Kill One Talking Point

5:41 pm EST November 18th, 2009 | News | 20 Comments

If anyone says the Obama administration is doing things based on polls, you should point them back to this whole terror prosecution story. Trying the 9/11 plotters is not the most popular thing in the world, but the key is it’s the right thing to do. Our courts have handled worse than these guys, and I have the faith in our system for us to do it.

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20 Responses to “Kill One Talking Point”

  1. SaveFarris says:
    November 18, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    “Our courts have handled worse than these guys,”

    … Such as?

  2. 2ndAmndmnt says:
    November 18, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    OOOHHH Look!! Barry grew some balls! Maybe he borrowed them from Michelle, tough to say.

  3. Oliver Willis says:
    November 19, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Every serial killer, rapist, and murderer that’s ever been caught?

  4. Felix Helix says:
    November 19, 2009 at 2:49 am

    How about that guy Jon Stewart likes to show a clip of, the guy on death row who ate someone’s brain? That’s pretty bad.

  5. SaveFarris says:
    November 19, 2009 at 8:09 am

    So, in Democratic’s eyes, KSM is no different than Scott Peterson or the Duke Lacrosse Team.

    Got it. Thanks!

    I’m having a hard time coming up with any raping serial killers we’ve tried that had 3,000 kills, all at once no less. It’d sure be a big help if you could jog my memory.

  6. The Dark Avenger says:
    November 19, 2009 at 8:49 am

    Actually, there’s someone else who used to think that trials for terrorists aren’t such a bad idea:

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
    CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS: After the 2006 trial of the so-called “20th hijacker” Zacarias Moussaoui, you said, “It shows we can give people a fair trial, that we are exactly what we say we are. We are a nation of law.”

    Respectfully, Mayor, you supported civilian trials for terrorists then.
    GIULIANI: If there’s no other alternative, I support civilian trials for terrorists.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    OLBERMANN: Since when is America in the business of relying on its justice system as a last resort? And, by the way, when is America in the business of granting the wishes of terrorists, well, when they wish for a lawyer phone call jury of their peers or to face their accusers, when they wish for a last meal perhaps?

    Mr. Giuliani, a former prosecutor, in New York, should know better. It’s no shame to be afraid but what they really want, Mr. Giuliani, is not a New York City trial. We call them terrorists because what they really want is to frighten us into changing how we do things, who we are. And that is precisely what Mr. Giuliani, who once suggested he should stay mayor even after his term expired proposes to give them. It’s a principle Mr. Giuliani used to understand, declaring after 9/11, quote, “a renewed devotion to the rule of law.”

    Mr. Giuliani called on his abandonment of traditional American principles, called on it from left and from right. Here’s the left.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    DAVID AXELROD, WHITE HOUSE SENIOR ADVISER: When the 20th 9/11 bomber was tried in Virginia, in a-in a civilian court and convicted, Mayor Giuliani testified in that case and he heralded the-heralded outcome. So, he may have changed his view, but we haven’t changed ours.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    OLBERMANN: And three prominent hard-core right-wingers, former congressman and presidential candidate, Bob Barr, American Conservative Union chairman, David Keen, and Americans for Tax Reform president, Grover Norquist, are not only defending the administration’s decision to try and imprison terrorists on U.S. soil but also said, quote, “The scaremongering about these issues should stop.”

    Link

    Of course, there’s nothing to keep SaveFerris from scaremongering about KSM:

    Oh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,scary!

  7. Parthenon says:
    November 19, 2009 at 9:02 am

    Goddammit, did Malkin link to OW.com again?

  8. Parthenon says:
    November 19, 2009 at 9:04 am

    What’s your point Farris? Are more kills going to overload the justice system and cause an error?

  9. SaveFarris says:
    November 19, 2009 at 10:19 am

    Because so far, noone has named anyone that’s committed an act of war against the United States who went on to be tried in a civilian court, other than the blind shiek, which is universally regarded as a clusterf*** that was only saved at the last minute by an unexpected guilty plea.

    Think about it: doesn’t KSM get acquited the second he learns how to pronounce the word “Miranda”?

  10. SpiderJ says:
    November 19, 2009 at 10:19 am

    The Duke LaCrosse Team was found innocent.

    Seriously, what’s with you bedwetters? Ramzi Yousuf, who failed to do exactly what his uncle KSM’s plan pulled off, was tried and convicted in a New York court. And he’s still rotting in a SuperMax prison.

  11. SpiderJ says:
    November 19, 2009 at 10:21 am

    I just named somebody below. So shut up.

  12. Indeed says:
    November 19, 2009 at 10:28 am

    You got a link for that?

  13. SpiderJ says:
    November 19, 2009 at 10:49 am

    In fact, Yousef was held in a civilian jail for two years in New York before that civilian court tried and convicted him.

    Go cry in the corner, Farris. America is brave enough without you.

  14. Oliver Willis says:
    November 19, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    If KSM comitted an act of war (something I agree with), and we wanted to try him under war rules, we should have declared war (something I have argued from about Sept. 12, 2001).

  15. Duros62 says:
    November 19, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Against whom? And shouldn’t we have done that, oh, i dunno, 7 years ago?

  16. Duros62 says:
    November 19, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    This guy, for one.

    Police say Christopher Lee McCuin, 25, called 911 on Saturday and told them he killed a Ms. Jana Shearer, 21, and was cooking her.
    When police arrived at McCuin’s home, they found Shearer’s mutilated body, one ear boiling in a pot of water on the stove and a fork containing human flesh sitting on a plate on the kitchen table.

  17. Duros62 says:
    November 19, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    That was in response to Farris’s “Such as?”

  18. Duros62 says:
    November 19, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    How about Tim McVeigh? Not 3K kills, but pretty close.

  19. Duros62 says:
    November 19, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Because so far, noone has named anyone that’s committed an act of war against the United States who went on to be tried in a civilian court,

    Tim McVeigh.

  20. Zython says:
    November 19, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Democratic’s

    What the hell is a “democratic”?

    How about that guy Jon Stewart likes to show a clip of, the guy on death row who ate someone’s brain? That’s pretty bad.

    Oliver North?

    How about Tim McVeigh? Not 3K kills, but pretty close.

    I’m surprised you took this long to name him.