Pass The Health Care Bill Say People Opposed To Health Care Bill
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This poll continues to confirm something I’ve been seeing in other polls. People like the provisions in the health care bill as presented by President Obama, the House, and the Senate. Most weirdly, even among the half of people supposedly opposed to the bill there is support for the reforms in the bill.
What does this mean?
It means that the noise of the GOP attack apparatus as funneled by Fox News has accomplished their overall mission of suppressing support for “Obamacare” but it hasn’t diminished the desire people have for reforming the system. Effectively, many of these people are dumb. Because of the fear-mongering they see on TV and hear on the radio and read online, they oppose a bill with provisions that they support.
Ideally, we wouldn’t allow these people to vote any more because of the serious damage they keep inflicting on democracy. I mean, come on.
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Effectively, many of these people are dumb.
In other news, water is still wet, putting your hand on a hot stove will still burn you, and the current year is 2010.
Most of the teabaggers are collecting disability and receive Medicare. They have no idea how much private insurance costs
Calling those who agree with you “stupid”: a sure-fire vote getter!
2010 is looking more and more like a slaughter. No wonder Dems are so desperate to pass Health Care: they won’t be in power again for decades to come.
There is truth, and there is strategy.
Unfortunately, Oliver, the ink used to write Obama’s proposal is made from Unicorn Farts and Rainbow Wishes.
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=473
Since most of Oliver’s sycophants will probably be too afraid to hit that link, my opening sentence means that the proposal is so vague that the CBO can’t score it.
And since that last sentence has too many big words in to for Oliver’s typical readership, that the proposal is vague means it is expensive for people who work for a living.
And jr, if you had any proof of your statement, you’d post a link to it. Since I know for a fact that it’s absurdly wrong, you get the “Douche of the Day” award.
“…that the proposal is vague means it is expensive for people who work for a living.”
Whaa…?
“Vague” is apparently the big word he is referring to, which is apparently soooo big he himself doesn’t understand what it means.
I don’t think OW is running for any office, Farris.
Health care is already expensive for people who work for a living, Phil, and will get disastrously more so if we don’t pass meaningful health care reform. That you don’t know this suggests that either a) you don’t work for a living b) you’re already on the government health-care dole, or c) you’re bone-stupid.
PS: your link doesn’t mean what you say it means.
your link doesn’t mean what you say it means.
Shocking.
In related news, Obama offers to post Republican health care proposals on White House website in advance of health care summit… but finds it difficult to post the back of a cocktail napkin.
And since Phil “knows for a fact” that it’s “absurdly wrong” that all those grey-haired screaming teabaggers are getting Medicare, I am sure he will be happy to post links to the detailed statistical analyses and surveys demonstrating this. Because as we all know, Phil couldn’t possibly be pulling “facts” out of his own ass! No!
Any objections to a literacy test? Property ownership? I agree 100% with you that stupid and/or uneducated people should not be able to vote.
I’d be more in favor of disenfranchising assholes. Republican party: poof! Gone!
Calling those who agree with you “stupid”: a sure-fire vote getter!
Seems to work better than calling those who disagree with you socialists.
Shorter: “Let the rich decide everything!”
If the redistribution scheme fits…
Likewise, if the stupid fits….
I say we go with Tancredo’s suggestion. Pass a civics test. That way, Tancredo would lose his vote and so would 99% of all teabaggers.
… and when it clearly doesn’t, claim it does anyway.
Right, Farris?
Phil: Since most of Oliver’s sycophants will probably be too afraid to hit that link, my opening sentence means that the proposal is so vague that the CBO can’t score it.
Did you actually read what you linked to? It’s only a few sentences long and yet you still managed to completely not get it.
Nobody reasonable would expect the CBO to be able to provide a cost estimate based on a description of the full plan. Someone who thinks “It’s about a guy who divides his kingdom between his three daughters” is exactly the same as the unabridged King Lear might, but they be an idiot and best ignored.
And since that last sentence has too many big words in to for Oliver’s typical readership, that the proposal is vague means it is expensive for people who work for a living.
Your reading comprehension is similar to Dennis’s. The CBO didn’t come anywhere near to saying the proposed plan was too vague. They said they haven’t seen the detailed plan so were unable to, in effect, form an opinion on it.
Not taking a position on something until you’ve actually seen it and had time to evaluate it. What a radical notion!
Speaking of morans, whatever happened to “morans” dude? Did he get rid of his mullet and glasses to be less recognizable? Is he about to go postal from all the “Get a brain morans!” shouts from passing cars?
Since our own village morans have no links to any conservative proposals, I’ve taken the liberty to post one I found all by myself:
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5175
Now, I’m curious if this thing will go viral and eventually wind up on FoxNews and then in the Republicans proposal.
Remember how I said the working class whites on the right oppose health care reform based on race? Where here’s an article that elaborates on this topic better than I ever could. And of course, Rush Limbaugh is at the forefront of the “coded” language.
http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/limbaugh_calls_health_care_reform_reparations_and_civil_rights/
No, no and Hell no. People aren’t stupid, they’re under-educated and misinformed. Put in some sort of test and see what happens – rich bastards fight even harder against funding schools so fewer and fewer people can pass the test.
What we need is better education. Hell of a lot harder and will take a lot longer but it’s the right way to do it.
Some republicans want to prevent people from voting – and it’s the liberals that are elitist?
#1 Rheinhard, I’m not the one making scurrilous accusations, so it is up to jr to prove his point. Are there a small percentage of Teapartiers on Medicare? Most likely. Are they all on Medicare? Doubtful. And that was his claim. I called bullshit first, he has to prove the point. Or you do. It is not my job to disprove accusations made by others when simple logic can prove that even the idea itself is wrong.
#2, and this is for all of you below this comment, the “description” the CBO spoke of was this
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/02/22/read-president-obamas-health-care-proposal/
Apologies can be delivered to the email addy attached to my name.
Have a nice day.
In related news, Obama offers to post Republican health care proposals on White House website in advance of health care summit… but finds it difficult to post the back of a cocktail napkin.
Another Democratic Talking Point FAIL:
Apparently the liberal intelligentsia here, who believe themselves to be soooo much smarter than much of the American population, are just not that bright about certain things.
Ideally, we wouldn’t allow these people to vote any more because of the serious damage they keep inflicting on democracy.
Disenfranchising white illiterate voters because they’re interfering with our black President’s agenda?
Why yes, that does make you a racist, Oliver.
Well, except for the white part, and the racist part, and the interfering part, you almost have something there.