As well as making a coherent point, if this one’s any indication. Healthcare will make everybody poor and naked? Well, that’s certainly… a… series of words, I suppose… makes as much sense as saying a plan for reform has “wants,” and quoting the liberal De Tocqueville in a… criticism? of a liberal? healthcare plan. Also, Tocqueville wasn’t even born until 19 years after the declaration was signed, so I don’t know what this “at the beginning of our country” thing is supposed to be, and who the sticky fuck is “Porchlight” and why am I expected to give a half a damn…
See this is why I can’t read this dreck, I get so worked up over how poorly done it is I’m gonna be mumbling to myself all damn day now.
Incapable of funny? Sure they are! — It’s just that looks aren’t everything.
As for this day’s strip, it makes very little sense, and what little it does is sympathetic to the very position (pro-health-care reform) it attempts to belittle.
Can you say “FAIL?” I knew you could! This is not going to strengthen the heart of anyone who opposes “Obamacare,” nor will it dishearten those who favor it. I mean, that’s what propaganda is for, and this is about as inept a piece of propaganda as I’ve seen in quite a while.
It’s nearly as incoherent as Orly Taits on a day when her meds have kicked in.
I have a lot of friends who are amateur comic/manga artists. One hallmark I’ve noticed is that after they draw for a while, they art improves. I keep waiting for this to happen to Muir.
I also keep waiting for him to figure out causality. I mean, I’ve long since given up on funny, sure, but I have yet to read a Muir strip that comes even close to making coherent sense. Where the event in panel 2 follows logically and temporally from panel 1. If you can take the panels and read them in any order and have the strip make exactly as much sense, UR DOIN IT WRONG.
It’s always great fun when Sadly, No! has Muir’s cartoons up where you can write your own word bubbles. At least that way they’re funny.
But at least Muir is finally getting to what he thinks cons like to look at.
The problem wingnuts have with trying to be funny, is that they think sledgehammer style political statements are jokes. They aren’t remotely close to being funny. It’s so forced, ham-handed, and stale. They don’t understand timing or being witty, or being sly about it. They should take some notes from Mike Judge and ‘King of the Hill’ on how to really do it right
That’s why all the great creative minds, from artists to authors to musicians are liberals, unless you count Ted Nugent and Jon Voigt. You need a free, open mind to be truly creative. Wingnuts respond to authority first which always hampers their pathetic attempts at being creative. They put the horse before the carriage every time when they try this kind of thing.
“The Mommy, More Ice Cream Please” Revolution?
“The Arms for Hostages” Revolution?
“The Please America, Don’t Put Two and Two Together” Revolution?
“The Trees Cause Pollution” Revolution?
“The Medicare Will End All of Our Freedoms” Revolution?
“The Facts are Stupid Things” Revolution?
The problem is that with humor, you have to punch up – not down. Making fun of poor people, brown people, or other people with no power isn’t funny, especially when you’re in essence doing it to back up powerful, white males. Ex: See Rush Limbaugh, calling a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton a dog.
Humor is about poking fun if not outright lambasting the powerful. This is why Republicans can’t do it — they worship power for its own sake. They hate the little guy. They hate the less fortunate.
And I think there’s a difference between a funny conservative, and conservative humor. There’s a good number of the former, but the latter isn’t really what humor should be about. Ideological humor gets real old real fast.
Day By Day is not humorous. I have glanced at them occasionally, and largely seems to be an excuse to draw women in slinky poses, and then spouting off some inane point he found on Red State. This one is a prime example, and if they’ve ever been better, I must have blinked that day. But that’s not it’s purpose; it’s there to provide snarky commentary. Which I suppose is a blessing that he limits his commentary to one thing a day, rather than the howling stream of inanity that would result if Muir were an actual blogger.
You can talk about Doonesbury as an example of liberal humor, but Doonesbury, while unabashedly liberal, and skewers both liberal and conservative icons fairly regularly. He certainly doesn’t keep recycling the same stale one-liners, and every strip is not about the same damned half dozen people, who are required to spout something someone else says on their blog. Muir seems to do this regularly. If I were to capsulize the major flaw inherent in conservative humor, it’d be that they don’t actually know how to poke fun at themselves. Liberals do this all the time, which is why we get it, and cons don’t.
Conservatives are incapable of funny.
As well as making a coherent point, if this one’s any indication. Healthcare will make everybody poor and naked? Well, that’s certainly… a… series of words, I suppose… makes as much sense as saying a plan for reform has “wants,” and quoting the liberal De Tocqueville in a… criticism? of a liberal? healthcare plan. Also, Tocqueville wasn’t even born until 19 years after the declaration was signed, so I don’t know what this “at the beginning of our country” thing is supposed to be, and who the sticky fuck is “Porchlight” and why am I expected to give a half a damn…
See this is why I can’t read this dreck, I get so worked up over how poorly done it is I’m gonna be mumbling to myself all damn day now.
Incapable of funny? Sure they are! — It’s just that looks aren’t everything.
As for this day’s strip, it makes very little sense, and what little it does is sympathetic to the very position (pro-health-care reform) it attempts to belittle.
Can you say “FAIL?” I knew you could! This is not going to strengthen the heart of anyone who opposes “Obamacare,” nor will it dishearten those who favor it. I mean, that’s what propaganda is for, and this is about as inept a piece of propaganda as I’ve seen in quite a while.
It’s nearly as incoherent as Orly Taits on a day when her meds have kicked in.
Fail, all the way!
Ed
I’d rather read Hot Babi
This guy makes Mallard Fillmore seem coherent.
Though from what I’ve read conservatives are far more familiar with real porn than the public at large, so I’m sure they are untitillated by this.
I have a lot of friends who are amateur comic/manga artists. One hallmark I’ve noticed is that after they draw for a while, they art improves. I keep waiting for this to happen to Muir.
I also keep waiting for him to figure out causality. I mean, I’ve long since given up on funny, sure, but I have yet to read a Muir strip that comes even close to making coherent sense. Where the event in panel 2 follows logically and temporally from panel 1. If you can take the panels and read them in any order and have the strip make exactly as much sense, UR DOIN IT WRONG.
It’s always great fun when Sadly, No! has Muir’s cartoons up where you can write your own word bubbles. At least that way they’re funny.
But at least Muir is finally getting to what he thinks cons like to look at.
I’ll take libertarians who work for the state for 200, Alex
The problem wingnuts have with trying to be funny, is that they think sledgehammer style political statements are jokes. They aren’t remotely close to being funny. It’s so forced, ham-handed, and stale. They don’t understand timing or being witty, or being sly about it. They should take some notes from Mike Judge and ‘King of the Hill’ on how to really do it right
That’s why all the great creative minds, from artists to authors to musicians are liberals, unless you count Ted Nugent and Jon Voigt. You need a free, open mind to be truly creative. Wingnuts respond to authority first which always hampers their pathetic attempts at being creative. They put the horse before the carriage every time when they try this kind of thing.
No conservative ever started a revolution.
“No conservative ever started a revolution.”
And they sure’s hell never invented freedom or democracy, either.
Ronald Wilson Reagan.
I’m pretty sure he has a revolution named after him. In fact, we celebrated the twentieth anniversary of one of it’s after effects yesterday, cb.
Dennis, necrophilia is rather disgusting and I suggest you stop it at once.
“The Mommy, More Ice Cream Please” Revolution?
“The Arms for Hostages” Revolution?
“The Please America, Don’t Put Two and Two Together” Revolution?
“The Trees Cause Pollution” Revolution?
“The Medicare Will End All of Our Freedoms” Revolution?
“The Facts are Stupid Things” Revolution?
Which was it?
Also the “Ketchup is a Vegetable” Revolution.
“I’m pretty sure he has a revolution named after him”
There’s stuff named after him in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala and Angola as well but they all seem to rhyme with “motherfucker” or “asshole”.
Just as long as we don’t ever see Mallard Fillmore naked in the shower, I’m OK.
+1
The problem is that with humor, you have to punch up – not down. Making fun of poor people, brown people, or other people with no power isn’t funny, especially when you’re in essence doing it to back up powerful, white males. Ex: See Rush Limbaugh, calling a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton a dog.
Humor is about poking fun if not outright lambasting the powerful. This is why Republicans can’t do it — they worship power for its own sake. They hate the little guy. They hate the less fortunate.
I dunno… the fart joke seems to work, no matter who you have doing it.
And I think there’s a difference between a funny conservative, and conservative humor. There’s a good number of the former, but the latter isn’t really what humor should be about. Ideological humor gets real old real fast.
Day By Day is not humorous. I have glanced at them occasionally, and largely seems to be an excuse to draw women in slinky poses, and then spouting off some inane point he found on Red State. This one is a prime example, and if they’ve ever been better, I must have blinked that day. But that’s not it’s purpose; it’s there to provide snarky commentary. Which I suppose is a blessing that he limits his commentary to one thing a day, rather than the howling stream of inanity that would result if Muir were an actual blogger.
You can talk about Doonesbury as an example of liberal humor, but Doonesbury, while unabashedly liberal, and skewers both liberal and conservative icons fairly regularly. He certainly doesn’t keep recycling the same stale one-liners, and every strip is not about the same damned half dozen people, who are required to spout something someone else says on their blog. Muir seems to do this regularly. If I were to capsulize the major flaw inherent in conservative humor, it’d be that they don’t actually know how to poke fun at themselves. Liberals do this all the time, which is why we get it, and cons don’t.