Hey Evan Bayh, Indiana Backs The Public Option

8:09 pm EST October 29th, 2009 | News | 17 Comments

Listen to the people.

In a Research 2000 poll conducted last weekend, 52 percent of Indiana residents said they favored the government offering everyone a government administered health insurance plan like Medicare. Another 42 percent opposed the idea.

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17 Responses to “Hey Evan Bayh, Indiana Backs The Public Option”

  1. rat_bastard says:
    October 29, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Clearly 52% of indionians (Indians?) hate america and wish to ruin it with teh socialist devil.

  2. Chris K. says:
    October 29, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    These Conservadems are all bullshitting. When it comes down to the key votes they will all be voting for this.

    The key is getting this into conference while dodging the buckshots from Conrad, Nelson, and Leiberman. From there I seriously doubt these cats will have the balls to face their constituents with “I wasn’t 100% sure about this so I denied you healthcare reform once again”.

    I think this can happen before Christmas.

  3. jr says:
    October 30, 2009 at 8:21 am

    Evan Bayh (D-WellPoint)

  4. Mindy says:
    October 30, 2009 at 9:39 am

    Actually, it’s Hoosiers, RB. And yes, Evan Bayh is a HUGE sell-out to WellPoint and Eli Lilly.

  5. Dennis says:
    October 30, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Evan Bayh is a good guy and he’s very well-liked in the Hoosier State. He know’s what he’s doing and knows a likely rigged poll done by liberals with the sole intent of putting heat on Blue Dogs is not going to change his mind.

  6. bikelib says:
    October 30, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    “Likely rigged poll done by liberals”??? So that’s the best that Mr. Semantic Precision can come up with today? Really?? Or is that like your hero Sir Viagra-man of the Dominican Vacations with his, “It doesn’t matter if he Obama wrote that thesis; ’cause we all know he thinks it”?

  7. bikelib says:
    October 30, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    And Oliver: If you or anyone actually thinks that Bayh serves the interests of the voters of Indiana; then I would refer you to the other commenters (Mindy and jr)noting his real constituencies.

  8. Dennis says:
    October 30, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    From the link, bikelib:

    The poll was commissioned by the liberal groups the Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)and Democracy for America. PCCC has targeted moderate Democratic senators for their tepid support for health care reform, particularly on the public option. Most recently, it was part of a campaign to pressure Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to include a public option in the bill he brings to the Senate floor.

    Read and learn, my friend.

  9. Dennis says:
    October 30, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    According to David Plouffe, Bayh was just a mere coin toss away from being Obama’s choice for VP.

    And his approval rating in Indiana by one recent poll was 73%.

    Bayh in Strong Shape in 2010: A new poll conducted by Dave Beattie (of Hamilton Campaigns) for Sen. Evan Bayh suggests little reason for concern as the Indiana Democrat looks toward a race for third term in 2010. Nearly three-quarters (74 percent) of Indiana voters see Bayh in a favorable light while just 23 percent view him unfavorably. Bayh’s favorability ratings are high across party lines with 74 percent of Independents and 61 percent of Republicans viewing him in a positive light.

  10. locus says:
    October 30, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Dennis,

    Break out the scooby snacks! Dennis has actually backed up an assertion (“a poll done by liberals”) with a link to prove its a poll…done by “liberals” (a liberal interest group).

    However, you didn’t provide any data to back up your assertion that it’s a “likely rigged” one. Did you dive into the crosstabs? Did you read over the questions in the poll?

    How do you know that it’s a “likely rigged” poll?

  11. bikelib says:
    October 30, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    So employing your usual M.O., as long as the pollsters don’t clearly and explicitly confess that they slanted the polling, then that excerpt doesn’t prove anything, right? Like I said, I’ve learned to use your M.O. on these threads: cling to ANY plausible deniability and concede absolutely nothing. Because you’re still just speculating; and we all know that someone with your passion for exactitude should never use a phrase like “likely rigged”, would you? “Likely” also means tons of plausible deniability, so I can continue to refuse any concession, right?

  12. bikelib says:
    October 30, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    He doesn’t know for sure. Which means that he’s indulging in exactly what he routinely accuses the rest of us of doing.

  13. Dennis says:
    October 30, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    bikelib,

    If a poll was done that was conducted by a conservative institution with the purpose in mind being to show the results and put pressure on politicians to vote a certain way that they were highly in favor of, what would be your degree of skepticism? What would be your degree of conviction that that poll was likely biased to yield results a certain way?

  14. bikelib says:
    October 30, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Again, employing what is apparently the right-winger’s credo: I wouldn’t care what the facts are; as long as it furthered “My Side’s” agenda. Whatever it takes, baby. Paging Mr. Machiavelli…

  15. mambochicken23 says:
    October 30, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    That’s in the GOP wingnut playbook. Accuse others of the same personal failings that you have yourself.

  16. Dennis says:
    October 30, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    No, see, mambo, I wouldn’t be calling you a failure for scoffing at a poll conducted by conservatives expressly for the purpose of confirming a belief that I was fighting for and wanted to use the results from that poll to embarrass politicians I was afraid were going to vote against my beliefs.

    If I did posted a poll here in which that was done and told a politician to ‘Listen to the people.”, I would expect the same rebuke from you and the rest of the peanut gallery.

    Little known trivia fact, btw: Bayh was in the same fraternity as Mark Spitz and the guy that directed the movie “Breaking Away”.

  17. bikelib says:
    October 30, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    My goal is single-payer healthcare with universal coverage. If it takes a skewed poll to help accomplaish that goal, then so be it. Lives are at stake. If a certain number of religiously crazy right-wingers can justify killing an abortion provider in order to save innocent life; then I sure as fuck have no problem with a little polling hanky-panky if it helps bring my wish for universal healthcare to fruition. Ends, means, yadda, yadda