Palin Power… For Dems
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One of the things the mainstream media and the right haven’t yet figured out is that for all of the hoopla behind Sarah Palin’s appeal to the right (and subsequent squealing from grown men who should know better), she also is a hell of a motivating factor on the left. The DSCC just sent out a fundraising appeal with this image:
Sarah Palin is probably the best thing to happen to Democratic fundraising since George W. Bush. She fills the role that Sec. Clinton did for so long with the right.
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Uh, shouldn’t that read:
Double-edged sword.
She fills the role that Sec. Clinton did for so long with the right, but Sec. Clinton came very, very, very close to becoming the Democratic nominee for President; and likely then the eventual President.
…and Palin actually BECAME the Republican nominee for Vice-President, and with the advanced age of Sen. Grumpypants McCain, then “likely then the eventual President.”
Yes, but the popular image of Sec. Clinton is not as a moron. I’m serious. Even her con detractors don’t think Clinton is dumb. The same can’t be said for Palin, even Republicans don’t think she’s sharp, let alone Dems and Independents.
Yeah, fixed.
And now she’s the Secretary of State.
Keep on doin’ what you’re doin’.
Now that sounds like an endorsement!
So, Dennis, now that you’ve picked your candidate for the top of the ticket, who do like in the VP slot?
The point is, bashing Clinton by conservated elevated her and only served to endear her more to her supporters, and and it lowered the people who did it to her so much.
This is a very good analogy you’ve made. Many parallels.
….bashing Clinton by conservatives…
(I was home-scholed.)
I love your convoluted logic. Bashing Clinton didn’t help to elevate her. She did that herself, by taking on new challenges. She could have just been a former first lady like all the others. Instead she ran for the senate, then president.
Certainly, she never quit (sometimes to the consternation of people like me).
No, fafaroo, but despite all the times you guys have declared her to be toast, I think she’ll be fairly influential for a while to come. If you guys have the numbers and the data to support that acting like children in your anti-Palin bashing is a profitable venture, then more power to you.
So it’s fun- it makes you money- you look like idiots.
Win-win-lose.
In politics, two out of three ain’t bad, is it?
Ride that horse into the ground, guys.
You don’t think calling her a dyke who had an affair with Vince Foster before conspiring to kill him elevated her image?
Oliver, you bashed her more than my friends and I bashed her, just looking at this one thread. The truth is, conservatives bashing her did elevate her. It’s purely anecdotal I’ll admit, but I had lots of friends who were liberals who told me countless times that they weren’t crazy about Hillary being the next president because- mainly then because they didn’t particularly relish a Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton progression, but that the thought of Hillary pissing off so many conservatives who spent 8 years bashing her would’ve been too sweet for words. I remember a fair amount of pundits saying the same thing.
If not for a poorly-run campaign on her part and a very good one by Obama, the Tuzla fabrication, and an over-confident aura and appearance that it was destiny she be the next president at a point way too early in the primaries, she would be the President right now.
So you wouldn’t vote for her as president?
Oliver, you bashed her more than my friends and I bashed her
Bwahahaha, you mean like the time she was accused of murder? Scratch that, the several times she was accused of such?
I made a substantive argument against her. I thought citing her time as first lady as presidential executive level experience was ridiculous. What I didn’t do is throw a decades worth of unsubstantive mud versus her like you and your friends did.
Sarah sure loves America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI
Two words: John Edwards.
None of my friends thought she murdered Vince Foster. I do think she was complicit in suppressing Bubba’s long history of alleged serial molestations. I honestly don’t know where you formulate opinions like that, that because some people out of the more than 50% of the population who hold center-right or right opinions, the few that hold extreme or ridiculous opinions means they all do. That because some wondered about the somewhat weird circumstances behind Vince Foster’s suicide, that we all thought Hillary had him offed. That because there are some racists that we’re all racists. That because there are some birthers that we’re all birthers. You can claim that that’s not what you’re doing, but it is, Oliver.
History re-write in the making. “I never really liked John Edwards.”
When conservative leaders say it again and again and again and again, and they aren’t ridiculed for holding conspiracy theories, it makes the point clear.
Thankfully, John Edwards is a philanderer but not responsible for the deaths of thousands like current history rewrite subject George W. Bush.
Good God. Your believing that is more ingrained in you than trutherism is for truthers, than birtherism is for birthers, than Trig-trutherism is for Andrew Sullivan, and weird, conservative history re-write conspiracy theories are for you and your followers here.
“They believe 9/11 didn’t happen when Bush was President!!!!”
“They deny Bush was the President when AIG was bailed out!!!”
We’re all working on getting Wikipedia to show write out both of those things to say Obama was President for both of those occurrences right now.
I do think she was complicit in suppressing Bubba’s long history of alleged serial molestations. – Dennis
I think she is guilty of something alleged.
Comedy Gold.
Ah, here we see another deployment of “Dennis Feint #7″… “Oh no, none of MY friends believe this meme which was on every right wing message board, Drudge, and Limbaugh…“, despite his willingness to pop into every other message thread here and insert the latest “Look over there!” from freerepublic or worldnetdaily.
I used to like John Edwards. Now I think he’s a shit human being.
But if we came down to the awful choice of having to choose one of the following for the presidency:
A. a philandering ratbastard who cheats on his ill wife, fathers a bastard and lies about his private affairs
B. a dirt-ignorant aging beauty queen with delusions of divine guidance who lies about everything, public and private.
I’d still go with option A.
How about wife-beater, to his wife who has cancer, Oliver? Does that not bother you about the guy? You think that his only fault is he had a consensual relationship with a woman not his wife? And we’re the history re-writers?
If I hadn’t written alleged, Marco, any one of at least 5 commenters here would have. The only question would’ve been who was first. My money would’ve been on Repack Rider.
Not to defend the guy (and I guess I wouldn’t put it past him at this point), but isn’t the ‘wife-beater’ tag still in the ‘alleged’ category?
Rheinhard, you seem to be looking for membership in to the Gang of the Obsessed here.
How’s that “dishrag-y moron-y” workin for ya now Sarah?
Given those options, agreed.
I’m similarly disappointed in Edwards. But moral failings don’t mean the person wouldn’t know how to get the job done. Palin would have no idea what to do.
The only one rewriting the history on Iraq is … Joe Biden! Haven’t you gotten the latest talking points yet? Iraq is now a success!!!
Ah, I see the outlines of Dennis Feint #8; whenever one points out that anyone on the right has repeated the same lie multiple times, or repeatedly used the same strawman tactic, etc., Dennis Feint #8 is simply to accuse that one of being “obsessed”. Thus, Oliver is “obsessed” with Sarah Palin when he points out she had to write “Cut taxes” on her hand and couldn’t even get it right with the magic marker. I am “obsessed” with him when I point out that every time a common wingnut trope X is discussed, he claimes “I don’t know anyone who believes X, and therefore X is not a valid point of attack”.
I’ve made pretty clear I think John Edwards is scum. But so far he hasn’t sent the country into a war that unnecessarily killed thousands.
Thanks, Den. You keep bringing the funny.
Dude, what is your problem?
I told OW that because it’s not like people were going around thinking Hillary Clinton was a cold-blooded murderer. I didn’t deny that it was discussed by various pundits at the time or that it wasn’t written about, because I know it was. But as your everyday man on the street conversations, I’m just saying no one I know was going around saying that. It might have been,’hey, did you hear about what some people are saying about the Vince Foster death?’, but it wasn’t like anyone would say that’s waht happened or treated it like anything other that what it was, which wasn’t much. Oliver would’ve been 13 at the time. You, I don’t know, maybe what, six or seven. I’m wondering how many people in the seventh grade were telling Oliver that Hillary Clinton was having an affair with a guy named Vince Foster even though she was a lesbian and she had to have him rubbed out because he was about to come clean on Whitewater and Madison Guaranty. Sounds like it was his whole class.
Bottom line, Rheinhard, take it for what it was; the view from my window. I never said it was anything but, except to point out to OW, since he seems to know what I and my friends are thinking and saying, that it wasn’t everyone going around saying Hillary was murderer.
Dolt.
More than 13 posts from Dennis.
Get rid of Todd and marry the idiot woman already, Dennis.
What’s interesting to me is that it seems like a tea party candidate in addition to a republican candidate would actually net in many more democrat wins. See NY-23 last year… Maybe they shouldn’t try to stop the tea partiers!
People, don’t sweat it, Kid Zero has the answer to all of America’s problems:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/19997
‘No, fafaroo, but despite all the times you guys have declared her to be toast, I think she’ll be fairly influential for a while to come.’
The only people she’s influencing are those even more intellectually stunted than she is; despite the fact that’s a lot of people in the U.S., it’s still not enough to validate Palin’s being taken seriously as a viable candidate, much less win a national election.
Hey Canada Funk,
Go ask Evan Bayh how much he’s been influenced by Barack Obama’s superior intellect.
Go ask Martha Coakley. And John Corzine and Creigh Deeds.
Ask Harry Reid how much Obama and Biden’s intellect are influencing voters in his state.
Dolt.