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	<title>Comments on: John Birch Society Sponsoring CPAC</title>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/16/john-birch-society-sponsoring-cpac/#comment-195607</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;rotter, you&#039;re proving that someone takes some nuts seriously by citing how they&#039;re taken seriously by...another nut.&quot;

Uh, no, I&#039;m proving that your claim that &quot;nobody listens&quot; to the John Birchers is b.s.  I don&#039;t consider a sitting congressman and very recent major party presidential candidate to be &quot;nobody.&quot; 

I got to take issue with Oliver, however, I seriously doubt that the JBS has supported the &quot;violent overthrow of the  government.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;rotter, you&#8217;re proving that someone takes some nuts seriously by citing how they&#8217;re taken seriously by&#8230;another nut.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no, I&#8217;m proving that your claim that &#8220;nobody listens&#8221; to the John Birchers is b.s.  I don&#8217;t consider a sitting congressman and very recent major party presidential candidate to be &#8220;nobody.&#8221; </p>
<p>I got to take issue with Oliver, however, I seriously doubt that the JBS has supported the &#8220;violent overthrow of the  government.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rotter, you&#039;re proving that someone takes some nuts seriously by citing how they&#039;re taken seriously by... another nut.

You do realize that Paul is about equivalent with Cynthia McKinney or Patrick Kennedy, right?

&quot;The Phantom Dennis&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rotter, you&#8217;re proving that someone takes some nuts seriously by citing how they&#8217;re taken seriously by&#8230; another nut.</p>
<p>You do realize that Paul is about equivalent with Cynthia McKinney or Patrick Kennedy, right?</p>
<p>&#8220;The Phantom Dennis&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;O, then report them immediately-that&#039;s a federal crime.&quot;

Where did Oliver write that he HADN&#039;T reported them?

&quot;The Birchers can be batshit crazy because NOBODY LISTENS TO THEM.&quot;

Yeah, a  &quot;nobody&quot; like congressman and 2008 major party presidential candidate Ron Paul (who has praised the Bircher&#039;s New American magazine and was one of the speakers at the JBS 50th anniversary celebration).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;O, then report them immediately-that&#8217;s a federal crime.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where did Oliver write that he HADN&#8217;T reported them?</p>
<p>&#8220;The Birchers can be batshit crazy because NOBODY LISTENS TO THEM.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, a  &#8220;nobody&#8221; like congressman and 2008 major party presidential candidate Ron Paul (who has praised the Bircher&#8217;s New American magazine and was one of the speakers at the JBS 50th anniversary celebration).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/16/john-birch-society-sponsoring-cpac/#comment-195518</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Birchers are advocating the violent overthrow of the government, O, then report them immediately -- that&#039;s a federal crime. What the hell kind of American are you that would sit on evidence that important? My god, you could be letting the next Timothy McVeigh go free!

The major difference between the Birchers and MoveOn is this: the Birchers are powerless, MoveOn holds great sway. The Birchers can be batshit crazy because NOBODY LISTENS TO THEM. MoveOn is pretty much the mainstream of their side.

It&#039;s a matter of prioritizing, O. 

&quot;The Phantom Dennis&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Birchers are advocating the violent overthrow of the government, O, then report them immediately &#8212; that&#8217;s a federal crime. What the hell kind of American are you that would sit on evidence that important? My god, you could be letting the next Timothy McVeigh go free!</p>
<p>The major difference between the Birchers and MoveOn is this: the Birchers are powerless, MoveOn holds great sway. The Birchers can be batshit crazy because NOBODY LISTENS TO THEM. MoveOn is pretty much the mainstream of their side.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of prioritizing, O. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Phantom Dennis&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birchers support violent overthrow of the government. Conservative should be ashamed to be associated with them, let alone be sponsored by them. Weren&#039;t you bitching about MoveOn a few days ago? The Birchers are a million times further out of the mainstream than MoveOn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birchers support violent overthrow of the government. Conservative should be ashamed to be associated with them, let alone be sponsored by them. Weren&#8217;t you bitching about MoveOn a few days ago? The Birchers are a million times further out of the mainstream than MoveOn.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/16/john-birch-society-sponsoring-cpac/#comment-195508</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the Birchers. They&#039;re nuts, to be sure, but at least they&#039;re harmless and entertaining.

But if anyone wants to know the full story behind this, check out Ace Of Spades:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/295956.php

Short version: a few weeks ago, GOProud -- a gay conservative group -- announced they were gonna get a booth there. GOPAC said &quot;sure, everyone&#039;s welcome if you embrace largely conservative values. We&#039;ll disagree on a lot of things, but everyone&#039;s welcome.&quot;

Then the Birchers said they wanted to go. GOPAC said &quot;See above.&quot; 

And, I&#039;m sure, made certain their checks cleared.

In other words, they&#039;re being open-minded, big-tented, non-discriminatory, and letting the attendees decide which groups are worthy of respect, letting others suitably beclown themselves, and in general being inclusive and tolerant. Ain&#039;t that what they&#039;re supposed to do?

I&#039;ll repeat: the Birchers are nuts. But they&#039;re entertaining and harmless ones, so if they wanna spend their money on this and expose their silliness to a whole bunch of people, why stop &#039;em?

I&#039;ve always thought that sunlight was the best way to handle the crazies. Let them show everybody how nuts they are so we can all laugh at them, and not get taken in. GOPAC, apparently, agrees.

Hell, might be worth attending just for the entertainment value. Imagine if GOPAC sticks GOProud and the Birchers next to each other?

&quot;The Phantom Dennis&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the Birchers. They&#8217;re nuts, to be sure, but at least they&#8217;re harmless and entertaining.</p>
<p>But if anyone wants to know the full story behind this, check out Ace Of Spades:</p>
<p><a href="http://ace.mu.nu/archives/295956.php" rel="nofollow">http://ace.mu.nu/archives/295956.php</a></p>
<p>Short version: a few weeks ago, GOProud &#8212; a gay conservative group &#8212; announced they were gonna get a booth there. GOPAC said &#8220;sure, everyone&#8217;s welcome if you embrace largely conservative values. We&#8217;ll disagree on a lot of things, but everyone&#8217;s welcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then the Birchers said they wanted to go. GOPAC said &#8220;See above.&#8221; </p>
<p>And, I&#8217;m sure, made certain their checks cleared.</p>
<p>In other words, they&#8217;re being open-minded, big-tented, non-discriminatory, and letting the attendees decide which groups are worthy of respect, letting others suitably beclown themselves, and in general being inclusive and tolerant. Ain&#8217;t that what they&#8217;re supposed to do?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll repeat: the Birchers are nuts. But they&#8217;re entertaining and harmless ones, so if they wanna spend their money on this and expose their silliness to a whole bunch of people, why stop &#8216;em?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that sunlight was the best way to handle the crazies. Let them show everybody how nuts they are so we can all laugh at them, and not get taken in. GOPAC, apparently, agrees.</p>
<p>Hell, might be worth attending just for the entertainment value. Imagine if GOPAC sticks GOProud and the Birchers next to each other?</p>
<p>&#8220;The Phantom Dennis&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: White Whale</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/16/john-birch-society-sponsoring-cpac/#comment-195483</link>
		<dc:creator>White Whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares! They actually are at CPAC which is enough to say the people allowing this nutbaggery are equally...nutty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares! They actually are at CPAC which is enough to say the people allowing this nutbaggery are equally&#8230;nutty.</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/16/john-birch-society-sponsoring-cpac/#comment-195474</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;From sponsor to cosponsor to two booths?&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Booth&quot; does not necessarily delineate a small space.  I have been to trade shows where a single company&#039;s &quot;booth&quot; needed two ZIP Codes and had its own weather forecast.  It just depends on how much they have to spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>From sponsor to cosponsor to two booths?</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Booth&#8221; does not necessarily delineate a small space.  I have been to trade shows where a single company&#8217;s &#8220;booth&#8221; needed two ZIP Codes and had its own weather forecast.  It just depends on how much they have to spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boss is one of these John Bitch Society smoothbrains.  Yesterday a listened to him yell at a secretary on the phone because he got caught speeding by an automated camera on vacation.  The best part was listening to him tell her how this is communism and communism is marching across the land...all because he got caught speeding.
I thought this country put these tards in their place after McCarthy.

He also believes:
We won the Vietnam war, because China is doing so well right now.
He knows more than medical doctors, because he has a poster of the human body on his wall.
Jesus rode dinosaurs, because the bible says so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My boss is one of these John Bitch Society smoothbrains.  Yesterday a listened to him yell at a secretary on the phone because he got caught speeding by an automated camera on vacation.  The best part was listening to him tell her how this is communism and communism is marching across the land&#8230;all because he got caught speeding.<br />
I thought this country put these tards in their place after McCarthy.</p>
<p>He also believes:<br />
We won the Vietnam war, because China is doing so well right now.<br />
He knows more than medical doctors, because he has a poster of the human body on his wall.<br />
Jesus rode dinosaurs, because the bible says so.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From sponsor to cosponsor to two booths?
What will the final representation be? A card table, and some brochures?
&quot;Tail Gunner&quot; Joe is grinning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From sponsor to cosponsor to two booths?<br />
What will the final representation be? A card table, and some brochures?<br />
&#8220;Tail Gunner&#8221; Joe is grinning.</p>
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		<title>By: brantl</title>
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		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, these assholes have bought into the birthers and then we can consolidate the nutbags and call them &quot;John Birthers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, these assholes have bought into the birthers and then we can consolidate the nutbags and call them &#8220;John Birthers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jacobus</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/16/john-birch-society-sponsoring-cpac/#comment-195454</link>
		<dc:creator>jacobus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall studying the JBS in a poli sci course in 1962 when even conservative Nebraska Republicans regarded them as a leftist today would look upon Pol Pot.  And now the JBS is only a bit off the mainstream Republican center.  Even after a nuclear winter, the cockroaches will emerge first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall studying the JBS in a poli sci course in 1962 when even conservative Nebraska Republicans regarded them as a leftist today would look upon Pol Pot.  And now the JBS is only a bit off the mainstream Republican center.  Even after a nuclear winter, the cockroaches will emerge first.</p>
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		<title>By: race42008.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Best Of Both Worlds</title>
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		<dc:creator>race42008.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Best Of Both Worlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] good public relations at the same time! Let’s start with not  allowing the John Birch Society to co-sponsor the 2010 CPAC. Then, let’s fully support the inclusion of GOProud as a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] good public relations at the same time! Let’s start with not  allowing the John Birch Society to co-sponsor the 2010 CPAC. Then, let’s fully support the inclusion of GOProud as a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Best Of Both Worlds &#124; thelobbyist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Best Of Both Worlds &#124; thelobbyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] public relations at the same time! Let&#8217;s start with not allowing the John Birch Society to co-sponsor the 2010 CPAC. Then, let&#8217;s fully support the inclusion of GOProud as a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] public relations at the same time! Let&#8217;s start with not allowing the John Birch Society to co-sponsor the 2010 CPAC. Then, let&#8217;s fully support the inclusion of GOProud as a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m sure Bill O&#039;Reilly will send his stalkerazzi producer Jesse Waters to stake out the homes of CPAC organizers...&quot;

You&#039;re more likely to see Pope Benedict in the mosh pit at a Marilyn Manson concert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sure Bill O&#8217;Reilly will send his stalkerazzi producer Jesse Waters to stake out the homes of CPAC organizers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re more likely to see Pope Benedict in the mosh pit at a Marilyn Manson concert.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Lovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand the JBS or its management, and I hate conservatives in general, but Eisenhower really was a commie.  The guy threw in for huge government that was only rivaled by, well, the USSR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand the JBS or its management, and I hate conservatives in general, but Eisenhower really was a commie.  The guy threw in for huge government that was only rivaled by, well, the USSR.</p>
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		<title>By: William N. Grigg</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/12/16/john-birch-society-sponsoring-cpac/#comment-195381</link>
		<dc:creator>William N. Grigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The JBS contingent a CPAC will be led by Jack McManus, who when not promoting the Birch Society finds plenty of spare time to propagate Fr. Leonard Feeney&#039;s anti-Semitic theology and promote the notion of an authoritarian theocracy:

http://jbsrip.blogspot.com/2009/12/they-dont-know-jack-and-if-they-did.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The JBS contingent a CPAC will be led by Jack McManus, who when not promoting the Birch Society finds plenty of spare time to propagate Fr. Leonard Feeney&#8217;s anti-Semitic theology and promote the notion of an authoritarian theocracy:</p>
<p><a href="http://jbsrip.blogspot.com/2009/12/they-dont-know-jack-and-if-they-did.html" rel="nofollow">http://jbsrip.blogspot.com/2009/12/they-dont-know-jack-and-if-they-did.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Parsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie Parsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto. Ditto. And watch the MSM slobber at the mouth and crawl all over them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto. Ditto. And watch the MSM slobber at the mouth and crawl all over them.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrob</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been long overdue.  CPAC and the Birchers are a natural fit.

What really should be alarming is that the Birchers are a) still around and b) have enough dough to cosponsor anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been long overdue.  CPAC and the Birchers are a natural fit.</p>
<p>What really should be alarming is that the Birchers are a) still around and b) have enough dough to cosponsor anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Bill O&#039;Reilly will send his stalkerazzi producer Jesse Watters to stake out the homes of CPAC organizers to demand they account for accepting sponsorship from such a hateful and manifestly crazy organization; just like he excoriated the CEO of JetBlue airlines for being a corporate sponsor of the YearlyKos convention 2 years ago.

... but I won&#039;t hold my breath waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Bill O&#8217;Reilly will send his stalkerazzi producer Jesse Watters to stake out the homes of CPAC organizers to demand they account for accepting sponsorship from such a hateful and manifestly crazy organization; just like he excoriated the CEO of JetBlue airlines for being a corporate sponsor of the YearlyKos convention 2 years ago.</p>
<p>&#8230; but I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting.</p>
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