Sarah Palin: Tax Cheat?
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Records show that Sarah Palin has not paid any property taxes on cabins that have been built on two backcountry plots partially owned by the former Alaska governor.
It’s unclear how long ago the structures were built, but records show that there are no tax assessments for the buildings. Property taxes were only paid on the land – and not the structures themselves.
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I hate her with the fire of several suns, but this is not much to go on, could be an honest mistake, still amusing.
Oliver, dude. This has gone well past the point of being scary for you.
Like, rubber room and throw away the key.
Please make sure someone checks in on you over the weekend if you get snowed in.
Dennis, I know you would rather I ignore these embarrassing, hilarious stories about your hero Sarah Palin, but they are TOO GOOD not to blog.
Bitch. Distemper. Mange. SSDD, as Stephen King would say.
How the fuck much more proof do you need of her absolute incompetence before you GET IT??!!
Yet, if it were, say, Barbara Boxer in the same situation, you and the rest of the rightards would be all over it like stank on shit.
Maybe Obama will finally consider her for his cabinet.
I’m grizzled enough that when I’ve been in Alaska people assumed I was from there. It’s more than a big place, it’s effng VAST and empty. It’s hard to check up on stuff without a reason, and people get away with a lot.
I find it interesting that the whole MSM, liberal blogs, conservative blogs
and anyone with a little time on their hands follow Bible Spices’s antics, but Dennis
seems to think Oliver is obsessed with detailing Sarah’s daily dramas.
I say this sincerely Dennis–no snark–Sarah loves being talked about.
Any publicity is good publicity for her. She puts this insanity all out
there for ANYONE to see. And as RB said — if this was a democrat you’d be throwing
up from the laughter.
Shorter Dennis:
‘LEAVE SARAH PALIN ALONE!!!!!’ Sniff, sniff.
Sarah will use Trig to get out of this
When Obama heard this, he immediately offered her the Secretary of Commerce position.
She’ll bring him out shoeless and coatless and talk about how
she’s hoping and wishing people and President Obama would stop attacking her family–
and their copious amounts of property.
Yet this is so much more hysterically funny.
And you seem to have Sarah’s problem with Obama . . . . .
I think it’s strategic. I think she’s working hard on a “regular conservative guy” image for her base. I predict that next up will be disclosing an alcohol and/or drug addiction, followed by a sex scandal.
Leota2,
Just not true. Here’s a challenge to you to prove it.
John Edwards.
The guy is ten times, no one hundred times, the bigger POS politician and human being than Sarah Palin is, and would’ve been 100 times the disaster for America and for his party had he, God forbid, made it to the White House.
Name one blogger on the right that talks about him even one/tenth as much as this place does about Citizen Sarah America.
He’s just too f’ing ugly of a person for anyone to want to talk about in casual conversation and his story gets weirder by the day to the point it’s too sad and repulsive to go on about. The only thing conservatives really wish to discuss about it is the fact that liberals never do.
12 inches of Global Warming is headed your way, Oliver.
They’re both ugly people. But Edwards doesn’t have legions of adoring fans.
Comparison fail.
Oh, but Edwards did have legions of adoring fans, Jaim. The fell for his ‘Two Americas’ bullshit, hook, line and sinker.
You voted for him at least once. Think about that, Jaim; you actually voted for that cretin to be in the White House. You’d have voted for him a second time if Obama had accepted Edwards’ offer of his endorsement in exchange for the Vice President running mate pick. You would’ve bashed the shit out of National Enquireer and denied to your dying breath that he was having an affair because that’s what the Democratic party would be doing as well. And you would’ve done what most liberals did when the National Enquirer first revealed that he was having an affair- mocked anyone who paid attention to that magazine as being lunatics.
The comparison is quite apt, despite your attempt to run away from it.
And when people found out about his affair they turned on him like normal, morally function humans are prone to do.
However, we keep learning more about what a terrible politician and mother Palin is and your crush on her flourishes.
And yeah, it would have been bad if he’d won the nomination. But I’m not going to lose sleep over what’s going on in alternate universes.
But I’m glad you share an equal contempt for adulterers like Vitter, Foley, Ensign, and Craig.
Vitter, Foley, Ensign and Craig won’t be running for President and won’t be asked to be anyone’s running mate, either, or if they ever did they won’t get my vote no matter what. Edwards beat his wife, Jaim. He used his wife’s cancer and his son’s death for political advantage. And you guys didn’t turn on him when you knew about his affair. You didn’t turn on him until well after you knew.
Here, Jaim, read Logan Murphy at C&L’s trashing of Ann Coulter for even mentioning what she read about Edwards well before the Iowa primaries.
Proof Ann Coulter is So Desperate She’ll Say Anything To Get Air Time
Then read the loon comments there in full denial mode about their ‘Two America’s’ hero. And then ask me if I want to make a bet with you if Logan ever made a retraction or apology for that post. You guys continue to trash Palin as a means to mask your shame for ever supporting a monster that easily could’ve decimated your party for a very long time. Someone who got your full-throated support, dude.
“And you guys didn’t turn on him when you knew about his affair.”
Yes we did, liar.
No, you didn’t.
Apologist lemming.
I defended what Edwards did?
Seriously man, seek help. It’s not really that funny any longer to see you wallow in delusion.
Well actually it is. But it’s also really predictable.
When it became clear Edwards was cheating he was dead in the water among Democrats. And while I give credit to National Inquirer for its investigative reporting, unlike wing-nuts I don’t believe anything I read anywhere.
You denied it until you couldn’t deny it any longer, is what you’re saying.
Surprise, surprise.
And if he had been Obama’s choice, you’d still be denying it.
“You denied it until you couldn’t deny it any longer, is what you’re saying.”
Link please. Get to it, Google-monkey.
dennis you are a profoundly stupid man.
‘The guy is ten times, no one hundred times, the bigger POS politician and human being than Sarah Palin is,’
So now it’s a ‘who’s the bigger POS contest?’
You hear anyone DEFENDING John Edwards Dennis? Or just more of your deafening outcry that Palin is unfairly targeted for being a lying, vacuous, self promoting media whore?
‘Name one blogger on the right that talks about him even one/tenth as much as this place does about Citizen Sarah America.’
IF the Left were still touting his sorry ass as a viable candidate for 2012, or if Edwards had the gall to portray himself as ‘a man of the people,’ you better believe the Right would be losing their minds over it.
As Palin continues her vulgar, self anointed tour as America’s savior, she is drawing all the attention she so desperately craves, but little of it is positive. You and the rest of her supporters may find this unfair, but the reality is she is generating her own media attention which continues to show her up as the empty vessel she is.
If you and the rest of her slavish devotees can’t deal with that, it’s your problem.
That’s what happens when you spend your day yelling at clouds.
Here’s the difference between Edwards and Palin.
Edwards’ personal life may have been a mess, but his Two Americas “bullshit” (as Dennis calls it) is obviously TRUE. Look at the difference in how proposals to extend unemployment benefits or COBRA, or to allow mortgage cramdown for suffering middle class homeowners, are treated by Washington (Republicans & Democrats), as opposed to propping up the Wall Street billionare traitor criminal class that got us into the mess in the first place. Verrry different no?
Now, on the other hand, let’s look at Sarah Palin’s claim, for example, that only small town are “real America”. My father and brother both served in the Army and they grew up in the big city of Philadelphia. According to Bible Spice this makes them un-persons.
Sorry, regardless of the person spouting them one of these views recognizes an objective truth about how this country is run, and the other is a pernicious vile slander of a huge (possibly majority) chunk of the American electorate by someone we’re supposed to pretend “loves America”.
Fuck that grifter cow.
The horrible, John Edwards at this time is a nonentity. His face isn’t all over FAUX,
and he’s not speaking to large political forums and he’s not threatening to run for president. So
why should he be a big deal? And as he is now pretty much vilified by much of the left. . . .
But Dennis–you don’t think Sarah’s narratives and acts aren’t those of a hypocrite?
Hmmmm.
She has no integrity. She calls for Rahm’s job, yet gets her pitbull Meg to cough up a
weak statement when Rushbo says “retarded” four times the next day”. She didn’t call for Rick Perry’s handler to
step aside after he said it. She’ll be hanging with him this weekend. Do we think she wouldn’t be
calling for Olbermann’s head if HE had asked if she would be sitting on his lap during an interview?
As far as Imus and Wallace (who said it) goes—crickets.
So a little bit of reality on your part about Sarah would go a long way.
Dennis,
How much of a speaking fee do you suppose John Edwards gets?
Unless it is >$100,000, there is no comparison between the two.
John Edwards beat his cancer-stricken wife, Rheinhard.
And Sarah Palin didn’t say either “that only small town are “real America”” or “According to Bible Spice this makes them un-persons.”
Repack,
You said she and Todd and their family lived in mansion and I asked you how it is you would describe their 3,400 sf house as a mansion.
You failed to answer that simple question.
So you now make another absurd statement. What difference does it make what how much each one’s speaking fee is? You still voted for him. You still felt he was a viable candidate for President. You were still woefully slow learners to realize that he was a complete phony. We knew it right away in 2004. You guys? Mid 2009….”Oh wow, what a sleazebag. Whew. We sure did dodge a bullet there.”
“We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation.”
So, by a rather simple process of elimination,
(small town) –> “real America”, “pro-America areas”
NOT(small town) –> NOT(“real America”, “pro-America areas”)
capiche? Sarah Palin calls or a kind of regional fascism, in which pockets of “real Americans” think in lockstep, and anyone who disagrees can move out.
If I paid you a compliment, Rheinhard, and don’t take it the wrong way if I can’t come up with a plausible example right now off the top of my head, but it doesn’t mean that everyone I excluded here from paying that same compliment that it doesn’t apply to them.
You’re being silly, No. 1. And No. 2, she didn’t say what you said she did, bullshit process of elimination reasoning or otherwise.
Aren’t you some kind of scientist or something? That’s the most faulty kind of reasoning I think I’ve ever read on here save for some of the numbnuts regulars.
Ha!
Trip Truther extraordinaire Andrew Sullivan comes clean and apologizes on why he dropped the ball on John Edwards.
My John Edwards Failure
I’d think if someone as far gone as that guy is about Palin could relent on his treatment of her compared to his ignoring the John Edwards story and admit his hypocrisy, that some of you guys could too.
So far, though……crickets.
Maybe she meant that if small towns are “pro-American areas”, big cities are really super duper mega-American empires! (*winkety-wink*)
Let he who hasn’t done the wide stance in Argentina while doing public service cast the first stone?
Politically, Edwards has been shit canned. But Sanford and Craig both served/are serving out their terms like the honorable Americans they are.
Sullivan would probably still be a conservative if it wasn’t for all the wingnuttery.
Let he who hasn’t done the wide stance in Argentina while doing public service cast the first stone?
I haven’t done either, timmy. I’m casting stones and I’m asking you guys what took you so long to realize he was a piece of shit and why you gave him the benefit of the doubt and don’t have any gripes against the press who did the same and made you look foolish once again.
Politically, Edwards has been shit canned. But Sanford and Craig both served/are serving out their terms like the honorable Americans they are.
Makes no sense in the Palin vs. Edwards comparison. Edwards affair as one issue about him is minor compared to the long list of sordid details about his life the last two+ years.
Sullivan would probably still be a conservative if it wasn’t for all the wingnuttery.
There isn’t one conservative alive who wishes he’d come back. You are welcome to as much of him as you’d like, timmy. The guy is certifiably insane.
For goodness sakes amigo, it didn’t take anybody a long time to realize Edwards was a ‘piece of shit.’ The last headline I recall from this very blog regarding Edwards was ‘John Edwards: Douchebag,’ or something to that effect.
Politically he’s been done since the Enquirer story was confirmed. Maybe some of us didn’t take the Enquirer at face value, but I also don’t believe that George Bush beat his wife in a drunken rage. Broken clocks and whatnot.
And what Rhinehard said at 10:17.
When is Xena dishing out her folksy genius to the tea baggers this weekend? I hope Oliver is allowed to cover it.
Two words, Den’.
1) El
2) Nino (Kindly imagine a little ~ o’er the second n. Thank you.)
Ever hear of it?
Dude, snow in winter obviously means there is no global warming. Also, Twinkies are full of vitamin C and smoking helps you breathe better.
In the language of symbolic logic, yes, the following is indeed a false statement:
Now, everybody on this board who thinks Sarah Palin would understand the above, raise your hand.
as this place does about Citizen Sarah America.
Now see, there’s the problem right there. If unschooled folks like yourself didn’t go around promoting Ms. Palin as the Great Conservative Hope and giving her silly names like “Citizen Sarah America,” it probably wouldn’t be nearly so much fun to point out her shortcomings.
Anyway, don’t try to pretend that righty blogs don’t delight in recounting the stumbles of Edwards, Chris Dodd, or Barney Frank.
Dennis, you can’t really be serious, can you? Just a few days ago Oliver linked to an article which explained, in very, very simple terms:
warmer weather = less frozen water = more evaporation = heavier snow falls.
You guys do understand how rain/snow is made, right?
Only he is allowed to talk about this “private citizen” ad nauseam.
Making fun of her = we’re obsessed.
Constantly defending her ineptitude = hero.
Slow on the draw, Farris. Matt beat you to that jape by half a furlong.
Quibs,
Please show me an example of any conservative blog that posts one tenth as much about any one of those three people as this one does about Sarah Palin.
I’ll even amend that to say ‘collectively’. One blog that has covered all three of those guys 1/10 as much as this one does with Citizen Sarah America.
Further dusting off my decades old symbolic logic, the following IS a true statement:
Therefore in a precise mathematical sense, if A = “small towns” and B = “real America”, since what Bible Spice uneqivocably, unquestionably said in the quote I posted is “A implies B” (“small towns” implies “real-/pro- America”), then it is also necessarily true that:
So although this isn’t exactly equivalent to “people who live in big cities are unAmerican”, it certainly IS equivalent to “no-one who is unAmerican lives in these small heartland towns”. If you want to quibble semantics, that’s fine, but I’m pretty damn sure that if Obama came anywhere near such a statement implicitly disparaging over half the country, you clowns would be on it like flies on shit.
I’m asking you guys what took you so long to realize he was a piece of shit and why you gave him the benefit of the doubt
It’s really simple, Den’. It was being reported by the National Enquirer.
fafaroo,
Just curious, do you have a serious problem with what Sarah Palin did here and do you think she is a tax cheat? If so, is this worse than what Tim Geithner did. Which one do you think a liberal blog should have the greater issue with, all things being equal which is of course a silly caveat at this place but just for grins.
That silly Obama analogy, Rheinhard, what principles of logic does that follow.
You’re not very good at this, Rheinhard. I know you hate financial guys from your college days and I will admit your curriculum was far more difficult than finance, but I’m doing it as a stress release in between trades and I’m kicking you guys’ rear from here to Kingdom Come. It shouldn’t be that way but it is. I think it may be because I have more to work with than you guys do, but still, you’re grasping at straws trying to make sense out of the nonsense you said about Sarah’s small town real Americans quote.
Oh is this the tax cheat thread? I thought it was the global warming thread. My bad. I guess.
It all depends how she handles it, Dennis. How did Geithner handle it? Gethner got “busted,” if you will, by Obama’s vetting team. Apologized and paid the back taxes. Do I think he’s a tax cheat? I don’t know but he took care of the issue when it was brought to his attention.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-13-geither-questioned_N.htm
Let’s see how Palin handles it, shall we? So far what we have is Palin’s lawyer directly contradicting state tax assessors:
Perhaps it might have been better to say, “Sorry. We’ll look into it and correct the matter straight away if necessary?”
Please show me an example of any conservative blog that posts one tenth as much about any one of those three people as this one does about Sarah Palin.
OK, I will, but only if you show me a lefty blog that heaps praise on any one of the three as much as Palin received from the right.
“Citizen Sarah America”? Sheesh.
http://wizbangblog.com/fastsearch?blogs=1&query=Barney+Frank
http://wizbangblog.com/fastsearch?blogs=1&query=Chris+Dodd
http://wizbangblog.com/fastsearch?blogs=1&query=John+Edwards
Can I conclude that your opinion then is perhaps the title to this blog post implicating Palin as a tax cheat is a bit premature on the one hand, inflammatory on the other?
Oh and hey, fafaroo, OT, but it looks like whether you consider yourself either a Democrat or a liberal or both, you share the same views regarding socialism as the majority of either of those two groups….according to Gallup. Self-identified Republicans are crazy to think Obama would fall into that category, I know.
I’ll let you count up the posts at Wizbang, Dennis, but I think overly broad sweeping statements are not your friend. Unless we weren’t supposed to take you literally.
Here, fafaroo.
http://www.oliverwillis.com%3BCX:OliverWillis%252Ecom%3BL:http://www.oliverwillis.com/img/owsearch.jpg%3BLH:50%3BLC:%230000ff%3BVLC:%23663399%3B&cx=partner-pub-8071679295617797:5zurgw-b5km&adkw=AELymgU2QtStHCJ1Mp14m-c_QRfi7YRfokXfKiChsOmW9cdFOCo9y5vi3-vJnEPwkLReucgIN3RomVhRL3Kwsr8KvLkSPrFSenJN49QtxHJwzJ7dz5iIEnY&boostcse=0&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=sarah+palin&start=80&sa=N” rel=”nofollow”>The first ten pages.
There are 40 pages.
Yeah, this is my favorite Sarah Palin related post in that archive list:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/30/mongomery-county-ground-zero-for-the-maryland-uprising/
Same with this one:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/01/27/concept-art-for-green-lantern-movie/
Same with this one:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/14/rusty-depass-south-carolina-republican-activist-compares-michelle-obama-to-gorilla/
Dennis, do your own homework for once and filter out all the actual Palin posts from the ones that are there because Oliver’s site search picks up Palin wherever it appears on the page, including the comments sections.
Can you do that for us?
Jesus you’re a dolt.
Wow Dennis–is this thread not about Sarah?
Does Oliver have to pull up all his posts about Edwards after we found
out what he was? I cannot remember anyone here touting the swine once we knew.
Please, please stop the ” look over here at the shiny metal objects folk”.
You seem unable to comprehend that your girl Sarah is “all balaclava-no moose.”
John Edwards is not on any political radar but Sarah is sitting in the road with a microphone,
deer eyes and non assessed property.
And, Dennis, curious side note. Go to the post above about Rusty Depass.
Guess who mentions Sarah Palin in that comment thread first, apropos of nothing?
There isn’t one conservative alive who wishes he’d come back. You are welcome to as much of him as you’d like, timmy. The guy is certifiably insane.
Certified by who, “Dr. Sanity”? Did she certify Christopher Buckley loony as well?
Dennis, we try telling ya but you just don’t listen. The “Sarah Palin is pure and innocent because John Edwards is a screwup” defense is a lost cause.
Sheez, fafaroo, you call me a dolt because I don’t take 40 pages of Sarah Palin references on OW’s blog and filter them out for you as to your liking? Or you take the time to pick a few out of the 40 pages of hits and call me a dolt because google grabbed it but no reference was made. Just like every name you call everyone here you disagree with, including Sean D. Martin, you cheapen it when you use it so much and when it doesn’t apply.
Dilrod.
Here, though, from your list on supposed rags on John Edwards;
No, Really, It’s “You’re #1″
Would you then,
Dennisfafaroo, do your own homework for once and filter out all the actual Edwards posts from the ones that are there because Jay Tea’s site search picks up Edwards wherever it appears on the page, including the comments sections?Can you do that for us?
If not, apply your own cheapened standards and admit that you are a dolt.
Dennis. Please pay attention.
John Edwards is ACTUALLY MENTIONED IN THE ORIGINAL WIZBANG POST you linked to:
Which makes this comment:
So WILDLY STUPID I have to ask if you’re on drugs or just had a stroke or something.
That’s not now and has never been my cause, timmy. You’re the one who doesn’t listen. Asking you guys why you’re batshit insane obsessed with all things Sarah Palin is not the same thing as saying she’s pure and innocent. That’s probably a hard concept for you, but give it a try.
Sheez, fafaroo, you call me a dolt because I don’t take 40 pages of Sarah Palin references on OW’s blog and filter them out for you as to your liking?
And no Dennis, you are dolt because you presented 40 pages of Sarah Palin search hits as you metric for this claim:
This is even worse than your claim about presidential legitimacy because you actually give a specific metric: one tenth. And you can’t even back it up, or rather you thought you could, but put zero thought into what those search results actually represented. You just cut and pasted it without thinking.
I guess we weren’t supposed to take you literally?
That’s not even close to being a post about John Edwards, fafaroo, you freaking idiot.
Sorry, you’re not an idiot, you just can’t admit being wrong when you’ve called someone else a dolt for doing exactly what you just did. Not a lick of difference.
I weep for you, fafaroo.
“Sarah Palin: Tax Cheat?”
Hmmm. What’s that weird squiggly line and dot at the end of that sentence? Hey, there is again! What is that? etc.
As for the rest of it, so fucking what?
fafaroo, this one was in your list too:
And in this Corner
Why did you include it? How did anyone laugh at anything about Chris Dodd?
You have trouble living up to the same standards you apply to other people for whom you call them dolts.
You have trouble calling yourself a dolt doing the same things you called them a dolt for.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that. Liberals rarely do the same things they accuse and/or criticize others of doing. Strange.
The question mark tactic, is that what you’re defending, fafaroo?
“Oh, hey, I just asked the question. I wasn’t accusing anyone of anything.”
Please.
You’re completely incapable of feeling embarrassment at anything you say or do, aren’t you?
Yeah, the question mark tactic. It’s so much more supple than coming right out with direct statements that you cannot and have no intention or capacity to back up. You know, statements like:
“Every president has had their legitimacy questioned”
or
“Please show me an example of any conservative blog that posts one tenth as much about any one of those three people as this one does about Sarah Palin.”
or outright ignorant comments such as:
“12 inches of Global Warming is headed your way, Oliver.”
Literal statements like these are much, much stickier. Don’t you think?
It’s so much more supple than coming right out with direct statements that you cannot and have no intention or capacity to back up. You know, statements like:
Supple??? Did you just write ‘supple’?
Dennis
“That’s not now and has never been my cause, timmy. You’re the one who doesn’t listen. Asking you guys why you’re batshit insane obsessed with all things Sarah Palin is not the same thing as saying she’s pure and innocent. That’s probably a hard concept for you, but give it a try.”
says the guy who cannot resist leaving 30 replies every time o-dub makes a post. why are you so obsessed with this blog?
Do you need help with a definition?
“Oh, hey, I just asked the question. I wasn’t accusing anyone of anything.”
I believe that’s called a Cavuto, Den’.
Do you need help with a definition?
Yes, as it pertains to that sentence and just what that means, sure.
And to finish you thought, whatever it was your thought was, your whining about my sweeping generalization and your subsequent chastizing when you say:
It’s so much more supple than coming right out with direct statements that you cannot and have no intention or capacity to back up. You know, statements like:
“Every president has had their legitimacy questioned”
when Barack Obama said ““Every Economist from the Left and Right” Says Stimulus Has Saved or Created At Least Two Million Jobs
can you back him up on that? He hasn’t clarified or explained what he meant by ‘every eonomist’.
Or would you have the same words of wisdom for him that you imparted on me?
Actually, since you have such a penchant for exact precision from conservatives, here is his exact quote:
Does he have the intention or capacity to back those words up, fafaroo. Can you?
Yes, as it pertains to that sentence and just what that means, sure.
Let me get this straight. You don’t know what the word means but you just made fun of me twice for using it, once in this thread and once in the unemployment thread.
And you ask me if I ever get embarrassed for what i post here.
Unbelievable.
Allow me to educate you my dullard friend:
Supple:
# lissome: moving and bending with ease
# limber: (used of e.g. personality traits) readily adaptable; “a supple mind”; “a limber imagination”
# make pliant and flexible; “These boots are not yet suppled by frequent use”
# limber: (used of persons’ bodies) capable of moving or bending freely
In the specific usage above the first and third definitions fit best. Oliver’s use of the question mark is supple in that the meaning of the question mark is pliant and flexible, as “Is he accusing her of being a tax cheat or just raising the question? It’s hard to say because the meaning of the question mark in this context is supple.”
You really a complete tool.
Hogwash, fafaroo. Oliver wasn’t being supple at all, he was being subtle. He was accusing her of being a tax cheat to go along with his meme of her being all about the benjamins. There was no suppleness about it, and he’d be the first one to tell you that. You are a complete tool if you believe he was being supple. Or no, I’ll tell you what, I was being supple too when I said every president has had his legitimacy questioned, since I’m sure at least a few prominent people questioned every president going back to George Washington about the way they were voted in for office. I was leaving it to the reader to decide if I meant as much as or a bit less than the degree of questioning Barack Obama has received. I was being supple.
Moron.
Now, about Barack Obama’s suppleness in his use of the phrase ‘every economist’. Was this a sweeping generalization that he neither the intention nor the capacity to back up? Will you call him far worse names than you called me, seeing as how he IS the president of the United States that you guys fawn over every day for his unbelievable intelligence, or do you agree with his sweeping generalization?
Dennis,
I said it just a few days ago. She’s the Paris Hilton of politics, with a little Chauncey Gardiner mixed in. And the fascination is not just with her, but with those who are compelled to respect, revere, and protect her, regardless of her latest fine mess. Ever notice that hardly anybody picks on George Bush Sr., or even McCain? My guess is this is mostly because they’re older and wiser than Sarah – they know when to shut up and hide any folly.
So why is Sullivan certifiably insane? I always thought insanity was doing the same thing over and over again when everybody else knows it doesn’t work.
And here’s a concept for you: Batting average.
If you believe that tired maxim, timmy, why did you think it wise to repeat something you said before that had no effect one anyone?
Hogwash, fafaroo. Oliver wasn’t being supple at all, he was being subtle.
Holy fuck. Really? You really think there’s a distinction with a difference here, Dennis?
Supple is a perfectly apt word and it means exactly what I said it means in the context I was using it.
When Obama said “every economist” he probably did not literally mean every economist on the planet because it’s improbable that every economist, left or right, alive today read and commented on the plan. We can infer that he meant every economist who has commented on the plan, left or right, or that every economist he is aware of, left or right. But you cannot infer that he literally meant “every economist on the planet.”
But you’re statement was entirely different.
Every US president is a very specific set. There have only been 44 of them.
When you wrote: “Every president has had his legitimacy questioned” we have a very specific set of people to deal with. It either means EVERY FUCKING PRESIDENT or it doesn’t make any FUCKING SENSE. In other words, you either it meant it literally or you have no idea what the word literal means.
This discussion is just unfuckingbelievable.
Or no, I’ll tell you what, I was being supple too when I said every president has had his legitimacy questioned, since I’m sure at least a few prominent people questioned every president going back to George Washington about the way they were voted in for office.
See, here’s where you’re a complete idiot. If you ASSUMED your statement was accurate that means you meant it LITERALLY.
If someone asked Obama if every economist had really read the plan and commented on it, he would probably ask you what the fuck you were smoking. He and every intelligent person on the planet would be justified in laughing your dumbass out of the room.
But be that as it may, since you proceeded with the assumption that EVERY PRESIDENT has had their legitimacy questioned, you could only have meant every president has had their legitimacy questioned LITERALLY.
When you make a direct statement literal statement like that, you should be expected to back it up with LITERAL FUCKING FACTS. But you didn’t have any, got cornered and so spewed out the first dumb defense you could come up with: “I didn’t mean it literally!”
You just get dumber and dumber.
Ref retort #2: (she didn’t say what you said she did, bullshit process of elimination reasoning or otherwise).
“We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation.”
Uhhh, that’s EXACTLY what she said….
It is unfuckingbelieveable. You seem to be the one that wants to keep discussing it, though.
Obama was wrong when he said ‘every economist’, even if we infer what you said Obama was likely describing; the defined subset of economists who have commented on the plan, left or right, or that every economist he is aware of, left or right.
And you have two sets of standards, fafaroo; one for Obama’s wrong statement, and one for my general statement.
Dennis shows up at every OW Palin post to battle against almost every other commenter in Palin’s defense, entertaining some but influencing none, sane.
I repeat something once, crazy.
Why did you include it? How did anyone laugh at anything about Chris Dodd?
ARGH!!!! Dennis, you dolt, you moron, you idiot. You challenged people to find a conservative blog that “posts one tenth as much about any one of those three people as this one does about Sarah Palin.”
CHRIS DODD IS REFERENCED IN THE POST! IT’S A POST ABOUT CHRIS DODD.
Dozens and dozens and dozens of the posts that you cited as an example of Oliver’s obsession with Sarah Palin DO NOT REFERENCE SARAH PALIN AT ALL.
Palin’s name may appear in the comment sections or in the sidebar news feeds BUT NOT IN THE ACTUAL POST.
Fuckity fuck fuck fuck. You are an IDIOT!
Dennis, just to put an end to this inane shit, whatever you meant literally or figuratively in your head, your words in this thread speak for themselves:
Compare this:
to this:
Now, Dennis, that’s a subtle if significant change. From requesting evidence of any post about Dodd and the others, to only those posts that laugh at Dodd.
It think it’s pretty plain to everyone here just what a slippery, cowardly, stupid bastard you are.
Well Dennis . . . .
After commenting on exactly one third of the posts here to support Sarah
with very little help outside one shout out from Farris, I must say
you are a true believer. But Dennis–I gotta say — Sarah’s just not
that into you or anyone else who isn’t her.
something you said before that had no effect one anyone?
Hey, I liked it. But I already knew who Chauncey Gardner is.
Dennis, what the fuck are you actually arguing for?
If Obama should be held to the literal meaning of his statement then so should you. Correct?
But you seem to be arguing that neither you nor Obama should be held to the literal meaning of your statements.
If Obama is wrong, you’re fucking wrong. Same standard. Okay?
Can you please just admit now that you made a stupid, unverifiable, unprovable statement?
You are literally insane.
Like I said, amusing and sad.
Keep that E-trade account poppin!
This thread has been priceless.
You know who’s a bigger piece of shit than John Edwards?
George W. Bush.
Not even close. Not even on the same planet. You were sucked in by John Edwards and his wife once, Oliver, and you announced on here that you met both he and his wife and you could personally attest that they were both genuinely warm and great folks. You wrote very highly of him for a long time, up until he was done and through and then the news that he couldn’t deny it it any longer or blame it all on ‘tabloid trash’, only then did you turn on him. The only saving grace to your comparison is thankfully we’ll never know just how much damage to this country and to your party this guy and his enormously destructive ego would’ve done had he made it to the White House as our president.
‘The only saving grace to your comparison is thankfully we’ll never know just how much damage to this country and to your party this guy and his enormously destructive ego would’ve done had he made it to the White House as our president.’
Riiiighhhhttt…..because as the greatest President in the history of the country, George Bush spared the U.S. from any of that damage.
Fry up another PB and banana sandwich for Elvis while you’re at it.
The only saving grace to your comparison is thankfully we’ll never know just how much damage to this country and to your party this guy and his enormously destructive ego would’ve done had he made it to the White House as our president.
Whereas we know how much damage GWB did the the country and the world, which is why decent people know him as the worst president in US history.
Wasn’t the point no matter what your opinon of the job Bush did, Mike.
Edwards is still the far bigger POS of a man than Bush was, is, or ever will be. The guy beat his wife. And he talked another guy who was married to announce that he was the father of Edwards’ child. You guys thought he was a great guy, though. Yet somehow it seems you want to believe he’d have been a decent president.
Makes no sense.
Where? The Department of Also Too?
Cue the Magic Iconic Special Needs Prop!
For God’s sake, someone put pants on him first though.
How about Snowmachine Queen of the Frost Heaves?
I don’t think she would. Hell, she wouldn’t even read it.
“She’s the Paris Hilton of politics”
Sarah Palin makes Paris Hilton look like a Rhodes Scholar.
YET ANOTHER WITCH HUNT…IF SHE AND HER PARTNER HAVE PAID PROPEERTY
TAXES ON THE LAND THAT MIGHT MEAN THE SO CALLED CABINS ARE JUST
UNINHABITABLE DWELLINGS AND ARE NOT TAXABLE..
NO MATTER WHAT SARAH PALIN IS LESS CORRUPT THEN ANY ONE IN OBAMAS
ADMINISTRATION..THE LIST OF NAMES IS TO LONG TO LIST..SO LAY OFF
PALIN SHE SPEAKS FOR ME AND YOU TO IF YOUR NOT DEAF!!!!!
EVEN IF I WAS DEAF WRITING IN ALL CAPS DOESN’T MEAN I HEAR YOU LOUDER THEY ARE JUST WORDS ON THE INTERNET YOU READ THOSE WITH YOUR EYES
Even Edwards, a douchebag of a human being, would have probably been a better president than Bush II. It’s a low bar to step over… tough to be worse than one of the worst Presidents in the history of the country.
Beating your wife, having an affair, etc., is awful behavior. But it does not necessarily say anything about how he would have functioned in the role of President. Which isn’t to say that I am not glad that he failed.
You have no clue what kind of president he would have been. I don’t care what you say about Bush’s performance he had a tough 8 years with several major events well outside his control happening to him. You may not like how he handled them, but he didn’t go completely cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs like Edwards did even before it was found out that his girlfriend was pregnant. Immediately he went into denial and lying and paying people to take the blame, even recruiting big money people to help out in the coverup.
No spring chicken, it’s pretty easy to see what kind of a president he’d have been, and one far worse than Bush was no matter how you size him up.
Not even close. Even Dems know now he was always a phony and he was always lying to you and he was always a sleazebag. And I hate to even bring it up because I feel bad for her, but to listen to his wife’s voicemails she left for Andrew Young and his wife makes my skin crawl. Ladies and gentlemen, your Democratic Party. No wonder Evan Bayh decided to bail. Likes rats leaving a sinking ship.
You have no clue what kind of president he would have been.
And yet, you seem to think that you do. I’m only playing the odds. Bush was fucking terrible… the odds are that Edwards would have been better, simply because it would be extraordinarily difficult to be worse.
I don’t care what you say about Bush’s performance he had a tough 8 years with several major events well outside his control happening to him.
Yeah, poor Bush. Shame that Iraq was planning to strike us with those nuclear weapons they had. Too bad we had to invade that country.
You may not like how he handled them, but he didn’t go completely cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs like Edwards did even before it was found out that his girlfriend was pregnant. Immediately he went into denial and lying and paying people to take the blame, even recruiting big money people to help out in the coverup.
What’s worse, Dennis? Cheating on your wife and being an absolute sleazebag, or making horrible decisions that directly negatively impact the lives and deaths of thousands and thousands of people?
No spring chicken, it’s pretty easy to see what kind of a president he’d have been, and one far worse than Bush was no matter how you size him up.
Because he cheated on his wife? How does that follow? Logic fail.