Comments on: Lack Of Health Insurance Never Killed Anyone. Except This Guy.

By: Wiz

Wiz — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:07:53 +0000

“everyone in America pays for your Medicaid”

Well, yeah, he probably should’ve said “every tax-paying American pays for your Medicaid…”

“If you lose your job, you can get Medicaid.”

Would’ve been way more accurate to add “if you meet the eligibility requirements of your state”

By: Amused Observer

Amused Observer — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:04:33 +0000

LOL,
The right people running them is supposed to be ironic, sorry that went over your head.

By: Indeed

Indeed — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:32:25 +0000

And this differs from what Madoff did just exactly how? Ponzi schemes are wrong unless the right people are running them.

Ladies and Gentlemen: Your modern Republican party!

By: Amused Observer

Amused Observer — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:21:28 +0000

“But the money you put in 30 years was spent a long time ago. The health-care you’re getting now is being paid for by those currently putting into the system.

Otherwise we wouldn’t have to worry about Social Security going empty in the coming decades.”

LOL,
And this differs from what Madoff did just exactly how? Ponzi schemes are wrong unless the right people are running them.

By: Frank DiSalle

Frank DiSalle — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:58:00 +0000

Jaim, you nincompoop, I don’t get Medicare; I get Medicaid. Worse at reading, and most everything else.

By: Jaim

Jaim — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:03:09 +0000

You do realize how Medicare works, right? Taxpayers put money from their paychecks into a pool over time. When people draw from that pool they don’t do so on a dollar per dollar basis. You’re basically getting subsidized health-care based theoretically on how much you put in over the years, along with everyone else. But the money you put in 30 years was spent a long time ago. The health-care you’re getting now is being paid for by those currently putting into the system.

Otherwise we wouldn’t have to worry about Social Security going empty in the coming decades.

“If you can’t respect your elders, respect your betters.”

Better at hypocrisy, yes, but not much else.

By: Frank DiSalle

Frank DiSalle — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:18:24 +0000

No, Jaim, I pay …

I pay ….

Not “everyone in America”

I pay…

It’s called a ‘spend down’, you ignoramus!

If you can’t respect your elders, respect your betters.

By: Jaim

Jaim — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:25:24 +0000

Actually, everyone in America pays for your Medicaid.

And I’m not opposed to that, but only to your hypocrisy.

By: Frank DiSalle

Frank DiSalle — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:37:53 +0000

Jaim, I pay for my Medicaid. Yet another case of you making up stuff about which you know nothing.

And, abanterer , I pay plenty for my Medicaid, AND I worked over 30 years contributing to Social Security, so I am not thanking you for anything.

But I did spend 4 years in the Army protecting your right to be a wiseass, so YOU’RE welcome.

By: abanterer

abanterer — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:31:17 +0000

Frank, everyone pays into the pot that your Medicaid comes from, including you. As would be the case in single payer – which isn’t on the table – or the public option, which is. It’s all of our contributions, we’d just like it to provide for everyone, and not just the few who qualify for Medicaid.

And again, you’re welcome.

By: Jaim

Jaim — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:29:18 +0000

Says the guy currently getting something for nothing.

By: Frank DiSalle

Frank DiSalle — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:19:33 +0000

When I pay for it, that’s charity; when everyone else pays for it, that’s liberalism.
“When I pay for it” means when it is my contribution, because I voluntarily pay it to some one.
“When everyone else pays for it” means when I pretend it’s free, like nationalized one – payer healthcare or a stimulus check, paid by everyone else (but me), that’s liberalism.
Sorry that was too subtle for you guys, eh?

Remember : YOU’RE the guys who think you can get money for nothing, not the conservatives…

By: Jaim

Jaim — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:50:22 +0000

The depth of hypocrisy among Republicans is staggering. Government hand-out for me is good, for anyone else it’s bad.

By: Southern Quaker

Southern Quaker — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:23:44 +0000

You should talk to someone who has been on Medicaid for a while, as I have, if you would like to know how it works.
…

When I pay for it, that’s charity; when everyone else pays for it, that’s liberalism.

A lovelier example of irony and self-delusion you’d be hard pressed to find.

By: abanterer

abanterer — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:38:17 +0000

You’re welcome, Frank.

By: Ohio Mom

Ohio Mom — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:35:31 +0000

Medicaid rules vary by state, what is true in Frank’s state may not be true in PA.

By: Frank DiSalle

Frank DiSalle — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:47:21 +0000

Connie , you are wrong about Medicaid. You can have a job, a bank account, a car, and a house, if you have a chronic ailment, and are demonstrably unable to pay medical expenses. And, my hospital, for example, has a “hardship program”.

You should talk to someone who has been on Medicaid for a while, as I have, if you would like to know how it works.

And I don’t automatically sign on to “institutionalized caring”, or as it is fashionably known: liberalism.

When I pay for it, that’s charity; when everyone else pays for it, that’s liberalism.

By: Connie

Connie — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:28:21 +0000

Frank, what you get if you lose your job is the chance to keep your insurance, by PAYING for it through COBRA. Cobra only lasts for 15 months, and it has very high monthly premiums. In order to qualify for Medicaid you have to be below the poverty level in your state, not collecting unemployment, and not have any assets, ie: house, car, any savings. You have to be completely depleted before anyone will be eligliable for medicaid. And, the “agenda that we are trying to push” comes up because of these heart-rendering stories. Do you keep your heart on ice?

By: Connie

Connie — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:22:27 +0000

Do, you make these things up as you go along? There was never any such thing!

By: Frank DiSalle

Frank DiSalle — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:07:54 +0000

If you lose your job, you can get Medicaid. I am sorry the guy died because he did not know that, and because he didn’t find his way to an ER. These heart – rending stories always surface, when it’s time to push an agenda.