Comments on: CNN Fail http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:05:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Todd http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187618 Todd Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:14:45 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187618 Not that I'm defending CNN here but I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that people would rather watch the garbage shoutfests on Fox and MSNBC then tune in for some journalism. Even though some of the programming on CNN is cringe-worthy, they do have the edge when it comes to actual journalism. I think the problem with some of their shows (Anderson Cooper 360 is a good example) is that they're trying to stretch it out too much and they end up filling the time with useless filler - back when he had a one-hour show, it was much better. I still think AC 360 fairly decent (though I enjoyed Aaron Brown's Newsnight a bit more). Just face it - screaming, yelling, arguing, and talking over each other is what idiot America likes. Why do you think Glenn Beck and Fox is so popular? I doubt CNN would do much better if Turner returned to the helm (though I'd like to see that). I'd love a network like the BBC here in America but I doubt it would go over well. Not that I’m defending CNN here but I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that people would rather watch the garbage shoutfests on Fox and MSNBC then tune in for some journalism.

Even though some of the programming on CNN is cringe-worthy, they do have the edge when it comes to actual journalism. I think the problem with some of their shows (Anderson Cooper 360 is a good example) is that they’re trying to stretch it out too much and they end up filling the time with useless filler – back when he had a one-hour show, it was much better. I still think AC 360 fairly decent (though I enjoyed Aaron Brown’s Newsnight a bit more).

Just face it – screaming, yelling, arguing, and talking over each other is what idiot America likes. Why do you think Glenn Beck and Fox is so popular? I doubt CNN would do much better if Turner returned to the helm (though I’d like to see that).

I’d love a network like the BBC here in America but I doubt it would go over well.

]]> By: Carlos http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187593 Carlos Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:45:57 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187593 CNN pretty much sucks these days. I love it when news stations occasionally (very rarely) do fact-checking segments. I can't believe it hasn't caught on. Oh wait....It's because they can make more money doing shows like, "My mom's lesbian girlfriend's aunt's affair with a monkey" reality shows. CNN pretty much sucks these days.

I love it when news stations occasionally (very rarely) do fact-checking segments. I can’t believe it hasn’t caught on. Oh wait….It’s because they can make more money doing shows like, “My mom’s lesbian girlfriend’s aunt’s affair with a monkey” reality shows.

]]> By: SAM NY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187448 SAM NY Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:03:15 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187448 Not a bad idea OW. But if they had to fact check MSNBC, CNN would have to cancel all their other segments, features, specials, etc. And would have to hire hundreds of additional employees. I just dont think as a practical matter its possible. Not a bad idea OW. But if they had to fact check MSNBC, CNN would have to cancel all their other segments, features, specials, etc. And would have to hire hundreds of additional employees. I just dont think as a practical matter its possible.

]]> By: Dr. Squid http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187444 Dr. Squid Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:51:09 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187444 Because Joe Scarborough is liberal opinion. Because Joe Scarborough is liberal opinion.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187424 Duros62 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:08:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187424 He can't stay awake that long. He can’t stay awake that long.

]]> By: jr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187411 jr Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:12:17 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187411 It would be nice if Larry King actually read his guests books It would be nice if Larry King actually read his guests books

]]> By: durablend http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187410 durablend Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:11:54 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187410 (meant CNN, not MSNBC--though they're not immune to programming stupidity either) (meant CNN, not MSNBC–though they’re not immune to programming stupidity either)

]]> By: durablend http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187409 durablend Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:10:50 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187409 Which is why they'll no doubt try it again! Which is why they’ll no doubt try it again!

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187393 Oliver Willis Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:16:14 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187393 MSNBC tried the Fox lite strategy in the early-2000s and it failed miserably. MSNBC tried the Fox lite strategy in the early-2000s and it failed miserably.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187387 Dennis Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:56:04 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187387 CNN will forever be known as the fact checker to Saturday Night Live and the Obama Jack and Squat opening monologue. CNN will forever be known as the fact checker to Saturday Night Live and the Obama Jack and Squat opening monologue.

]]> By: mambochicken23 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187386 mambochicken23 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:55:51 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187386 Which is not to say that they shouldn't change things up at CNN. They do some weird shit now (iReport, etc) that I think is awful. And I can't say I'm a fan of their new web design, although that's really a secondary point. Which is not to say that they shouldn’t change things up at CNN. They do some weird shit now (iReport, etc) that I think is awful. And I can’t say I’m a fan of their new web design, although that’s really a secondary point.

]]> By: mambochicken23 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/26/cnn-fail/#comment-187385 mambochicken23 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:54:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=17270#comment-187385 Two things. First, I hope that CNN doesn't use this as a jumping-off point to create shows that are derivative of the shit on Fox News. Secondly, I would still like to point out that popularity does not imply any amount of "value". The fact that Fox News is at the top of the list illustrates this point very nicely. Two things. First, I hope that CNN doesn’t use this as a jumping-off point to create shows that are derivative of the shit on Fox News. Secondly, I would still like to point out that popularity does not imply any amount of “value”. The fact that Fox News is at the top of the list illustrates this point very nicely.

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