder the tea baggers love him so.
Glenn Beck hasn’t clearly articulated anything in his whole fucking life.
Beck is ignorant of something? Please wait a moment while I get over my surprise.
Well in 40 years we have gone from Jesus Christ, Superstar to Jesus Christ, Plutocrat. Thanks, Glenn.
So what churches advocate social and economic injustice?
Scientology.
I would add any church that advocates the prosperity gospel, off hand.
“Mr. Beck seems ignorant…”
Got that right.
The trouble is that most Christians are not biblically literate. They trust blindly in what their pastors teach them, and so make inaccurate comparisons of Jesus’ love for the poor and related encouragement for us to minister to them, as being somehow equal with Social Justice. Neither Jesus, the Bible, nor the Mormon Church have ever advocated for forced distirubioin of wealth to the poor. All LDS offerings for the indigent are “Free Will,” in fact concept of moral agency lies at the very heart of the Mormon Faith. Modern concepts of social justice are anathema to the true doctrine of moral agency, they cannot coexist.
Love, not force, is the key!
“Glen Beck” is a code phrase for stupid.
What Glenn Beck failed to get across is the history of LIBERALISM within the church, what Liberalism (modernism) has done to the church, and the consequences of Modern Philosophy on the world. Both have been devasting.
I would suggest that he reads ‘Christianity and Liberalism’ by J. Gresham Machen and then listen to R.C. Sprouls Audio Series on Philosphy (@ sermon audio.com).
If he started with those he would have some firm theological ground to stand upon…
oooops I forgot. He is a Mormon
Sorry just kidding. But I bet he doesn’t even know the differences between a Orthodox Presbyterian, a Charismatic Pentacostal, and a Arminian Baptist.
Done right, social justice aids freedom and liberty. Making slavery illegal is a case in point.
Anyways… where are our neighborhood wingnuts to defend Glenn Beck? What if Sarah Palin had said the exact same thing?
“Maybe those golden plates had ‘Atlas Shrugged’ written on them.”
Bravo, good sir! That was excellent!
What Glenn Beck failed to get across is the history of LIBERALISM within the church, what Liberalism (modernism) has done to the church, and the consequences of Modern Philosophy on the world. Both have been devasting.
I would suggest that he reads ‘Christianity and Liberalism’ by J. Gresham Machen and then listen to R.C. Sprouls Audio Series on Philosphy (@ sermon audio.com).
If Palin said the same thing Fox would sign her up for a $50 million deal for a show.
Seems every Peter, Cappadocian, Templar and Martin believes they alone speak for the divine. Why don’t these yahoos just shut up and let God talk for once?
The demonization of the taxation function of government still puzzles me. How, exactly, do the necessary activities of government get funded, if not by taxation?
Oh, that’s right – anything that anyone from Glennbeckistan doesn’t want to pay for is, by definition, _not_ a necessary function of government.
The demonization of the taxation function of government still puzzles me. How, exactly, do the necessary activities of government get funded, if not by taxation?
But lowering taxes generates more revenue!
Also, Brawndo has electrolytes, which plants crave!
But lowering taxes generates more revenue!
Guess what….it did!
Increased employment too. Funny that, huh?
Why do bloggers only quote lay members of the mormon church? Read what Dallin Oaks a mormon Apostle has said about the role of government.
“Along with many other religious people, we affirm that God is the ultimate source of power and that, under Him, it is the people’s inherent right to decide their form of government. Sovereign power is not inherent in a state or nation just because its leaders have the power that comes from force of arms. And sovereign power does not come from the divine right of a king, who grants his subjects such power as he pleases or is forced to concede, as in Magna Carta. As the preamble to our constitution states: “We the People of the United States . . . do ordain and establish this Constitution.”
This principle of sovereignty in the people explains the meaning of God’s revelation that He established the Constitution of the United States “that every man may act . . . according to the moral agency which I have given unto him, that every man may be accountable for his own sins in the day of judgment” (Doctrine and Covenants 101:78). In other words, the most desirable condition for the effective exercise of God-given moral agency is a condition of maximum freedom and responsibility — the opposite of slavery or political oppression. With freedom we can be accountable for our own actions and cannot blame our conditions on our bondage to another. This is the condition the Lord praised in the Book of Mormon, where the people — not a king — established the laws and were governed by them (see Mosiah 29:23–26). This popular sovereignty necessarily implies popular responsibility. Instead of blaming their troubles on a king or tyrant, all citizens are responsible to share the burdens of governing, “that every man might bear his part” (Mosiah 29:34).”
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I’ve done a little research on my own- something Mr. Beck constantly highlghts as a requirement of a free society and a freedom-loving people. Google: “UCBerkley Social Justice Symposium” for their definition of what embodies the spirit of this issue: “Social justice is a process, not an outcome, which (1) seeks fair (re) distribution of resources, opportunities, and responsibilities…” Wikipedia defines social justice as involving “a greater degree of economic egalitarianism through progressive taxation, income redistribution, or even property redistribution, policies aimed toward achieving that which developmental economists refer to as more equality of opportunity and equality of outcome than may currently exist in some societies or are available to some classes in a given society”. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” Sound familiar?
If this is your idea of the gospel of Jesus Christ who taught us individual faith, hope, and charity, then we are truly on a different page. Do your own homework- we all seem to be emotionally overcome with other people’s opinions and intellectually withdrawn from truth.
So um, no one else thinks it’s hilarious that Repack Rider sarcastically remarked that we are shipping jobs to Pakistan? Just wanted to highlight that, cuz I almost fell out of my chair.
“You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the law of consecration as contained in this, the book of Doctrine and Covenants [he displays the book], in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.”
“Each of you bow your head and say, “Yes.”
YOu walk a fine line to say that such an oath is not required for participation in the Church and that it does not require redistribution of wealth. The Law of Consecration and the United Order were always intended as plans of redistribution of wealth, whether or not they are voluntary would be a hard argument to make.
If it can be surmised that one of the philisophical tenets of America is “equal opportunity to rise unequally”, then then one must presume the pre-existence of equal opportunity.
Jesus taught Simon the Zealot that we must change ourselves before we can change our world; the lesson being that after we have changed ourselves, we cannot accept injustice in the world and it is our moral and spiritual duty to not turn a blind eye to it.
For those who live in democratic societies, the tool used to address social injustice is our government.
Without strong-minded and spiritually attuned individuals struggling within our system of goverment, we would not have attained women’s suffrage or the emancipation or the Civil Right’s Act.
What Glenn Beck was talking about was denominations that support abortion, homosexuality, euthanasia, racism, laws like healthcare that pay for abortions and sex change operations and other unAmerican values like redistribution of wealth. One example would be denominations like United Church of Christ that Obama belonged to: http://www.ucc.org/justice/issues.html
or pastors like Jeremiah Wright (he married the Obamas) at Obama’s old church Trinity United Chrurch of Christ, the same UCC.org denomination above, who spew racism and curse America: http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114
Profanity is the last argument of the uneducated.