11.4.09 Link-El
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“Republicans and conservatives around the country are sending an important message to the Republican establishment in their outstanding grassroots support for Doug Hoffman: no more politics as usual”
– Sarah Palin, 10/22/09
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* 1 Year ago today Barack Obama was elected President, and a great country became greater
* AP’s Liz Sidoti takes a break from fetching John McCain’s donut to do more GOP stenography
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* Jesse Thorn explains how to dress like a grownup. I never will (t-shirt and kicks forever!) but maybe some of you will.
* Disneyland Shanghai is coming
* Obama offers Iran a choice
* … and sweet Jesus how much did Creigh Deeds SUCK?
I should also point out, that Virginia’s rule where you can’t run in 2 consecutive gubernatorial elections is asinine.
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Yes, Creigh Deeds did run a sucky campaign. It was horrible. But as much blame may be put on his doorstep we shouldn’t overlook the northern Virginia dem. establishment who walked away from the race after McCaulliffe and Moran got beat in the primaries. The money and interest in supporting someone who wasn’t an established Nova liberal (Moran – who I voted for in the primary)or big-money sleaze bag (MCCauliffe)doomed Deeds from the start. They looked down on Deeds becase he wasn’t one of them. He might no thave won anyway but they didn”t even try.
Who would have thought being endorsed by people who compare health care reform to 9/11 wouldn’t turn out well?
Come on, let’s not get all WEE WEEED over these big loses.
Creigh Deeds did run a sucky campaign. It was horrible. But as much blame may be put on his doorstep we shouldn’t overlook the northern Virginia dem. establishment who walked away from the race after McCaulliffe and Moran got beat in the primaries. The money and interest in supporting someone who wasn’t an established Nova liberal (Moran – who I voted for in the primary)or big-money sleaze bag (MCCauliffe)doomed Deeds from the start. They looked down on Deeds becase he wasn’t one of them. He might no thave won anyway but they didn”t even try.
Wasn’t Creigh Deeds’ entire campaign based around, “I’m not one of those crappy librul NoVa dems!” ? It is kind of nice to know that for a Democrat, electoral success in VA is premised on cultivating the interests of NoVa Democrats. Maybe if he had spent more time appealing to that establishment and less time trying to sell us a line of “I can win because I’m a good conservative Dem from southern VA,” the race would have been closer. The fact that he was a sucky campaign and the fact that the NoVa establishment abandoned him are actually intimately tied to each other.
I can’t to hear how Glenn ‘the mentor” spins his boy’s loss today. It’s going to be fun.
Just watch! The lemmings here already got their marching orders.
Not at all…I’m LMAO over you guys thinking this is a sign the south shall rise again.
Keep On Teabaggin’!!! Yeah baby!!!
I. Can’t. Wait.
NY-23 has its first Democratic Congressman since the 1800′s.
America wins.
1993, Jaim. You’re an idiot.
Or a dupe, one of the two.
Is NY-23 even still going to exist when NY loses another couple seats in the 2012 reapportionment? People just can’t leave the Empire State fast enough!!
1993, Jaim. You’re an idiot.
Or a dupe, one of the two.
Nice link, Dennis. Did you even read it? In 1993, NY-23 was almost entirely a different group of counties than make it up today. Comparing NY-23 today to NY-23 in 1993 is like comparing Louisiana today with the Louisiana Purchase.
Nice job, slick.
Is NY-23 even still going to exist when NY loses another couple seats in the 2012 reapportionment?
You people seemed to think so as recently as yesterday. What happened?
Yesterday’s elections were an interesting indicator about the state of the GOP. Obviously the party isn’t completely dead. Winning the governor’s race in NJ is a pretty big deal. The win in VA was solid.
However, both of those candidates had to run as soft, conservative-lite candidates. Neither pushed the hot button issues dear to the conservative base.
The one candidate who did run from the far right failed.
So the GOP faces a big, big dilemma. Should they embrace the wacko RedState, Limbaugh, Palin, Glenn Beck right? Or ignore them? They pretty much ignored the fringe in NJ and VA and won. The hard right kicked down the doors in NY-23 and lost.
Start thinking third party, ‘baggers.
Tom DeLay’s not doing anything. He’d love to help with reapportionment.
If you want to be pedantic about it, the 23rd has had many Democratic representatives over the years. Of course, for much of that time the district called the “23rd” was actually in New York City.
Today, the district consists of Clinton, Franklin, Hamilton, Jefferson, Lewis, Madison, Oswego, and St. Lawrence counties along with parts of Essex, Fulton, Oneida.
When was the last time these counties elected a Democrat?
Quaker, quit stalking Dennis! Why are you so obsessed with him and whether or not he knows what he’s talking about? You’re clearly projecting your own fears of being wrong on to his actually being wrong.
As my old hs debate partner would say, ‘very astute.’
Actually, doesn’t sound like much of a dilemma.
I’m a Hick (great handle, btw):
If there’s any justice, DeLay will eventually be doing time.
Thanks.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/All_the_King's_Men_(1949_film)
Try again.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/All_the_King%27s_Men_(1949_film).
You get the idea.
Stalking? Hey, he’s the one who nominated me to be site monitor. Just doin’ ma job!
Still can’t stop grinning about this. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity all get together and endorse someone, and they get crushed.
Can’t wait for 2012.
Carter Beats the Devil was a fantastic book. It should have been a movie instead of all the other turn of the century magician movies which came out.
That said, the “Magicians” movie by British comedy duo Mitchell & Webb was pretty god-damned funny.
Obama got behind Corzine and Deeds, Jaim. You wanna see crushed, look at the results in VA, my friend.
Hoffman had both the Republican candidate and the Democrat candidate campaigning against him along with the strength of the White House, too, and he only lost by a slim margin after being way behind just a short while ago, before anyone even knew who he was.
Ask yourself why it is that if Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity were no help to a no-name independent candidate, why did Obama and Biden have to scramble so much to help out Owens?
How has Fox been covering Hoffman today? Did they scrub him from existence as to not spoil their smashing victory?
Yes, Virginia, that hot-bed of liberal activism. It’s like the San Francisco of the south I tell ya!
The election proved that Dems need to regroup since it isn’t 2008 and longer and they can’t ride Obama’s coat-tails as down-ticket contenders. Teabaggers proved that they are fully capable of committing political suicide by damning viable candidates, running wing-nuts, and having relatively unknown Dems win seats that they shouldn’t even be contending for. A seat that has been safely Republican for over 100 freaking years.
I couldn’t ask for a dumber, more idiotic Republican party these days. It’s beautiful. And they funny thing is you actually think losing a House seat to a Democrat is a victory. Priceless. I wish I could bottle your stupid and put it in a museum.
Re: Obama & Iran –
Looks like the Iranians are calling out Obama to stop dithering: “Obama you are either with us or with them (the mullahs)” –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAxF28bTIFc&feature=player_embedded
In the mean time, Iran is smuggling more arms to Syria which violates numerous UNSC resolutions banning Iran from exporting weapons and forbidding the arming of Hezbollah. –
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1256799087344&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/pollak/154401
Obama must love being teabagged by Ahmadinejad.
ACORN stuffed the ballot boxes, obviously.
I never said losing the House seat was a victory. I said it wasn’t a total loss, just like when Paul Hackett and Ned Lamont lost. But Dems lost by almost 19 points in VA, Jaim. There is no fucking way in the world that is a good thing for Dems no matter how much you pretend it is. Ask Olympia Snowe. Ask any blue dog Dem. Ask any Dem in any swing state up for reelection next year. Obamacare goes back to the drawing board, and the longer it gets delayed the worse it is for Dems next year trying to spin it to make the case they should get reelected.
Rahm Emmanuel spinning today versus his crowing over the exact same state governor victories in 2005 is about as transparent as you are, Jaim.
You’re both phonies.
He’s a fighter, though, I’ll give him that. You? You’re a typer.
And a cut and runner.
Yes, I should have known.
They probably put a (D) next to his last name when it flashed on screen.
I am really curious if they bothered to talk to him today. I know their morning clown car had a Winds of Change chyron up and running. Sweet.
Over at the Great Orange Satan there is a video of all the hype FOX did on NY-23 leading up to the election, how important it was, what a message it was going to send. Everybody who was anybody was behind Hoffman. They even practiced their touchdown dance a little prematurely. FOX was going to rub Obama’s face in this one.
Bummer dude, Hoffman lost and it wasn’t close enough to suggest ACORN fraud.
In the follow up the FOX Klowns backpedaled at Mach 1.5. They couldn’t emphasize enough that NY-23 was an obscure district of little importance in the grand scheme of things.
Not to mention the loss of the safest GOP seat in the country until yesterday, the near extinction of the GOP in the NE and an increase in the House majority for the hated Pelosi. With the replacement of the DINO Tauscher in CA-10, Obama has improved his hand in congress by appointing a RINO and a DINO out of congress and letting the electorate put Democrats into those seats.
Lovely. Will the GOP learn from it? Doubt it. They’re afraid of their tea baggers.
Ha! It got better. I posted before Bill Sammon spoke. Fucking-A brilliant. Thanks for posting that.
Deeds was a crappy candidate, and he tried to run as a Blue Dog rather than a true progressive.
Meanwhile, you teabaggers turned a century-old red House seat blue.
Thank you!
Which means that if Rep’s had simply done the Rahm Emmanuel strategy from 2006 in NY-23, they’d have easily won all three important elections last night, instead of blowing away the Dems in just two key state governor elections. The Rahm Emmanuel strategy from 2006 is now a big problem. And NY-23 is up for election next year, Jaim. And Owens campaigned against the public option.
Oh, and this from a key Dem everybody seems to like, who I would imagine has a bit more of a keen vantage point from where he sits than you do:
“We got walloped.”
–Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.)
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Obamacare is running out of days, Baghdad Bob Jaim.