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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, do you even know what a troll is?  And I&#039;ll ask you again, how much does George Soros pay you to spend hours a day embarrassing yourself and your party?

Because if he isn&#039;t paying you, you&#039;re a bigger loser than I thought.  Which is kind of hard to fathom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, do you even know what a troll is?  And I&#8217;ll ask you again, how much does George Soros pay you to spend hours a day embarrassing yourself and your party?</p>
<p>Because if he isn&#8217;t paying you, you&#8217;re a bigger loser than I thought.  Which is kind of hard to fathom.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186832</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stoner Zython,

Somehow you&#039;ve managed to be late and clueless twice in one day.

That may be a first for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoner Zython,</p>
<p>Somehow you&#8217;ve managed to be late and clueless twice in one day.</p>
<p>That may be a first for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186828</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Dennis: IOKIYAR

&lt;i&gt;Always late&lt;/i&gt;

You ever read Dilbert? I think the one where the late VP forces his subordinates to wait on him while he teaches himself to play the banjo illustrates this phenomenon nicely.

&lt;i&gt;always clueless.&lt;/i&gt;

Bold words for someone who didn&#039;t even read his own link.

&lt;i&gt;Zython, this is the first time you’ve admitted to impersonating a conservative blogger by posting racist statements attributed to her.&lt;/i&gt;

Still grasping at straws, I see. Well, as I&#039;ve said before, whatever helps you sleep at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Dennis: IOKIYAR</p>
<p><i>Always late</i></p>
<p>You ever read Dilbert? I think the one where the late VP forces his subordinates to wait on him while he teaches himself to play the banjo illustrates this phenomenon nicely.</p>
<p><i>always clueless.</i></p>
<p>Bold words for someone who didn&#8217;t even read his own link.</p>
<p><i>Zython, this is the first time you’ve admitted to impersonating a conservative blogger by posting racist statements attributed to her.</i></p>
<p>Still grasping at straws, I see. Well, as I&#8217;ve said before, whatever helps you sleep at night.</p>
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		<title>By: jrfunkenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186796</link>
		<dc:creator>jrfunkenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh; imagine High School students hearing Mao&#039;s name and not immediately thinking of a horde of Chinese Communists streaming into America to overthrow your entire way of life.

She must be the greatest terrorist threat on Earth.

If only George Bush were in power to make sure your ports were patrolled by Dubai based security firms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh; imagine High School students hearing Mao&#8217;s name and not immediately thinking of a horde of Chinese Communists streaming into America to overthrow your entire way of life.</p>
<p>She must be the greatest terrorist threat on Earth.</p>
<p>If only George Bush were in power to make sure your ports were patrolled by Dubai based security firms.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bacon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186774</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Best name for Liz Cheney; BabyDick&quot;

&quot;Clittydick&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Best name for Liz Cheney; BabyDick&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Clittydick&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186770</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>socratic,

You are right and I do feel bad I didn&#039;t write what I originally had a fairly lengthy post on what would&#039;ve been the first post.  I erased it and thought I&#039;d wait to see how other people responded first out of politeness to the blogowner, then when Jaim said what he said I literally burst out laughing and had to respond to his stupidity.

I had already read Rubin&#039;s article and enjoyed it, but not the one she referred to by Noemie Emery, which was also good.  I didn&#039;t think OW&#039;s logic followed, a non-sequitor, and that making the case that women had voted for Democrats in the past was not a refutation of her thesis at all.  

In particular he highlighted and took issue with this statement by Rubin:

&lt;blockquote&gt;She threatens their claim to the moral high ground and their assertion that women voters belong to the Left.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

By reverting to past history seems to me to be admitting you think women do belong to the Left, and there was nothing to be afraid of, which is something no woman wants to have assumed about them.  But I was hoping another woman might have reminded him of that instead of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>socratic,</p>
<p>You are right and I do feel bad I didn&#8217;t write what I originally had a fairly lengthy post on what would&#8217;ve been the first post.  I erased it and thought I&#8217;d wait to see how other people responded first out of politeness to the blogowner, then when Jaim said what he said I literally burst out laughing and had to respond to his stupidity.</p>
<p>I had already read Rubin&#8217;s article and enjoyed it, but not the one she referred to by Noemie Emery, which was also good.  I didn&#8217;t think OW&#8217;s logic followed, a non-sequitor, and that making the case that women had voted for Democrats in the past was not a refutation of her thesis at all.  </p>
<p>In particular he highlighted and took issue with this statement by Rubin:</p>
<blockquote><p>She threatens their claim to the moral high ground and their assertion that women voters belong to the Left.</p></blockquote>
<p>By reverting to past history seems to me to be admitting you think women do belong to the Left, and there was nothing to be afraid of, which is something no woman wants to have assumed about them.  But I was hoping another woman might have reminded him of that instead of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186749</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dennis- Instead of ignoring the substance of the post ...&lt;/i&gt;

Dude, that&#039;s his move!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dennis- Instead of ignoring the substance of the post &#8230;</i></p>
<p>Dude, that&#8217;s his move!</p>
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		<title>By: socraticsilence</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186746</link>
		<dc:creator>socraticsilence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis-  Instead of ignoring the substance of the post why don&#039;t you try and address why women have consistently voted Democratic for more than 20 years, why every single minority group in America consistenly votes Democratic? I mean you could try and focus attention on the carefully parsed out of context remarks of a Whitehouse official or you could actually address the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis-  Instead of ignoring the substance of the post why don&#8217;t you try and address why women have consistently voted Democratic for more than 20 years, why every single minority group in America consistenly votes Democratic? I mean you could try and focus attention on the carefully parsed out of context remarks of a Whitehouse official or you could actually address the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186621</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and Indeed both are trolls in your own special ways.  You act like you hate &#039;trolls&#039; but you troll here looking to bicker with them (Indeed doesn&#039;t bicker, he just posts links of other people who make points).

Tell me, do you want us here or do you not? 

Because if you don&#039;t you have a funny way of showing it.  Aside from your meltdown, that is.  Even a heartless guy like me felt sorry for you then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and Indeed both are trolls in your own special ways.  You act like you hate &#8216;trolls&#8217; but you troll here looking to bicker with them (Indeed doesn&#8217;t bicker, he just posts links of other people who make points).</p>
<p>Tell me, do you want us here or do you not? </p>
<p>Because if you don&#8217;t you have a funny way of showing it.  Aside from your meltdown, that is.  Even a heartless guy like me felt sorry for you then.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186616</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, I took your offer directly.  And within hours you backed out of it.

Once a cowardly bitch, always a cowardly bitch.

But please, don&#039;t let me keep you from your day&#039;s work trolling somebody else&#039;s website.  I know it&#039;s the defining act of your sorry life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I took your offer directly.  And within hours you backed out of it.</p>
<p>Once a cowardly bitch, always a cowardly bitch.</p>
<p>But please, don&#8217;t let me keep you from your day&#8217;s work trolling somebody else&#8217;s website.  I know it&#8217;s the defining act of your sorry life.</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186615</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I only pulled pulled my offer because... &lt;/i&gt;

What&#039;s that beeping noise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I only pulled pulled my offer because&#8230; </i></p>
<p>What&#8217;s that beeping noise?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186612</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only pulled pulled my offer because you tried to weasel on it, Jaim.  And I never backed down on meeting you; that can certainly still happen, my friend.  

Seven months is an awfully long time for anyone to extend the terms on an offer and reasonably expect compliance.  If you had even an inkling of experience in business, you&#039;d know that.  You should know that even as a teacher, but for some reason you don&#039;t.

Tell you what, meet me in Fredericksburg or the lovely vacation spot of Winchester, VA, and we&#039;ll discuss business law over a couple beers.  My treat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only pulled pulled my offer because you tried to weasel on it, Jaim.  And I never backed down on meeting you; that can certainly still happen, my friend.  </p>
<p>Seven months is an awfully long time for anyone to extend the terms on an offer and reasonably expect compliance.  If you had even an inkling of experience in business, you&#8217;d know that.  You should know that even as a teacher, but for some reason you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Tell you what, meet me in Fredericksburg or the lovely vacation spot of Winchester, VA, and we&#8217;ll discuss business law over a couple beers.  My treat.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, guys who threaten other commenters to a fight and then promptly back down should probably keep their mouths shut.  I&#039;m happy to stay away from personal things, but I know you aren&#039;t capable of it.  Therefore, I&#039;ll happily remind everyone here of what a cowardly little bitch you are every time you try and avoid the substance of my comments.  Which will be often, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, guys who threaten other commenters to a fight and then promptly back down should probably keep their mouths shut.  I&#8217;m happy to stay away from personal things, but I know you aren&#8217;t capable of it.  Therefore, I&#8217;ll happily remind everyone here of what a cowardly little bitch you are every time you try and avoid the substance of my comments.  Which will be often, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186602</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never said or been racist about anything, Jaim; only white guys here who want to impress black people and feel the need to assuage their white guilt have made that charge, and they&#039;ve never had anything with which to back it up with.

I mistakenly spelled it that way the very first time he made the mistake of trying to best me on a comment I made because I&#039;ve never seen that common name spelled the way he spells his name, and he called me a dumbass for a spelling error.  So I&#039;ve continued spelling it that way.   He knows that and I&#039;ve never felt the need to explain it to anyone else like you who&#039;s just looking to find anything you can call racist to look like a hero and show your loyalty on a blog that loves nothing more than making the same reactionary, baseless accusations.  And you&#039;ll notice that Pollak has never once made the stupid claim that adding the &#039;c&#039;, as that name is most commonly spelled, is racist.

Don&#039;t take this as a personal attack and give us all another meltdown where you say you&#039;re going to take a long break of what, two days, Jaim, but you&#039;re not nearly as smart as you think you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never said or been racist about anything, Jaim; only white guys here who want to impress black people and feel the need to assuage their white guilt have made that charge, and they&#8217;ve never had anything with which to back it up with.</p>
<p>I mistakenly spelled it that way the very first time he made the mistake of trying to best me on a comment I made because I&#8217;ve never seen that common name spelled the way he spells his name, and he called me a dumbass for a spelling error.  So I&#8217;ve continued spelling it that way.   He knows that and I&#8217;ve never felt the need to explain it to anyone else like you who&#8217;s just looking to find anything you can call racist to look like a hero and show your loyalty on a blog that loves nothing more than making the same reactionary, baseless accusations.  And you&#8217;ll notice that Pollak has never once made the stupid claim that adding the &#8216;c&#8217;, as that name is most commonly spelled, is racist.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take this as a personal attack and give us all another meltdown where you say you&#8217;re going to take a long break of what, two days, Jaim, but you&#8217;re not nearly as smart as you think you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186591</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed the &quot;Pollack&quot; thing Dennis.  Is that another racist attempt at humor on your part?

Color me surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed the &#8220;Pollack&#8221; thing Dennis.  Is that another racist attempt at humor on your part?</p>
<p>Color me surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186582</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zython, this is the first time you&#039;ve admitted to impersonating a conservative blogger by posting racist statements attributed to her.  Admission is the first step in your recovery process and I&#039;m glad for you, but the way you&#039;re doing it here you seem to be defending it.  Pollak&#039;s master, Ted Rall, is far, far worse than those mild descriptives, as everyone on both sides of the ledger are aware, and anything he&#039;d ever fight back on would generate far more caustic rhetoric from him than those mamby-pamby pejoratives.  That&#039;s what makes them amusing, not his defense.

Idiot. 

Always late, always clueless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zython, this is the first time you&#8217;ve admitted to impersonating a conservative blogger by posting racist statements attributed to her.  Admission is the first step in your recovery process and I&#8217;m glad for you, but the way you&#8217;re doing it here you seem to be defending it.  Pollak&#8217;s master, Ted Rall, is far, far worse than those mild descriptives, as everyone on both sides of the ledger are aware, and anything he&#8217;d ever fight back on would generate far more caustic rhetoric from him than those mamby-pamby pejoratives.  That&#8217;s what makes them amusing, not his defense.</p>
<p>Idiot. </p>
<p>Always late, always clueless.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186493</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Or were you just well-trained at the hand of your rude, petty, self-absorbed master?&lt;/i&gt;

Wait, so when a liberal impersonates someone else on the internet, it&#039;s worse than murder 1. But if a conservative does it, it&#039;s &quot;rude, petty and self-absorbed&quot; to fight back? What a piece of scum you are, Dennis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or were you just well-trained at the hand of your rude, petty, self-absorbed master?</i></p>
<p>Wait, so when a liberal impersonates someone else on the internet, it&#8217;s worse than murder 1. But if a conservative does it, it&#8217;s &#8220;rude, petty and self-absorbed&#8221; to fight back? What a piece of scum you are, Dennis.</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186478</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910220043 

&lt;blockquote&gt;GOP press release: Fox News&#039; Cavuto &quot;unveils&quot; &quot;exclusive&quot; House Republican Conference video&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Schmair and schmalanced. Indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910220043" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910220043</a> </p>
<blockquote><p>GOP press release: Fox News&#8217; Cavuto &#8220;unveils&#8221; &#8220;exclusive&#8221; House Republican Conference video</p></blockquote>
<p>Schmair and schmalanced. Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Race-baiting part of the curriculum in your cartooning classes or something, Pollack?  

Or were you just well-trained at the hand of your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rall.com/rallvhellman.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rude, petty, self-absorbed&lt;/a&gt; master?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Race-baiting part of the curriculum in your cartooning classes or something, Pollack?  </p>
<p>Or were you just well-trained at the hand of your <a href="http://www.rall.com/rallvhellman.htm" rel="nofollow">rude, petty, self-absorbed</a> master?</p>
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		<title>By: August J. Pollak</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/22/theres-assertion-and-then-theres-fact/#comment-186466</link>
		<dc:creator>August J. Pollak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I do get the picture. Those were all last year’s battles.&lt;/i&gt;

Color me surprised Dennis finds combating racism to be passe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I do get the picture. Those were all last year’s battles.</i></p>
<p>Color me surprised Dennis finds combating racism to be passe.</p>
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