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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188538</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look who&#039;s talking.

The amount of times you&#039;ve tried to pass off your opinion as fact is incalculable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look who&#8217;s talking.</p>
<p>The amount of times you&#8217;ve tried to pass off your opinion as fact is incalculable.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188503</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t a razor thin argument; it was an opinion. I merely pointed to words that agreed with mine. What are you? The Caped Crusader? Get a grip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t a razor thin argument; it was an opinion. I merely pointed to words that agreed with mine. What are you? The Caped Crusader? Get a grip.</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188499</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laughable; 

More unsubstantiated claims to bolster your razor thin argument without a shred of proof.

It&#039;s like Bush never left for you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laughable; </p>
<p>More unsubstantiated claims to bolster your razor thin argument without a shred of proof.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like Bush never left for you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188498</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Hell?

Where did you happen to get the &#039;original&#039; story; you know, the one that wasn&#039;t published?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Hell?</p>
<p>Where did you happen to get the &#8216;original&#8217; story; you know, the one that wasn&#8217;t published?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188444</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say &quot;Goodnight&quot;, Junior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say &#8220;Goodnight&#8221;, Junior.</p>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188430</link>
		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there no witless whine you won&#039;t bring here at behest of your masters, Dennis? 

All you do is wait to be told what to think then you come here. 

So where&#039;d you get your orders from for this one, Dennis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there no witless whine you won&#8217;t bring here at behest of your masters, Dennis? </p>
<p>All you do is wait to be told what to think then you come here. </p>
<p>So where&#8217;d you get your orders from for this one, Dennis?</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188428</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be fucking joking Frank; your petulance is matched only by your rabid hatred of truth and reality and your utter inability to admit when you are wrong, in spite of the obvious evidence of your willful error.

Everyone knows what you meant and your absurd attempts to distract from your completely unsubstantiated position are vulgar and obvious.

But by all means, keep playing the poor set upon Conservative that Liberals are unfairly targeting; you sound more like a FOX employee every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be fucking joking Frank; your petulance is matched only by your rabid hatred of truth and reality and your utter inability to admit when you are wrong, in spite of the obvious evidence of your willful error.</p>
<p>Everyone knows what you meant and your absurd attempts to distract from your completely unsubstantiated position are vulgar and obvious.</p>
<p>But by all means, keep playing the poor set upon Conservative that Liberals are unfairly targeting; you sound more like a FOX employee every day.</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188427</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s gracious of you Connie; thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s gracious of you Connie; thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188334</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Frank.....darling.....that&#039;s what friends. We call our friends out, or &quot;put them in check&quot; from time to time. Sweetness.......IT&#039;S ALL ABOUT LOVExxxooo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Frank&#8230;..darling&#8230;..that&#8217;s what friends. We call our friends out, or &#8220;put them in check&#8221; from time to time. Sweetness&#8230;&#8230;.IT&#8217;S ALL ABOUT LOVExxxooo</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188327</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon me. Did you just write &quot;I never called that staged photo op a  staged photo op!&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me. Did you just write &#8220;I never called that staged photo op a  staged photo op!&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188302</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Connie , and all this time I thought we were friends ... Pfffffftttt!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Connie , and all this time I thought we were friends &#8230; Pfffffftttt!!</p>
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		<title>By: gumby</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188294</link>
		<dc:creator>gumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Questions swirl.</description>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188292</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inviting the reporters is because the Obama Administration is allowing the taking of pictures and the reporting of the arrival of the caskets which the Bush Administration would not allow.  This is not a photo opt, it&#039;s allowing true (emphasis) of true reporters to do their job.

I thank JR for being on top of his game, because debating (and debating term loosely used) you; its like trying to talk sense to an obstinate adolescent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inviting the reporters is because the Obama Administration is allowing the taking of pictures and the reporting of the arrival of the caskets which the Bush Administration would not allow.  This is not a photo opt, it&#8217;s allowing true (emphasis) of true reporters to do their job.</p>
<p>I thank JR for being on top of his game, because debating (and debating term loosely used) you; its like trying to talk sense to an obstinate adolescent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188270</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting deletion from the original New York Times article reporting on this story that OW linked to in his post:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mudvillegazette.com/032829.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The New York Times Rewrites&lt;/a&gt;

The original story read like this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;A small contingent of reporters and photographers accompanied Mr. Obama to Dover, where he arrived at 12:34 a.m. aboard Marine One. He returned to the South Lawn of the White House at 4:45 a.m.

&lt;b&gt;The images and the sentiment of the president’s five-hour trip to Delaware were intended by the White House to convey to the nation that Mr. Obama was not making his Afghanistan decision lightly or in haste.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The second page was taken out with no explanation and no retraction.  It now reads like this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;    The trip was a symbolic one for Mr. Obama, given the gravity of his coming announcement of a new strategy for Afghanistan.

    The image of the commander in chief standing on a darkened tarmac, offering a salute to one of the soldiers, highlighted the poignancy of a decision he is facing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So who changed the second paragraph and why?  Did the White House think it gave to much support to criticisms that this was no more than a photo op intended to counter Cheney&#039;s accusation of Obama&#039;s dithering on Afghanistan?  Another example of an administration obsessed with any and all criticisms of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting deletion from the original New York Times article reporting on this story that OW linked to in his post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mudvillegazette.com/032829.html" rel="nofollow">The New York Times Rewrites</a></p>
<p>The original story read like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>A small contingent of reporters and photographers accompanied Mr. Obama to Dover, where he arrived at 12:34 a.m. aboard Marine One. He returned to the South Lawn of the White House at 4:45 a.m.</p>
<p><b>The images and the sentiment of the president’s five-hour trip to Delaware were intended by the White House to convey to the nation that Mr. Obama was not making his Afghanistan decision lightly or in haste.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>The second page was taken out with no explanation and no retraction.  It now reads like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>    The trip was a symbolic one for Mr. Obama, given the gravity of his coming announcement of a new strategy for Afghanistan.</p>
<p>    The image of the commander in chief standing on a darkened tarmac, offering a salute to one of the soldiers, highlighted the poignancy of a decision he is facing.</p></blockquote>
<p>So who changed the second paragraph and why?  Did the White House think it gave to much support to criticisms that this was no more than a photo op intended to counter Cheney&#8217;s accusation of Obama&#8217;s dithering on Afghanistan?  Another example of an administration obsessed with any and all criticisms of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188263</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Had there been no reporters or cameras present, your disdain would have been ‘How do we know this even happened?’ or some other lame attempt to criticize Obama’s attendance.&lt;/i&gt;

This is where you went off the track, Jr. Everything after that is BS...

&lt;i&gt;You’re the one who is pissed this President has more compassion about the troops than Bush ever did, &lt;/i&gt;

It is very foolish to argue with someone about what they meant. Obviously, I know what I meant, better than you do. Don&#039;t waste your time with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Had there been no reporters or cameras present, your disdain would have been ‘How do we know this even happened?’ or some other lame attempt to criticize Obama’s attendance.</i></p>
<p>This is where you went off the track, Jr. Everything after that is BS&#8230;</p>
<p><i>You’re the one who is pissed this President has more compassion about the troops than Bush ever did, </i></p>
<p>It is very foolish to argue with someone about what they meant. Obviously, I know what I meant, better than you do. Don&#8217;t waste your time with me.</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188262</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shut up Frank, just shut up!  I never called you a nut, I said you were a slanderous liar.

Believing something to be true and harping about it are not the same thing as being truthful or proving something to be so.  You quoted the reporter&#039;s comment as factual proof that the event was staged to enhance the President&#039;s image without any proof of that whatsoever.  Had there been no reporters or cameras present, your disdain would have been &#039;How do we know this even happened?&#039; or some other lame attempt to criticize Obama&#039;s attendance.

Don&#039;t try backing away from your assertion; it&#039;s right there in black and white.

You&#039;re the one who is pissed this President has more compassion about the troops than Bush ever did, and has the decency to show it to the families of the slain soldiers who died as a result of the incompetence Bush&#039;s legacy left behind.

If you&#039;re tired of being called a nut, perhaps you should stop uttering such nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shut up Frank, just shut up!  I never called you a nut, I said you were a slanderous liar.</p>
<p>Believing something to be true and harping about it are not the same thing as being truthful or proving something to be so.  You quoted the reporter&#8217;s comment as factual proof that the event was staged to enhance the President&#8217;s image without any proof of that whatsoever.  Had there been no reporters or cameras present, your disdain would have been &#8216;How do we know this even happened?&#8217; or some other lame attempt to criticize Obama&#8217;s attendance.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try backing away from your assertion; it&#8217;s right there in black and white.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who is pissed this President has more compassion about the troops than Bush ever did, and has the decency to show it to the families of the slain soldiers who died as a result of the incompetence Bush&#8217;s legacy left behind.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re tired of being called a nut, perhaps you should stop uttering such nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188232</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shut up, JR! Just shut up! I never said anything about a staged photo op... 

I merely quoted from the article what I believed to be true. It does not say it was a staged photo op, despite the fact that the President invited a handful of reporters and cameramen with him, which kinda sorta makes it a ... staged photo op...

But don&#039;t say you heard it from me ... You&#039;re just looking for an excuse to be pissed off. Don&#039;t wast your time. I am not in the mood for juvenile foolishness.

And, by the way, I am getting tired of being called a nut. It makes you guys look ignorant, and, then it becomes harder to take you seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shut up, JR! Just shut up! I never said anything about a staged photo op&#8230; </p>
<p>I merely quoted from the article what I believed to be true. It does not say it was a staged photo op, despite the fact that the President invited a handful of reporters and cameramen with him, which kinda sorta makes it a &#8230; staged photo op&#8230;</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t say you heard it from me &#8230; You&#8217;re just looking for an excuse to be pissed off. Don&#8217;t wast your time. I am not in the mood for juvenile foolishness.</p>
<p>And, by the way, I am getting tired of being called a nut. It makes you guys look ignorant, and, then it becomes harder to take you seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188228</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m talking about your indecent and lame attempt to portray Obama&#039;s attendance at this event as some kind of staged photo op without a shred of evidence that such a boldly unjust statement is even remotely true.

In other words, you&#039;re full of shit.

Save your holier than thou indignation for baby Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m talking about your indecent and lame attempt to portray Obama&#8217;s attendance at this event as some kind of staged photo op without a shred of evidence that such a boldly unjust statement is even remotely true.</p>
<p>In other words, you&#8217;re full of shit.</p>
<p>Save your holier than thou indignation for baby Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/29/obama-to-dover/#comment-188227</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Obama is the one with the golf affinity. Bush gave it up in 2003.&#039;

That&#039;s his way of honoring the war dead?  Not playing golf?

And you&#039;re calling me clueless?  

&#039;You guys make a big deal out of W golfing but have nothing to say about Obama playing the game already as many times as W did his entire presidency.

Unreal.&#039;

What&#039;s unreal is that Bush spent more time on vacation playing golf than any other President in history, all while ignoring Afghanistan and destroying Iraq, and STILL managing to never attend one of these homecoming events in 8 years.

What&#039;s unreal is your pathetic attempt to equate that to something worthy of praise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Obama is the one with the golf affinity. Bush gave it up in 2003.&#8217;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s his way of honoring the war dead?  Not playing golf?</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re calling me clueless?  </p>
<p>&#8216;You guys make a big deal out of W golfing but have nothing to say about Obama playing the game already as many times as W did his entire presidency.</p>
<p>Unreal.&#8217;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s unreal is that Bush spent more time on vacation playing golf than any other President in history, all while ignoring Afghanistan and destroying Iraq, and STILL managing to never attend one of these homecoming events in 8 years.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s unreal is your pathetic attempt to equate that to something worthy of praise.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>canadian bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In nutterland, if the POTUS isn&#039;t waging a war, preferably in someone else&#039;s country, then he isn&#039;t being Presidential enough.  Everything Obama&#039;s accomplished so far does not amount to a hill of beans in their little world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In nutterland, if the POTUS isn&#8217;t waging a war, preferably in someone else&#8217;s country, then he isn&#8217;t being Presidential enough.  Everything Obama&#8217;s accomplished so far does not amount to a hill of beans in their little world.</p>
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