’)Conservatives are now very upset that the NFL has rejected their very racist ideological leader, Rush Limbaugh. So now expect to see some attacks on that most American of institutions, the NFL. Because anything that does not march in lockstep with their ideological rigidity and knee-jerk hatred of the “other” is something they must attack, from the President of the United States right on down to the National Football League.
Rules are rules. The way I understand it, ALL NFL owners have to approve of the purchase. If one doesn’t, the transaction doesn’t happen. If anyone should be respectful of rules, it should be the Right with all their bellowing about law, rules, and moral character.
The sad thing is that these nut wingers (to me, they are now a third party) can attack everything that is “America,” and there will still be people that will agree with them. Why can’t these MORANS learn?
Rush has every right to be a drug-addicted racist buffoon. Those of us in polite society, including NFL franchise owners, have the right to not to allow a drug-addicted racist buffoon into their club.
Like Jaim said… They make the rules but the Dittoheads can’t stand the thought. My suggestion: Become the commisioner of the NFL and change the rules or STFU.
Social conservatives heart being divorced 3 times
Oliver, way to spread the hate.
You are truly an idiot.
Pretty rich coming from a blogger who attacks the NFL and their owners regularly.
Interestingly enough, Oliver has expressed no interest in joining the NFL in any capacity at any point. If and when he does, the NFL has just as much of a right to say “no” to him as they do to Rush.
Joaquin, call me an idiot,call other liberal commenters idiots, call ALL liberals idiots. But don’t call the host an idiot, idiot.
“Pretty rich coming from a blogger who attacks the NFL and their owners regularly.”
Dan Snyder is an idiot, but he isn’t a racist. But way to miss the point yet again.
Oliver, way to spread the hate.
Because conservatives are, after all, so filled with love. In fact, I call the GOP the Party of Love.
No doubt all his cult followers will flock to his aid. The rules are pretty simple though no reason to get bent out of shape over it.
“Dan Snyder is an idiot, but he isn’t a racist.[...]”
Well, except for the matter of selling licensed merchandise adorned with a racial slur.
I’d be happy to see him go.
Because anything that does not march in lockstep with the Left’s ideological rigidity and knee-jerk hatred of the “other” is something Democratics must attack
/fixed
And that the Redskins were a segregated team up until 1962, the last NFL franchise at the time to integrate, and even then, under the threat of civil rights legal action.
For an English teacher, you seem to have problems with it’s comprehension, Jaim.
The title of the post is: “Someday Soon They’ll Attack Apple Pie”
The commentary was this:
That now conservatives will actually start attacking the NFL. We’ll actually attack the President of the United States right on down to the NFL, and gosh, soon it will be apple pie eventually.
What political blog in existence today has done more attacking presidents of the United States and the NFL more than this one, in your opinion?
“Well, except for the matter of selling licensed merchandise adorned with a racial slur.”
A little OT. When I lived in DC in the early 80s, I heard Russell Means (American Indian Movement) interviewed. He said he was flattered that the nation’s capital would want to honor Native Americans, that the logo was a dignified likeness, and he didn’t have any problem with ‘Redskins.’ On the other hand, he said he wasn’t crazy about Chief Knock-a-Homa and Chief Wahoo.
Pretty rich coming from a blogger who attacks the NFL and their owners regularly.
Wow. Look at all those links and sources and citations. Rich, isn’t it?
On the other hand, he said he wasn’t crazy about Chief Knock-a-Homa and Chief Wahoo.
An irony, of course, being that “Braves” is a nickname with positive connotations and not a negative epithet as “Redskins” is.
Next thing you know, conservatives will be attacking Republican Lindsey Graham.
The e’er klassy wingnutz are now comparing Rush Limbaugh to…Martin Luther King, Jr. I wish I were kidding:
http://zandarvts.blogspot.com/2009/10/sack-attack.html
Would Rush really have been any worse than Daniel Snyder?
Would Rush really have been any worse than Daniel Snyder?
Verily. And Snyder’s horrible. Have you not been paying attention?
“An irony, of course, being that “Braves” is a nickname with positive connotations and not a negative epithet as “Redskins” is.”
Not true. The term redskin does not have racist or derogatory origins.
http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf
Not true. The term redskin does not have racist or derogatory origins.
How about since then?
“How about since then?”
i don’t understand how a word used by a group of people as a term of self-identification for over two hundred years can all of a sudden (at least in comparison to the period of time it was used) be considered a slur.
i don’t understand how a word used by a group of people as a term of self-identification for over two hundred years can all of a sudden (at least in comparison to the period of time it was used) be considered a slur.
Are you serious? If so, why don’t you ask around?
“Are you serious? If so, why don’t you ask around?”
I don’t understand why i need to ask around.
I don’t understand why i need to ask around.
Maybe you should start with Queer. (Do you understand now?)
“Maybe you should start with Queer. (Do you understand now?)”
I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about.
I have been paying attention. And if NFL owners let Snyder into the club, don’t see anything wrong with Limbaugh. Heck, maybe he’d turn out to know how to run a football team.
I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about.
Good grief. You don’t think the popular connotation of words can change over time?
Heck, maybe he’d turn out to know how to run a football team.
Because the potential for running a football team somehow excuses decades of unrepentant serial racism. Good call. Ah, the “He made the trains run on time” argument. The classics will be with us always.
the poor wittle dittoheads are sulking that their master couldn’t buy a football team, waaaaaaaaaaaa!
Make sure you listen really close today, dittoheads. Make some notes and write down what your leader says about how it’s SO unfair that he got humiliated and rejected on such a level. Because it’s not his fault at all, is it?
No sir. It has to be those pesky libruls again.
And if NFL owners let Snyder into the club, don’t see anything wrong with Limbaugh.
You honestly don’t see a difference? Really?
What did you know of Dan Snyder in 1999? Apart from ‘very rich businessman?’
It’s not what Limbaugh is saying, but what the liberals are saying that will forever be available for all to see next time some loud-mouth liberal decides to become an owner of a sports franchise, Burn.
Liberal blogs and hypocritical sports journalists and MSNBC will either have to shut up or eat crow.
My guess is they eat the crow, equivocate, cite the nuance, and then blab away. And Sheila Jackson Lee will be mysteriously unavailable for comment.
(headdesk)
How the NFL Gets Race Right (and Rush doesn’t) http://bit.ly/4GJ4G
This is a no-brainer guys.
Limbaugh got shit-canned from the NFL bid for the Rams for the same reason that liberal Mark Cuban got shit-canned from his MLB bid for the Cubs: the controversial shit-storms that follow Limbaugh (and which drive his ratings) on the radio and the shit-storms that Cuban kicked up as the owner of the Mavericks does not sit well with the rather conservative ownership base of both the NFL and MLB. These people are controversy-averse and very reluctant to do anything that would cause even more scrutiny on the Hill than they already have.
It was pretty predictable that Limbaugh would claim he is a victim of the liberal elite. That’s what he does so well. I suppose it was also pretty predictable that the lemmings would nod along and carry on with their ‘you da man’ mega dittoes.
And btw, redskins is a perjorative and has been used as one since at the last 50 years. Watch any western movie from the 30s on and any tv western from the 50s and 60s and you never heard the word used in anything but a perjorative. To claim otherwise is just moronic.
some loud-mouth liberal decides to become an owner of a sports franchise
Ah, yes, because we all know that billionaires who buy sports teams are flaming liberals.
Name one. Just one.
It’s not what Limbaugh is saying, but what the liberals are saying that will forever be available for all to see next time some loud-mouth liberal decides to become an owner of a sports franchise, Burn.
If you say so.
Let us know when that happens. Be sure to catalog all of the long and well-documented history of inflammatory language from the as yet mythical “loud-mouth liberal.” Perhaps you could start with that libtard asshole Dan Rooney. Good luck!
Mark Cuban.
Next question.
Wow. So many citations and links. So many.
Also, Burn:
The Fergalicious:
What do you want a citation of? That Mark Cuban is a billionaire, that he is a sports franchise owner, or that he is a flaming liberal?
And for a guy that quotes people falsely knowingly without citation because you know none exist, you certainly have a curious obsession with asking for them yourself.
I don’t think I can even count ‘em all there’s so many.
The Maha Rushie’s lawyers may be soon asking OW to fork over your IP address, Indeed.
You know English, this might be a good time to join Jaim in the South Koean ESL program.
I’ve attacked the NFL? When? Stop lying so much. I’ve attacked Dan Snyder for being a terrible owner of the franchise I love, and I’ve attacked the Dallas Cowboys because they represent everything wrong with life on earth, but I haven’t attacked the NFL for not admitting a loudmouth racist douchebag to the ownership club, that’s what the right is doing now.
BTW, the grasping of straws over Fergie is HILARIOUS. Black Eyed Peas is a multicultural rap/hip group with the kind of people Rush looks at and thinks “is that the help?”
Maybe Dave Checketts really doesn’t want to buy the St. Louis Rams.
Why else would he have included both Rush Limbaugh and, reportedly, George Soros in the group cobbling together the money to make the purchase?
If, after all, Limbaugh is not eligible to become part owner of a team due to polarizing and divisive comments, Soros’ comparison of the Bush administration to the Nazi regime arguably merits that same outcome.
But, per Bloomberg.com, Soros is part of the Checketts group, too.
Bottom line? Checketts should have done more homework before piecing together his investment group. All he needed to do was call the league office or maybe a few owners to get a feel for whether this kind of thing would fly.
With Limbaugh now out, it’s likely only a matter of time before Soros will have to go as well. Even if the reaction to Soros’ involvement isn’t as sharp and immediate, it only takes nine of 32 “no” votes from the full league ownership to kill the deal — and there probably are at least nine Republican owners who believe that, if Limbaugh isn’t fit to own part of a team, Soros isn’t, either.
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/21/three-more-nfl-notes/
Idiot. You confuse a critique with an attack. If I had said the lottery was proof that the NFL was a den of sin and should be destroyed by a flood, you might have a point. Instead I said what I said – a critique of where I think the NFL went wrong.
Lord, you are like a gift proving the inherent stupidity of conservative arguments.
On one hand Soros, funder of social and political causes.
On the other hand Limbaugh, bigot, sexist, and homophobe with a 20+ year track record of public statements.
Yeah, same thing.
C’mon, Oliver, I love looking at Fergie and hearing her sing, in that order, but she once peed on stage. The point is Goodell is full of shit to be talking about “high standards”.
but she once peed on stage
And Rush spews verbal diarrhea on air 3 hrs a day.
but she once peed on stage
What if she had to go real bad?
The irony is absolutely delicious.
‘… it looked really scummy to be promoting lotto scratchoffs during an NFL game.’
Of course, wagering has nothing to do with the NFL’s popularity.
Yeah, and what is your charge that conservatives will be attacking the NFL in an un-American way? You think now because Rush didn’t get a franchise and the league president is a wimpy hypocrite that we want to see the NFL die on the vine, and then when it does stop eating apple pie on Thanksgiving Day and talk to our mother-in-law’s all afternoon instead of watching the Cowboys?
You think now because Rush didn’t get a franchise and the league president is a wimpy hypocrite that we want to see the NFL die on the vine, and then when it does stop eating apple pie on Thanksgiving Day and talk to our mother-in-law’s all afternoon instead of watching the Cowboys?
Um…
Also.
You’re just equivocating. People thinking Goodell screwed up in his decision yesterday are just doing the same thing as you are, critiquing where they think he and the NFL went wrong.
How and when did the reason go from his racist comments to his ‘polarizing and divisive’ comments? He was denied because of his history of making racist comments, not because he said he likes Starbucks coffee more than Dunkin Donuts.
Mark Cuban, how could I forget? Ok, I’ll give you that one. He’s rather loopy and certainly has a history of saying silly things, but I don’t think he’s got a huge track record of saying racially charged insults and blather. I could be wrong though.
Either way, Limpballs and his gushing fanboys like Denis need to remember their conservative mantra…take responsibility for your words and actions. That means, your words will resonate out in the public ether. Sure, you can say whatever you want but don’t expect no fallout.
But Limpballs cannot get it through his Oxy-clean brain why he got smacked down…or maybe he did but he knows how dumb his audience is, so he goes on another long winded rant in character about how it’s not his fault, liberals are evil, boo hoo hoo.
And over at some other shithole wingnut blog, they are saying “we’re all rush limpballs now!”
I love it. The leader of the GOP cannot buy a football team, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
You are wrong.
Report: Cuban called Martin a ‘thug’
And he was talking to Kenyon Martin’s mother.
Oh I would love it for the redstate morons to boycott the NFL. Go ahead, see if anyone cares. You want to be mocked even more than you already are?
Maybe they could organize protests out in front of stadiums every Sunday, holding big signs that read “Librul Fashists prevent Rush from buying a team” or “Fergie said it too!”
“Next thing you know, conservatives will be attacking Republican Lindsey Graham”
Conservatives should attack Graham. Conservatives should be attacking most of the weasels in the GOP especially if they support billion dollar tax schemes that make us poorer, less competitive, and more in debted.
Dennis, do not stoop to their level. Not only is Kenyon Martin a thug, but being a thug has nothing to do with race.
So Cuban called someone a thug. Wow, the horror. Did he say it on the air with millions of people listening, or did he say it directly?
Did he call him a gang member or criminal? Did he compare him to some looter or rioter? Did he tell him to pull the bone from his nose?
Dennis, just give it up. Really. You’re just going to get more upset realizing your hero has another failure in his quest to attach himself to a pro sports team. He’s finished. No team will have anything to do with him, ever.
And he still has to watch Keith Olbermann call highlights on Sunday. Oh, the burn, it hurts the Limpballs!
Actually, I would love to see Rush go after the Redskins. That conundrum for Skins fans would provide endless entertainment.
Yup:
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=10&year=2009&base_name=confusion_in_dittoland_as_limb
Indeed.
They’re like the guy in the great “Fastbreak” who couldn’t figure out why he got slugged.
because (a) racism is bad and (b) liberals are bad (c) racism is a quality possessed by liberals. By definition, conservatives cannot be racist, because they are good, unlike liberals, and therefore nothing Rush Limbaugh says is racist.
Sound like anyone you know?
Burn, you’re an ass. You asked for one billionaire flaming liberal and I gave you one, and another one who’s a multi-millionaire, and now you want to equivocate on what they did and compare them to Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh I think will manage whether he has a team or not. And he’ll do more for America and Americans in one day than you will in a lifetime, my friend.
And he’ll do more for America and Americans in one day than you will in a lifetime, my friend.
In comedy, intentional or otherwise, timing is everything. And some guys got it. Bravo Dennis, for your unintentional, yet splendid comedic timing.
They complained about actual things he said about black people that made him an inappropriate candidate to own a team
Except those things he “actually” said … were fabricated in an attempt to smear him.
He’s been speaking into a microphone 3 hours a day every day for 21 years. According to you, there should be *PLENTY* of material. Instead, opponents were forced to rely on “fake but accurate” quotes. Because Limbaugh’s words, despite your protestations, aren’t as incendiary as you claim them to be.
HuffPo May Retract Libel of Limbaugh at 6:00pm; Will CNN’s Sanchez Follow?
Better start looking for some legal representation, Indeed.
Except those things he “actually” said … were fabricated in an attempt to smear him.
http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/rush_limbaugh
http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/
And such as?
SaveFarris: He’s been speaking into a microphone 3 hours a day every day for 21 years. According to you, there should be *PLENTY* of material.
And there is.
Poor Dennis. Jaim, you didn’t even give him a cookie for coming up with the one rich liberal? For shame.
Rush Limbaugh I think will manage whether he has a team or not.
He’ll cry into his hookers’ laps for weeks over this one. Oh, the pain. The humiliation, the rejection. I guess another trip to the Dominican Republic will solve his woes.
His whole life, he’s wanted to do one thing, be a sports announcer. And he failed. So the next best thing, being a team owner, failed too. Badly. And in public. A complete and utter repudiation of everything he spouts and stands for.
And all his fanboys are screaming oppression of free speech? You gotta be kidding.
It’s called action/reaction. I thought Cons always said liberals were the whiners and crybabies? Who is crying now? All of you, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Go ahead and boycott the NFL, like that would make any difference. Maybe it will be as effective as the wingnut boycott of Disney…(chuckles)
And he’ll do more for America and Americans in one day than you will in a lifetime, my friend.
Uh huh. Rousing up bitter dumb white people every day is an accomplishment? Those people who listen to him are suckers, plain and simple. He cares about one thing, Rush. NOthing else. He gets the rubes all worked up so they can have a reason to blame someone for their shitty, boring suburban lives and he gets millions of dollars, which he cannot leave to anyone because no woman would accept his rotten seed, at least one he didn’t pay for. And now, no team to call his own.
Your poor hero. Boo freakin hoo.
I love watching you flail and scream over this.
Such as:
Flashback: MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Touted False Limbaugh Quote in June
Indeed logic:
***Editor’s note–I am still looking into the origin of this quote by Indeed. It sounds like something he would say. Also, he has not denied saying it.–Dennis
There are plenty of quotes that the vulgar pigfucker has said that aren’t made up. He didn’t just say one thing either on a slip up.
Poor wingnuts. You guys just don’t know when to quit. It’s over for him, okay? He lost this one. And he will NEVER have the chance again. So just walk away. You will gain absolutely nothing but frustration if you keep this one alive. Go ahead, make him out to be the victim here. It’s what you do best. “It’s not MY fault! WAAAAAAAA!”
Knowing how wingnuts operate, you guys attached yourselves to him. You are Rush, he is you. You guys put your leaders on pedestals and act as if they are gods, not to ever be spoken to in an ill-manner. You did it with Bush, you did it with Palin, but you save the best lunacy for fucking talk radio and TV hosts!
This is the direction of the conservative movement in this country…how telling.
Also, he has not denied saying it
I never said that.
I also admitted when I was in error, or upon learning or realizing that I had attributed a quote to anyone in error:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/13/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-slaps-down-rush-limbaugh/#comment-184601
and
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/13/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-slaps-down-rush-limbaugh/#comment-184384
I will endeavor to do the same forthwith should future events merit such action.
I sincerely apologize (again) to any and all who were misrepresented and take full responsibility for putting my trust in other publications. I hope any and all commenters will do likewise when they realize they make a mistake or ad hominem attack, or engage in general douchiness.
I never said that.
Or wrote it, let the record show.
Burn, you’re a racist POS.
Last time libs tried to screw him he ended up donating $4.2mm to the Marine Corps- Law Enforcement Foundation. You’d probably be surprised to learn this, but he didn’t stipulate that the money only went to aid bitter dumb white people and their bitter dumb white families, either.
And try calulating what whatever you think he makes- $50-60 million+ a year by whatever you think his effective tax rate is plus his state tax rate in New York and calculate what goes out in taxes for one day for him. Then estimate how that money gets spent or goes to his various charities that as far as I know, aren’t stipulated to go to bitter dumb white people. Then tell me in your typically racist way how he is a failure of a human and how you’re making a bigger contribution to America and Americans’ betterment than he is, please.
That is a lie and you are a liar.
I told you in the early morning that quote was a fabrication and that no one had sourced it and where it got started on the internet by a cretin HuffPo blogger, and you kept using it all day long.
You are a liar, Indeed.
If the NFL has such a problem with Limbaugh, why was he even allowed in the booth just a couple of years back?
Yeah, I know that now it’s just a tad different because of ownership, but if he’s such a pariah, why was he allowed in the booth to broadcast?
Oliver…
Hick, Oliver didn’t mean what he said about etiquette on the blog. Don’t waste your time.
The game is over, Dennis. You lost this one. Badly at that. The park is closed, and the people have left but you still want to hang around and bitch about a bad call?
It doesn’t work that way in reality.
Reality says, REJECTED, BITCH! So choke on that and make all the excuses you want. It’s OVER.
Rush loses, again. Dittoheads cry like bitches.
Don’t worry. I am sure next week you wingnuts will find something else in Obama’s America that will get you all worked up into a lather.
You’ve been crying for almost a year straight now. Don’t you babies ever go to sleep after all this wailing?
Buzz,
Just a friendly reminder.
Let me ask again.
If the NFL has such a problem with Limbaugh, why was he even allowed in the booth just a couple of years back?
Yeah, I know that now it’s just a tad different because of ownership, but if he’s such a pariah, why was he allowed in the booth to broadcast? Why was he allowed to be one of the voices of the NFL?
jaoquin, was he in the booth, too? I only remember his stint on ESPN’s countdown.
If the NFL has such a problem with Limbaugh, why was he even allowed in the booth just a couple of years back?
Because they wanted to try ’something different’, which included that other complete disaster, Dennis Miller. How long did that last? I remember it too well, listening to Miller try and be funny and it was downright painful to endure. So they chucked him aside too. Good.
Limpballs blew it because he was too fucking stupid and he couldn’t help himself. He just HAD to bring up the race issue about McNabb, which cost him that gig. The NFL runs a tight ship.
Now here’s the thing…left/right/center. whoever, when football is on, we talk FOOTBALL. Not politics, not jobs, not money, not anything else than football. If Rush just talked about the game, he might not have lost that spot as soon as he did.
That’s why we like it so much, because it’s the time of day when we get to leave all the other bullshit aside and focus on the games.
Oliver puts up an NFL related thread and people who flame each other mercilessly here drop all of it, and we talk football. I like that. We do have common ground. Now, of course we’ll go to the mat trashing each others teams, but still, it’s football talk and football alone.
Noting my guilt, but the flaming toward me has been ramping up rapidly, too, by the usual cast of character who think they’ve been granted immunity.
Ha. You guys are more bitter now than you were the last eight years, and that’s an extraordinary accomplishment.
But, he was in the booth doing games, and if I remember correctly, he did quite a few. Whether he blew it or not is irrelevant.
I guess what I’m getting at is that the NFL had no problem with him then, but they have a problem with him now. His act has changed for the worse in the last couple of years.
Maybe there is another group the NFL is more interested in??
Whether he blew it or not is irrelevant.
Uh, no. it’s 100% relevant. It’s the reason ESPN fired him because he didn’t shut his mouth when he should have by bringing up a subject he should not have.
Again, he fucked up and suffered the consequences. The NFL does not like to make waves. And I don’t recall hearing Ron Jawaorski talk about tax cuts. If you are part of the team that calls the game, then stick to the goddamn script and talk football. Not race, class, media, etc.
Rush couldn’t do this, and that’s why he got fired.
Dennis, dear, who is the bitter one? You guys love to project your own failures onto everyone else.
Why should I be bitter? The guys I voted for won. I am happy with that, even though there’s room for improvement.
You want to see bitter? Wait until the mid term elections and 2012 when the GOP goes even further into crazyland.
There’s already challengers to GOP incumbents, because the teabaggers think people like McCain and Graham aren’t conservative enough/
Go ahead and do the Democrats work for them by splitting your party into fractions. Let the teabaggers/birthers run their own candidates, gods, can you imagine the hilarity that will ensue?
I guess the other question I have is why did Gooddel act so quickly against the Limbaugh ownership? Clearly there were many potential owners, why didn’t this get settled behind closed doors???
Gooddell has never appeared to be one that gets pushed around, but it certainly appears that way this time.
I’m thinking that Goddell got squeezed by someone. Let’s also not forget that the players union contract is coming up.
Again, Limbaugh was not a problem a couple of years ago, but today he’s toxic.
It will be curious to see who ends up owning the Rams.
Bye.
Limbaugh was hired by ESPN, not the NFL. You guys can’t even get the BASIC facts of this right. And nobody is able to refute the documented racist quotes from Rush, either.
I critiqued the NFL, I didn’t call for people to boycott NFL games and broadcasts and to cancel their Sunday Ticket subscriptions, which is what righties are doing today because the NFL excluded a racist from the ownership club.
joaquin–
I know you’re a moron, but even *you* must know that the NFL doesn’t own ESPN.
I mean, ditto to Oliver.
Eh? He was talking about how good Donovan McNabb was/is, and the media perception thereof.
Limbaugh said McNabb wasn’t as good and the media wouldn’t report that because he was black. Seriously. Get the basic facts right.
I really wonder if the wingnuts will picket the ST Louis stadium on Sundays because their hero got publicly humiliated. Go ahead, waste your time and get laughed at that much more. The Rams suck to begin with.
Or maybe they could follow this example.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-fanbillboard&prov=ap&type=lgns
Oh, so you’re saying that the NFL has no control over who is in the booth broadcasting games? They have no say about who is the voice of the NFL? REALLY?
Then why the disclaimers about the broadcasting/copyrights of games, Oliver? Who owns the rights to the games, Oliver?
You want to try again?
Oh, so you’re saying that the NFL has no control over who is in the booth broadcasting games?
Limbaugh wasn’t in the broadcast booth. He was on NFL Countdown. Again, get the basic facts right.
Your “documented racist quotes” hardly qualify as racist. Politically incorrect maybe, but not racist.
Do you guys at media matters really get paid to write this nonsense?
but not racist
And this is why conservatism is in the wilderness.
That is a lie and you are a liar.
I told you in the early morning that quote was a fabrication and that no one had sourced it and where it got started on the internet by a cretin HuffPo blogger, and you kept using it all day long.
You are a liar, Indeed.
Um, I repeatedly wrote that I would take the word of Newsday or the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and its columnist Burwell (certainly the former) over an anonymous Dittohead Troll or My Racist Uncle. The moment the St. Louis Post-Dispatch issued a the possiblity of a retraction I accepted it and did not quote the quote any more (have they made one in full yet, if so, I’ll accept that too). If and when Newsday issues a formal retraction, I assume someone will let me know.
My pants remain entirely free of flames, no matter what anonymous Dittohead Trolls write in blog comments.
Politically incorrect maybe, but not racist.
Your “documented racist quotes” hardly qualify as racist. Politically incorrect maybe, but not racist.
Ask Michael Steele.
Your “documented racist quotes” hardly qualify as racist. Politically incorrect maybe, but not racist.
And such as?
You know, it’s fun seeing “hard-working” conservatives whine about how their entitled to stuff. It’s just like the whining during the Prop 8-related boycotts. They think that they’re entitled to gay people’s money. Likewise, Rush thinks the world owes him an NFL team. Sad, really.
If the NFL has such a problem with Limbaugh, why was he even allowed in the booth just a couple of years back?
Yeah, I know that now it’s just a tad different because of ownership, but if he’s such a pariah, why was he allowed in the booth to broadcast? Why was he allowed to be one of the voices of the NFL?
As Burn noted, the NFL has a problem with him BECAUSE of what he said when he was in the booth, you retard.
but not racist
And this is why conservatism is in the wilderness.
As noted by Adam Serwer earlier:
Here’s the link again:
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=10&year=2009&base_name=confusion_in_dittoland_as_limb
Limbaugh said McNabb wasn’t as good and the media wouldn’t report that because he was black. Seriously. Get the basic facts right.
The basic facts were that McNabb wasn’t that good at the time.
The basic facts were that McNabb wasn’t that good at the time.
Mmm-hmm. OK, those numbers tell a story. And maybe you could enlighten us as to how we get from those numbers to Limbaugh stating that McNabb’s race was somehow relevant?
Boy you’re dense Mambo,
The whole statement was that the media had a narrative they were following because they were cheerleading for the PC “great black hope”.
The basic facts were that McNabb wasn’t that good at the time.
Yeah, he’d only been to three straight pro bowls. He did have a rough first couple of weeks that year though. Played Tampa and New England in the first month.
Still, Rush said ‘not that good from the get-go.’ I guess Rush thinks those pro bowls were affirmative action votes.
The whole statement was that the media had a narrative they were following because they were cheerleading for the PC “great black hope”.
Of course the media had to engineer hype about a black QB in ‘03– after all, only two of the top three QBs that year were black.
And let’s face it, if there’s any figure that invokes speculative restraint in the sports media, it’s a promising young quarterback.
Besides, McNabb wasn’t exactly getting help from his O-line that year (43 sacks, second highest among all active QBs) and his receiving corps was laughable (and look what happened in ‘04 when they finally gave him someone to throw to…). These are two things which generally help a quarterback, you know, throw.
So it’s not just that Rush couldn’t keep his football commentary apolitical– it also sucked and wasn’t very insightful.
You’re wasting your breath on SaveFarris and Amused Observer– in their world, of course the black guy is undeserving. No black could be better than a white guy, unless race-traitors are rigging things for him. So they will always be able to find some justification. They’re just like Rush.
The whole statement was that the media had a narrative they were following because they were cheerleading for the PC “great black hope”.
Right. Because that’s actually true. The media was just being PC, and really wanting a black QB to succeed. This was true, and Rush’s words were NOT the product of a fevered, drug-addled, racist mind.
Good work AO.
Also, what Parthy said.
mambochicken23,
These are direct quotes from you on this site regarding Joe Biden being a racist from Oliver’s Joe Biden is a Farking Idiot blog post here.
and…
The bold is mine. You put an exclamation point on your joy that Biden’s presidential campaign was DOA. You said he was clearly a racist, and that no one would likely argue that point. A racist, a tool, and a dick.
Your opinion on him took an abrupt turn of course sometime between then and Obama’s choice of Biden for his VP running mate. In fact, at one point last spring you had completely forgotten you had even called him such things in the past.
Why did you forgive this repeat racist tool and dick to the point where you have no objection with him being one ex-coke user and smoker’s heartbeat away being the next President of the United States, but you are unforgiving and unbending in your objection to Rush Limbaugh being a part-owner of a shitty NFL team?
This makes absolutely no sense.
The only way it makes sense is if you are a hypocrite who only really hates Limbaugh because he’s a conservative; a conservative who makes fun of liberals like you who can never be honestly consistent in justifying their bigoted intolerance.
Hey hey, Dennis! I’m glad you brought that up. Care to supply my commentary subsequent to that incident? You know, where I expressed astonishment that I ever typed that stuff, and retracted my statement? Because it looks as though you’re painting an incomplete picture, as it is.
But you do allude to it.
In fact, at one point last spring you had completely forgotten you had even called him such things in the past.
Yes, I certainly did forget. It was bizarre, being shown words that I apparently wrote that I had no recollection of typing.
And I do think that Biden’s a bit of a dick. He wasn’t my first choice for Vice President. Hell, he was probably outside my top 5. Search around and tell me if you can see me singing his praises, like you claimed that I was “whooping it up for Obama” with respect to the DOW.
where you have no objection with him being one ex-coke user and smoker’s heartbeat away being the next President of the United States
I trusted the man that I supported. It wasn’t up to me to support or condemn Obama’s choice for Vice President. Furthermore, I understood that Obama knew Biden better than me, and that it was his choice to make. Knowing what little I did, I would have chosen a different guy – but that’s not my call.
you are unforgiving and unbending in your objection to Rush Limbaugh being a part-owner of a shitty NFL team?
Not my position. My position is that the NFL has every right to reject him as an owner. They are a private entity and can choose who they sell a franchise to. Also, I recognize that a major factor in their decision is the fact that Rush is such a racist, bloviating windbag. Them’s the facts, Dennis. And I’m not going to lie, I really enjoy seeing Rush fail in his bid. The guy is a fucking repugnant human being.
That said, if he WERE to become an owner, I wouldn’t give a shit. Wouldn’t boycott the NFL, wouldn’t write any letters, WOULD NOT GIVE A SHIT. Why? Because it’s not my call. The NFL has their rules, and they can abide by them.
he only way it makes sense is if you are a hypocrite who only really hates Limbaugh because he’s a conservative
False. Wrong again, Dennis. It makes sense in exactly the way that I described above. Nice try, but you fail yet again. It’s getting really tired, this routine.
I already knew wing-nuts were idiotic morons who didn’t know jack shit about politics or history.
Turns out they don’t know anything about football either.
Hilarious.
Oh, I just figured out what the problem might be. I got this, guys…
Dennis, do you know what the word “hypocrite” means?
Really? So do you have no problems with country clubs who can reject anyone they choose to, too?
I know what a hypocrite is, yes, mambo, and your answers don’t hold water.
You thought Biden was a racist dick and he wasn’t your choice for VP, but you trusted Obama, who knew him better than you do. Obviously Obama doesn’t think he’s a racist dick.
If a journalist asked Obama tomorrow at a press conference if he thought Limbaugh was a racist, and Obama answering in the negative, would you then say you trusted Obama’s judgment in the matter and not thing Limbaugh was a racist any more? I kinda doubt it, but I’ll let you answer that.
because (a) racism is bad and (b) liberals are bad (c) racism is a quality possessed by liberals.
It’s amazing that most conservatives have the cognitive capacity of a four-year-old.
I know what a hypocrite is, yes, mambo
I’m not sure you do.
and your answers don’t hold water.
I disagree.
You thought Biden was a racist dick and he wasn’t your choice for VP, but you trusted Obama, who knew him better than you do. Obviously Obama doesn’t think he’s a racist dick.
Yep, you’re right. At one time, I thought he was a racist dick. You got me.
Funny thing though – circumstances can change. Obama selected him for his Vice Presidential candidate. I trusted that Biden was vetted thoroughly, and that Obama was comfortable with him alongside him on the ticket. Given this new information, I believe I must have dismissed my earlier concerns about possible racism, and instead chalked it up to Biden’s usual verbal gaffe-production. I still don’t love the guy, and he’s certainly not one of my “heroes”, but I think that I was incorrect when I labeled him a racist before.
You see, Dennis, when circumstances change and new information is available, intelligent people will adapt and modify their conceptions to fit the new information. Idiots and cockbags (including a damned large bunch of conservatives) instead cling to their cherished beliefs ever-tighter, and refuse to change their minds irrespective of the evidence. See: creationists, global warming deniers, and George W. Bush.
I believe I was wrong before, and I’ve admitted it and retracted my statement. This does not make me a hypocrite.
If a journalist asked Obama tomorrow at a press conference if he thought Limbaugh was a racist, and Obama answering in the negative, would you then say you trusted Obama’s judgment in the matter and not thing Limbaugh was a racist any more?
So many problems with this scenario. First of all, hypothetical situations like this are a sign of someone who’s running out of arguments. Second of all, I don’t see Obama answering this in the negative. Third of all, it is not a reasonable comparison – selecting a man to be a candidate on the ticket for Vice President is a bit more important than answering a question at a press conference about a windbag radio host. Because of this, I would NOT trust Obama’s answer (if he answered in the negative). I would assume that Obama was lying for some political reason or another. Plus, I’ve seen much firmer evidence to support that Limbaugh is a racist shithead than Biden. Plus, I seriously doubt that Obama knows more about Limbaugh than me – I wouldn’t think that Obama would give Limbaugh much of a second thought, and if he did, it’s probably with respect to information that I have at my disposal as well. Unlike with Biden.
So again, you fail, Dennis. Keep trying though. It’s amusing to beat you down so fucking easily.
You sound like Jaim and Zython now, mambo. Your argument has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese slices and then at the end you claim you beat me down so easily.
I find your excuses completely lacking in credibility, especially considering your profession. I could never deem someone in the Republicn party with the standing of a Joe Biden a racist idiot as you did, and then completely forget that I ever said that. If you’re honest about having done that, then it means you were never serious about the racist allegation in the first place that it didn’t make enough of an impression. Usually people who think someone is as much of a racist as you did, with exclamation points and all, would be forever repulsed by that person.
But your forgot because he on the good side. And you reconsidered when reminded because you defer to someone with better judgment than you (Obama) who you trust. And you trust a guy who you explicitly say would lie for political reasons if he said someone else was not a racist.
Inconsistent logic, double standards, convenient forgetfulness when circumstances change, and deference to a supposed trusted authority who you admit lies for political purposes.
Hypocrite.
QED
Better start looking for some legal representation, Indeed.
I agree. Dennis is starting to get belligerent. Better get a restraining order soon.
Bring us home tbogg:
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/10/15/we-are-all-rush-limbaugh-now-devoid-of-joy-inconsolable-flaccid/
Dennis, you are simple-minded. My explanations make perfect sense, but require that you have an IQ over 60 to understand. Circumstances change. And you don’t know what the word “hypocrite” means. I think you should look it up. It’s a pretty serious charge. Changing my mind does not make me a hypocrite.
And you reconsidered when reminded because you defer to someone with better judgment than you (Obama) who you trust. And you trust a guy who you explicitly say would lie for political reasons if he said someone else was not a racist.
Mmm-hmm. Dennis, have you ever taken a science class? In a factorial experimental design, there’s something that we call an “interaction”. Basically, this can happen when you have two different levels each of two different independent variables that don’t have a linear relationship w/r/t the dependent variable. In other words, there’s a change in the effect of one independent variable as a function of a second independent variable.
While I would trust Obama with respect to high-importance manuevers (e.g., selecting Biden), I may not with respect to low-importance manuevers (e.g., answering a question about Rush). Just because I defer to his judgment in certain cases does not mean I have to believe him and/or defer to his judgment in all cases.
And you trust a guy who you explicitly say would lie for political reasons if he said someone else was not a racist.
In a completely fabricated situation that you dreamed up, Dennis. Also, I am not naive. I know that politicians lie sometimes – and I’m okay with that, in certain cases. It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if Obama came out and said “Rush is not a racist.” I wouldn’t know why he did so, but it’s low importance, and who really gives a fuck? Now, that is not to say that I wouldn’t love it if he told the truth about the matter, but it may not be politically expedient.
Inconsistent logic
Only if you’re an idiot.
double standards
At first glance, if you reject nuance.
convenient forgetfulness when circumstances change
Would it have been better if I changed my mind WITHOUT forgetting what I said before? That could’ve easily happened instead, but I don’t think that would change your mind here. Yes, circumstances change, and you should adapt to them. I did. Changing my mind does not make me a hypocrite.
deference to a supposed trusted authority who you admit lies for political purposes
I said that I wouldn’t be surprised if he lied, in this hypothetical circumstance, for political purposes. This is a really minor issue, and a lie just doesn’t mean anything to me here. For more serious and important matters, I would be more likely to believe him. I don’t have to defer to authority on all, or even most, or even many issues, simply because I did it once. For example, I am critical of Obama failing to repeal DADT, and I think that he parsed his words very carefully when he answered that 4th grader’s question.
Your failure to grasp this demonstrates your idiocy.
Hypocrite.
Again, I don’t think you know what this word means.
You’re very wrong, Dennis. Idiot.
If a journalist asked Obama tomorrow at a press conference if he thought Limbaugh was a racist, and Obama answering in the negative, would you then say you trusted Obama’s judgment in the matter and not thing Limbaugh was a racist any more?
What about my lyin’ eyes and ears?
Now here’s a question for you: What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly? Huh? Ever thought about that?
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200910150043
Wow. The Klassy never stops with Team Wingnut.
mambo-
I have to run to work and have a busy day in front of me, but maybe I can get back to your hypocrisy a little later, meantime, please review your past statements so you can change your defense yet again.
Here’s your reply to me back in February when I first embarrassed the shit out of you when you denied that you ever called Biden a racist:
“Touche Dennis. Well played.“
You admit cognitive dissonance then. At that point you couldn’t remember back one year when you put an exclamation point on your excited declaration that Biden’s presidential campaign was DOA because he was a racist. Now you can’t remember back to this past February what your embarrassed defense of even that was.
Your positions do change, but not out of any scientific methodology. They change because the ultimate sin to a liberal is to be exposed for being a hypocrite, and you have been exposed as one, my friend.
Punked and Pwned.
Again.
I really don’t enjoy doing this to you. You seem like the kind of guy that after a few beers would just admit it and laugh about it.
I lied, mambo. I actually do enjoy it. I just hope you keep coming back and don’t do to yourself what I would’ve done had I been caught blatantly trying to bullshit someone like you did here.
Or what I would’ve done had I been caught doing what Zython did to that conservative blogger.
Only just seen this, from a couple-few days ago, but it’s typically funny:
http://wonkette.com/411631/rush-limbaugh-not-allowed-to-buy-that-football-team
No why would those black players get so uppity about Rush Limbaugh, anyway? Also.
Indeed, why would you get you panties in a bunch over my drawing attention to Dave Weigel’s weight such that you repeated the quote a hundred times and cried for a retraction, when you quote someone at Wonkette that falsely calls Limbaugh obese?
Limbaugh has lost a lot of weight. He is in no way obese. I’ve told you that. His BMI is likely a lot less than Weigel’s and whoever wrote that is a lying douche and you, again, are irresponsible with your quotes since you were aware of the falsehood.
Also, Indeed:
On March 4th of this year, I warned you (as “ed” and there is no doubt that you as “Indeed” were that “ed” then) that certain quotes of Limbaugh’s that you were peddling were highly suspect as to his attribution and asked you if you could source it, that there was no sourcing available anywhere.
You knew then this to be the case, yet here 7 months later as of before yesterday you still circulated the quotes.
Just what kind of cretin are you and how do the regular liberal sycophants that populate the comments here allow you to partake in such sleazy behavior as a representative of the liberal cause?
We’re still fighting this:
Sound like any wingnuts you might encounter in person or in blog comments or on a website?
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_10/020470.php
Maybe wingnut hero Robert Stacy McCain can clear this up. Any Robert Stacy McCain defenders out there?
And we’re still fighting this:
Black Talk Host To Juan Williams: “Real Black People” Are Offended By Limbaugh
Warren Ballentine tells Juan Williams that “real black people” are offended by Rush Limbaugh. Ballentine also tells Williams to go back to the “porch.”
And this does sound like wingnuts you might encounter in person or in blog comments or on a website….this website.
KKKlassy, liberals.
Indeed, why would you get you panties in a bunch over my drawing attention to Dave Weigel’s weight such that you repeated the quote a hundred times and cried for a retraction, when you quote someone at Wonkette that falsely calls Limbaugh obese?
Gosh, I just assumed you understood how Wonkette rolled (it’s an over-the-top wacky political rumor website–FYI). Does Dave Weigel have a long history of ad hominem attacks on peoples’ appearance? Could you direct me to some? Perhaps Wonkette threw in some epithets, you know, for irony’s sake, before getting to the issue at hand. You know, because it’s their stock in trade. I don’t recall you ever addressing the issue, merely deflecting by attacking (“slime and defend” as some kids like to call it) Mr. Weigel.
Here’s a recent example of your hero’s attacking a person’s appearance:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200910090044
You can look it up! Would you like more? You could look them up too! Am I missing that elusive “context” you never seem to be able to provide for me?
Please let me know if you find (actual) equivalent smears from Dave Weigel. As though that would ever excuse your pathetic slime and defend and deflect ad hominem attacks.
Did anyone ever figure out why the NFL players got so uppity about Rush Limbaugh? That’s still a mystery. If someone could research that for me, that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
I answered that for you already, Indeed. It was collective bargaining leverage.
Also, they were concerned about the “high standards” of the NFL.
The same NFL that approved this:
NFL Owners Who Use the N-Word and Wet Their Pants On Stage
And now a word from an NFL owner:
J-Lo makes money off her use of the N-word. NFL Players Association, Al Sharpton and DeMaurice Smith curiously have no problem with it.
NFLPA???
Anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?
And then there’s Fergie to top it all off.
I wonder what the NFL Players Association and NFL players think of Fergie being and NFL owner.
“I have to run to work and have a busy day in front of me,”
You have a JOB???? Doesn’t it interfere with posting every 20 minutes round the clock for days on end? This busy day of yours hasn’t prevented you from posting at 9:13, 9:17, 11:35, 11:45, 12:20 and 1:24. Busy busy!
The first step is admitting you have a problem.
Buffoonily yours, etc.
I wonder what the NFL Players Association and NFL players think of Fergie being and NFL owner.
Give it up already, megadittohead. The battle is over.
Your impotent hero lost, ok? Do you understand that much?
Rush lost his bid to become an owner and in the process, got a firm slap in his fat ugly face.
Do you need a hanky to cry all those tears? Boo hoo for Rush, oh boo hoo for him. Whatever shall he do, now that Al Sharpton prevented him from being an owner?
He will cry like the pussy that he is. Him and all his idiot minions will cry cry cry, 96 tears.
You can post all the song lyrics you want, but that won’t make one goddamn bit of difference.
The NFL decided Rush is bad for business, and they didn’t want him being associated with any of their teams, based on all the crap he said in the past. There are consequences for your words.
So get over it already, losers. Just shut up and accept defeat.
Maybe Rush should buy a hockey team instead, they’re all white players.
Chris ‘thrill up my leg’ Matthews dressed Sharpton down last night and exposed him for the race-hustling fool that he is. It was beautiful. First time I’ve ever seen him almost speechless and looking like a cat got his tongue.
Here, Slugfest
Race-hustling buffoon. Thought he was going to cry when Buchanan mentioned Tawana Brawley.
Rush is more unpopular than he is popular. It’s just that simple. All the conservative crying and finger pointing cannot change this.
And if Rush was a true conservative he’d want nothing to do with the collective and socialistic NFL.
Hey look, more good stuff from Adam Serwer:
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=10&year=2009&base_name=the_conservative_rules_of_raci
Word.
(Good links there too. And check out Bender’s Theory.)
From Yglesias:
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/10/right-wing-anti-anti-racism.php
What up!
So Dennis, what’s your theory on why all these rock-ribbed, conservative, Bush contributing NFL owners don’t want to be photographed with Rush? It’s not like they take their advice from Al Sharpton.
The irony is that now Rush will attack the rich, conservative NFL owners on his show, furthering the split between the leadership of the GOP and the people with the money it runs on.
The more Dennis furiously flails away at his keyboard, the more obvious it becomes that the fringe racism of the GOP has now become one of its defining principles.
Keep up the good work, Dennis. We couldn’t ask for a better representative of modern conservatism, a guy who can’t even understand why the Limbaugh comments on McNabb’s ability are not only plainly racist, but also more than enough evidence that he has no business owning an NFL franchise.
And that’s just for starters. “Take the bone out of your nose,” “Barack Halfbama,” “Barack the Magic Negro,” NFL games as “bloods versus crips,” etc.
Please, don’t stop. With every breath you are a living example of the failure that is the GOP. I’m half surprised George Soros isn’t cutting you a check every time you post.
“The irony is that now Rush will attack the rich, conservative NFL owners on his show”
Actually, the racist, drug-addicted Chairman of the GOP is trying to argue that liberals blocked him, not the NFL ownership itself and guys like the owner of the Colts.
Which is a complete lie, but we are talking about Republican.
Still going on:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910170003
More:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910170004
Ah, and here we get to read from the racist, drug-addicted leader of the GOP himself:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704322004574477021697942920.html
“When Mr. Goodell was asked about me, he suggested that my 2003 comment criticizing the media’s coverage of Donovan McNabb—in which I said the media was cheerleading Mr. McNabb because they wanted a successful black quarterback—fell short of the NFL’s “high standard.” High standard? Half a decade later, the media would behave the same way about the presidential candidacy of Mr. Obama.”
The shithead doesn’t even have the class to apologize for slurring McNabb, and goes on to slur the president of our country.
Frankly Mr. Limbaugh, if you don’t like it then get the hell out you whiny little drug-addicted baby.
Fact check:
Mark Cubin is NO liberal. He is a libertarian and is inspired by Alan Rand…..nuff said. Some folks will say anything, even make stuff up just to “win”, with no regard for the truth. Tisk, tisk, and yuck.
oops, sorry about typo ayn rand….
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-us-limbaugh-race-ana,0,794631.story
I wonder, if Rush’s desire to own a league with 79 % African American men have anything to do with “owning” 78% African American men? Instead of “Mr. Limbaugh” would he want, “Massa” Limbaugh?
Just askin’
Hahahhhahahaha!!!!!!
My day is already now complete.
“C’mon, Mr. Limbaugh. Join me.”
No Indeed, fafaroo said that. Aren’t you paying attention to the thread? You need to credit fafaroo for that.
Jaim is also cluelessly unaware of what a shakedown is and what noted shakedown artists do for their livings.
If Limbaugh would improve the brand and help ticket sales for the NFL, do you really think they’d have blocked him?
It’s a business. And a bigot like Rush is bad for business.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009/10/17/2009-10-17_lupica_rushed_out_of_the_club.html
“Rush Limbaugh is always an advocate of a robust free-enterprise system, as it relates from health care to everything else. Only now he squeals because the same free-enterprise system rejects him as a possible owner of the St. Louis Rams football team.”
Jaim,
I understand that and I don’t disagree with it. If the NFL thinks he’d be very bad for business and they don’t want the bad publicity, then they can reject an offer from the whole group that was going to bid on the franchise. Dave Checketts can back out on his offer to Limbaugh to join his bidding group if he doesn’t want the headaches and the controversy surrounding having Limbaugh after first telling him everything was cool in the beginning, too. I understand all about that, and don’t have a problem with that aspect, even though Checketts is a coward. But a shakedown occurred here, and Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are shakedown artists who specialize in it. If you’re fine with their methodologies and think they fit in well with the free enterprise system in America, that businesses will relent and cave in to Sharpton’s and Jackson’s demands along racial lines for fear of bad publicity and threats of boycotts, then that’s where you and I disagree.
What you are condoning is the same thing as a country club deciding certain people would be bad for their ‘business’, however that club defines and decides what is ‘business’, without stating it outright when they reject a potential applicant for membership. I know what your response is going to be, but as you’ve argued it here, it is no different.
“then they can reject an offer from the whole group that was going to bid on the franchise”
Why? Limbaugh is the only prominent racist drug addict in the group. He’s the one who’d be bad for business.
And please stop your whining. Sharpton and Jackson carry very little weight in American discourse these days. John Irsay had a hell of a lot more to do with it.
Rush got torpedoed, for the nth time, because he’s a racist, drug-addicted bigot. Period. And outside of his own radio show, America hates him.
BTW, people get paid for “shaking down” someone. Stop abusing English.
What you are condoning is the same thing as a country club deciding certain people would be bad for their ‘business’, however that club defines and decides what is ‘business’, without stating it outright when they reject a potential applicant for membership.
If Rush were being rejected for membership solely on the basis of his race, religion, sexual orientation, or even the fact that he is an overweight, physically unattractive man, then I would agree with you.
But of course that’s not the case at all. Rush is being rejected for public statements he has made and a public persona that he has maintained for years that routinely casts aspersions on black Americans. (and there’s plenty of evidence of Rush’s MO even without the two dubious quotes… anyone remember a certain school bus fight earlier this year?)
The owners presumably feel comes with baggage that would reflect poorly on their industry. Particularly given the fact that the industry in question hires a number of highly paid, highly catered-to athletes who find Rush’s on-air persona offensive for some reason.