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	<title>Comments on: Victoria Kennedy: Pass The Health Care Bill</title>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know? Of course not, since you&#039;re just using them as a meat shield for your political hit game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know? Of course not, since you&#8217;re just using them as a meat shield for your political hit game.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/18/victoria-kennedy-pass-the-health-care-bill/#comment-195831</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farris, I&#039;ll ask you the same question I asked Frank (he couldn&#039;t answer it). When was the last time you were right about anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farris, I&#8217;ll ask you the same question I asked Frank (he couldn&#8217;t answer it). When was the last time you were right about anything?</p>
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		<title>By: GLV</title>
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		<dc:creator>GLV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a liberal but I must admit that was good for a laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a liberal but I must admit that was good for a laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: john sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>john sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zy,did you bother to think if then Kopechne family supported any bill her killer sponsored?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zy,did you bother to think if then Kopechne family supported any bill her killer sponsored?</p>
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		<title>By: john sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/18/victoria-kennedy-pass-the-health-care-bill/#comment-195756</link>
		<dc:creator>john sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Joe, for reminding us what a great person Ted Kennedy was!   Lets lift a glass, or twelve to him, then take a few chicks for a ride over that bridge!   What a f****** hypocrite that piece of s*** was!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Joe, for reminding us what a great person Ted Kennedy was!   Lets lift a glass, or twelve to him, then take a few chicks for a ride over that bridge!   What a f****** hypocrite that piece of s*** was!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strip the mandate and leave in the reasonable stuff &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; get it through without further assaults on women&#039;s health and the President will have my support.  But IMO he just wants to look important and sign something, even if it sucks for working Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strip the mandate and leave in the reasonable stuff <i>and</i> get it through without further assaults on women&#8217;s health and the President will have my support.  But IMO he just wants to look important and sign something, even if it sucks for working Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The bill before Congress will finally deliver on the urgent needs of all Americans. It would make their lives better and do so much good for this country.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously going on the theory of &quot;If you say it long enough and loud enough, people might start believing you.&quot;  Hey, it worked for Obama in 2008  (Hope &amp; Change!!)

But fool me once...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The bill before Congress will finally deliver on the urgent needs of all Americans. It would make their lives better and do so much good for this country.</i></p>
<p>Obviously going on the theory of &#8220;If you say it long enough and loud enough, people might start believing you.&#8221;  Hey, it worked for Obama in 2008  (Hope &amp; Change!!)</p>
<p>But fool me once&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I dwell on just how bad the current HCR bill is (I know, I know, but I did take a long walk today and smelled the fresh air and hang out with friends) the more I think of a rather (by my own admission) stretched analogy:

Let&#039;s say it&#039;s the 1950&#039;s and Eisenhower (a Republican president who actually did a bit of good for the country in terms of race relations) is thinking about passing this 1957 Civil Rights legislation.  He knows it isn&#039;t great, but it&#039;s a platform that can be built upon for 1964 and what was truly a great moment in progressive American politics (Civil Rights Act).  But due to some ax-grinding and back biting but most importantly, the inability to either a) go on the road and make the case to the public or b) frame the issue from the greatest of bully pulpits, that of the presidency, the bill he actually signs is one where all Americans pay a monthly tax to all private segregated institutions.  Every &quot;Colored Water Fountain&quot; restaurant, every bus company that forced blacks to sit in the back, every corrupt county government that denied blacks the right to vote would get millions upon millions of dollars, the logic being that if those places could benefit financially even more from their corrupt practices, they would somehow manage to see the light down the road.

Yeah, it&#039;s a bit hyperbolic.  But I just don&#039;t see how the current bill (which will probably make it harder for women to get abortions as well) isn&#039;t a massive step backwards, not forwards.  So President Obama, please have the humility to kill this bill.  Focus on jobs.  You aren&#039;t going to be the progressive president known for meaningful HCR, but there are still lots of other important fights to be won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I dwell on just how bad the current HCR bill is (I know, I know, but I did take a long walk today and smelled the fresh air and hang out with friends) the more I think of a rather (by my own admission) stretched analogy:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s the 1950&#8242;s and Eisenhower (a Republican president who actually did a bit of good for the country in terms of race relations) is thinking about passing this 1957 Civil Rights legislation.  He knows it isn&#8217;t great, but it&#8217;s a platform that can be built upon for 1964 and what was truly a great moment in progressive American politics (Civil Rights Act).  But due to some ax-grinding and back biting but most importantly, the inability to either a) go on the road and make the case to the public or b) frame the issue from the greatest of bully pulpits, that of the presidency, the bill he actually signs is one where all Americans pay a monthly tax to all private segregated institutions.  Every &#8220;Colored Water Fountain&#8221; restaurant, every bus company that forced blacks to sit in the back, every corrupt county government that denied blacks the right to vote would get millions upon millions of dollars, the logic being that if those places could benefit financially even more from their corrupt practices, they would somehow manage to see the light down the road.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a bit hyperbolic.  But I just don&#8217;t see how the current bill (which will probably make it harder for women to get abortions as well) isn&#8217;t a massive step backwards, not forwards.  So President Obama, please have the humility to kill this bill.  Focus on jobs.  You aren&#8217;t going to be the progressive president known for meaningful HCR, but there are still lots of other important fights to be won.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/18/victoria-kennedy-pass-the-health-care-bill/#comment-195748</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something tells me Victoria Kennedy has never had to choose between paying her mandatory health care premium for a month or paying her rent.

Ted wouldn&#039;t have wanted this bill.  Parts of it yes, but not a stand-alone mandate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something tells me Victoria Kennedy has never had to choose between paying her mandatory health care premium for a month or paying her rent.</p>
<p>Ted wouldn&#8217;t have wanted this bill.  Parts of it yes, but not a stand-alone mandate.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Mundane</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/18/victoria-kennedy-pass-the-health-care-bill/#comment-195747</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Mundane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The bill before Congress will finally deliver on the urgent needs of all Americans. It would make their lives better and do so much good for this country.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, I do so urgently need to be fined for being unable to afford to pay money to criminal insurance companies. I need desperately to pay them  maybe 1/8th of what I&#039;m barely earning anyway for what few options they&#039;ll offer that will still leave me with a several-thousand dollar deductible, massive co-pays, and urgently necessary procedures I can&#039;t get done, even with insurance, after a credit check shows that I&#039;ve already needed to declare bankruptcy (and funny enough, I don&#039;t yet have the money to be able to afford to declare yet) over previous medical debts. I can feel my life improving already. Gloribloodyoski.

Oh, but it&#039;s okay, because even though I&#039;ll be forced to buy a broken product from a criminal company, there&#039;ll be an Exchange that, if past is prologue, Joe &quot;The Worlds Last Honest Man&quot; Lieberman will be in charge of, or failing him insurance company lobbyists meaning I get to have the choice of which specific chainsaw I want forced up my rectum. Frabjuous Day, Calloo-Callay, I chortle in such joy.

Ah, and there&#039;ll be help paying for the insurance people will be forced to buy, coming out of taxes. So, I pay money directly and pay money to the govt to pay money to other people so they as well can pay directly to the health insurance industry so they can pay fractions of what they receive back in actual medical treatment for either of us! Truly this endeavor is worthy of being labeled a great man&#039;s life&#039;s work. Hot Damn!

I tell you, mandates and exchanges and regulations and insurance-that-fingers-crossed-clap-to-tinkerbell-might-work-marginally-better-than-before, I&#039;m sure glad we have all those things instead of the actual &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;ABILITY TO GO AND SEE THE DOCTOR IF YOU NEED TO. HALLEFUCKMOTHERINGLUJAH!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The bill before Congress will finally deliver on the urgent needs of all Americans. It would make their lives better and do so much good for this country.</i></p>
<p>Yes, I do so urgently need to be fined for being unable to afford to pay money to criminal insurance companies. I need desperately to pay them  maybe 1/8th of what I&#8217;m barely earning anyway for what few options they&#8217;ll offer that will still leave me with a several-thousand dollar deductible, massive co-pays, and urgently necessary procedures I can&#8217;t get done, even with insurance, after a credit check shows that I&#8217;ve already needed to declare bankruptcy (and funny enough, I don&#8217;t yet have the money to be able to afford to declare yet) over previous medical debts. I can feel my life improving already. Gloribloodyoski.</p>
<p>Oh, but it&#8217;s okay, because even though I&#8217;ll be forced to buy a broken product from a criminal company, there&#8217;ll be an Exchange that, if past is prologue, Joe &#8220;The Worlds Last Honest Man&#8221; Lieberman will be in charge of, or failing him insurance company lobbyists meaning I get to have the choice of which specific chainsaw I want forced up my rectum. Frabjuous Day, Calloo-Callay, I chortle in such joy.</p>
<p>Ah, and there&#8217;ll be help paying for the insurance people will be forced to buy, coming out of taxes. So, I pay money directly and pay money to the govt to pay money to other people so they as well can pay directly to the health insurance industry so they can pay fractions of what they receive back in actual medical treatment for either of us! Truly this endeavor is worthy of being labeled a great man&#8217;s life&#8217;s work. Hot Damn!</p>
<p>I tell you, mandates and exchanges and regulations and insurance-that-fingers-crossed-clap-to-tinkerbell-might-work-marginally-better-than-before, I&#8217;m sure glad we have all those things instead of the actual <i><b>ABILITY TO GO AND SEE THE DOCTOR IF YOU NEED TO. HALLEFUCKMOTHERINGLUJAH!</b></i></p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I thought that when Ted Kennedy died, the conservatives would lose half of their talking points. I guess I was wrong, they won&#039;t even let his death stop them from beating a dead horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I thought that when Ted Kennedy died, the conservatives would lose half of their talking points. I guess I was wrong, they won&#8217;t even let his death stop them from beating a dead horse.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>canadian bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe, where you going with that gun in your hand ... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe, where you going with that gun in your hand &#8230; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody wave goodbye to Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody wave goodbye to Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, not blaming you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, not blaming you.</p>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted supported the Massachusetts bill so he would support this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted supported the Massachusetts bill so he would support this.</p>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/18/victoria-kennedy-pass-the-health-care-bill/#comment-195718</link>
		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Joe frees himself from any semblance of decency. Congratulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Joe frees himself from any semblance of decency. Congratulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will this bill bankrupt the country?

As Ted would say, we&#039;ll drive off that bridge when the time comes.

&quot;The Phantom Dennis&quot;

(And congratulations to Senator Kennedy. Next Friday will be four months of sobriety!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this bill bankrupt the country?</p>
<p>As Ted would say, we&#8217;ll drive off that bridge when the time comes.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Phantom Dennis&#8221;</p>
<p>(And congratulations to Senator Kennedy. Next Friday will be four months of sobriety!)</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm and why should progressives in the Senate listen to her....oh because she was married to Ted Kennedy?

I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t even think Ted would vote a yes on this bill if he was still alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm and why should progressives in the Senate listen to her&#8230;.oh because she was married to Ted Kennedy?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I don&#8217;t even think Ted would vote a yes on this bill if he was still alive.</p>
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