’)“Which of these would you prefer – (a plan that includes some form of government-sponsored health insurance for people who can’t get affordable private insurance, but is approved without support from Republicans in Congress); or (a plan that is approved with support from Republicans in Congress, but does not include any form of government-sponsored health insurance for people who can’t get affordable private insurance)?”
Fifty one percent said they preferred the public option; 37 percent said they preferred a bill with some support from Republicans in Congress. Six percent said neither and seven percent expressed no opinion.
“Do you want a Kenyan Muslim to kill your parents after watching an abortion doctor abort white children?”-Frank Luntz poll
Per Intrade Prediction Markets and people with real money, read ‘their own money’, the cost of a contract for ‘Will a federal government run health insurance plan (a public option) be approved in the US?’ by December 30, 2009, as a last trade of 9.2. For a bill approved with the public option being approved by MAR 2010…at 10.0.
For approval with the public option by JUN 2010…at 25.0.
Not the greatest of odds. If people disagree, make yourselves rich with a chance of 10x-ing yur money.
Go for it.
Per Intrade Prediction Markets and people with real money,
And they’re different from “bookies and gamblers” how again?
It’s a good thing you don’t have a reputation for derailing or someone might actually notice something petty and insignificant like how a futures market of what people predict will happen at that particular moment in time has absolutely nothing to do with a poll of what people actually want to happen regardless of whether or not they think it will. I mean, a real pessimistic person might even dare to suggest you might have an opinion contrary to that which Oliver posted and therefore desperately attempted to find any sort of rationale to counter it regardless of its total lack of logic, but that must be crazy talk to you, I’m sure.
Which would you rather have: a free Unicorn that those mean nasty Republicans don’t want you to have, or no Unicorn at all?
Gee, when you phrase the poll question like THAT…
Suggested alternative: “Is it important for a Health Care bill to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support: yes or no?”
If it means a crappy bill that doesn’t amount to any significant degree of reform at all, then no. If Republicans had decided to not throw a monstrous collective temper tantrum, and just serve to be idiotic obstructionists, perhaps then a bipartisan bill would have been good (and possible). But we all know how the opposition has behaved. So fuck ‘em.
“Is it important for a Health Care bill to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support: yes or no?”
No.
Just think, with all those hillbilly idiots screaming and yelling about nothing during the entire month of August, who would’ve thought sensible Americans still existed.
The fact remains that big insurance by refusing care to patients and reimbursement to doctors over typos has ticked everyone off. They have a monopoly over the whole process and a well financed lobby team (including Liebermans wife) and representatives on both sides of the isle.
A friend of mine recently laid off just he and his spouse is paying $2,500.00 dollars a month for his COBRA. Health insurance costs more than his mortgage. Anyone taking up the insurance industry’s cause doesn’t know what they are talking about.
If you think the insurance companies are going to voluntarily lower their cost while having a monopoly over the process – you are being disingenuous …Over 60% of all US bankruptcies are attributable to medical problems. Most victims are middle class, well educated and have health insurance – (The American Journal of Medicine)
The insurance companies and their representatives in Congress would love to perpetuate a business model that is crippling our overall economy – a bunch of great Americans aren’t they?
90% of the wealth concentrated in 1% of the population is no way to run a country but a heck of a way to establish a royalty ruling class. Yacht sales can not sustain 350 million people. I’m for the public option, competition and a level playing field or break up the big insurers like we did to AT&T.
Paul Burke
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