Comments on: 51% Support Public Option Over “Bipartisan” Mush In ABC Poll http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Paul Burke - Author Journey Home http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188639 Paul Burke - Author Journey Home Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:03:29 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188639 The fact remains that big insurance by refusing care to patients and reimbursement to doctors over typos has ticked everyone off. They have a monopoly over the whole process and a well financed lobby team (including Liebermans wife) and representatives on both sides of the isle. A friend of mine recently laid off just he and his spouse is paying $2,500.00 dollars a month for his COBRA. Health insurance costs more than his mortgage. Anyone taking up the insurance industry's cause doesn't know what they are talking about. If you think the insurance companies are going to voluntarily lower their cost while having a monopoly over the process – you are being disingenuous …Over 60% of all US bankruptcies are attributable to medical problems. Most victims are middle class, well educated and have health insurance - (The American Journal of Medicine) The insurance companies and their representatives in Congress would love to perpetuate a business model that is crippling our overall economy – a bunch of great Americans aren’t they? 90% of the wealth concentrated in 1% of the population is no way to run a country but a heck of a way to establish a royalty ruling class. Yacht sales can not sustain 350 million people. I'm for the public option, competition and a level playing field or break up the big insurers like we did to AT&T. Paul Burke Author-Journey Home The fact remains that big insurance by refusing care to patients and reimbursement to doctors over typos has ticked everyone off. They have a monopoly over the whole process and a well financed lobby team (including Liebermans wife) and representatives on both sides of the isle.

A friend of mine recently laid off just he and his spouse is paying $2,500.00 dollars a month for his COBRA. Health insurance costs more than his mortgage. Anyone taking up the insurance industry’s cause doesn’t know what they are talking about.

If you think the insurance companies are going to voluntarily lower their cost while having a monopoly over the process – you are being disingenuous …Over 60% of all US bankruptcies are attributable to medical problems. Most victims are middle class, well educated and have health insurance – (The American Journal of Medicine)

The insurance companies and their representatives in Congress would love to perpetuate a business model that is crippling our overall economy – a bunch of great Americans aren’t they?

90% of the wealth concentrated in 1% of the population is no way to run a country but a heck of a way to establish a royalty ruling class. Yacht sales can not sustain 350 million people. I’m for the public option, competition and a level playing field or break up the big insurers like we did to AT&T.

Paul Burke
Author-Journey Home

]]> By: Chow Shark http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188445 Chow Shark Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:46:39 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188445 Just think, with all those hillbilly idiots screaming and yelling about nothing during the entire month of August, who would've thought sensible Americans still existed. Just think, with all those hillbilly idiots screaming and yelling about nothing during the entire month of August, who would’ve thought sensible Americans still existed.

]]> By: August J. Pollak http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188433 August J. Pollak Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:59:19 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188433 It's a good thing you don't have a reputation for derailing or someone might actually notice something petty and insignificant like how a futures market of what people predict will happen at that particular moment in time has absolutely nothing to do with a poll of what people actually want to happen regardless of whether or not they think it will. I mean, a real pessimistic person might even dare to suggest you might have an opinion contrary to that which Oliver posted and therefore desperately attempted to find any sort of rationale to counter it regardless of its total lack of logic, but that must be crazy talk to you, I'm sure. It’s a good thing you don’t have a reputation for derailing or someone might actually notice something petty and insignificant like how a futures market of what people predict will happen at that particular moment in time has absolutely nothing to do with a poll of what people actually want to happen regardless of whether or not they think it will. I mean, a real pessimistic person might even dare to suggest you might have an opinion contrary to that which Oliver posted and therefore desperately attempted to find any sort of rationale to counter it regardless of its total lack of logic, but that must be crazy talk to you, I’m sure.

]]> By: mambochicken23 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188424 mambochicken23 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:26:31 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188424 If it means a crappy bill that doesn't amount to any significant degree of reform at all, then no. If Republicans had decided to not throw a monstrous collective temper tantrum, and just serve to be idiotic obstructionists, perhaps then a bipartisan bill would have been good (and possible). But we all know how the opposition has behaved. So fuck 'em. If it means a crappy bill that doesn’t amount to any significant degree of reform at all, then no. If Republicans had decided to not throw a monstrous collective temper tantrum, and just serve to be idiotic obstructionists, perhaps then a bipartisan bill would have been good (and possible). But we all know how the opposition has behaved. So fuck ‘em.

]]> By: fafaroo http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188422 fafaroo Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:53:11 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188422 <i>“Is it important for a Health Care bill to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support: yes or no?”</i> No. “Is it important for a Health Care bill to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support: yes or no?”

No.

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188420 SaveFarris Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:02:13 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188420 Which would you rather have: a free Unicorn that those mean nasty Republicans don't want you to have, or no Unicorn at all? Gee, when you phrase the poll question like THAT... Suggested alternative: "Is it important for a Health Care bill to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support: yes or no?" Which would you rather have: a free Unicorn that those mean nasty Republicans don’t want you to have, or no Unicorn at all?

Gee, when you phrase the poll question like THAT…

Suggested alternative: “Is it important for a Health Care bill to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support: yes or no?”

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188396 Quaker in a Basement Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:50:28 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188396 <em>Per Intrade Prediction Markets and people with real money,</em> And they're different from "bookies and gamblers" how again? Per Intrade Prediction Markets and people with real money,

And they’re different from “bookies and gamblers” how again?

]]> By: Dennis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188390 Dennis Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:14:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188390 Per <a href="Will a federal government run health insurance plan (a public option) be approved in the US? " rel="nofollow">Intrade Prediction Markets</a> and people with real money, read 'their own money', the cost of a contract for 'Will a federal government run health insurance plan (a public option) be approved in the US?' by December 30, 2009, as a last trade of 9.2. For a bill approved with the public option being approved by MAR 2010...at 10.0. For approval with the public option by JUN 2010...at 25.0. Not the greatest of odds. If people disagree, make yourselves rich with a chance of 10x-ing yur money. Go for it. Per Intrade Prediction Markets and people with real money, read ‘their own money’, the cost of a contract for ‘Will a federal government run health insurance plan (a public option) be approved in the US?’ by December 30, 2009, as a last trade of 9.2. For a bill approved with the public option being approved by MAR 2010…at 10.0.

For approval with the public option by JUN 2010…at 25.0.

Not the greatest of odds. If people disagree, make yourselves rich with a chance of 10x-ing yur money.

Go for it.

]]> By: jr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/30/51-support-public-option-over-bipartisan-mush-in-abc-poll/#comment-188381 jr Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:53:08 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17334#comment-188381 "Do you want a Kenyan Muslim to kill your parents after watching an abortion doctor abort white children?"-Frank Luntz poll “Do you want a Kenyan Muslim to kill your parents after watching an abortion doctor abort white children?”-Frank Luntz poll

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