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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185934</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dennis trolls on behalf of another troll by reposting an earlier post accusing someone of trolling on behalf of the site’s host.&lt;/i&gt;

Dennis is quite the stalker. That&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dennis trolls on behalf of another troll by reposting an earlier post accusing someone of trolling on behalf of the site’s host.</i></p>
<p>Dennis is quite the stalker. That&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185928</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Quaker, you wanna discuss my article with me, feel free to discuss it on my article. &lt;/em&gt;

What? You want me to come over to your place to give you a spanking? 

Say &quot;pretty please&quot; Mr. Tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Quaker, you wanna discuss my article with me, feel free to discuss it on my article. </em></p>
<p>What? You want me to come over to your place to give you a spanking? </p>
<p>Say &#8220;pretty please&#8221; Mr. Tea.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185927</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Here, I’d rather hear someone defend Master Economist Willis’ plan to cover health insurance on “a few cents on your pay stub.&lt;/em&gt;

So &quot;lost my taste for debate&quot; is already inoperative? I can&#039;t keep up, Mr. Tea.

I think we&#039;ve come full circle now. When I offered a comment on OWs post (and your loony reaction to it) you decided you wanted to discuss Constitutional issues. When commenters answered you on that score, you suddenly &quot;lost your taste for debate.&quot; 

And now you&#039;re back to wondering why no one takes your point seriously?

Go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Here, I’d rather hear someone defend Master Economist Willis’ plan to cover health insurance on “a few cents on your pay stub.</em></p>
<p>So &#8220;lost my taste for debate&#8221; is already inoperative? I can&#8217;t keep up, Mr. Tea.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve come full circle now. When I offered a comment on OWs post (and your loony reaction to it) you decided you wanted to discuss Constitutional issues. When commenters answered you on that score, you suddenly &#8220;lost your taste for debate.&#8221; </p>
<p>And now you&#8217;re back to wondering why no one takes your point seriously?</p>
<p>Go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185926</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, gimme your IP and I&#039;ll un-ban you. I didn&#039;t do it, but I think I can un-do it.

Quaker, you wanna discuss my article with me, feel free to discuss it on my article. Here, I&#039;d rather hear someone defend Master Economist Willis&#039; plan to cover health insurance on &quot;a few cents on your pay stub.&quot;

That&#039;s downright hysterical.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, gimme your IP and I&#8217;ll un-ban you. I didn&#8217;t do it, but I think I can un-do it.</p>
<p>Quaker, you wanna discuss my article with me, feel free to discuss it on my article. Here, I&#8217;d rather hear someone defend Master Economist Willis&#8217; plan to cover health insurance on &#8220;a few cents on your pay stub.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s downright hysterical.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s like a freakin’ hall of mirrors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lol.  That&#039;s pretty good, too, Quibs. Not as good as Jay Tea&#039;s, but quite witty.  Touche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s like a freakin’ hall of mirrors.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lol.  That&#8217;s pretty good, too, Quibs. Not as good as Jay Tea&#8217;s, but quite witty.  Touche.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185920</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the advice, Dennis. Gee, why didn&#039;t I think of that?

Oh, yeah, I did.

So I got banned. No big deal. But when Mr Tea claimed here that you &quot;have to really really work at it,&quot; I decided to, you know, call bullshit.

Oliver&#039;s is the only site I know of with such a tolerant policy. You could never get away with dissing Mr Tea&#039;s boss like you do Oliver.

Sorry to veer off-topic. Please carry on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the advice, Dennis. Gee, why didn&#8217;t I think of that?</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, I did.</p>
<p>So I got banned. No big deal. But when Mr Tea claimed here that you &#8220;have to really really work at it,&#8221; I decided to, you know, call bullshit.</p>
<p>Oliver&#8217;s is the only site I know of with such a tolerant policy. You could never get away with dissing Mr Tea&#8217;s boss like you do Oliver.</p>
<p>Sorry to veer off-topic. Please carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called “debate” in this particular cesspool.&lt;/i&gt;

Hilarious. Jay Tea, you truly are one of the internet&#039;s great morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called “debate” in this particular cesspool.</i></p>
<p>Hilarious. Jay Tea, you truly are one of the internet&#8217;s great morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185868</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!

Dennis trolls on behalf of another troll by reposting an earlier post accusing someone of trolling on behalf of the site&#039;s host.

It&#039;s like a freakin&#039; hall of mirrors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!</p>
<p>Dennis trolls on behalf of another troll by reposting an earlier post accusing someone of trolling on behalf of the site&#8217;s host.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like a freakin&#8217; hall of mirrors.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185866</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called “debate” in this particular cesspool. &lt;/em&gt;

I see. First it&#039;s &quot;Why won&#039;t anyone debate me?&quot; Then it&#039;s &quot;I want to change the subject!&quot; Now it&#039;s &quot;I&#039;ve lost my taste for debate.&quot;

Go away, Mr. Tea. Go back to WhizBag and tell your little friends how much smarter you are than everyone else. Anyone undiscriminating enough to visit there might actually believe you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called “debate” in this particular cesspool. </em></p>
<p>I see. First it&#8217;s &#8220;Why won&#8217;t anyone debate me?&#8221; Then it&#8217;s &#8220;I want to change the subject!&#8221; Now it&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;ve lost my taste for debate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Go away, Mr. Tea. Go back to WhizBag and tell your little friends how much smarter you are than everyone else. Anyone undiscriminating enough to visit there might actually believe you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Which explains why you’re here. Somehow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He&#039;s here because the blog owner called him out- out of the blue, Indeed.

Of all the stupid comments you make, that one is close to being the all-time stupidest.
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Jay Tea, I hope you don&#039;t mind me reposting one of your best posts ever here, of which there are many:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

“Indeed” is a true rara avis — a unique specimen of troll. He trolls on the side of the site’s owner. I don’t think I’ve ever seen his like.

I think I could have died content had I not seen it, though…

J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Which explains why you’re here. Somehow.</p></blockquote>
<p>He&#8217;s here because the blog owner called him out- out of the blue, Indeed.</p>
<p>Of all the stupid comments you make, that one is close to being the all-time stupidest.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Jay Tea, I hope you don&#8217;t mind me reposting one of your best posts ever here, of which there are many:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>“Indeed” is a true rara avis — a unique specimen of troll. He trolls on the side of the site’s owner. I don’t think I’ve ever seen his like.</p>
<p>I think I could have died content had I not seen it, though…</p>
<p>J.
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185853</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called “debate” in this particular cesspool. &lt;/i&gt;

Which explains why you&#039;re here. Somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called “debate” in this particular cesspool. </i></p>
<p>Which explains why you&#8217;re here. Somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185851</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called &quot;debate&quot; in this particular cesspool. 

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Quaker; lost my taste for what is laughingly called &#8220;debate&#8221; in this particular cesspool. </p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185783</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Demanding that every individual buy health insurance is NOT spelled out in the Constitution — not even in the “penumbras.”&lt;/em&gt;

Pig stupid is no way to go through life, Mr. Tea.

You&#039;re engaging in one of your favorite dodges here--telling only half the story. What&#039;s the &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; half of the &quot;demand that every individual buy health insurance&quot; part of the reform plan, hm?

I don&#039;t have the patience today to try to drag it out of you, so I&#039;ll answer my own question. The other half is: &quot;or pay a tax.&quot; Under the reform plan you can a) buy health insurance or b) pay a tax. The Constitution grants Congress the authority to levy taxes--and to grant exemptions from taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Demanding that every individual buy health insurance is NOT spelled out in the Constitution — not even in the “penumbras.”</em></p>
<p>Pig stupid is no way to go through life, Mr. Tea.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re engaging in one of your favorite dodges here&#8211;telling only half the story. What&#8217;s the <em>other</em> half of the &#8220;demand that every individual buy health insurance&#8221; part of the reform plan, hm?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the patience today to try to drag it out of you, so I&#8217;ll answer my own question. The other half is: &#8220;or pay a tax.&#8221; Under the reform plan you can a) buy health insurance or b) pay a tax. The Constitution grants Congress the authority to levy taxes&#8211;and to grant exemptions from taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185749</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, why don&#039;t you sent them an email and ask to get your IP address reinstated instead of taking it personally?

Unless you&#039;d rather just take it personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, why don&#8217;t you sent them an email and ask to get your IP address reinstated instead of taking it personally?</p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;d rather just take it personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185748</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s probably because of the oh-so-liberal commenting policy at Wizbang, where you have to really really work at it to get banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s probably because of the oh-so-liberal commenting policy at Wizbang, where you have to really really work at it to get banned.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrob</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185731</link>
		<dc:creator>liberalrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>55 comments here, 12 there.  Hmm.  And not one of those 12 is in opposition to the premise.  Hmm again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55 comments here, 12 there.  Hmm.  And not one of those 12 is in opposition to the premise.  Hmm again.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrob</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185730</link>
		<dc:creator>liberalrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Jay is not only a &quot;tenther,&quot; he&#039;s a &quot;ninther&quot; as well.

Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Jay is not only a &#8220;tenther,&#8221; he&#8217;s a &#8220;ninther&#8221; as well.</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185712</link>
		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How did I know you’d run to the Interstate Commerce clause? Oh, yeah, because that’s the default for all the big government types.&lt;/i&gt;

So you know the answer before you asked your question? Instead of proceeding straight into the the typical conservative claptrap you just regurgitated? 

Jay Tea, if the mandatory coverage requirement becomes law, it will probably be challenged in court and the Supreme Court will probably end up hearing many different arguments about what the commerce clause will and will not allow. 

Would you like to have that debate now in this thread? Because I&#039;m game if you are. 

But you&#039;re going to have to do lot better than citing the clause and going &quot;nyah, nyah, nyah.&quot;

You&#039;re going to have to actually do some homework and present an argument with supporting legal decisions etc. etc. 

Do you think you can do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How did I know you’d run to the Interstate Commerce clause? Oh, yeah, because that’s the default for all the big government types.</i></p>
<p>So you know the answer before you asked your question? Instead of proceeding straight into the the typical conservative claptrap you just regurgitated? </p>
<p>Jay Tea, if the mandatory coverage requirement becomes law, it will probably be challenged in court and the Supreme Court will probably end up hearing many different arguments about what the commerce clause will and will not allow. </p>
<p>Would you like to have that debate now in this thread? Because I&#8217;m game if you are. </p>
<p>But you&#8217;re going to have to do lot better than citing the clause and going &#8220;nyah, nyah, nyah.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re going to have to actually do some homework and present an argument with supporting legal decisions etc. etc. </p>
<p>Do you think you can do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185705</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fafaroo, that&#039;s the INTERSTATE commerce clause. As in, &quot;commerce that involves crossing a state line.&quot; And that&#039;s been stretched well past its breaking point a long time ago.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:

&lt;i&gt;To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;&lt;/i&gt;

To stretch it like you cite is a violation of the 9th Amendment:

&lt;i&gt;The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.&lt;/i&gt;

Demanding that every individual buy health insurance is NOT spelled out in the Constitution -- not even in the &quot;penumbras.&quot;

How did I know you&#039;d run to the Interstate Commerce clause? Oh, yeah, because that&#039;s the default for all the big government types.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fafaroo, that&#8217;s the INTERSTATE commerce clause. As in, &#8220;commerce that involves crossing a state line.&#8221; And that&#8217;s been stretched well past its breaking point a long time ago.</p>
<p>Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:</p>
<p><i>To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;</i></p>
<p>To stretch it like you cite is a violation of the 9th Amendment:</p>
<p><i>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.</i></p>
<p>Demanding that every individual buy health insurance is NOT spelled out in the Constitution &#8212; not even in the &#8220;penumbras.&#8221;</p>
<p>How did I know you&#8217;d run to the Interstate Commerce clause? Oh, yeah, because that&#8217;s the default for all the big government types.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/18/obamacare-just-like-vietnam/#comment-185701</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beirut embassy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beirut embassy?</p>
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