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9:14 pm EST December 14th, 2009 | Media | 102 Comments

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102 Responses to “VIDEO: Keith Olbermann Explains The “Liberal Media” Bias”

  1. Pryme says:

    One of his best non-”Special Comments” ever. Certainly something to show those who keep complaining about a liberal bias in the media.

  2. Jody says:

    Bartcop citation. Booyah.

  3. Connie says:

    You go bouy! ‘Nuff said!

  4. MrGreyGhost says:

    This from a guy who doesn’t even have the balls to debate conservatives on his show….self-absorbed prick.

  5. The Dark Avenger says:

    Well, Mr. Half-tone spirit, for the record it’s not that he won’t debate any conservatives, rather, it’s that nobody who is conservative has the balls to go on his show and debate him.

    And he was made fun of by SNL?

    On that ground, Sarah Palin, who was made fun of on SNL, shouldn’t be eligible for any office of trust or profit above the level of the local animal control officer.

    BTW, this ‘self-absorbed prick’ has rarely, but on occasion, apologized for stuff that was inaccurate or in bad taste on his show, it’s those other ‘self-absorbed pricks’ who find it impossible to concede that they ever made a mistake on ClusterFaux or elsewhere, just like our conservative trolls on this blog who voted for Bush but blame everything wrong with this country from the adultery of Tiger Woods to zoo fires on Obama.

    By the way, name-calling suits you, soon you’ll be as reasonable as Frankie”It’s okay for priests to abuse children, they aren’t the only ones on Earth to do so”DiSalle, Dennis”I can’t start my own blog because……..”, Joe “I’ll show you what a real prick acts like” Ignoramus/Anonymus, etc.

  6. Dennis says:

    Only an idiot could defend this clown and his 4th grade-level smart-aleck imitations, Dark Avenger.

  7. Dennis says:

    This is what Dark Avenger gets when he watches this clown:

    Keyword searches from Countdown transcripts for the week Dec.7-Dec.11:

    Tiger 160
    Health care 68
    Palin 59
    Afghanistan 27
    Bush 21
    Beck 19
    Fox News 14
    Economy 13
    RW/Far right 9
    Cheney 2
    Limbaugh 2
    Unemployment 2
    Dobbs 1
    Climategate 1
    Iran 0
    Pah-ki-stahn 0
    LW/ far left 0
    ——–

    Dark Avenger just can’t fathom why anyone would make fun of this nutcase. It’s just not fair.

    “Please leave Keith alone.”

  8. Joe Anonymous says:

    Shorter Olberdouche:

    “Conservatives should content themselves to have talk radio and a single TV network, and not whine about the liberals having the major broadcast TV networks, the rest of cable TV, NPR, the majority of newspaper columnists, the majority of newspapers (you can identify them readily — they’re the ones who are usually failing the fastest), and the wire services.”

    Did I miss any of Olberdouche’s talking points? Talk radio, Fox News (with Fox Business as a subset), and newspaper columnists?

    When conservatives can reliably count on media operations as powerful as the NYT, AP, Reuters, NPR, CNN, MSNBC (has anyone told Olberdouche how astonishingly lily-white his network is? Where are the minorities, Keith?), then Olberdouche and MMFA might have grounds to bitch. Until then, it’s all motes and beams.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  9. jrfunkenstein says:

    While Olbermann is one of the few Liberal voices on MSM, he will continue to be the focal point for Conservative ire because they don’t have a complete stranglehold on the media.

    O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Malkin and a host of other Right wing commentators flood the airwaves with their opinions, but the likes of Olbermann and Maddow face an onslaught of criticism for daring to espouse their views that do not conform to an ultra Conservative agenda.

    Like it or not, there are people who agree with those who represent both sides of the political spectrum.

    The Right hates the Left and the Left hates the Right; who is surprised by this?

  10. jr says:

    Keith did a good job against the victim class

  11. Dennis says:

    The perfect example of a non sequitor, is what it was, jr.

    Of course liberals will cite the usual refrain for Keith….

    “Best One Ever!”

    Except for more gray hair and his head being 10 pounds heavier, he could’ve done this segment five years ago and played the video tape last night and no one would’ve known the difference.

  12. locus says:

    Dennis noted, “…he could’ve done this segment five years ago and played the video tape last night and no one would’ve known the difference.”

    I’m glad you agree that, at least for the last five years, conservatives have had plenty of voices in the media.

    …and the point goes to Olbermann!

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  14. Indeed says:

    A good example of a “non sequitor” would be to dismiss the substance of Mr. Olbermann’s essay and instead note how many times he’s said “Tiger” over the past week, and then insist that this somehow invalidates Mr. Olbermann’s point(s). The Kids sometimes call this a “Straw Man” argument.

    Another good example of a “non sequitor” would be to dismiss the substance of Mr. Olbermann’s essay and instead make fun of his appearance. The Kids like to call that an “Ad Hominem” or “Total Fucking Douche-bag” argument.

  15. Dennis says:

    I make a comment or two and suddenly Indeed has a new lease on life.

    No argument to speak of, though, but now a reason for him to get out of bed in the morning and fire up the computer.

  16. Parthenon says:

    I sometimes wonder how many conservatives realize that the victim underdog narrative of theirs is a deliberate work-the-refs strategy and how many legitimately believe it to be so.

  17. Indeed says:

    Non sequitor!

  18. Indeed says:

    Adding: A “non sequitor” is also known in some circles as a “Look Over There” argument. This happens all too often in blog comments, most frequently by Right Wing Assholes who are unable to address the issues at hand (in this case, Mr. Olbermann’s case against Right Wing Assholes Limbaugh, Beck, et al and the phogna bologna notion of a “Liberal Media” and the trumped-up victimization therein).

    Furthermore, “Irony” would be if, for example, a Douche-bag Troll, notable for their near incessant use of the “Look Over There” form of illogical argument, would accuse another blog commenter, incorrectly, of using a “non sequitor”.

  19. Joe Anonymous says:

    Parthenon, a lot of us don’t go looking for it. Hell, most of the time we shrug it off. It’s when it gets too flagrant, too in-our-face, too blatant that we feel compelled to point out the obvious.

    Case in point: this video has probably been seen by more people here on O’s site than caught it live. I’d be perfectly content if I never encountered Olberdouche ever again — I don’t need to watch him to get my daily fix of outrage.

    It wasn’t until that his pedantic drivel was being held up as a spittle-swathed stroke of brilliant insight that I had the least bit of interest in what he had to say — and then only to confirm that he’s still a delusional, pompous, arrogant prick.

    On a network full of lily-white delusional, pompous, arrogant pricks. MSNBC’s really embracing the diversity, ain’t they?

    I still think the best summation of Keith Olbermann was the observation about his Sarah Palin fixation — he gets his panties in a wad mostly because he can’t sneeringly call her “sir.”

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  20. Joe Anonymous says:

    Dennis, indeed, I hate to interrupt your little make-out session, but the pedant in me is screaming:

    It’s “non sequitur!” With a “u” at the end.

    Latin, “does not follow.”

    Get it right, will ya?

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  21. Jaim says:

    Dennis, please get a job. A real one. Not e-bay or e-trade.

  22. Indeed says:

    Oh, it must be so difficult being you, Joe. All of those Big Meanies who won’t leave the Poor Man’s Darva Conger alone. Oh, the inhumanity!

    Here are some suggestions which may help you cope:

    –Sit down in the nearest available sitting area. A comfy couch or chair or day bed is ideal.
    –You may experience a hot flash. Be sure to have a folding fan on your person at all times, easily accessible and deployable when the The Left issues more scurrilous charges and triggers an Episode.
    –Stop watching these videos.
    –Stop visiting websites such as O-Dub’s, despite the fact that Mr. Willis controls the entire Medias with his awesome blog.
    –Fix yourself a cup of herbal tea (chamomile is a good one). Lemon and honey may help too.
    –Play some of your old Kenny G tapes on your Hi-Fi system.
    –Curl up with a good book. Some of your ilk prefer “100 People Who Are Screwing Up America” by the noted scholar Bernard Goldberg. It’s inspirational!

  23. The Dark Avenger says:

    You’re the one shrieking and clutching your pearls, Dennis, it seems to me that Olbermann gets under your skin more than you’d like to admit.

    Why don’t you do a comparison of O’Leilly’s show transcripts for the same week and show us what that reveal as well.

    he could’ve done this segment five years ago and played the video tape last night and no one would’ve known the difference.

    Except that back then, Lou Dobbs had a TV show too, Beck hadn’t gone gonzo yet, and your point is?

    As for Olbermann, he doesn’t lie like a rug on the air the way O’Lielly, Ace of Liars does:

    On the June 9 edition of Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor, host Bill O’Reilly falsely claimed that it is “a lie” that he “called George Tiller ‘Dr. Killer’ while covering his murder last week.” O’Reilly made the claim while criticizing a San Francisco Chronicle article that reported his reference to “Dr. Killer.” He then added: “Transcripts prove what reporter Joe Garofoli was false.” In fact, as video of the June 2 edition of his program shows, O’Reilly did refer to Tiller as “Dr. Killer.” On June 2, O’Reilly stated: “[I]n order to terminate a life, that has to be catastrophic. And I think it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, in Dr. Killer’s case, that wasn’t what he was doing.” Guest Patricia Ireland, former president of the National Organization of Women, then remarked: “You call him Dr. Killer, and he was murdered.”

    As Media Matters for America has documented, O’Reilly previously falsely claimed that he only “reported” anti-abortion groups referring to Tiller as “Tiller the baby killer.”

    From the June 2 edition of Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor:

    O’REILLY: Well, in order to terminate a life –

    IRELAND: The fact that Dr. Tiller was murdered is –

    O’REILLY: In order to terminate a life, that has to be catastrophic. And I think it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, in Dr. Killer’s case, that wasn’t what he was doing. But Ms. Ireland, we appreciate you coming him on.

    IRELAND: You call him Dr. Killer, and he was murdered. And I think that that is –

    O’REILLY: He was murdered.

    IRELAND: — just outrageous.

    O’REILLY: And so do I. I agree 100 percent with you. It cannot happen in America. Thank you for appearing tonight.

    Link

    As for your crack about his weight and hair, are you telling us it couldn’t be said for any of the Faux Snews men reporters and commentators as well?

    Please, Dennis, if you keep cruising schoolyards merely to come up with new insults to post here, they’ll mistake your intentions and perhaps tazer your ass someday to keep the public safe from a potential pedophile looking for his latest victim.

    When you’re lying on the ground in agony, you’ll be thinking to yourself, “Was it really worth it?”

    Aside from that, here’s a rebuttal to your puerile transcript analysis for a given week when I think all but the most political-junkie-insider news programs were devoting time to Tiger Wood over other issues of the day:

    BROOKE GLADSTONE: This is On the Media. I’m Brooke Gladstone.

    BOB GARFIELD: And, I’m Bob Garfield. FOX News’ O’Reilly Factor has many claims to fame, among them, its notorious ambush interviews. That’s when a young producer stalks someone who has refused to come on the show, though some victims say they were never asked, and then descends on him in a semipublic place with a camera crew.

    Recently, some media watchers have noticed a surprising trend among O’Reilly’s targets. They’re all pretty obscure. Writing in The New York Times, Brian Stelter named a few of the relatively small fish that have been caught recently in O’Reilly’s net. There was Mike Hoyt, editor of The Columbia Journalism Review, circulation, 20,000? There was Hendrik Hertzberg, a New Yorker staff writer who’s not quite a household name.

    And then there was the ambush of a relatively unknown blogger named Amanda Terkel.

    [CLIP]:

    JESSE WATTERS: Did you actually ever hear the Radio Factor segment in question?

    AMANDA TERKEL: Yes.

    JESSE WATTERS: So what was the Mel Gibson component to Bill’s analysis?

    AMANDA TERKEL: I don’t believe I highlighted the Mel Gibson component.

    JESSE WATTERS: Do you know what the Mel Gibson component was?

    AMANDA TERKEL: No.

    JESSE WATTERS: Why not?

    AMANDA TERKEL: Because I didn’t highlight it.

    JESSE WATTERS: ‘Cause you didn’t hear it, did you, because you’re just dishonest.

    [END CLIP]

    BOB GARFIELD: But if today The O’Reilly Factor can lay claim to the title of Ambush Central, it certainly didn’t invent the technique. For that, most people put the credit, or perhaps the blame, on CBS’s 60 Minutes, and specifically, Mike Wallace.

    [CLIP]:

    MIKE WALLACE: Come on out.

    MAN: No. Just – just -

    MIKE WALLACE: You don’t want to talk to me? Why are you so reluctant? Why are you so reluctant?

    MAN: You better get over here, Mike. You want to just get right over here.

    MIKE WALLACE: I don’t understand. They must be ashamed of somethin’!

    [END CLIP]

    BOB GARFIELD: According to John Cook, investigations editor for the media gossip site Gawker, there is a significant difference between today’s ambushes and the ambushes of yore.

    ………………………….

    BOB GARFIELD: That’s John Cook of Gawker. He decided to have another go at ambushing Jesse Watters, so we sent OTM producer PJ Vogt to go along for the ride. Okay, PJ, what happened?

    PJ VOGT: Well, we got up at 4 o’clock in the morning and we drove from Brooklyn. It was me, John Cook and Gawkers’ video guy, Richard Blakeley. I actually recorded it, so I can let John set the scene.

    JOHN COOK: We’re in Huntington, New York and we’re parked outside Jesse Watters’ house. It’s 7: 17 a.m. on a Saturday, and Jesse’s car is here and his garage door is open, which is a very encouraging sign.

    PJ VOGT: When we first got there we were really excited because the garage door was open, so we immediately had this theory that Jesse and his wife Noelle, that they had left it open because they were packing the car or something and they were going to come out any minute. And we sat there for almost three more hours. We were in this big black SUV with tinted windows, which [BOB LAUGHS] John had [LAUGHS] rented because he thought it was less conspicuous than his regular car.

    Complete Transcript

    Here’s a link to some handy tips on dealing with O’Leilly’s minions.

    Would you like an oyster fork with that, m*****f*****?

  24. Joe Anonymous says:

    You’re the one shrieking and clutching your pearls, Dennis, it seems to me that Olbermann gets under your skin more than you’d like to admit.

    Why don’t you do a comparison of O’Leilly’s show transcripts for the same week and show us what that reveal as well.

    Non sequitur indeed, Dark.

    We were discussing Olberdouche, not O’Reilly. One not be a champion of one to mock the other.

    For example, I find O’Reilly a crashing bore. Olberdouche, though, I find contemptible.

    Why can’t you discuss Olberdouche in and of himself, without instead trying to change the subject to O’Reilly? Is that your way of saying “Yeah, Olberdouche is an indefensible asshole, but LOOK OVER THERE AT ANOTHER ONE!!!!”

    Nice try, but even the East German judge didn’t buy it.

    Pry that oyster fork out of your asshole and try again.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  25. can reliably count on media operations as powerful as the NYT
    The way Bush was able to rely on the NYT to carry his Iraq War water on the front page, numerous times, in order to make the case for war on a giant crap pile of BS.

  26. Joe Anonymous says:

    Like Timothy McVeigh, you’re counting, essentially, a single datum point.

    The Times spent YEARS undermining the War On Terror, O, and you know it — including repeatedly exposing highly sensitive information that put people’s lives at risk.

    For example, publishing the name and home town of the most successful interrogator of terrorists — who did NOT use “coercive measures” in extracting information.

    Or publishing the ID numbers of CIA planes used to transport prisoners.

    Or buying whole hog into the Haditha “massacre” story that fell apart once the facts started emerging.

    Or… well, there are countless more examples. Those are just the first three that come to mind.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  27. Dennis says:

    Jaim, dude, your job description includes cleaning up kindergarten vomit.

  28. Quaker in a Basement says:

    Or buying whole hog into the Haditha “massacre” story that fell apart once the facts started emerging.

    You mean all those Iraqi civilians weren’t killed? That’s great news!

  29. Quaker in a Basement says:

    Parthy, I whenever conservatives play the liberal bias card, I’m always reminded of pro wrasslin’ when the “heel” complains to the ref that the “face” is cheating.

  30. Marco says:

    Conservatives here upset over a Keith. Hilarious. Awesome.

    Sorry his pointing out that we hear form you bloodfarts on a daily basis upsets you so much.

  31. Joe Anonymous says:

    It wasn’t cold-blooded murder, QB… although Jack Murtha hasn’t admitted that yet.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  32. Quaker in a Basement says:

    It wasn’t cold-blooded murder, QB…

    I see. They were defending themselves against the two-year old girl?

  33. Dennis says:

    Our current Secretary of State and Vice President did far more water-carrying than the NYT did, Oliver. Perhaps that’s why they didn’t mind reporting it the way they did. It certainly wasn’t for their inherent love for the Republican president in office at the time.

  34. The Dark Avenger says:

    Non sequitur indeed, Dark.

    Actually, I knew how to spell the phrase before Dennis mangled it, and, again, your point is?

    We were discussing Olberdouche, not O’Reilly. One not be a champion of one to mock the other.

    Indeed, Joe, I made some claims about Olbermann, or as my wife calls him, “That old man” which Dennis didn’t address in his remarks.

    You should be aware that keyword analysis of a weeks worth of transcripts isn’t irrefutable proof that Olbermann shouldn’t be taken seriously.

    He preferred to use puerile insults instead of reason and/or facts, such as you’ve just demonstrated in your “rush” to defend him.

    With friends like you, why is Dennis so mad at all us anti-American liberals who praise someone who isn’t a plaster saint, someone who, unlike O’Lielly, doesn’t appear on a “news network” that claims to be ‘fair and balanced’?

    For example, I find O’Reilly a crashing bore. Olberdouche, though, I find contemptible.

    Using Olberdouche is such a manly way of referring to him, it really makes your case or suggests that you’ve recently been traveling on the Raging Queen.

    Why can’t you discuss Olberdouche in and of himself, without instead trying to change the subject to O’Reilly?

    I did in the beginning, and do you find any mention, implicit or explicit of O’Leilly here?

    Well, Mr. Half-tone spirit, for the record it’s not that he won’t debate any conservatives, rather, it’s that nobody who is conservative has the balls to go on his show and debate him.

    And he was made fun of by SNL?

    On that ground, Sarah Palin, who was made fun of on SNL, shouldn’t be eligible for any office of trust or profit above the level of the local animal control officer.

    Is that your way of saying “Yeah, Olberdouche is an indefensible asshole, but LOOK OVER THERE AT ANOTHER ONE!!!!”

    Which is what suggesting that Olbermann is a chickenshit coward who doesn’t have anyone conservative on because he’s afraid of them, or that the SNL sketch ipso facto seals the verdict of indefensible assholery, to the extend that Olbermann was able to appreciate it like the rest of us in the reality-based community:

    “He’s the first person I know who’s ever done an impression of me,” Keith said back, “because apparently I don’t have anything you can do an impression of….Walter Matthau once told me he hated me personally and loved my work because he could not do an impression of me.”

    Olbermann went on to tell Martha that he was “flattered” by the selection of Affleck to do the impression of him.

    Pry that oyster fork out of your asshole and try again.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

    Watch the Olbermann segment from Crooks and Liars, you might be able to understand where I’m coming from, The PuD.

  35. Dennis says:

    Olbermann doesn’t upset anyone here, Marco. It’s always a joy to read liberals’ fondness for this guy who they feel gives them a voice- as if without him they would have none; who speaks truth to power; and for whose previous speech is always ‘his best one ever’.

  36. Quaker in a Basement says:

    Was it 3-year-old Aisha or 4-year-old Abdullah who weren’t victims of murder?

  37. Marco says:

    Right. I take it you agree with KO’s point here?

  38. Dennis says:

    Well, Mr. Half-tone spirit, for the record it’s not that he won’t debate any conservatives, rather, it’s that nobody who is conservative has the balls to go on his show and debate him.
    –Dark Avenger

    Dark Avenger, can you back up this statement with any evidence whatsoever?

    Perhaps with invites that Olbermann has extended to any conservatives in which they’ve declined. Or possibly quotes of his where he has stated it to be the case that all conservatives are afraid to debate him.

    Anything at all? Or were you just throwing bullshit on the wall to see if anything would stick or that no one would call you out on it?

  39. The Dark Avenger says:

    Yes, conservatives never engage in brown-nosing, Dennis, that much is true:

    It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can’t get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile.

    Would you like someone to get a little cheese for your whine?

  40. Dennis says:

    That’s there’s no liberal media bias because he can name some conservative individuals that have radio shows or write columns or appear on Fox News?

    No, Marco, I don’t think I could agree with that ridiculous assertion. Like I said, he could’ve said the same thing about the same people 5 years ago. In fact, he was. Why this is treated as something fresh and intuitive by the regulars here is no mystery, but in essence, it’s the same old fishwrap Olbermann gets off on. Throwing his audience their bone instead of another Tiger Woods report.

    He’s no more than the video version of the Huffington Post and he’s just trying to survive. He honestly feels that if his show fails, democracy loses.

  41. The Dark Avenger says:

    Uh, Dennis, go ahead and demonstrate at least one case where Olbermann turned down a conservative who asked to be on his show, and that said turning down was demonstrateably due to cowardice on Olbermanns’ part.

    In other words, put up or shut up, unless all you really intend to do is pathetically fling mud because you’re too stupid to do more than troll someone else’s website when you’re in a bad mood.

    Better trolls, plz.

  42. Joe Anonymous says:

    I see you’re happily running down the diversion trail, QB, but let me get a smidgen pedantic on you — because obviously you’re letting your PITA tendencies and political biases get ahead of your education.

    It ain’t murder until there’s a conviction of murder.

    It ain’t murder unless there’s intent.

    And not all killings are murders.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  43. Dennis says:

    Your very first statement on this thread was a blatant lie, Dark Avenger, and you know it. And now you resort to idiotic links to digby and C&L and long, meandering, pointless diatribes in hopes that the lie gets lost or overlooked.

    You made the statement, dude. You back it up.

    You won’t because you can’t.

  44. Indeed says:

    And if there’s one thing Dennis is known for in these precincts, it’s providing evidence. Why just in this thread, Dennis told us why, specifically, Mr. Olbermann’s essay was so very wrong: Olbermann mentioned Tiger Woods a lot in the past week and his hair appears to be grayer than it was five years ago. Now who can argue with that?

  45. Indeed says:

    It ain’t murder until there’s a conviction of murder.

    So OJ did not, repeat DID NOT, murder anyone. At least not according to the logically flawless Joe Anonymous. Good to know. Thanks for clearing that up, Dr. Logic.

  46. Dennis says:

    Yes, Sock Puppet Indeed, apparently Tiger Wood’s infidelity was 160 times more important to Herr Olbermann than John Edwards’ was.

    Funny that, huh? A guy with nothing to do with politics at all and a guy who was a Vice Presidential running mate 5 years ago and considered for the same post just a year ago. 160 for Woods, barely anything for the former VP candidate who has the love child.

    Yeah, Olby’s a serious journalist, all right.

    He speaks truth to power, that guy does.

  47. Joe Anonymous says:

    Amazing. Indeed actually got it right.

    OJ Simpson is NOT a murderer, because he was acquitted of murder.

    He’s a killer and a scumbag, but legally he’s not a murderer.

    It’s called “reality,” Indeed. Welcome to it.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  48. Marco says:

    Right, Dennis. All those conservative voices in the media prove a horrific left wing bias in the media.

    I’m so glad you’re here, because it’s almost impossible to get a conservative point of view these days.

  49. Indeed says:

    And that proves that Mr. Olbermann’s essay was so very, very wrong, because, um, Tiger Woods was mentioned a lot this week. Now that’s evidence! I believe The Kids like to call that the “Michael Moore is Fat” argument, also known as “The Total Fucking Idiot” argument.

    (Also, I don’t think “Sock Puppet” means what you apparently think it means. Still.)

  50. Marco says:

    Paging Liz Cheney.

  51. Indeed says:

    Natural causes. People just explode self-Pez.

  52. Dennis says:

    Conservative voices in the media, yes, Marco. No one is denying that. Conservative voices in the MSM, not so much. That’s why Olby’s argument is his usual idiocy. You can dress it up and glorify it and point to it as something to be admired, but his argument and his examples don’t make sense to anyone except his loyal followers who never question his ways under any circumstances anyway. Yourself included.

  53. mambochicken23 says:

    Why did you come back, Dennis? It was more pleasant around here without you.

  54. Dennis says:

    A few Tiger Woods mentions is one thing, 160 in one week is quite another. The guy is prone to his bizarre obsessions and somehow he makes what is supposed to be a political news show into a variety show on the order of The Smothers Brothers and The Carol Burnette show. And I do know what a sock puppet is and you are one despite denying that you used to post under a different identity.

  55. fafaroo says:

    You really spent your time counting the key words in Olberman’s show? Oh, right. Of course, not. You just cut and pasted it from another conservative hack without citation. How original of you.

    I’d say welcome back, Dennis, but I would have hoped you had used your down time to rehearse a new act. Apparently not.

  56. Dennis says:

    The better question is why did you get special treatment despite being just as much the instigator, Spring Chicken the Younger?

    Was it because you whined the loudest when you got your feelings hurt?

  57. Dennis says:

    Nice to be missed, fafaroo. Felt bad for you and Indeed in a way. I see you guys were still lurking despite barely posting because as soon as I post a couple points here you guys are back in action like you never missed a step. I find it touching I play such a key role in your lives.

  58. fafaroo says:

    Same old Dennis.

  59. Joe Anonymous says:

    It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can’t get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile.

    It took some digging to find the exact quotation, Dim, but here it is:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2005/07/011024.php

    And here’s the update:

    UPDATE: Of all the thousands of posts we have done over the years, this one seems to most outrage the Left, I suppose because it is so at odds with liberals’ cherished illusions about President Bush. The tone of the post is obviously tongue in cheek, but liberals never seem to notice. They are, to put it charitably, not big on nuance. More important, I’ve never seen a liberal respond to, let alone rebut, the point of the post…

    Hinderaker wrote his piece with his tongue in his cheek. You read it, apparently, with your tongue between Olbermann’s cheeks.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  60. Rex Mundane says:

    My Opinion Also Requires Validation!

    Just wanting to point out something said not yet often enough about the disconnect between Conservatives complaining about being silenced and yet not only having numerous voices and avenues to express it, but talking about how popular that voice is. A point I feel expressed best by UK comedian Charlie Brooker:

    “In terms of Raw Drama, the Fair and Balanced newsmen of dystopian future sci-fi satirical shouty-porn sledgehammer channel Fox News win out every time. Fox generally leans more to the right than a man whose had his leg blown off, and now that Obama’s in the White House their commentators are getting to play the underdogs at last. Although it’s a curious kind of under-doggery where they complain about liberal bias in the media one moment, and brag about their cable dominance the next.”

  61. Marco says:

    Really, conservative voices in the MSM = not so much? Really? No justice, no peace until Carrie Prejean and Ross Douthat co-anchor the nightly news, huh?

    I’ll never understand why do tough-talking conservative “DIY” folks constantly demand a public coddling of their views.

    If makes you feel better, carry on with your “Marco luvs KO” fantasy Den. least you’re not obsessing over my age today. For that I am grateful.

  62. Dennis says:

    If you know me so well, why do you accuse accuse other posters who bear no resemblance to me of being me in disguise, fafaroo?

    You’re a strange one, to be sure.

  63. Marco says:

    Yup, we don’t the mastery of Hindy. You’re so right.

  64. mambochicken23 says:

    There you go again. You’re obnoxious and tiring, Dennis.

    Every time you posted, you would throw around ad hominem attacks and off-topic bullshit. You deflected, insulted, and generally acted like a brat. I do not claim to be perfect, as I have engaged in personal attacks as well, and will almost certainly do it again. However, I also take the time to post reasonable and thoughtful commentary every once in a while, laying down my battle sword in the interest of actually having a discussion.

    So no. No more false equivalence. You seem to be unable to address people here without insulting them because of their relative youth, their education, their job descriptions, or other ill-conceived platforms for which they ought to be ashamed (in your eyes). I made that case to Oliver and to the posters here at large, and apparently OW agreed with me. I’m just sorry he let you back in.

    You’ve demonstrated that you’re nothing but a clown, and I personally think that everyone would here would be better off without you around. If you have any sense of decency, go away. Or maybe stop being a troll.

    I’m not holding my breath.

  65. Quaker in a Basement says:

    but let me get a smidgen pedantic on you

    Why? Can’t answer the question? Was it the 3-year-old or the 4-year-old that posed a threat?

  66. Dennis says:

    Just where have you made any kind of a thoughtful argument on this thread, Spring Chicken? I don’t see one sentence of yours that has anything to do with the topic, but maybe I’m missing something you’ve written because I know you’d never misrepresent yourself.

  67. mambochicken23 says:

    Deflect, obscure, and misrepresent others’ words. Your playbook, Dennis.

    I didn’t say that I posted a thoughtful, on-topic argument on this thread. I said that I do so on this blog. On this particular thread, I have addressed your failings as a commenter. Of which you have many, with few strengths to balance them.

    Go away.

  68. Dennis says:

    You know what, Spring Chicken, you’re now 0-3 for being on topic, and 3-0 for ad hominem attacks in which you were the instigator again.

    Perhaps its you that should go away this time.

  69. Patrick says:

    I’m pretty sure they all say conservatives have no voice in “MAINSTREAM Media”.. and I’m pretty sure they’re all correct.

    The video wasn’t a total waste though. I got a chuckle out of his idiotic impersonations.

  70. mambochicken23 says:

    There’s a difference between remarking on someone being a terrible commenter who obscures and deflects with regularity, and being someone who continually makes up stupid nicknames for other commenters and continually makes insulting comments about others’ livelihoods, youth, etc. That you do not understand this does not surprise me.

    As for the initial thread topic: Olbermann is 100% right.

  71. fafaroo says:

    Or… well, there are countless more examples. Those are just the first three that come to mind.

    Joe, you’re talking about reporting you don’t like based on spin you do. None of the examples you cite represent an explicit “liberal bias” unless you want to try to spin it that way. It isn’t “liberal bias” to report information that you don’t think should be reported. It’s what reporters do all the time. Indeed, it’s what reporters should be doing to tell important stories. A reporter getting something wrong isn’t automatically “liberal bias” either. Unless you convince yourself that the reporter deliberately lied to advance a political agenda. You have no evidence that has occurred in any of the examples you cite, do you?

    Do you have any evidence that the NY Times news desk has a stated agenda to “undermine the war on terror”?

    I, personally, would like to know how our government is conducting itself in the prosecution of wars and if it’s doing something it shouldn’t be doing, like torturing people, that’s an important story.

    It isn’t “liberal bias” to report the facts. If critics of the war took up those facts to build a case against the Bush administration, that doesn’t mean the reporters themselves were “in on it.”

    All you’ve done is push yet another right wing conspiracy theory.

    Olberman pointed all of the SELF-DECLARED conservatives in the media, with national audiences, who spend a lot of time screaming about how there are no conservative voices in the media.

    Of course, conservative media firgures spend a lot of time bitching about how there are no conservatives in the media because its central to the myth of their victimhood/martyrdom. It also helps them spin their actual, provable lies to their audiences: “We’re telling you all about the death panels in the health care bill because the liberal MSM won’t!”

    The reason why no one but conservative hacks were screaming about “death panels” is because there was no such language in the bill that would have established any such thing.

    It was a lie initiated and pushed by the right wing media and they were successful in getting real and necessary provisions for end of life care struck from the bill while freaking out a bunch of senior citizens.

    By the time the so-called “liberal media” started actually, you know, reporting the truth about the bill, the damage had already been done.

    Even if the NYTimes had moved its ass to report on what was in the bill at the time Palin first coined the phrase, you would have dismissed the actual truth as “the liberal media running cover for Obama who wants to kill my grand parents.”

    Why? Because that’s what guys like Sean Hannity told you to think.

  72. Zython says:

    Jaim, dude, your job description includes cleaning up kindergarten vomit.

    Dennis, I just have one thing to say to you: IF you were to die tomorrow, the world would be a slightly better place than it was today.

  73. John Sullivan says:

    HEY, Dennis, don’t even waste your time on the topic of Bath-tub boy…THE BIGGEST DOUCHEBAG on television today..LOL. This guy is a joke. oh, well I must be careful, it looks like ol’KO’s ENTIRE viewing audience is in here on this one! ALL 71 of you!

  74. Duros62 says:

    And you’re sporting 1-11. Might not want to crow so loudly, there, squeaky.

  75. mambochicken23 says:

    Jesus Christ, Oliver, do you think that you attract the dumbest trolls in all the intertubes, or are these idiots indicative of the average modern conservative? FFS.

  76. Duros62 says:

    Yeah, Olby’s a serious journalist, all right.

    1. No, he’s a sportscaster. Or used to be, which might in some way explain his focusing so much time and energy on Tiger.

    2. At least he has a degree in broadcasting. Unlike, say, Sean Hannity who has NO prior experience.

  77. Duros62 says:

    Shorter Dennse: HALP! I’m bein’ opressed!

  78. Duros62 says:

    That’s not leftist outrage you hear, it’s hysterical laughter.

  79. mambochicken23 says:

    Now we can see the violence inherent in the system.

  80. Jesse Ewiak says:

    Have you been to Ezra Klein’s blog since he moved to the WaPo? The trolls there make Dennis et al look like MENSA members.

  81. Duros62 says:

    BTW, do any of the trolls here actually disagree with what Olby said?

  82. Marco says:

    A couple do, because they say the media is liberal. That’s pretty much all the proof they need.

  83. Duros62 says:

    Well, thank Shiva that the media is liberal enough to let conservatives speak out at all, then, eh?

  84. Dan says:

    notice these are all talk radio hosts. Which the right wing has said for years and years and years is the only voice the right wing has.

    But way to listen to the most uneducated man in America. The media bias that the “right wing” talks about is with NBC, CNN, ABC, CNN. But that’s okay if you are not smart enough to listen to actual words

  85. Burn says:

    I love this metric of success wingnuts carry with them. More = better.

    So Miley Cyrus is a better singer than Gillian Welch? Because she sold more records, that must be 100% proof that she is.

    So Transformers 2 is a better movie than The Road, because they sold more tickets?

  86. Burn says:

    Do the wingnuts consider Fox part of the mainstream media? Because they always love to gloat about Fox and the ratings.

    Well, if Fox gets higher ratings than all the other cable news channels combined, doesn’t that make Fox…mainstream?

    As in, popular. As in, most watched channel in cable news?

  87. Moonbatting Average says:

    Ah, so the Haditha perps were killers and scumbags, but not murderers. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up!

  88. Forrest says:

    Reporting everything on a he-said she-said basis with no fact-checking constitutes liberal bias? Interesting.

  89. Patrick says:

    The “wingnuts” might have a different definition than the non wingnuts.

  90. BlueEyedVideot says:

    Probably the main reason Mr. Olbermann has difficult obtaining right-wing guests to interview on his show is that when all is said and done, conservatives have few ideas on fixing the disasters their governance has caused. All they seem able to do is raise the overall noise level, yell “No!” a lot, and insult and filibuster anything that potentially looks like a solution, mainly because they didn’t think of it first.

    I believe this stems from the undercurrent of “The Family’s” control of the conservative base. Organized religion is really good at keeping the flock in line and under control, but several millennia have shown that they are unable to invent new solutions to cope with a rapidly changing world. That’s the main difference between liberalism and conservatism and proof we’ll not find solutions from the “tea-baggin’” right wing. The likes of O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity: No new ideas, just fear, plots, subversion, and in Beck’s case, Vapo-rub(tm) tears. It’s remarkable to watch the right-wing while they fight tooth and nail to slow the progression of any of Obama’s changes, then activate the talking heads to criticize Obama for not getting anything done.

    You can call Keith Olbermann all the names you like, but what you seem unable to comprehend, is that he speaks for a majority of liberals who are busy working on solutions for today’s problems. The mere fact that you are name-calling assigns you to the ranks of the “do nothings.” You show yourself to be, like the rest of the Republican party, morally bankrupt and fresh out of new ideas.

  91. Dreifort says:

    Olbermann’s days on MSNBC are numbered. He has zero ratings and even before non-biased owner Imelt sold NBC to Comcast, he was already being pushed back into sports coverage. Olbermann tried to build his “news” commentary mostly on hate talk regarding anything he didn’t agree with (which was a strong left view of things).

    He tries to use stick puppets mocking those he doesn’t like with fake cartoon charactures pasted on a popsicle stick. I’ve seen better news coverage from a 5th grader doing school news.

    Even on NBC’s SNF he has to rip off ESPN’s (ABC’s) Chris Berman style by referencing football players with clever middle names? how original Keith.

    When he’s taken off MSNBC’s airwaves I won’t cry…I won’t rejoice either. No one will…no one cares what he has to say except those who share his same hate filled ideology of anything they don’t agree with (if its right/left…pagan/Christian…fries/yogurt…anything).

  92. Parthenon says:

    I whenever conservatives play the liberal bias card, I’m always reminded of pro wrasslin’ when the “heel” complains to the ref that the “face” is cheating.

    Exactly! And in turn 99% of the MSM act like these guys.

  93. Parthenon says:

    It wasn’t until that his pedantic drivel was being held up as a spittle-swathed stroke of brilliant insight that I had the least bit of interest in what he had to say — and then only to confirm that he’s still a delusional, pompous, arrogant prick.

    If you dislike his personal style or manner, that’s obviously your prerogative, Joe. But as Duros asks above, can you dispute what he says? Can you engage him on the facts, rather than whether you find him pompous?

  94. Joe Anonymous says:

    Parthenon, what he said was technically correct. But the presentation was misleading at best.

    Imagine Olbermann were to talk about the racial balance of Major League Baseball, sneering at the thought that Asians were underrepresented. And then he were to list each and every single Asian player in the Major Leagues. How do you rebut that? Do you look into the racial background of every single player that he cited, looking for some sign that Olbermann misrepresented it?

    No, you just point out that Olbermann has engaged in some highly selective sampling, and ignored the overwhelming majority of the entire class he was discussing.

    To say that the mainstream media is very biased on the side of the liberals is not to say that there aren’t conservatives — just that the liberal bias isn’t absolute. And as I noted before, the conservatives are, for the most part, confined to the ghettos of talk radio and Fox News. The rest of the mainstream media — and that “rest” is vast indeed — is largely the domain of liberals.

    And Olbermann, with his overwhelming focus on those two ghettos (as well as in his citation of opinion columnists, who are PAID to express their opinions), proves the point that he’s trying to refute.

    As well as affirming what a complete and utter douche he is.

    “The Phantom Dennis”

  95. Mike says:

    No conservative has any business calling anyone else a “douche.”

  96. Southern Quaker says:

    To say that the mainstream media is very biased on the side of the liberals is not to say that there aren’t conservatives — just that the liberal bias isn’t absolute.

    Give us some evidence, please, of how the MSM is biased on the side of liberals. Not some study by the Heritage Foundation, or whining about how unfairly George W. Bush was treated by the media :rolls eyes:. But some honest-to-god links to stories you felt were egregiously biased. Preferably stories that had traction and wide media coverage.

    And as I noted before, the conservatives are, for the most part, confined to the ghettos of talk radio and Fox News.

    Oh good grief. Is FOX the #1 cable news show or not? Does O’Reilly regularly beat Olbermann in the ratings or not? Is Rushbo the #1 talk show in the nation or not?

    Yeah, those poor New England Patriots. They really are in teh “ghetto” of the NFL.

    Buy a clue: you can’t simultaneously be down-trodden and “we’re so popular because the American people really agree with us” at the same time.

  97. Rex Mundane says:

    Yeah, Conservatives suffer large, what with being confined to the ghettos of the most successful cable news channel and most successful talk radio broadcast (compared to the listenership of liberal talk radio) and the utter obscurity that it brings.

    Olberman lists what, twenty or so conservative voices in the media? Hell he even leaves out, off the top of my head, Malkin, Hume and Savage, but can you list half as many liberals? Hell I’ll even give you Olberman on that list already. Who else would get as much exposure and be as liberal as Hannity or Limbaugh or Beck or O’Reilly or Coulter or Liddy or Medved or Dobbs or Horowitz or Ingraham or Stossel or Goldberg or Cavuto is conservative that you could possibly put on that list?

    And please don’t just say “All of them” as though that passes for clever anywhere.

  98. timmy says:

    Soros is more powerful than them all! Ahahahahahahahaha..

  99. timmy says:

    Political Relativity.

    A die hard liberal will tend to see a cold and ruthless corporate media geared entirely toward profit for its major shareholders.

    Today’s conservative can only see see Jesus weeping for the mind controlled masses who collectively bow to the will of Obama, Code Pink, Soros and Satan. God help us all. And don’t you understand that America is being overrun by Islamofascist Dhimmicrats who live in The Hood? They want to kill us all with SOYLENT GREEN COMMUNIST health care!!! St. Dubya wasn’t a gaffe machine, BIDEN IS!!! MSM MSM MSM… WAKE UP PEOPLE, THE LIBERAL MEDIA MUST DIE!

  100. Jamey says:

    Is there a liberal equivalent to Fox News–a network STARTED by a FORMER MEDIA CONSULTANT to Republican presidents to advance one party’s point of view?

    This network is owned by the same media consortium that owns the NY Post and WSJ, the former a hive of high-decibel opprobrium from the likes of Andrea Peyser; the latter home to John Fund’s predictably reactionary right-wing OpEd page. There is no liberal-owned/directed equivalent to the News Corp synergy machine. Citing exceptions as the rule is a hackneyed right-winger trick. But, again, is there anything in the mainstream media as focused and vertically integrated as News Corp/Fox News?

    Of course not. So on the one hand, we have a demonstrated partisan media outlet. And on the other hand we have accusations of some nebulous construct–”the liberal media”–the existence of which is trumpeted 24/7 by … Fox News.

    Seriously, righties, just STFU and enjoy your mastery of the moment. That you’re not in charge says more about your failure to wield power effectively, and not your ability to grasp power when conditions are favorable.

  101. Jody says:

    Wow. 100 comments. Must have really ticked off the trolls.

    Must have something to do with tearing down their facade of victimhood.

  102. ignatz says:

    Holy crap. Major media cited Bartcop? The world is coming to an end.

    Good for Bart.

 

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