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	<title>Comments on: CBO: Fake GOP Health Care &#8220;Bill&#8221; Is Useless</title>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189640</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting the daily talking points from RedState is not the same as having a valid opinion or argument.

And while I understand that &quot;troll&quot; has a complex and rich linguistic history, I&#039;m surprised you have a hard time spotting serial thread-shitters (these types are often but not always the same thing, I admit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting the daily talking points from RedState is not the same as having a valid opinion or argument.</p>
<p>And while I understand that &#8220;troll&#8221; has a complex and rich linguistic history, I&#8217;m surprised you have a hard time spotting serial thread-shitters (these types are often but not always the same thing, I admit).</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Helix</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189511</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Helix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the day, when I was in collitch and the internets were still mostly text-based, a troll was what we called a person who camped on a discussion thread and wrote &quot;ur teh suk&quot; over and over again.  We didn&#039;t call someone a troll because we disagreed with them, or even because we considered their opinions meritless.  The epithet &quot;troll&quot; was reserved for juvenile bottom-feeding morons who truly had nothing of substance to say, whose only goal was to annoy those of us who were trying to have an actual conversation.

Seems to me the term is thrown around way too freely these days, but that&#039;s probably just because I&#039;m crotchety.  I lurk here much more frequently than is good for me, and post infrequently because unless I&#039;ve got something relevant to say that hasn&#039;t been said yet, saying nothing seems like basic good manners.  For that reason, I&#039;m usually silent when I agree with Oliver -- which is often.  I rarely agree with Dennis, SaveFarris, Frank or Jay Tea (where are you, Jay?) but I don&#039;t begrudge them their points of view.  In fact, I welcome their presence here.  Divergent perspectives make debate possible.  Without conservative commenters, this would just be an echo chamber.  Boring.  It&#039;s a measure of the site&#039;s relevance that conservatives bother to show up.

Just as boring as an echo chamber, though, is the tit-for-tat baloney that flares up whenever someone gets personal and someone else takes the bait.  It&#039;s just so easy, and so pointless, and it&#039;s got nothing to do with politics.  If you think somebody is pathetic, try exerting a modicum of restraint and keep it to yourself!  Attack the argument, not the person who makes it.  It&#039;s really not that hard.

And if it is too hard, guess what?  You might be a troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the day, when I was in collitch and the internets were still mostly text-based, a troll was what we called a person who camped on a discussion thread and wrote &#8220;ur teh suk&#8221; over and over again.  We didn&#8217;t call someone a troll because we disagreed with them, or even because we considered their opinions meritless.  The epithet &#8220;troll&#8221; was reserved for juvenile bottom-feeding morons who truly had nothing of substance to say, whose only goal was to annoy those of us who were trying to have an actual conversation.</p>
<p>Seems to me the term is thrown around way too freely these days, but that&#8217;s probably just because I&#8217;m crotchety.  I lurk here much more frequently than is good for me, and post infrequently because unless I&#8217;ve got something relevant to say that hasn&#8217;t been said yet, saying nothing seems like basic good manners.  For that reason, I&#8217;m usually silent when I agree with Oliver &#8212; which is often.  I rarely agree with Dennis, SaveFarris, Frank or Jay Tea (where are you, Jay?) but I don&#8217;t begrudge them their points of view.  In fact, I welcome their presence here.  Divergent perspectives make debate possible.  Without conservative commenters, this would just be an echo chamber.  Boring.  It&#8217;s a measure of the site&#8217;s relevance that conservatives bother to show up.</p>
<p>Just as boring as an echo chamber, though, is the tit-for-tat baloney that flares up whenever someone gets personal and someone else takes the bait.  It&#8217;s just so easy, and so pointless, and it&#8217;s got nothing to do with politics.  If you think somebody is pathetic, try exerting a modicum of restraint and keep it to yourself!  Attack the argument, not the person who makes it.  It&#8217;s really not that hard.</p>
<p>And if it is too hard, guess what?  You might be a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189497</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to make it clearer...


Oh really, Indeed? What is this mistake that you have some kind of overwhelming, indisputable, laughably obvious evidence for?

Please, do tell. - Dennis



Will there be a response to this from Den? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make it clearer&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh really, Indeed? What is this mistake that you have some kind of overwhelming, indisputable, laughably obvious evidence for?</p>
<p>Please, do tell. &#8211; Dennis</p>
<p>Will there be a response to this from Den? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189496</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher Hitchens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Hitchens.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189495</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Eight year-olds, Dude.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eight year-olds, Dude.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gumby</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189493</link>
		<dc:creator>gumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it&#039;s an ethos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it&#8217;s an ethos.</p>
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		<title>By: gumby</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189492</link>
		<dc:creator>gumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a minute to reply?

That was a 250 word stream of consciousness rant there.  Either you&#039;re sniffing dexatrim, or that&#039;s at least 10 minutes. Multiply by how many posts a day?  Even if you have multiple screens up, you are only focused on one.  Full fucking time.  It&#039;s just WEIRD, dude.  You really are doing nothing else other than this, are you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a minute to reply?</p>
<p>That was a 250 word stream of consciousness rant there.  Either you&#8217;re sniffing dexatrim, or that&#8217;s at least 10 minutes. Multiply by how many posts a day?  Even if you have multiple screens up, you are only focused on one.  Full fucking time.  It&#8217;s just WEIRD, dude.  You really are doing nothing else other than this, are you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189491</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Dennis&#039; defense, trolling this site is a lot cheaper than the psychiatric therapy he&#039;s desperately in need of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Dennis&#8217; defense, trolling this site is a lot cheaper than the psychiatric therapy he&#8217;s desperately in need of.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189490</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says the day-trader who spends more time trolling a liberal site than he does. . . .  Come to think of it, what do you spend more time on that trolling this site and making threats of violence that you get called on?  Hmm?

Full-time employment Dennis.  Try it some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says the day-trader who spends more time trolling a liberal site than he does. . . .  Come to think of it, what do you spend more time on that trolling this site and making threats of violence that you get called on?  Hmm?</p>
<p>Full-time employment Dennis.  Try it some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189489</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dios mio, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dios mio, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189488</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m asking you what the fuck you&#039;re talking about, Indeed.  What mistake?

Are you saying I made a mistake in claiming it wasn&#039;t all bitter old white men that gave McDonnell the big win in VA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m asking you what the fuck you&#8217;re talking about, Indeed.  What mistake?</p>
<p>Are you saying I made a mistake in claiming it wasn&#8217;t all bitter old white men that gave McDonnell the big win in VA?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189487</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaim, sweetheart, when I break it down in simple terms how pathetic you are and the reasons why and how you couldn&#039;t hack it in the real world, you pretty much end up breaking down and spilling the beans on your whole life story.  

Then people come on here and tell me to stop being so mean to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaim, sweetheart, when I break it down in simple terms how pathetic you are and the reasons why and how you couldn&#8217;t hack it in the real world, you pretty much end up breaking down and spilling the beans on your whole life story.  </p>
<p>Then people come on here and tell me to stop being so mean to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189486</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Parasitic troll can’t what mistake he thinks he’s talking about.&lt;/i&gt;

What in God&#039;s holy name are you blathering about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Parasitic troll can’t what mistake he thinks he’s talking about.</i></p>
<p>What in God&#8217;s holy name are you blathering about?</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189483</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why just ask him. He&#039;ll tell you. Boy howdy will he tell you. Over and over and over...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why just ask him. He&#8217;ll tell you. Boy howdy will he tell you. Over and over and over&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189482</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis is calmer than you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis is calmer than you are.</p>
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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189481</link>
		<dc:creator>mambochicken23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m drinking my coffee.  Enjoying my coffee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m drinking my coffee.  Enjoying my coffee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189479</link>
		<dc:creator>mambochicken23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; quick enough.... COCKBOY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <i>am</i> quick enough&#8230;. COCKBOY!</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189478</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Dennis: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;This guy fucking walks. I&#039;ve never been more certain of anything in my life!&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Dennis: </p>
<blockquote><p>This guy fucking walks. I&#8217;ve never been more certain of anything in my life!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My god you&#039;re dumb.  Do you even know what a troll is?  I mean, you are one, but you don&#039;t actually understand the meaning of the term, do you?

A person who posts comments on a blog run by someone with whom they generally agree is not a troll.

To break it down all nice and simple like, if I spent twelve hours a day monitoring a conservative site I&#039;d be as pathetic as you.  And nobody is as pathetic as you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god you&#8217;re dumb.  Do you even know what a troll is?  I mean, you are one, but you don&#8217;t actually understand the meaning of the term, do you?</p>
<p>A person who posts comments on a blog run by someone with whom they generally agree is not a troll.</p>
<p>To break it down all nice and simple like, if I spent twelve hours a day monitoring a conservative site I&#8217;d be as pathetic as you.  And nobody is as pathetic as you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/11/05/cbo-fake-gop-health-care-bill-is-useless/#comment-189476</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parasitic troll who trolls for the side of the blog owner has no clue what he just said.  Parasitic troll can&#039;t what mistake he thinks he&#039;s talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parasitic troll who trolls for the side of the blog owner has no clue what he just said.  Parasitic troll can&#8217;t what mistake he thinks he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
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