’)In Commentary, Jennifer Rubin writes a whole lot of blah blah blah about how liberals are afraid of Liz Cheney and how she’s totally awesome and she’s just like Sarah Palin and OMG you knowz what that means and whatnot. Then she writes this:
She threatens their claim to the moral high ground and their assertion that women voters belong to the Left.
Well, let’s go to the tape.
In 2008, women voters went for Obama over McCain by a margin of 56%-43%.
In 2004, an election Democrats lost, Kerry beat Bush with women by 51% to 48%.
In 2000, women preferred Gore 54% to 43% over Bush.
It’s not a baseless claim to say women voters are heavily favor of a liberal Democratic agenda – the facts make it clear. If left to women, our last three presidential elections would have been relatively easy wins for the Democrats (and not just one out of those three). But then again, liberals think and practice the principle that the sexes are actually equal.
It’s cute how wing-nuts are quick to tell us reality-based types not just who we should fear, but who we actually fear. Because I can assure you that I have no fear of Palin or Liz Cheney. They’re both light-weights, one of whom couldn’t hack being a governor, the other who is desperate to try and pull her daddy’s reputation out of the shitter of history down which he has been flushed.
And what’s with wing-nuts claiming all female Republicans are “attractive”? Personally, I couldn’t care less about looks in a politician. But if they want the opinion of a liberal, I can assure you “attractive” is a not a word I’d use to describe either of them.
” But if they want the opinion of a liberal, I can assure you “attractive” is a not a word I’d use to describe either of them.”
LOL, Andrew Sullivan doesn’t find them attractive either.
HURF DURF FAGGITS LOL!
Stay classy, Amused Observer.
We’re always “afraid” but their attacks on progressive women from Pelosi to Anita Dunn aren’t a sign of fear
Hahahahahaha! Aaaa-hahahahahaha!
Obama White House Communications Director Anita Dunn declares Chairman Mao one of her two favorite philosophers and jr is pissed a “progressive” communist is called out on it.
Then she says it was an old Lee Atwater reference to a Mao quote, but no one, including Media Matters, can produce anything on Lee Atwater referring to that quote of Mao’s.
That’s the kind of progressive we’re afraid of, jr.
‘Obama White House Communications Director Anita Dunn declares Chairman Mao one of her two favorite philosophers and jr is pissed a “progressive” communist is called out on it.’
Not much of a stretch there; she must be a Communist because she finds merit in Mao’s writings.
I guess that makes Bush a terrorist since he wasn’t worried about bin Laden, the architect of the greatest attack on American soil.
Oh no, no, no, jrfunky.
Not simply that she finds merit in Mao’s writings, but that she considers him one of her two favorite philosophers. Huge and damning difference.
And not only that. She feels so strongly about him that she’s quite compelled to share that admiration for him with a bunch of high school students.
Gosh; imagine High School students hearing Mao’s name and not immediately thinking of a horde of Chinese Communists streaming into America to overthrow your entire way of life.
She must be the greatest terrorist threat on Earth.
If only George Bush were in power to make sure your ports were patrolled by Dubai based security firms.
Shorter Dennis (yet again): “Hey, look over there!”
Even Fox News assholes are more adult than Dennis on this issue:
O’REILLY: Let’s get to Anita Dunn first. I don’t think Dunn is putting Mao Zedong up as a role model as a person, but as a strategist. Am I wrong there? Do you see it differently?
BRIT HUME, FOX NEWS SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, she didn’t say strategist, Bill. She said philosopher. And look, she may have misspoken. It’s a little hard to believe, as you suggest, that she really does admire Mao the man. But the way she put it was, you know, that for — when it came to political philosophy, this guy was obviously a Communist and as you pointed out a mass murderer as well, that’s his philosophy. That’s — that goes…
O’REILLY: But it was a philosophy, if you read it, Brit, and correct me if I’m wrong, she ties Mother Theresa in on the same theme that Mao Zedong.
HUME: Go your own way.
O’REILLY: Yeah, that’s right. Do it your own way.
HUME: Do it your own way, right.
O’REILLY: And you can overcome tremendous odds.
HUME: Right.
Who tha fuck is scared of Liz Cheney?
Who tha fuck is scared of Liz Cheney?
Well, she is extremely qualified. Extremely.
Even Fox News assholes are more adult than Dennis on this issue
When you sound less reasonable than Fox News personalities, that’s when you know you need psychiatric help.
Shorter Dennis: Tailgunner Joe was a piker!
Actually it was two out of those three, but who’s counting. (Certainly not the Supreme Court.)
C’mon, Wilbur, you need to get up earlier, dude.
And later down on those same transcripts; the transcripts that surprisingly cut off despite holding me to higher standards in the same regard:
Can’t believe you’d try to slip that by me, Wilbur. O’Reilly put up only mild resistance to Hume’s contention that this was a Kinsleyan gaffe for obviouos purposes of furthering the discussion, but you calling him a Fox News asshole but say he’s being an adult about it is humorous.
I’d suggest Dennis take a reading comprehension class, except he probably won’t understand the suggestion, being typed pick-chures on the magical glowing screen.
Anybody stupid enough to believe that liberals are afraid of Liz Cheney or Sarah Palin is probably stupid enough to believe that Anita Dunn is a Maoist.
Oh Dennis, I took it as a given that Fox newsies would try to get something negative out of it, because that’s what they do. Didn’t think that needed demonstrating. What was remarkable was that even so they’re less shitty about it than you.
Fox News, Wilbur. Fair and Balanced.
Fox News, Wilbur. Fair and Balanced.
False.
No, Fox News: more fair and balanced than Dennis (which isn’t saying much)
Obama White House Communications Director Anita Dunn declares Chairman Mao one of her two favorite philosophers and jr is pissed a “progressive” communist is called out on it.
Dennis, I’ve never seen anything so mindlessly robotic as your willingness to repeat anything and everything Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity tells you is the most dangerous thing evah! Unplug yourself, dude.
Fox is the only station to report on this and Fox is the only station singled out by Obama for his strategy of Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
Fox was the only station to report on Van Jones.
Fox was the only station to report on ACORN. Even Jon Stewart blasted the rest of the media lemmings for ignoring that story.
Who’s being mindlessly robotic, fafaroo? Of course you want to see Fox taken out, I understand that. But you haven’t thought it through enough to see where this kind of ‘destroy whatever gets in your way’ demagoguery will lead us, and just who or what administration will next use this sad example as a reason to take it to the next level. What’s to stop Obama himself later on from taking it to the next level? It blows me away that you think these Chicago politicians are going to get your full and hearty endorsement on bashing your hated Fox News and have them just stop there. You’re a lemming, fafaroo.
Fox was the only station to call Michelle Obama the President’s “baby momma”. Fox was the only station to claim Obama was educated in a Madrassa. Fox was the only station to call it a “terrorist fist jab”. Fox was… well, you get the picture.
Fox News, Wilbur. Fair and Balanced.
The constant dilemma of whom to believe: My own eyes and ears or an anonymous wingnut blog troll repeating pathetic talking points. Gosh, that’s [still] a toughie. And just where did Fox News get that “Fair and Balanced” label, anyway? They didn’t hang it on themselves did they?
Required reading on Fox News for Reality Based people:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/10/22/media/index.html
The whole thing’s good. Ultimate grafs:
Prepare yourselves for “Look over here/there” attempts to distract and patented false equivalences.
Fox was the only station to report on ACORN.
0.000004 seconds on Teh Google, first response:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/10/acorn.prostitution/
Fox is the only station to report on this and Fox is the only station singled out by Obama for his strategy of Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
Nice, Dennis. The old “Obama is an Alinksy radcial” line. How very original of you.
Dennis, go back over the list of stuff you just posted. I don’t think there’s a single one of them that matters, at all, in anyway, to the issues this country is dealing with right now. Not a one. In any way. You’d have to be a mindless drooling moron to think Dunn quote Mao, Van Jones doing something, whatever that was, and ACORN, matter at all.
What’s hilarious is you’re attacking Obama for getting all Alinksy on Fox “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” (Hilariously, I was accused of doing this to Jay Tea, by Jay Tea, on Wizbang just the other day, seem all you robots got the same programming update recently)
But Dennis, Anita Dunn, Van Jones and ACORN are far more accurate example of picking a target, freezing it, personalizing it and polarizing it.
Fox is doing exactly what you claim only an Alinsky radical commmie would do. Exactly. And it’s working. On you. You swallow it hook line and sinker every time. So much so, that you can decry the tactics of Alinksy in the same comment that you praise Fox for doing the exact same thing repeatedly.
You’re a robot, Dennis. They tell you what to screech and wail about and you do. Every time.
No one says that women voters “belong to the left”. What is indisputable is that one party supports gender equality and the other doesn’t. You cannot be anti-abortion and pro-equality, it is a basic contradiction in terms. But undoubtedly there are women who aren’t for gender equality, just as there are African-Americans who aren’t for racial equality. The Republican Party is for both groups.
No, Indeed my google search went directly to the newest revelation that Media Matters lame attempt to back the Philadelphia ACORN’s office’s version that they kicked the pimp and prostitute out of their downtown headquarters was completely bogus and a lie.
fafaroo, if those things don’t matter and that’s all Fox is good for and there are tons more important things to worry about, why the strategy to do damage to Fox? Every administration throughout history faced opposition from the media in some fashion, but this is unprecedented. And Obama is on video again just yesterday in an interview on NBC continuing the assault. Two full weeks now and no signs of it letting up.
Bill O’Reilly is correct:
Bill O’Reilly doesn’t like something Obama did? OMG STOP TEH PRESSES!!!!
You seem to think the President answering a question about something is an “assault”. Sheesh.
Oh…. Oliver. That’s EXACTLY the case you made just yesterday in your post about Dana Perino when she responded to a question about NBC News in a press gaggle. EXACT same case.
Busted.
The point was, two full weeks now and it’s still going on. Obama could’ve said he didn’t wish to address it any further and go to the next question, but he didn’t. That’s a pretty good indication he’s wants this to keep going, because he’s smart enough to know that answering keeps it in the news at least another day or so.
I do get the picture. Those were all last year’s battles. You guys, and apparently Obama and his advisors too, feverishly want to fight last year’s battles. Back during the campaign, when things were a whole easier for him.
He’s still in campaign mode. Times were good, then.
I get that picture.
Every administration throughout history faced opposition from the media in some fashion, but this is unprecedented.
Absolutely right, Dennis: Fox’s calculated and orchestrated campaign against the president is indeed unprecedented.
Remembrance of Things Past.
Glory Days.
Bill O’Reilly is correct:
No, he’s not.
If you honestly believe that, Wilbur, that Obama has to make an unprecedented assault to counter what he considers an unprecedented campaign against him, then you are supporting him for being extremely thin-skinned, and in light of the fact that, as Wilbur says, the only damage he’s sustained is an insignificant firing of Van Jones and a temporary defunding of ACORN, really, WTF is he doing then? A big deal about something that’s no more than a minor nuisance doesn’t make him look like the leader you guys thought you elected, especially with the jobs picture as bleak as it is. That only pisses people off and only gives FOX an opportunity to drive that point home more; an opening Obama doesn’t need right now.
Huge tactical error. I think you agree but agreeing with me is not something you are willing to to do right now. I understand that.
Bill O’Reilly is correct:
No, he’s not.
– Quibs
Yes, he is. (Part I.)
Who Else Has Obama Endorsed
Yes, he is. (Part II.)
Dick Cheney Rips Obama on the War
Today’s must read/ must see video.
Over there!
I dunno. GlennZilla presents a much better case than Bill O’Reilly. Just my opinion. Then again, I think Rush Limbaugh and Robert Stacy McCain are racist assholes. Others, for some reason, persistently disagree (well, or ignore the evidence).
Dick Cheney Rips Obama on the War
Yeah, Ol’ Deferrment Dick sure knows a lot about getting wars right. “It’s pretty well confirmed…”
fafaroo, if those things don’t matter and that’s all Fox is good for and there are tons more important things to worry about, why the strategy to do damage to Fox?
Dennis, the only thing Dunn, Jones, Acorn et al are good for is getting a rise out of robots like you. They are meaningless except as manufactured outrages against an administration instead of just reporting on the important issues of the day.
Fox and its personalities, pick an individual within the administration (personalize it!), the find a quote from that person, could be a decade old, could be a few days old and focus entirely on that one quote to exclusion of everything else they’ve ever said and done (freeze and isolate!) then they drone on and on and on about how radical and unAmerican this quote and this person really is (Polarize it!).
Then you come here parroting every word of it. You join in the attack and defend the tactic even as you condemn it in others.
Obama = Alinskyite!
Fox = legitimate news organization!
You’re a robot, Dennis. From death panels to the “Dunn Affair” you’re a total robot.
Rachel Maddow is calling Liz (not the lez) Cheney out, but so far Liz is too cowardly to appear.
Cowardly, wimpy, chicken-shit (similar to her chcken-shit Chicken-Hawk Dad), pearl-clutching, chicken-hearted, cowering, craven, dastardly, fainthearted, frightened, gutless, jittery, lacking courage, lily-livered, nervous, no guts, panicky, scared, shrinking, spineless, weak-kneed, worthless, yellow-bellied Liz Cheney.
And I love ow Rachel starts her interviews (after a brief, descriptive intro) with “Did I get anything wrong?”
So, one of the arguments about the “seriousness” of FOX is that they were full bore 24/7 on ACORN and Van Jones before the other networks started covering it. Is it a surprise that they’re going to push stories that their own people invented before others pick it up?
If that is supposedly such a damning argument against the other networks’ “balance”, then let’s go back to a real news story from 2006-2007, the US Attorney Scandal and the Bush Administration politicization of the Justice Department. Fox News lagged everybody on reporting this (certainly lagging TPM, the stellar investigation and connecting-the-dots of which exposed the truth in the first place), treating it as a nothing kerfuffle, just libs throwing stuff to see what would stick. Once the Administration couldn’t ignore it anymore, FOX went with the 24/7 “this is no different that Clinton! this is just a witch hunt!” angle. Where were the commentators on FOX seriously suggesting that there was something wrong here that merited investigation? If such a one existed, they were brought on merely to be subjected to withering, screaming derision for holding such a ridiculous view.
Yet this doesn’t indicate FOX isn’t a “real” news organization?
Robotic, fafaroo, was your fighting to the death with Sean D. Martin about the Professor Gates -Sergeant Crowley affair, not only not once giving in to anything other than the far-left standard blog fare, but going so far as to give him the treatment you’d only so far reserved for Jay Tea here. Both of you two are hard-headed Dutchmen as far as arguing goes and you both dig your teeth in like pit bulls, but he saw the folly of the left-wings’ typical knee-jerk reaction to blame the white guy and how frivolous acusations only make the left look bad. You dug in all the more. Sean won in the end and you never ackowledged that Gates looked like the lesser man in the whole affair.
You, my friend, are the robot.
You, my friend, are the robot.
ROFLMAO. No Dennis YOU’RE THE ROBOT! And I’m rubber and you’re glue …
Tap tap no earasies!!!!
BURN!!!!
Infinity!
Scandalous! Unheard of! No Republican president would ever stoop to meeting with ideologically like-minded opinion makers! Never!
Who Else Has Obama Endorsed
Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol, Paul Gigot, and George F. Will. Off the record, of course.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/22/malkin-off-the-record/
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/call-waaahhmbulance-wingnuts-are-upse
Indeed, ask Susie why she hasn’t issued a retraction for her post about her hometown ACORN office’s now-revealed lie that they kicked O’Keefe and Giles out right away.
Ask her how about the ethics complaint she filed ‘against our young filmmaker friend at his school’, and how that’s going.
Let me know, ok?
Media Matters was flgging this one too. Any retraction from them?
C’mon, link-boy. Give us the news. The real news, I mean. You know, the truth.
Not the hoaxes.
Huge tactical error.
Thanks for the concern.
http://crooksandliars.com/node/32204
Sound like anyone’s been parroting talking points?
Oh noes.
Dennis wants me to
look
over
there.
Whatever shall I do?
Indeed points over there.
Commenter asks Indeed just what it is that is over there.
Indeed responds that commenter just wants him to look over there.
Relevance!
Best name for Liz Cheney; BabyDick
Who could have predicted?
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910220028
Indeed, ask Susie why she hasn’t issued a retraction for her post about …
Ask her how about the …and how that’s going.
Almost forgot:
I do get the picture. Those were all last year’s battles.
Color me surprised Dennis finds combating racism to be passe.
Was Race-baiting part of the curriculum in your cartooning classes or something, Pollack?
Or were you just well-trained at the hand of your rude, petty, self-absorbed master?
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910220043
Schmair and schmalanced. Indeed.
Or were you just well-trained at the hand of your rude, petty, self-absorbed master?
Wait, so when a liberal impersonates someone else on the internet, it’s worse than murder 1. But if a conservative does it, it’s “rude, petty and self-absorbed” to fight back? What a piece of scum you are, Dennis.
Zython, this is the first time you’ve admitted to impersonating a conservative blogger by posting racist statements attributed to her. Admission is the first step in your recovery process and I’m glad for you, but the way you’re doing it here you seem to be defending it. Pollak’s master, Ted Rall, is far, far worse than those mild descriptives, as everyone on both sides of the ledger are aware, and anything he’d ever fight back on would generate far more caustic rhetoric from him than those mamby-pamby pejoratives. That’s what makes them amusing, not his defense.
Idiot.
Always late, always clueless.
I just noticed the “Pollack” thing Dennis. Is that another racist attempt at humor on your part?
Color me surprised.
I’ve never said or been racist about anything, Jaim; only white guys here who want to impress black people and feel the need to assuage their white guilt have made that charge, and they’ve never had anything with which to back it up with.
I mistakenly spelled it that way the very first time he made the mistake of trying to best me on a comment I made because I’ve never seen that common name spelled the way he spells his name, and he called me a dumbass for a spelling error. So I’ve continued spelling it that way. He knows that and I’ve never felt the need to explain it to anyone else like you who’s just looking to find anything you can call racist to look like a hero and show your loyalty on a blog that loves nothing more than making the same reactionary, baseless accusations. And you’ll notice that Pollak has never once made the stupid claim that adding the ‘c’, as that name is most commonly spelled, is racist.
Don’t take this as a personal attack and give us all another meltdown where you say you’re going to take a long break of what, two days, Jaim, but you’re not nearly as smart as you think you are.
Dennis, guys who threaten other commenters to a fight and then promptly back down should probably keep their mouths shut. I’m happy to stay away from personal things, but I know you aren’t capable of it. Therefore, I’ll happily remind everyone here of what a cowardly little bitch you are every time you try and avoid the substance of my comments. Which will be often, I’m sure.
I only pulled pulled my offer because you tried to weasel on it, Jaim. And I never backed down on meeting you; that can certainly still happen, my friend.
Seven months is an awfully long time for anyone to extend the terms on an offer and reasonably expect compliance. If you had even an inkling of experience in business, you’d know that. You should know that even as a teacher, but for some reason you don’t.
Tell you what, meet me in Fredericksburg or the lovely vacation spot of Winchester, VA, and we’ll discuss business law over a couple beers. My treat.
I only pulled pulled my offer because…
What’s that beeping noise?
Nope, I took your offer directly. And within hours you backed out of it.
Once a cowardly bitch, always a cowardly bitch.
But please, don’t let me keep you from your day’s work trolling somebody else’s website. I know it’s the defining act of your sorry life.
You and Indeed both are trolls in your own special ways. You act like you hate ‘trolls’ but you troll here looking to bicker with them (Indeed doesn’t bicker, he just posts links of other people who make points).
Tell me, do you want us here or do you not?
Because if you don’t you have a funny way of showing it. Aside from your meltdown, that is. Even a heartless guy like me felt sorry for you then.
Dennis- Instead of ignoring the substance of the post why don’t you try and address why women have consistently voted Democratic for more than 20 years, why every single minority group in America consistenly votes Democratic? I mean you could try and focus attention on the carefully parsed out of context remarks of a Whitehouse official or you could actually address the post.
Dennis- Instead of ignoring the substance of the post …
Dude, that’s his move!
socratic,
You are right and I do feel bad I didn’t write what I originally had a fairly lengthy post on what would’ve been the first post. I erased it and thought I’d wait to see how other people responded first out of politeness to the blogowner, then when Jaim said what he said I literally burst out laughing and had to respond to his stupidity.
I had already read Rubin’s article and enjoyed it, but not the one she referred to by Noemie Emery, which was also good. I didn’t think OW’s logic followed, a non-sequitor, and that making the case that women had voted for Democrats in the past was not a refutation of her thesis at all.
In particular he highlighted and took issue with this statement by Rubin:
By reverting to past history seems to me to be admitting you think women do belong to the Left, and there was nothing to be afraid of, which is something no woman wants to have assumed about them. But I was hoping another woman might have reminded him of that instead of me.
“Best name for Liz Cheney; BabyDick”
“Clittydick”
Shorter Dennis: IOKIYAR
Always late
You ever read Dilbert? I think the one where the late VP forces his subordinates to wait on him while he teaches himself to play the banjo illustrates this phenomenon nicely.
always clueless.
Bold words for someone who didn’t even read his own link.
Zython, this is the first time you’ve admitted to impersonating a conservative blogger by posting racist statements attributed to her.
Still grasping at straws, I see. Well, as I’ve said before, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Stoner Zython,
Somehow you’ve managed to be late and clueless twice in one day.
That may be a first for you.
Dennis, do you even know what a troll is? And I’ll ask you again, how much does George Soros pay you to spend hours a day embarrassing yourself and your party?
Because if he isn’t paying you, you’re a bigger loser than I thought. Which is kind of hard to fathom.