NFL commissioner Roger Goodell failed to offer support of Rush Limbaugh’s bid to buy the Rams on Tuesday and said the talk-show host’s ‘divisive comments’ would not be welcome in the league.
‘I’ve said many times before, we’re all held to a high standard here,’ Goodell told reporters, via the New York Times.
‘I would not want to see those comments coming from people who are in a responsible position in the NFL –- absolutely not.’
“The comments Rush made specifically about Donovan, I disagree with very strongly,” Goodell said, via the Times. “It’s a polarizing comment that we don’t think reflect accurately on the NFL or our players.
The Donovan comment didn’t reflect on the NFL or the players AT ALL: it was directed towards the media.
Yeah, I don’t see how anyone could see how saying the media want a black qb to succeed simply because he’s black be anything but a damning criticism of the media itself, and not of black players in general, because black qbs are all subpar and shouldn’t be given preferential treatment to their superior white counterparts.
The Donovan comment didn’t reflect on the NFL or the players AT ALL: it was directed towards the media.
But it was a horrible comment. As were these:
Since the NFL is privately held, it can set any standard it cares to for ownership. The NFL sells its products to a cross section of America and would be ill served by accepting into its ranks an man who is hated by the vast majority of both the fans and the players. The story would transcend the game, and that is not the kind of exposure they are looking for.
Good for the NFL.
“man who is hated by the vast majority of both the fans and the players”
Vast majority of players and fans? OK…………………….
Earlier today:
So?
Vast majority of players and fans? OK…………………….
Survey says: A safe bet.
Poor Rush Limbaugh. All those years of angry racist hatemongering made him rich, but couldn’t buy him happiness. His dream of trading Negro men will not be fulfilled.
Rush, as owner, to the coach and GM: “Remember, the QB has to be white.”
What would he be the “owner” of, after everyone who worked there quit?
we’re all held to a high standard here,
Really? “Divisive” comments? Can’t have it.
A league where players are getting arrested every other day? No big deal.
http://nflcrimes.blogspot.com
I don’t really care either way whether or not Rush gets to own an NFL team but the stench of hypocrisy coming from people like Goodell, talking heads and some NFL players is a joke.
If NFL owners were held to such a high standard, the league would tell Al Davis, Danny Snyder and the Ford Family to take a hike. Their franchises are an absolute disgrace to the NFL and are a laughing stock (How’s that 12-4 prediction for the Skins working out O-Dub?). Yet Rush Limbaugh as a talk radio host says things that are “divisive” and therefore needs to stay away.
Wow. Just….wow.
No one seems to be able to source either of these comments, Indeed. Nothing.
I’m sure you can, though.
Do that and then let’s discuss.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell failed to offer support
It was a failure on Goodell’s part? I don’t think so.
Some of those Rush quotes being thrown around are not him.
Donovan mirrored the statements that Rush made about him in later interviews.
It doesn’t matter what he says though. Those of you who have never even listened to him will call him racist anyway.
Explain Michael Vick then, RR.
Rush – “I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: Slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.”
Sure sounds like him. Did Beck ever confirm or deny raping that little girl?
Explain Michael Vick then, RR.
Unlike Mr. Limbaugh or his defenders, Michael Vick apologized. Several times.
And when Vick promises to answer simple, direct questions, he does so. Unlike, you know, Dittohead Trolls.
Invented out of whole cloth, candadian bacon. Don’t let that stop you and Indeed from putting quotation marks around the Left’s invention, though.
Funny games you guys play.
Do that and then let’s discuss.
I asked, more than once,
Um, you wrote (more than once as I recall),
And here we are.
How’s that 12-4 prediction for the Skins working out O-Dub?
Running the table at 12-1 baby!
The NFL has its problems, I don’t know why they would add to it by adding an unrepentant racist like Rush Limbaugh to its ownership roster.
For all the Danny’s multifold problems, he’s not outwardly a racist hatemonger like Limbaugh.
Is this your admission that you cannot find any kind of a source to the quotations you attributed to Rush Limbaugh, Indeed.
Bill O’Reilly’s research staff searched and searched and couldn’t find anything. I’m sure you can, though, I mean, what with your access to Media Matters search system and all.
C’mon, Indeed, here’s your chance to be a hero.
Otherwise, it’s not Limbaugh being the racist asshole, but simply you being a race-baiting one.
Your move.
[The NFL] would be ill served by accepting into its ranks an man who is hated by the vast majority of both the fans and the players.
And yet TO still has a job.
As does Keith Olbermann.
And Jerry Jones.
And Tom Benson.
And Bill Bidwell.
And Mike Brown.
And yet TO still has a job.
As does Keith Olbermann.
And Jerry Jones.
And Tom Benson.
And Bill Bidwell.
And Mike Brown.
And yet, somehow, none of these people is even remotely as repugnant as Rush Limbaugh, who actually once said
You can look it up. Turns out he’s said a whole bunch of racist shit that his defenders don’t want to acknowledge. He’s Father Coughlin turned up to 11.
Source that one, too, while you’re at it, Indeed. Someone other than fair.org.
You want me to comment on quotes you have no idea whether he said them or not, but are just floating around on the internet somewhere, that no one, no one can source.
How despicable is that?
You don’t do this because you’re against racism; you do it because you hate conservatives and you think very obviously derive considerable pleasure from it, and the idea of slandering someone you hate is of no concern to you in the least.
Dittohead Troll wants fact-based liberals to LEEEAAAAVVVVEEE RUSH ALLLOOOOOOONNNEEEEEE!!!!!
“Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles” Keith Olbermann??
Here.
Dennis: Bill O’Reilly’s research staff
Now there’s a crew you want to hang your standard for accurate reporting on.
Keepin’ it classy. You can look it up:
Explain Michael Vick then, RR.
Michael Vick did time for his personal failings, and owned up to a lot of stuff and acted like he might have a new perspective. He paid for his crime with the loss of tens of millions in potential salary.
One of my employees has a prison record for a drug offense, so I don’t mind giving a guy another shot if he has faced up to his problem. Had Limbaugh actually done any time for his drug offenses, which would have sent my black friend to jail for a long time, or even taken time out from his career, as Vick did, I might have more sympathy for his own personal failings.
SaveFarris: As does Keith Olbermann.
Olberman works for the NFL?
No, man, bash away to your race-baiting heart’s content. Just kindly provide a source to a quote you want me to comment that proves he actually said what you want me to comment on. No one I know that has looked into it can’t seem to find anything, but I was thinking maybe you could since you quote him so often.
Pretty reasonable request, no?
You seem to be balking at this for some reason.
Source that one, too, while you’re at it, Indeed. Someone other than fair.org.
Shades of
All klassy, all the time.
FYI: Limbaugh’s “color-blind” history of racially charged comments
Its hilarious watching these Rush defenders evade. Evade EvAdE.
It takes a skillful souless scumbag to defend that fat maggot.
What was he convicted of, RR?
It’s not a thread about bashing Rush Limbaugh, it’s a thread about the fact he was denied an opportunity to be a part owner in an NFL team, and the reasons he was denied and whether or not the NFL is being consistent.
Asking someone to provide a source for a quote he demands commentary on that no one else with full research staffs can find no sourcing on must acctually be your idea of defending racism, Chow Shark, but it’s not mine.
“Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles” Keith Olbermann??
Nope, false equivalence denied. Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles is an actual restaurant. Keith was talking about a player named Roscoe Parrish. This is nothing like Rush’s past comments.
Racially-charged, Parthy. I’m quite sure if Rush Limbaugh had said it, it would be on the Media Matters ‘Rush hit-list’, too, no?
Think about that one and let me know whether you agree or not.
Dennis, willl you please remove Limbaugh’s shlong from your mouth and go away? Your bullshit convinces absolutely no one.
Kudos to Roger Goodell. Dave Zirin was really good on Randi Rhodes’ show today talking about this. Just ignore the con trolls. They’re political Jehovah’s Witnesses trying to hand out White Nationalist Watchtowers
Dennis: It’s not a thread about bashing Rush Limbaugh, it’s a thread about the fact he was denied an opportunity to be a part owner in an NFL team, and the reasons he was denied and whether or not the NFL is being consistent.
Yeah. Despite any comments seen here this is not a thread where Limbaugh is betting bashed.
So don’t accuse Dennis of evading anything, OK.
Roscoe’s has the right idea. Chicken and waffles go surprisingly well together, and the food is fantastic.
Just sayin’.
It’s nice to know that sometimes karma is a force in the universe and it just slapped the Mr. Limbaugh in the face. I hope he does litigate like he has threatened, then his whole racist and sexist oeuvre will finally be out in the open for everybody else to see.
BTW it was great fun hearing him squirm all morning; I wager that he’ll tone down his racist and sexist antics for a while because, as a smart business man, he knows when his inappropriate comments hurt his financial interests, as they are hurting him right now. I’m guessing restraint will be the order of the day. Let’s see.
Dennis: Bill O’Reilly’s research staff
Pretty much was wondering when someone would make that comment, Sean, and see that as a challenge instead of just a one-line scoff, but as it was, there you are with the one-line scoff. Maybe you could help out Indeed and provide the source to the quotes he can’t seem to come up with, yet repeats here every single day. If The O’Reilly Factor’s research staff couldn’t find them and they’re not in the Media Matters Rush Limbaugh truth database either, you or him finding the accurate sources would make you guys the liberal blog heroes of the day.
What’s not to like about that?
This is a big surprise: a fat disgusting racist bully is not allowed to sit at the table with the popular kids. The rest of the kids are relieved, except his socially awkward, borderline retarded followers. They vow vengeance, or at least endless whining.
The whining thread is just below this one, calling all toasters. Fox News is mean to Obama- go weigh in.
Got your citations, Dennis:
Here.
and
here.
Read it and masturbate.
Neither one opens up, Indeed. Perhaps it is you with the sticky keys on the keyboard.
You should be ashamed of yourself, if only you knew what shame was.
Dennis: What’s not to like about that?
The tune. I don’t like the tune you’ve chosen for when you dance around something.
Will Dennis ever answer Indeed’s questions? To be continue…..
Tune in next time folks.
What the F are you talking about, Sean? What am I dancing around? Responding to Indeed’s quotes that he can’t find a source for?
C’mon, you’re better than that.
cj, why don’t you try making a contribution to the thread or spur some discussion sometime, ever? You’re another of these guys here with the cutesy one-liners but never want to engage for fear of ruining your new pair of pants your mom just bought you.
So if the quotes aren’t verified by a neutral third party observer, what, Rush isn’t a racist asshole and shouldn’t have been smacked down by Gooddell? Just trying to understand the argument here. ‘Cause it seems to be Rush’s reputation precedes him. Unless, Dennis, you think the reputation as a racist asshole is undeserved. Is that what you are saying?
So I believe Jay’s argument is “There are scumbags in the NFL so the scumbag Rush Limbaugh should be there too!”
Dude, that is a lame and almost elementary school argument. You don’t point to other bad behavior to justify Rush’s racist words and rotten behavior to boot(Drug testing?). I think the bottom line is that the NFL is a private organization and it may steam some conservatives but they can appoint/approve whoever they like. Pointing to players is a look over there tactic as far as I am concerned. Admitting Vick is a scumbag doesn’t absolve Rush.
Here’s my contribution…Rush is a racist asshole, and Dennis is his balls washer. Happy now?
No, gumby, Indeed provides quotes that Rush denies and for which there is nothing to support that he even said them and expects me to comment on them or whether or not those comments makes him a racist asshole. And the usual sycophant liberal gallery here condones that kind of thing.
Sorry, I just don’t play that game.
Shorter Dennis: If I can find an unproven example of Rush’s racism, I don’t have to admit anything about his proven racism.
Michael Vick was offered as an example to another poster’s statement that “The NFL sells its products to a cross section of America and would be ill served by accepting into its ranks an man who is hated by the vast majority of both the fans and the players. The story would transcend the game, and that is not the kind of exposure they are looking for.”
Michael Vick is or was also hated by the vast majority of the fans and the players and his story also transcended the game and was not the kind of exposure they were looking for, aside from the fact he was one hell of a QB.
…maybe he’s too busy getting the bone out of his nose…
The missing links for Dennis:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/31/rush-limbaughs-premature-galt/#comment-167636
and
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/29/boston-cop-called-henry-louis-gates-jr-a-jungle-monkey/#comment-167314
Enjoy!
Ah, sorry, the bone is indeed out. Some sort of delay thing. Anyhoo,
“Sorry, I just don’t play that game.”
No, you prefer the wander in the weeds game. Even if Indeed’s quotes are complete fictions (making him a pretty decent writer of dialogue)… so what? They are essentially window dressing on what the world already thinks of Rush. But, you got to play “prove it” and wander off into the weeds. Well played sir.
But Rush continues to be a racist asshole, whose assholery is now becoming at long last a liability for him. Agree? Or are you still going to whine about Indeed not playin fair so you don’t have to agree with even this basic premise.
Source that one, gumby/Indeed.
“Source that one, gumby/Indeed.”
– gumby, October 13, 2009, 7:50
Are we back in the “prove it” weeds now? Or are you avoiding the premise I put to you?
No, you prefer the wander in the weeds game. Even if
Do you wish to continue your ‘fake but accurate’ defense of Indeed or would you rather just quit while you can without further embarrassment to your credibility? Playing fair or not is one thing. Being a dishonest piece of race-baiting shit and quoting someone inaccurately repeatedly is quite well another. And sorry, it’s just not a game I wish to play. Find someone else to admit that if he had said the things he never said but ‘gosh darn, might just as well had said’ would make him a racist asshole.
Like I said, funny games you all like to play here.
No, gumby, Indeed provides quotes that Rush denies and for which there is nothing to support that he even said them and expects me to comment on them or whether or not those comments makes him a racist asshole.
O RLY:
http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/rush_limbaugh
Yeah, none of that never happened. He never said any of that racist bilge. Keep defending that crap. Keep the blinders on.
Ah, Rush is just misunderstood. His reputation is unearned.
And the quotes Oliver sources above are…?
Sorry, I just don’t play that game.
O RLY?
Just earlier today. As seen on this thread.
Source that one, gumby/Indeed.
Oh for fuck’s sake, Dennis. Answer me the following simple questions, regardless of everything that has gone up above.
Does Rush express racist sentiments, yes or no?
Does Rush utilize patently idiotic and/or inflammatory dialogue as a matter of course, yes or no?
Since Rush is perceived as a racist by most, does it benefit NFL to have him as an owner of a team in their league, which has a majority of black athletes? Yes or no.
Is Rush a despicable human being, yes or no?
Just to be clear, Dennis, you seem to be disagreeing (though haven’t come right out and said it) that Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole whose assholery is now becoming at long last a liability for him.
Am I correct in this?
Pretty much was wondering when someone would make that comment, Sean, and see that as a challenge instead of just a one-line scoff, but as it was, there you are with the one-line scoff.
In Sean’s defense, Bill O’Reilly actually believes–and this is a fact, you can look it up–he believes that a falafel is an appropriate sex toy in the shower. Really. He believes this. I beg to differ.
Fake, but accurate, Indeed. That seems to be something you wholeheartedly believe in. You seem to be quite proud and not the least bit embarrassed at being shown to be a lying scumbag who feels it’s justifiably correct to repeatedly attribute quotes to someone who never said those things. Oh, sure, you can say oh yeah, but what about those other things that Oliver got from his employer, but those aren’t as imflammatory as the ones you love to bandy about on here daily, are they?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiLVTzljOjA&feature=fvw
Dennis to Rush: “May I wash the left now, sir?”
I’m rooting for Limbaugh to fail. Afer all, it’s the patriotic thing to do. Just ask him.
Gosh, I can’t figure out whom I should believe when it comes to whether or not Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole, Larry Wilmore or “Dennis,” an anonymous Dittohead troll. Should I believe Dennis or my lyin’ ears and eyes? What to do, what to do…
(Love Ol’ Rushie doing the “black voice” in the disturbingly funny Wilmore clip. That’s extra klassy! Nice guy you adore there, Dennis.)
I got to the four minute mark, cj. What is it you find worth noting in that clip specifically? Is there a point you disagree with that you’d like to argue against him or something?
Just what is your point besides the grade school humor?
Just what is your point besides the grade school humor?
I’m guessing that the point is to mock racist assholes and their defenders.
“It doesn’t matter what he says though. Those of you who have never even listened to him will call him racist anyway.”
Actually it does matter what he says and what he says is mostly racist crud. I listen everyday. He’s an asshole with a mouth.
Michael Vick was offered as an example to another poster’s statement that “The NFL sells its products to a cross section of America and would be ill served by accepting into its ranks an man who is hated by the vast majority of both the fans and the players. The story would transcend the game, and that is not the kind of exposure they are looking for.”
Dennis,
I am not making that argument. Heck I think Vick was a bad QB. It really boils down to money. Goodell saw $$ signs. The main point is that you can’t just point to other bad behavior to excuse the Rushbo.
You seem to be having trouble defending yourself from showing what a race-baiting liar you’ve been on here day after day with quoting Limbaugh with racist statements that were made up, Indeed.
You’ve done everything but address your despicable behavior. Strange that, huh?
@Dennis-What? I’m contributing.
And I love how you are STILL avoiding Indeed’s questions.
Oh, sure, you can say oh yeah, but what about those other things that Oliver got from his employer, but those aren’t as imflammatory as the ones you love to bandy about on here daily, are they?
Translated Dittohead Troll: Oh, sure, my idol, Rush Limbaugh, is a racist asshole, but not as much of a racist asshole as you say he is! So there! Ha! I’ll defend Him to the ends of The Earth!
Dennis: What am I dancing around? Responding to Indeed’s quotes that he can’t find a source for?
Um… no. This:
Seems a pretty forward trowing down of teh gantlet and you picking it up. But so far I’ve seen no cites provided by you to show where Limbaugh has stopped being racist, apologized for past assholery or where dittohead defenders came clean. Only
dancing.
sigh
gantletgauntletLarry Wilmore or “Dennis”…still thinking…thinking…
Gee Dennis, why do you love him so? Do tell. No don’t.
Again, cj, just what was it in that clip that you have a problem with? Without making a point, you aren’t really contributing, are you?
As to Indeed, I think he’s shown what a piece of crap thing it is that he’s done and not had one word to say about it. Why should I or anyone pay attention to him, much less answer his questions? Do you condone race-baiting and lying or something?
Dennis: Find someone else to admit that if he had said the things he never said but ‘gosh darn, might just as well had said’ would make him a racist asshole.
You’re still arguing for fighting in the weeds.
Ok, fine. Ignore the unsourced quotes that Limbaugh denies making. Look instead to the large number that are sourced, which have not been denied, which do show up in Media Matters list and answer this:
Is he racist?
Indeed: In Sean’s defense, Bill O’Reilly actually believes–and this is a fact, you can look it up–he believes that a falafel is an appropriate sex toy in the shower.
Please don’t use O’Reilly’s fetishes in my defense. I don’t need the image.
And to be fair, apparently a falafel is (to some) an appropriate sex toy in the shower. OK. To each their own.
My comment regarding O’Reilly’s research staff is that they are not by any means something one wants to point to as a group that believes in or practices accurate reporting. Dennis, of course, failed to back up his contention that they were and instead headed off into the weeds.
Why should I or anyone pay attention to him, much less answer his questions?
Um, because you said,
and
I guess the other reason you might want to avoid answering my simple, direct questions is that it would conflict with your undiluted adoration of Racist Asshole Rush Limbaugh, and no one, not even the wingnutiest of Dittohead Trolls, could stand that much cognitive dissonance.
Or maybe you’re just plain yellow.
Dennis: You’ve done everything but address your despicable behavior. Strange that, huh?
You’ve done everything but address whether Limbaugh is racist. That? Not so strange.
Sean, you have my email address. You want to know the answers to those questions so bad, please email me. As to the despicable Indeed who thinks what he’s done is a-ok, no fucking way. I think guys that do what he does and Zython did on Sadly, No! are scum and don’t deserve the time of day. Maybe you see things differently and are cool with it, but I’m not.
Sean, you have my email address. You want to know the answers to those questions so bad, please email me.
Because if The Russians got a hold of that information, it would be the end of Our American Way of Life!
Dennis: You want to know the answers to those questions so bad, please email me.
If I do, okay with you if I post your reply here, in public?
If not, why the unwillingness to answer the questions here, as you had clearly said you would when you first replied to Indeed?
@Dennis- Okay Dennis I will tell you before I get labeled as doing “a Dennis”.
His notion that the government and legislation were the ones that “busted up the black family”, sorry that role was taken up by slave owners when they’d separated fathers from mothers, husbands from wives, and children from mothers and fathers.
That ACORN kept blacks from progressing, and also his notion that “Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Neo-Afrocentric, Black Liberation theologists working with ACORN and Barack Obama is smack dab in the middle of it. The have been training young black kids to hate hate hate this country. And they trained their parents before that to hate this country” (wow race baiting much).
Oh yea and that he is a racist sack of shit.
You keep cleaning those balls, Dennis.
As to the despicable Indeed who thinks what he’s done is a-ok, no fucking way.
and
Plus:
Also.
No heading off into the woods, Sean. No matter what you think of his research staff, what I said was they researched the quotes Indeed attributed to him that I pointed out to you, and they could find nothing on it. And now after close to a full six hours neither has Indeed. Nor has anyone else here who is apparently condoning his ‘fake but accurate’ screed. So the point was, here’s your chance to make a mockery of O’reilly’s research staff and prove that you could find and source the quotes attributed to Limbaugh that they said they researched and came up empty, and then you’d be a liberal blog hero.
No heading off into the woods, Sean….wah WAH-WAH wah wah-wah…So the point was…wah WAH-WAH wah wah wah-wah.
Indeed, are you a race-baiting asshole who’s been purposely lying about things he’s never said?
Answer that and I’ll answer whether or not Rush is a racist asshole.
Fair?
Dennis, first off, you’re link’s broken. Secondly, the integrity of Bill O’Reilly’s research staff…leaves something to be desired.
Indeed, are you a race-baiting asshole who’s been purposely lying about things he’s never said?
No.
Answer that and I’ll answer whether or not Rush is a racist asshole.
In public? What if The Russians find out? Why the contingency? Why not just answer the questions as you said you would?
Here are the original questions at issue in case you’ve somehow forgotten, or lost the ability to scroll or search:
Also, just a reminder:
I know that Rush Limbaugh’s a racist asshole. That’s a small sampling or racist dogshit right there (there’s more, you know!). But if you would be so kind as to answer my simple, direct questions as you promised to several times now, that would be swell. I won’t hold my breath.
The NFL is a business above all else. And why would a business allow itself to partner with a racist drug addict who happens to be the head of a very unpopular American political party?
Rush has every right to be a drug-addicted bigot. And the NFL has every right to tell him to go fuck himself. That’s how the free market works.
And again I have to ask, Dennis, is there any despicable person or act that you won’t defend?
First of all Zython, the Sadly, No! thread is down a ways. But since you display the same despicable race-bating behavior that Indeed does and you both disguise your identities, maybe you are betting off hangin’ with him.
Second, what link is broken?
Third, the link you provided does not address even remotely Bill O’Reilly’s research staff; it addresses O’Reilly’s ambushing tactics. So….what the hell are you talking about? Seriously, dude, you do this on every thread, you come on late and then start spouting nonsense. What the hell does this link you provide have anything the Sam Hell to do with O’Reilly’s research staff leaving something to be desired? What kind of idiot are you and how do you stay in school with the kind of logic you display here regularly. I mean, are all your exams multiple choice or something and you don’t have to write essays or do research papers?
Fourth, the story of the link you provided states Amanda Terkel was vacationing. No one, Zython,…. literally. no. one…. vacations in Winchester, VA. Trust me.
Fifth, as I said, whether you value his research staff or not, he claimed they searched and could find nothing. No reputable blog or journalist has provided one either. Neither has Media Matters. Not sure how much further down the credibility scale I can go, but if you or Sean or Indeed can source the quotes he’s been peddling regularly around here, take a stab at it. Maybe your Uni has some good resources.
You don’t see me defending Indeed’s despicable race-baiting slander, do you, like other people here are doing?
You never saw me defend Zython’s race-baiting slander on Sadly, NO! either, like you did, Jaim.
And you won’t see me defending your despicable bashing of Americans who live, work and graciously contribute charitably to America and Americans who you disagree with politically while living abroad and not paying taxes like you’re doing, either.
So there’s three despicable people I won’t defend right there. How many more do you need for a sufficient answer?
But since you display the same despicable race-bating behavior that Indeed does
He’s not one. You are, however, a race-baiting asshole. You’ve proven it here, multiple times, and you are quite comfortable with lying. It is congenital with you.
A non-sequitor. Did you ever apologize for many months of attributing quotes to him that he never made?
Don’t know what or who you are talking about here.
I am. My word is my bond and I answered you. You however, deny that you are a race-baiting asshole, but you cannot supply a source for a racist quote that you put quotation marks around that Limbaugh has denied saying.
Either you are lying or you are a race-baiting asshole, one or the other, or both, and your word is worth nothing.
And you are the yellow one for not backing up what you say.
Now why was that so difficult? Why would it have to be private? Weird.
He’s not one.
Expanded: He’s not. Because he’s just not! OK. He’s not! All that racist stuff, all those quotes at Media Matters and elsewhere, the extensive audio library, it’s not racist, because it’s not!
Also.
Once again, St. Louis Dispatch columnist Bryan Burwell:
Boy howdy!
Dennis, there was a time that I had the slightest bit of respect for you. But threads like these, and especially this one, have thankfully freed me from my misconceptions.
“I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: Slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.”
I’m not saying we should bring segregation back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, our water fountains were cleaner.
I’m not saying we should bring the crusades back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, we killed a lot of Muslims.
I’m not saying we should bring disco back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, John Travolta was a hunky stud in the 1970s.
I’m not saying we should bring the Holocaust back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, it did get rid of all those fucking Jews.
(that’s how much I hate disco. heh.)
Dennis has made a very good point about race-baiting. It’s a serious problem in this country that doesn’t get much (any) discussion in liberal land. Is it a bigger problem than racism? Maybe.
I don’t think Mambo actually knows much about the Crusades.
Dennis has made a very good point about race-baiting.
Not really.
It’s a serious problem in this country that doesn’t get much (any) discussion in liberal land.
I can see it as a problem. However, it is a direct reaction from the manner in which conservatives have conducted themselves for decades. First: The Southern Strategy. Second: Their inability to see racism IN ANYTHING that they (conservatives) do or say. As much as some liberals have a hair-trigger to cry racism, conservatives have a problem with being either blind, stupid, or disingenuous.
Is it a bigger problem than racism? Maybe.
False.
I don’t think Mambo actually knows much about the Crusades.
Please expand on this. I’d love to know who was fighting in these holy wars, because I seriously must be mistaken.
Or maybe you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Dennis has made a very good point about race-baiting. It’s a serious problem in this country that doesn’t get much (any) discussion in liberal land. Is it a bigger problem than racism? Maybe.
Questions swirl!
That’s the second (unintentionally) funniest thing I’ve read today.
Number one remains:
“Fourth, the story of the link you provided states Amanda Terkel was vacationing. No one, Zython,…. literally. no. one…. vacations in Winchester, VA. Trust me.”
Funny, Google and reality disagree with you Dennis:
http://maps.google.co.kr/maps?complete=1&hl=ko&lr=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=winchester+virginia+resort&fb=1&gl=kr&hq=resort&hnear=winchester+virginia&view=text&ei=4kfVSu6iOIjWtAO6×9XJBQ&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CDgQtQMwAA
Questions swirl!
As always.
Has Glenn Beck stopped beating his wife yet? And has he yet spoken to the allegations of him raping and murdering that little girl? It’s so weird that he hasn’t denied it. Makes you wonder…
Dennis writes “My word is my bond”
LOL.
Seriously, I’m laughing my ass off at this thread. Dennis is defending a known racist and saying it’s his detractors who are the “real” racists.
A nationally syndicated radio asshole/drug addict who gets his laughs by playiig songs like “Barack the Magic Negro.”
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/50979/
It’s awesome watching the GOP die a slow, painful, and hilarious death.
Good luck with all those black and hispanic votes in 2010 and 2012! Palin/Huckabee!
mambo,
Please don’t lecture me on respect when you repeat the same lie of a quote that Indeed continues to do. Limbaugh denies he said it, and no one here can provide any proof otherwise. It only exists in Indeed’s urban legend fantasy world.
Limbaugh denies he said it
See? None of it ever happened. None of it. Ever. Now take that bone out of your nose and call me back!
Whom you gonna believe, a nationally recognized columnist or an anonymous Dittohead Troll? Larry Wilmore or some dude in blog comments? Your lyin’ eyes and ears or “Dennis.” It’s a dilemma to be sure.
Jaim, fool, look at your f’ing link. The only two places they list in Wnchester is the Elk Lodge and the Moose Lodge. I kinda doubt Amanda Terkel was vacationing at the Winchester Elk Lodge or the Moose Lodge.
You’re a one man comedy show, dude.
And fyi, Front Royal and Boyce aren’t Winchester. If you’re going to either of those two places you tell people you are going to Front Royal or Boyce, you don’t go there and tell people you went to Winchester.
Maybe if you’re living in Seoul and your boss asks you where you went when you went to the resort in Boyce you might say Winchester if he’s heard of and is a fan of Patsy Cline, but that’s about it.
Sorry, you lose again. Pathetically so, this time.
How bout them Vikings?
Dennis also thinks Hitler’s anti-semitism was overblown by the liberal media. Really, if you think about it, it was the Europoean Jews who were the real anti-semites.
You Jews with your anti-semitism. Just stop it.
Signed,
A Republican Concerned For The Health of the Democratic Party
Indeed, that’s another line you’ve repeated 5 times on this thread alone, only because you’re too chickenshit to admit you have no sources for the quote you attribute to Limbaugh.
Either admit you’re a lying race-baiter or please back up your claim.
Shorter Dennis: Amanda Terkel is a big fat liar; she had it comin’!
WTF are you talking about? I never once said anything remotely like that. You’re as psychotically nonsensical as Indeed is.
Indeed, that’s another line you’ve repeated 5 times on this thread alone,
And yet it still resonates! Amazing, isn’t it! Is that Larry Wilmore funny or what? Not as funny as, “It’s just cool for liberals to bash Fox, and Obama never balks at the opportunity to appear cool,” but pretty darn funny.
(I looked it up!)
Please don’t lecture me on respect when you repeat the same lie of a quote that Indeed continues to do. Limbaugh denies he said it, and no one here can provide any proof otherwise. It only exists in Indeed’s urban legend fantasy world.
Again. This is the sort of thing I am talking about. Where, in that post, do I attribute that quote to Limbaugh? Fuck if I know whether he said it. And I don’t give a shit, really – if he did, it’s just another example of a long history of racist comments, and if he didn’t, then it doesn’t absolve him from the shit he’s said.
My post was poking fun with the use of the structure of the quote (fabricated or no). I even included “disco” and explained the joke to you, and you still didn’t fucking understand. Embarrassing. Seriously.
This is part of the reason I have lost respect for you. That, your whining about the “Glenn Beck raped and killed a little girl” meme, your inability to answer straightforward questions honestly and in a timely fashion, you defending Rush Limbaugh as “not a racist”… it’s really, really tired and obnoxious.
She wasn’t vacationing in Winchester; that’s all I’m saying. That and she completely wilted when the Fox guy asked her a couple of simple questions so bad that even I felt sorry for her. I mean, even Meghan McCain does better in far more hostile interviews than that poor girl did. Jesse Waters was just asking her questions about stuff she wrote about and did. She just stood there looking dumb, and I’m being charitable when I say that.
Sure, Dennis. Next you’ll be telling us you didn’t rape and murder a girl in 1990.
@Dennis-Wow I didn’t know you knew where everyone goes to vacation and if it’s a TRUE vacation spot.
Jesse Waters was just
asking her questions about stuff she wrote about and didstalking the living shit out of her for 2 hours and 90 miles.Dennis: Objectively pro-stalking. But what else would you expect from a Bill O’Reilly fan. Falafels, dude. Falafels.
Those things aren’t legal where you are, are they, Jaim?
I know that’s where all the John Mark Karr-type perv school teachers end up going after they’ve been found out here in the states and all.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1229024,00.html
You objectively lie and race-bait, Indeed. People in glass houses and all. Motes and beams and all that, dude.
But what else would anyone expect?
Dennis — I see you avoided responding to my direct questions to you. I take it from the silence that the following is true:
You think Limbaugh is tops! A misunderstood prophet of truth and light. Charges of racist assholery against him are part of a librul conspiracy founded on unsourced quotes and race baiting. All the sourced, proven, footnoted, notarized-in-triplicate-by-the-Pope-himself quotes about him are taken out of context. All the years of toxic sludge that poured out of his piehole is a collective auditory hallucination. Or something. Rush, though, not a racist. Liberals, race baiters. Which is worse. Way worse.
Seriously. You can’t even acknowledge that there might be, gosh, some inappropriate racial overtones to what Rush yammers on about? You instead go off on Indeed’s “race baiting”? Sure, sometimes the best defence is a good offence, but what are you defending this slime for? Just to be contrary? Or do you genuinely believe he’s not a racist asshole?
I am curious.
You objectively lie and race-bait, Indeed.
gumby,
You repeated the stupid ‘take the bone out of your nose’ fabrication. That kinda puts you in the not to be taken seriously category. If you want to run with Indeed that’s fine.
I answered you plenty on this thread. You just didn’t like the answers.
I can acknowledge a lot of things, but what you call ‘a good offense’ is just lying and fabrications. That’s not good offense. Obviously a lot of people here disagree, but it’s the same old ‘fake but accurate’ defenses, and it’s bullshit liberal tactics and nothing more.
Again, no answer! Amazing!
I’ll try again. You sincerely believe Rush is not a racist asshole. Y/N.
You repeated the stupid ‘take the bone out of your nose’ fabrication.
Fabrication? According to whom?
I guess syndicated columnist Bryan Burwell is a liar and a race baiter too. You know, for running Limbaugh quotes in his column. Media Matters’ audio library? Faked. Somehow. Must be. Obviously.
Next you’ll hear that Robert Stacy “Ol’ Gumshoe Bob” McCain isn’t a racist asshole either.
You objectively lie and race-bait, Indeed.
Congrats to you, Indeed. Good old-fashioned race-baiting ‘fake but accurate’ liberal offense has made you quite the hero here at OW.com.
You probably never imagined when you woke up this morning that you’d be getting all the accolades you’re getting now for just simply lying, did you? They love you.
Dennis, is the stuff that Oliver cites above made up? Y/N?
Answered that already.
I never said they were. And what are you, fucking Perry Mason?
Or fafaroo, jr.?
“Answered that already.”
…and what was the answer, refresh my memory…
Second, what link is broken?
This one.
Third, the link you provided does not address even remotely Bill O’Reilly’s research staff; it addresses O’Reilly’s ambushing tactics. So….what the hell are you talking about?
My point was that they were probably L-Y-I-N-G, hence the whole morality angle, but if you want an inaccuracy angle, let’s try this.
gumby,
Do you notice that Media Matters has nothing on the ‘take that bone out of your nose’ urban legend that you repeated?
Do you think in a million years they wouldn’t have that on that list Oliver reprinted here from his employer if Limbaugh had actually said it?
Answered that already.
Really? What did you say? Why can’t you repeat it now? Is the yes/no questions really that difficult? Are you embarrassed by your answer? Are you embarrassed that you (at least!) twice wrote of Racist Asshole Rush Limbaugh,
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/31/rush-limbaughs-premature-galt/#comment-167636
Wow. It’s Tiger Beat for Wingnuts.
Do you notice that Media Matters has nothing on the ‘take that bone out of your nose’ urban legend that you repeated?
Huh. I hadn’t seen that list. Wow, there’s a lot of quotes there. And none of them are racist at all in any way. Huh. Who knew?
Do you think in a million years they wouldn’t have that on that list Oliver reprinted here from his employer if Limbaugh had actually said it?
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you: Lionel Hutz, Attorney at Law.
Second, what link is broken?
Here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGUWKsu_K2o
WHO was lying? There was nothing on that link about O’Reilly’s research staff. Morality angle? WTF are you talking about, Zython? Honestly, I think you are smoking a lot of dope when you come on here or are fried from playing your computer games all night long. You never make any sense at all. And even if you point is that his staff made a mistake or was lying or whatever, the point, for the fifteenth time, is that they found nothing on what Indeed claims is true, or doesn’t have the decency to defend. I didn’t say his research was definitive, I said they found nothing attributable to Limbaugh and no one that’s peddling the same fabrication can say where they heard it from.
Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend despite multiple very simple explanations?
“I never said they were. And what are you, fucking Perry Mason?”
Nor have you acknowledged them either. And no, I’m not fucking Perry Mason. (Though Della Reese was kinda hot). I’ve been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and provide you an opportunity to clarify where you stand, give you the opportunity to say “Yeah, sure, Rush says some pretty nasty things, but…” But instead it’s avoidance and insults…
Rush is not someone that has less than zero capital in the “benefit of the doubt” or “let’s argue in good faith” department. I mean, why bother race baiting this asshole when so much racism is on the record?
I really don’t know what you are taking such offense to here, and am genuinely curious about why you have taken this tack so aggressively.
Dennis, do you ever get tired of dancing for our amusement?
And please, it would be best for you to come clean about your involvement with the rape and murder of that poor girl in 1990. Until you make your innocence clear we have to assume you are guilty.
“It’s Tiger Beat for Wingnuts.”
They need something to read at their Orc Cotillions.
WHO was lying?
Bill O’s “research team”, who else?
Morality angle
Ok, I might have been a little unclear. But the point is that Bill O’ and his cronies are pretty unscrupulous, so his “research team” doesn’t have a clean slate.
WTF are you talking about, Zython?
Translation: I’m pretending not to know what you are talking about, therefore, you are wrong.
Honestly, I think you are smoking a lot of dope when you come on here or are fried from playing your computer games all night long.
What happened to the whole “no personal attack rule” you cared so much about, Denny-boy?
And even if you point is that his staff made a mistake or was lying or whatever, the point, for the fifteenth time, is that they found nothing on what Indeed claims is true,
My point is this: What proof do you have that they even tried?
Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend despite multiple very simple explanations?
I could ask you the very same question.
Also, since you were obvious too lazy and stupid to do the research yourself, I did it for you. Then again, you’re probably used to other people doing your work for you.
Here you are.
That kind of research wouldn’t get you a C in junior college, Zython. Your own link says “Mixture” as to the validity of the allegations whether they are true or made up. It just says they are out there on the internet somewhere. By posting that, you prove your own stupidity and laziness. Or else you didn’t even bother to read it.
@Dennis- We all see that you will not answer Indeed’s questions because you feel that ONE quote is not true. Fine, let’s take out that one quote(”I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: Slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back. I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.”).
Now what is you answer to Indeed’s questions; a reminder ““Did Rush Limbaugh stop being a racist asshole? Did he ever apologize for many years of serial racist assholery? Did Dittohead defenders of the racist asshole ever come clean?”
So what are your answers?
oops meant to say “lets take that one quote out…..”
Bedtime for me.
cj,
Apparently it was bedtime for quite a while ago. Go back and read the thread. I answered the questions. I answered them in the same manner he answered on whether or not he was a race-baiting and race-hustling asshole for repeatedly quoting someone for statements someone has denied ever saying and for which there is no record of his ever saying, either.
Now, since we have two posters here, both far left liberals, who have posted false highly racists comments and attributed them to people who never said those things, and who are both proud of doing it, do you think they are being race-baiting assholes for doing so?
Do you condone false attributions to someone because you believe that person could easily have said it and it provides a good offense against someone you don’t like?
Did the posters here who defended this lying, race-baiting and race-hustling behavior on this thread ever come clean?
So what are your answers?
Your own link says “Mixture” as to the validity of the allegations whether they are true or made up.
Huh. You’re right. It says some are true and some aren’t. And look which one’s true! “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back!” Wow! Who could have predicted! What a horrible thing to say. If Dennis hadn’t corrected me, I might even think that’s precisely the sort of thing a racist asshole would say.
Hmm. Let’s put on our “Ol’ Gumshoe Bob” hats and dig deeper and find out which ones are true and which are unsubstantiated even if they fit a well-defined pattern of both speech and content.
True:
But remember, according to Dennis, this isn’t the least bit racist.
True:
Would a racist asshole say that? Not according to Dennis.
True:
Racist assholery? Not according to Dennis. And he just knows.
True
Gee, it sounds like racism. I wonder what Dennis thinks.
True:
Everything at Media Matters. They’ve got the audiotapes and the transcripts. But Dennis says that his idol, Ol’ Rushie, isn’t a racist asshole.
I answered the questions.
And yet, for some reason, Dittohead Troll can’t repeat his answers. Can’t even cut ‘n’ paste ‘em. Is he embarrassed at the answers he gave? They weren’t even very long? How odd.
To all of you who proclaim to know what Rush has said, here’s the question: “have you EVER listened to Rush’s radio program”. I’ll bet YOU HAVEN’T and now you proclaim to know what he said. RUSH HAS NEVER STATED ANYTHING RACIST ABOUT ANYONE. He states facts and one fact is that obama is NOT descended from slavery. Why are the facts soooooooooo hard for you. Could it be due to your own RACISM.
Only proves your psychotic need to keep repeating questions, Indeed.
And your demands for answers to questions are never-ending. Answers are only met with more questions from you.
And your need to have answers from me and no one else is the very definition of stalking.
What is it about how I feel about Rush Limbaugh so intriguing to you? Why does it matter to you>
My opinions repulse you, yet you hunger for them. Makes no sense.
Only presumes it’s true based on an article from a million years ago in which he suppposedly expresses remorse for some statements he made a million years prior to that, and Snope, crack researchers that they are, doesn’t even link to the article to see what his supposed admission was or just what the F he was talking about. It’s not only the kind of research that wouldn’t get them a C in an entry level junior college, it makes you look inferior to even them for relying on it to slander someone else, Indeed.
Again, why doesn’t Media Matters list that quote in their complilation of his ‘racially-charged’ quotes? Even Media Matters doesn’t stoop that low, Indeed.
But you do.
Curious, huh?
No scruples, Indeed. AND you’re a stalker psychotic.
Hmm. Mercury Morris agreed with him. Repeated it, actually.
Is Mercury Morris a racist asshole, Race-hustler Indeed?
Cherry Picking Dittohead Troll ignores the body of work (and fails to provide links to assertion)
Only presumes it’s true based on an article from a million years ago in which he suppposedly expresses remorse for some statements he made a million years prior to that, and Snope, crack researchers that they are, doesn’t even link to the article to see what his supposed admission was or just what the F he was talking about. It’s not only the kind of research that wouldn’t get them a C in an entry level junior college, it makes you look inferior to even them for relying on it to slander someone else, Indeed.
Translation: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back!”
Whom to believe: Newsday, FAIR, Snopes, the NFL Players Association, my own eyes and ears, Media Matters for America, and other sources, or “Dennis” the anonymous Dittohead Troll and My Racist Uncle. Gosh, I just hope Yoda grants me the wisdom to choose wisely
That still seems racist to me. But Dennis says it isn’t. What to do, what to do…
The Faith-Based Encyclopedia In Action
Ed Driscoll explains how scumbags like Indeed who peddle fabricated quotes do what they do, and how they get away with it.
Dirtbags. Lying filth.
and how they get away with it.
By sourcing it?
One link, although I’m pretty sure it’s been noted already:
http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/rush_limbaugh
You haven’t sourced shit, Indeed.
You can’t. And worse, you can’t admit that you can’t. Instead you do everything but provide sources for the quotes you peddle the most.
That is scumbaggery defined.
You wallow in it.
Ed Driscoll explains how scumbags like Indeed who peddle fabricated quotes do what they do, and how they get away with it.
The plot thickens: It’s now not merely a choice between Newsday, FAIR, Snopes, the NFL Players Association, my own eyes and ears, Media Matters for America, and other sources, or “Dennis” the anonymous Dittohead Troll and My Racist Uncle. It’s become a choice between Newsday, FAIR, Snopes, the NFL Players Association, my own eyes and ears, Media Matters for America, and other sources, or “Dennis” the anonymous Dittohead Troll and My Racist Uncle and another Dittohead Limbaugh apologist. Oh deary dear. I sure hope I choose wisely.
You’ve only chosen to evade.
Please provide a source for the slavery quote you attribute to Rush Limbaugh and peddle every day as if it’s true.
By not doing so you admit you are a race-baiting, race-hustling liar who takes great pride in his scumbaggery.
Please provide a source for the slavery quote you attribute to Rush Limbaugh and peddle every day as if it’s true.
I already did.
No, you didn’t. You did no such thing.
You continue to lie, deceive and malign, and take pride in it.
No, you didn’t. You did no such thing.
Look harder. I’m not your do-boy.
Your own link says “Mixture” as to the validity of the allegations whether they are true or made up.
When did I state they were all true? All I stated is that I got more accomplished searching Snopes than you did whining here as usual.
That kind of research wouldn’t get you a C in junior college, Zython.
I’d rather hear that from someone who actually did any research.
Be prepared for a group of Black investor to purchase the Rams.
Limbaugh is being marginalized in order to pave the way.
It’s the NFL and they play by their own rules. So be it.
This makes no sense. If they are not true and Snopes tells you that they have no sourcing, and you link to something that’s been posted here numerous times, how can you claim you accomplished something? Something that, like I said, would be laughed at by any community college entry-level professor.
Ok, ask anyone who does research how highly they value Snopes.com and whether or not the fact that they provide no sourcing for a quote would mean diddly squat to them. Ask them that if in their footnotes to a research paper their inclusion the reference “Snopes.com” how much it would impress their professor that it was relied on to make a point.
Ask the posters here who do research; Rheinhard and Southern Quaker, how often they use Snopes in their research.
I’d honestly like to know.
Have you or do you ever use them in a reference in any papers you’ve turned in in college?
Here’s some research:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vIE6GkLH8
Why type of research do you have that is legitimate? If you can source the tapes and provide support for your accusations, than I might be interested in joining the protest. But thus far, nothing but hearsay…I think this is all about politics and nothing more, but I’ll wait for you to do the due diligence, nonetheless.
As we head into hour 18 of Race-Baitgate (Dennis’ one man off-off-off Broadway show), beleagured readers now discover that Dennis now needs peer reviewed academic literature in order to support the contention that Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole. You have high standards, sir.
Would Franken’s “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot” suffice? (I’m guessing I know the answer to that).
Would Franken’s “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot” suffice? (I’m guessing I know the answer to that).
Senator Franken.
More sourcing:
http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/the_lessons_of_history/#When:07:45:20Z
Kinda spooky considering the recent “Pelosi = Hitler” flapdoodle from the awesome Republicans.
Nah, gumby, they only appear high to you and your race-hustling, ‘fake-but-accurate’ friend here becuase neither possesses anything in the way of standards to begin with.
And I don’t care what source you want to throw out, just cite your references, and what was said, and an audio or a transcript would be nice, too. You’d expect no less if someone was going around falsely maligning you I would imagine. Or am I wrong on that?
If they are not true and Snopes tells you that they have no sourcing
Only SOME of them are like that (remember “Mixture”?).
Something that, like I said, would be laughed at by any community college entry-level professor.
Two words: Fuck you. In case you haven’t noticed, this isn’t college, it’s a fucking blog. Get over yourself, you’re not important.
And I don’t care what source you want to throw out, just cite your references, and what was said, and an audio or a transcript would be nice, too.
Done and done:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/13/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-slaps-down-rush-limbaugh/#comment-184284
(And all the other citations. Also.)
race-hustling
Translation: “It’s worse to call someone a racist than it is to actually be racist.”
You’d expect no less if someone was going around falsely maligning you I would imagine.
You mean like you?
You don’t much like being challenged, do you, Zython?
For when you venture out in the real world some day, try to understand that people don’t just so easily swallow your nonsense that you found on some whack job blog somewhere that your compatriots here do.
And you might want to make sure just whoever you are that no one can trace back your false identity race-baiting you did on Sadly, No! when they check out your background for hiring you. People in the business world tend not to want to do business with fakes. Especially ones who use race when they do it.
I never said that, not even close. I haven’t made any kind of a statement on someone simply calling someone a racist. I have said that the race-baiting you did was bottom of the barrel scumminess and you have no standing after doing such a low-life scumbag move to judge anyone on being racist. You just don’t.
Who have I falsely maligned?
nonsense that you found on some whack job blog somewhere
http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/
Just not the scumbag quote on slavery being a good thing that you’ve been peddling that I’ve been asking you to provide citations for, that you keep cowardly evading having to come clean about.
Who have I falsely maligned?
Well, no one falsely. Any and all maligning from the Rush Limbaugh Tiger Beat Patrol was intentional as far as I can tell.
Just not the scumbag quote on slavery being a good thing that you’ve been peddling that I’ve been asking you to provide citations for, that you keep cowardly evading having to come clean about.
Indeed.
To show the quote again, Indeed, that you attributed to Limbaugh, with full quotation marks to indicate you were quoting him exactly:
Do you have any sourcing for this quote you’ve been peddling; or are you a race-baiting, race-hustling liar?
It’s one or the other.
No, you didn’t.
No, you aren’t.
You’re not even Indeed. You’re Mister ed, the other fake inhabitant of this blog. You changed your identity and didn’t tell anyone and even denied that you did it.
the other fake inhabitant of this blog
I’m not real? Who’s the other fake inhabitant?
You changed your identity and didn’t tell anyone and even denied that you did it.
You got sourcing for that, or are you merely basing that on well-defined patterns of both syntax and content?
Well, if we are being uber-fair, here, note that I made no unsourced references. I made a one off quip with the bone-nose thing (I confess, without digging through the academic literature first, mea culpa, though it is popularly attributed to him and isn’t exactly out of character, you’ll agree), though I never actually said Rush said it. So slandering me that I used unsourced quotes to slander someone else is “fake but accurate”, as you would put it. But I’m such a good guy and manage my OCD fairly well I let it slide.
And falsely maligning? You ARE saying that Rush isn’t a racist asshole! Oliver’s sourced quotes notwithstanding. Wowza.
Ha! If that’s not an admission of guilt I don’t know what is.
I have said that the race-baiting you did was bottom of the barrel scumminess and you have no standing after doing such a low-life scumbag move to judge anyone on being racist.
Too bad I didn’t rape anyone, then you’d be tripping over yourself to defend me.
on some whack job blog
Snopes is a “whack job blog” now? I guess “whack job blog” is code for “place that says stuff I don’t like”.
Who have I falsely maligned?
Me, for one. The PotUS is another one.
Ha! If that’s not an admission of guilt I don’t know what is.
Well, if you say so.
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/13/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-slaps-down-rush-limbaugh/#comment-184312
Indeed.
You regularly post things from obscure far-left fringe, whack-job blogs, yes. Quite regularly.
Kids in their twenties are more likely to be infatuated with one-off conspiracy theories and totally bullshit dialogue from anyone that sounds like they know what they’re talking about, and that’s exactly where you are.
You weren’t maligned. You just can’t stand up to scrutiny or any kind of a challenge without melting like an ice cream cone on a blazing hot summer day.
You regularly post things from obscure far-left fringe, whack-job blogs, yes. Quite regularly.
Just look at all the citations. Look at ‘em. So many. So many links…
You just can’t stand up to scrutiny or any kind of a challenge without melting like an ice cream cone on a blazing hot summer day.
So said the TuffGuy Troll who’s recent retorts included that classic:
and the also classic:
TuffGuy Troll effectively says “I know you are, but what am I?”
Dude. Laffer curve. Last January. No one named Indeed ever posted then, much less harped on it 24/7/365 besides you as Mister ed and CSS. Mister ed stopped posting in May. Indeed started posting in late June/early July. Somehow Indeed starts harping on the Laffer curve and repeatedly posting it in psychotically insane fashion demanding answers to whatever idiotic question of his was. Do you expect anyone to believe that you as Indeed just showed up here and started going back in the archives and felt that particular conversation needed to be addressed again, even though you were never involved in it in the first place? Even using the exact same pattern of syntax and content all the while?
Do you honestly think everyone here is that dumb and that you are so slick.
And are you a race-baiting asshole for not sourcing the Rush Limbaugh fabricated slavery quote you’ve been peddling for quite a while now?
So many questions. So few answers from you.
Dennis: So the point was, here’s your chance to make a mockery of O’reilly’s research staff and prove that you could find and source the quotes attributed to Limbaugh that they said they researched and came up empty, and then you’d be a liberal blog hero.
No, the point was Limbaugh is a racist as shown by many of the things he has said. You’re trying to keep the focus on two which you’re saying are unsourced while ignoring all the rest. You’re trying to keep the discussion on “Indeed can’t back up those two specific quotes” instead of “Is Limbaugh racist?”
I’ve already said, ignore those two quotes. Consider just those which ARE sourced. Consider the things that Limbaugh has undeniably said. Is Limbaugh a racist? And you refuse to answer and instead keep saying “But over here in the weeds Indeed brought up two questionable quotes. Let’s keep talking about them.”
To refresh your memory, you attributed the following to Rush Limbaugh:
Do you have any sourcing for this quote you’ve been peddling; or are you a race-baiting, race-hustling liar?
Defend your honor or admit you have none.
Oh boy. I’m afraid I have to admit that I made a mistake in attributing a racist quote to Racist Asshole Rush Limbaugh. I may have sort of, kind of, implicitly suggested (a bit) that Mr. Limbaugh said…
Racist asshole Rush Limbaugh never said that. The quote is from the racist asshole Robert Stacy McCain, who, it turns out, is another hero of our resident Fox News Troll, “Dennis” (shocker). I deeply regret the error and accept full responsibility for it. I fully apologize to Oliver Willis and all of his many commenters. Please find in your hearts to forgive me.
Dennis: Fourth, the story of the link you provided states Amanda Terkel was vacationing. No one, Zython,…. literally. no. one…. vacations in Winchester, VA. Trust me.
So someone says they are on vacation and you say it’s just not possible because you just know that nobody vacations there. Despite what they themselves may say. You know different and therefore it is different.
I kinda doubt Amanda Terkel was vacationing at the Winchester Elk Lodge or the Moose Lodge.
Again, not that you actually know. You just doubt it, so therefore it absolutely must not be. You just know that there is no other place else anyone might go in Winchester on vacation. If it wasn’t one of two places mentioned in a particular Google link, then there simply can’t be any other places to go. Not that you know Terkel wasn’t at one of those two places. You just doubt it, so clearly she was not.
Do you not see what you’re doing there?
You know who knew that Amanda Terkel was vacationing in Winchester? Bill O’Reilly’s goon squad. They ought to. They stalked her, following her for 2 hours and over 90 miles from Washington, DC. Which is SOP for the super-classy Bill O’Reilly. He knows a thing or two about stalking women. Just ask Andrea Makris.
Indeed: And yet, for some reason, Dittohead Troll can’t repeat his answers.
OK with me if he doesn’t repeat them. He did finally give, without elaboration, an answer: No, Limbaugh is not racist.
Not an opinion which has much support or bears up to much scrutiny, of course. But he did (finally) give an answer to at least that question. Nonsensical though it may be.
…and I’m not sure what “race baiting” is intended to mean in this context. Is it that you think we have set up Rush in some way in order to elicit a slip of the tongue so that he can be mischaracterized? What is the “baiting” part? I don’t think one needs to bait when the fish just leap out of the water into your boat, if you follow my metaphor.
And are you going to show that you have the honor you expect of others and retract your fake but accurate slander of me?
Yeah, I pointed out the ridiculousness of Jaim googling ‘Winchester’ and ‘vacations’ and posting it here from his apartment in Seoul, South Korea and thinking he proved a point, when he didn’t.
You want to come out East and see for yourself, you are welcome to stay at our house. Bring your clubs if you want and we’ll find a nice course in that area, but unfortunately, it’s not a place to vacation. Especially in March. Amanda Terkel being Terkeled by Jesse Watters and embarrassed so and then claiming her privacy was invaded because she was on vacation is as ridiculous as Indeed claiming he didn’t change his identity from Mr. ed.
OK with me if he doesn’t repeat them. He did finally give, without elaboration, an answer: No, Limbaugh is not racist.
That’s KatG, but Trolly’s inability to repeat the answers is weird. Getting there took a weird route too. I don’t know for sure, of course, but I think it has something to do with Trolly’s cognitive dissonance approaching critical mass.
Amanda Terkel being Terkeled by Jesse Watters and embarrassed so and then claiming her privacy was invaded because she was on vacation is as ridiculous as….
For the record: Bill O’Reilly Troll thinks Amanda Terkel deserved to be stalked (two hours, over 90 miles). Against all odds, the bar keeps dropping.
Sean, for your sake, don’t be an asshole. You want an explanation of how I feel about the guy, email me, but I’m not posting it here.
You guys, many of you anyway, called Joe Biden a racist asshole and worse when he opposed Barack Obama. Then when he dropped out of the race and subsequently was named Obama’s running mate for VP, suddenly he wasn’t a racist asshole to anyone here any more. So who is and what constitutes a racist asshole for you guys doesn’t have any consistency other than that if someone is conservative and has ever uttered a racist statement then that makes them racist for as long as they stay conservative.
So who is and what constitutes a racist asshole for you guys doesn’t have any consistency other than that if someone is conservative and has ever uttered a racist statement then that makes them racist for as long as they stay conservative.
Sean, for your sake, don’t be an asshole. You want an explanation of how I feel about the guy, email me, but I’m not posting it here.
No, because the Russians might find out. Or something. But he will call Sean an asshole here. How charming.
Indeed/ Mr.ed,
Trolls change their identities and claim they were never the original poster. Trolls post quotes that they know full well are not true representations of what the person said and do it with wanton abandon until they are shown to be the fakes that they truly are.
Trolls repeat things over and over and over and over, the same things no matter what the thread.
There is no bigger troll here than you, my friend.
Me paying attention to you enough to embarrass the holy shit out of you does nothing to you except satisfy your desperate and pathetic hunger for attention.
Attention troll….. Indeed.
I’d rather see you beg for it from now until Kingdom Come. That and I don’t feel the need to give you any more material that you’ll post another 500 times between now and Christmas.
Take that bone out of your nose and call me back!
The only source for this is … Limbaugh. In a 1990 Newsday piece right when he syndicated wide nationally and was trying to drum up an audience.
Certainly El Rushbo, The Dr. of Democracy, The Man The Legend The Way of Life, Mr. 1/2 My Brain Tied Behind My Back, Mr. I Am Equal Time wouldn’t “admit” to making an outrageous statement to try to increase the tune-in factor for a brand-new show. Would he?
Certainly, if he said it, there’s tape. Why haven’t we heard it in the 20+ subsequent years?
Trolls post quotes that they know full well are not true representations of what the person said
Whoa. Now hold on there, Old Sport. I admitted my mistake and took full responsibility for it (http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/13/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-slaps-down-rush-limbaugh/#comment-184384).
Did you ever apologize for the awful ad hominem attack on David Weigel (or for that matter Ta-Nehisi Coates) (http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/28/a-different-sort-of-take-back-america/#comment-181514)? After being repeatedly called out on it? I must have missed that. Shame on you, Sir Troll-a-Lot.
“You want an explanation of how I feel about the guy, email me, but I’m not posting it here.”
Why not? Again, I’m genuinely curious as to why you are so reticent. Seems to me to be directly relevant to the position you’ve taken that attributed quotes are unfairly maligning the man. Back it up by having the stones to say what you actually think rather than simply attacking Indeed ad nauseum.
Certainly, if he said it, there’s tape. Why haven’t we heard it in the 20+ subsequent years?
Proving, what, exactly? Did Newsday ever issue a retraction? I must have missed that. I’m still going with Newsday, FAIR, Snopes, et al over Anonymous Dittohead Troll and My Racist Uncle every time. That’s just how I roll.
What is your affection for Dave Weigel all about? I’ve heard people call Jonah Goldberg on here and on other nutroots blogs called Doughy Pantload a thousand times. And Rush Limbaugh a fat lardass pig an equal number of times. I saw that guy on MSNBC doing the typical yes-man head bob and noticed that he’s far more overweight than either of the two guys liberals love to bash for their weight.
Why are you such a wimp that you feel so wronged by that assessment that you can’t let it go. I’m not the least bit embarrassed about saying he’s likely got a higher BMI than either Goldberg or Limbaugh. But somehow I get the impression you’re going to cry about it.
“Why are you such a wimp that you feel so wronged by that assessment that you can’t let it go. I’m not the least bit embarrassed about saying he’s likely got a higher BMI than either Goldberg or Limbaugh. But somehow I get the impression you’re going to cry about it.”
First you call Sean an asshole, and now this pathetic, childish outburst. Just a reminder:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/30/site-etiquette/
Yet another recap:
I owned up to my error:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/13/nfl-commissioner-roger-goodell-slaps-down-rush-limbaugh/#comment-184384
I wanted to see if you could admit an obvious mistake:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/28/a-different-sort-of-take-back-america/#comment-181514
Everyone can plainly see how that worked out (…bites when cornered). Stay classy Dennis.
SDM: Do you not see what you’re doing there?
Dennis: Yeah, I pointed out the ridiculousness of Jaim googling ‘Winchester’ and ‘vacations’ and posting it here from his apartment in Seoul, South Korea and thinking he proved a point, when he didn’t.
No, to both. No, the comment you posted did not point out any ridiculousness of Jaim. And no, you clearly are oblivious to what you did there.
Which was to claim something was patently false merely because you wanted it to be so. You had no basis for your claim, you made no support for your claim. Yet you declared that someone else was lying about where they vacationed because you didn’t think anyone would vacation there.
Where they vacationed or not is a minor point. You’re insistence that something is false just because you “know” that it is different (when you really don’t) does help explain things about how you see reality. (Or don’t, as the case seems to be.)
Indeed: That’s KatG, but Trolly’s inability to repeat the answers is weird.
KatG?
Anyway, so what if he doesn’t repeat. Trying to shift things off to irrelevant minutia and complaining about them is his shtick. Don’t co-opt it.
He answered. Done. If you want to keep complaining, complain about how his answer doesn’t make sense. Not about how it wasn’t repeated some magic number of times.
Probably the term race-hustling is more accurate to what Indeed is doing. All he’s doing, really, is following in the footsteps laid out by the liberal agenda.
Here, in a nutshell, gumby, is the situation:
Dems worried low turnout among black voters will lose them the House
Last year, Democrats sailed to their current majority of over 70 seats in the House, thanks to the coattails of Barack Obama, especially among African-American voters who turned out in record numbers. In 2010, without Obama on the top of the ticket and with Democrats increasingly isolated on their agenda, that majority may disappear. Democratic strategists worry about record low turnouts among black voters and what that might mean for the midterms next year:….
Do you really think Indeed is so miffed at a quote he can’t even source from 30 years ago that he needs to repeat it a thousand times to quell that anger? Not just miffed, but angered at the African-American population so much that he honestly feels he has to keep repeating something for their benefit, like he is their champion. I’m not talking about just once or twice, but he’s done it hundreds of times. Do you really think the average black guy thinks he speaks for them when he repeats it over and over? Think about it. It’s just his thinking he’s doing right by the party apparatus and keeping the ‘all conservatives are racist’ and “Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party’ memes alive and kicking through this fall’s elections and next year’s midterms so African-Americans show up for those, too, hopefully.
But you already knew that, didn’t you, gumby?
Dennis: Sean, for your sake, don’t be an asshole. You want an explanation of how I feel about the guy, email me, but I’m not posting it here.
Note to self: sticking up for Dennis in even a minor way gets you called an asshole.
You’re not posting it here? Why not? You’ve spent much of a, what, 200+ (Jesus!) comment thread talking about Limbaugh and now you’ll only talk about your view of the guy in private?
I honestly don’t get that.
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Anyway, so what if he doesn’t repeat.
Naw, I can dig it. I’m just saying it’s weird. Which it is. Still.
Do you really think Indeed is so…wah-wah wah wah wah-wah
Nah, I just really really really hate racist assholes. And I’m not keen on those who defend racist assholes. That’s it. That’s all.
Dennis: Trolls repeat things over and over and over and over, the same things no matter what the thread.
Says someone who just repeated himself for about the tenth time.
Honestly, there isn’t that much difference between you and the folks you criticize.
Honestly, there isn’t that much difference between you and the folks you criticize.
Projectamundo!
You’re going to dig your heels in on this one, aren’t you? I am not a journalist that did research on Amanda Terkel and scouted out her destination, nor did I interview her, nor did I check with Jesse Watters to determine where he eventually confronted her and embarrassed her to no end. I admit I offered my opinion from having driven through there countless times. That, and I live not terribly far from there and DC and I have never, ever, ever heard anyone say they went to Winchester to vacation. Not in the summer, not in the winter, not in the spring, not in the fall. They might stop there for the weekend in the fall and drive down Skyline Drive on the Shenandoah Mtn range for the fall colors, but that is a long shot, even. She went there in late February. My opinion was she’s just went to visit someone for the weekend outside of DC and said she was on vacation because it sounds more like the act of stalking her than just following her outside of DC until she came to a stop. I never said this was fact, and it’s weird but quite typical of you to be so intrigued by what my opinion is on such a trivial matter.
Dennis: You want an explanation of how I feel about the guy, email me, but I’m not posting it here.
I’ll take you up on it. Alas, I no longer have the email you sent from some time ago, so I don’t know your email address. Do you still have mine?
Nor you, really, Sean. You surprised me with your defense of Sergeant Crowley, but other than that you’ve towed the nutroots liberal line all the way. You’re not as confrontational nor as psychotic as Indeed, but just as bull-headed. We all come here for the verbal jousting. I never claimed that no one could ever tag me with the hypocrite label, but liberals make a good living feigning outrage at conservative hypocrisy and pretend they aren’t hypocrites, when in reality they are. And it’s the white guys that do most of the wailing about racism here and typically those guys are the ones who hold the most bigoted views toward people they don’t agree with more than anyone else. Really, all you guys are bigoted in some manner, with varying degrees yes, but you definitely are. So I question the fervor of a few of you that feel the need to make Rush Limbaugh Public Enemy #1, when in reality, it’s really all just a game to you. That’s really why I don’t care to give you my honest opinion of the guy- certain assholes will just exploit it, contort it, repeat it and mock it.
Anyway, so what if he doesn’t repeat.
I hate repeating shit, Indeed. F’ing waste of time. Too many of you’se guys, too little of me.
“But you already knew that, didn’t you, gumby?”
The hell does that mean?
Dennis: but other than that you’ve towed the nutroots liberal line all the way.
Clearly, you’ve missed several postings or just haven’t been paying attention.
Dennis: I hate repeating shit, Indeed.
Dennis: I never claimed that no one could ever tag me with the hypocrite label
‘Nuff said.
Certainly El Rushbo, The Dr. of Democracy, The Man The Legend The Way of Life, Mr. 1/2 My Brain Tied Behind My Back, Mr. I Am Equal Time wouldn’t “admit” to making an outrageous statement to try to increase the tune-in factor for a brand-new show. Would he?
So Limbaugh was race-bating himself? That’s FAR worse than being a racist! Just ask Dennis.
Stop being a crybaby and grow the fuck up, Zython. What you did was far worse than anything Limbaugh ever said. You admitted it to Leslie at Sadly, NO! but you can’t seem to see your way clear to do it here, so you continue to sulk about it.
Dennis: Stop being a crybaby and grow the fuck up
Dennis: I never claimed that no one could ever tag me with the hypocrite label
You’re harshin’ my laughin’ buzz, Sean.
What you did was far worse than anything Limbaugh ever said.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, bud.
Look, Limbaugh is a racist drug addict. That’s the bottom line. But this is yet another example where supposedly free-marketeer Republicans can’t understand Economics 101.
Limbaugh is the de-facto leader of a very unpopular political party. He is on record as saying obviously racist things not just about blacks, but about black football players. Limbaugh owning a team, even as part of a group, would simply be bad for the NFL’s business.
So stop acting like a bunch of fucking cry-babies when your racist drug-addicted leader isn’t let into the private club that is professional football.
To look at it another way, do you think the NFL would be excited if Michael Moore wanted to buy the Detroit Lions? Probably not, although the problems would be entirely political and not about racism the way they are with Klan-master Rush.
Shorter Dennis: “If Hitler had killed twelve million Jews we could call him an anti-semite. But he only killed six million, and Snopes shows that only half the allegations of Jew-killing are accurate. You guys are totally the anti-Semites on this one.”
Jaim,
Snopes doesn’t shit for accuracy. Could you have gotten away with referencing Snopes on any research you did at yooveeay?
Snopes doesn’t shit for accuracy.
Evidence? Link? Citation? Verb?
This somehow proves your idol is not a racist asshole? Does Meadia Matters for America “shit for accuracy”? One is curious.
Snopes doesn’t show shit for accuracy.
And Jaim, for all the whack jobs that swarm to this site like buzzards to roadkill, only you would equate the slaughter of 12 million Jews with a the dubious claim that a website called Snopes actually got 1/2 of a claim right.
You are pretty much the whackiest of the whack-jobs with that one.
Not humoring you again tonight, Indeed. You’ll have to find someone else to stalk, to be the object of your desire.
Holy shit, Hannah Giles is on the Factor. Where’s teh Tivo remote?
Not humoring you again tonight, Indeed.
Translation: I can’t show my work, so I’m going to give up. A Palin Guy is a quitter. Whoda thunk it?
Dennis, did Limbaough say stupidly racist things about NFL quaterback Donovan McNabb on a live feed for a football game? Yes or no? In particular, didn’t he suggest that the only reason McNabb was a starting quaterback was because he was black, and not because of his talent?
Jimmy the Greek lost his career for saying one stupid racist thing. Limbaugh has no one but himself to blame for blowing the racist dogwhistle for so many years and then being told to go fuck himself since he’d be bad for a league made up of predominantly black players who think he’s a vile, racist scumbag.
Go buy a cluestick and hit yourself over the head with it.
OK, fine. Once again:
Link, yet again. Heh. Again.
Dennis: You’re harshin’ my laughin’ buzz, Sean.
By quoting your own words? Harshin’ yourself.
Goodall and your LIBERAL FRIENDS are a disgrace to US sports. Now you are playing politics. What a shame.
“So I question the fervor of a few of you that feel the need to make Rush Limbaugh Public Enemy #1, when in reality, it’s really all just a game to you.”
It might be a game to you but going after Rush is not a game at all. He’s a slobbering racist asshole that appeals to the lowest part of the Imperial Animal and has made a killing doing so. Finally, his history of bigotry has caught up with him and slapped his face. But all the ddittoheads will rally around the paranoid racist and blame the liberal media for all the stupid things HE has said over the years. He has immunity only in his tight little circle of like minded supporters but he’s finally had a dose of reality and his bubble has burst. Amen to that. BTW we have dittoheads up here; I worked with one for a while and he was an asshole too.
“Goodall and your LIBERAL FRIENDS are a disgrace to US sports. Now you are playing politics. What a shame.”
I think the NFL, or any pro sports league for that matter, is doing just fine without GOP party leader Limbaugh.
You’re attacking him because he’s a conservative. Joe Biden made a few racists statements that would be on the same Media Matters hit list compiled for Limbaugh and you guys called him a racist. And now not one single guy here will honestly assess how and why you did it now that he’s been chosen by Obama as the VP. He’s a liberal, and you guys all want to hide or downplay that there a lot of liberals with racist biases too, but all is forgiven if they’re liberals. It is a game, canadian bacon. And again. it’s always the Flip form Whiteboyz white guy a-holes here like Jaim and Indeed who scream the loudest, which also just proves the joke of it all. Watch the clip I posted of O’Reilly interviewing the black sports journalist when he tells him the quotes he’s using against Limbaugh to make his case are not on any record and see his face when he’s exposed for repeating the lie being spread around. It’s a cottage industry for the most of you. Then for fun, go back to the Van Jones threads here and compare and contrast what those same guys doing their damndest to gut Limbaugh and the arguments they make with the arguments they made defending the offensive statements Van Jones made. See for yourelf what a game it all is to them.
–Indeed
So? It says:
“A quote from the following column attributed to Rush Limbaugh about the merits of slavery in the United States came from the 2006 book “101 People Who Are Really Screwing America” by John Huberman. The book does not provide specific details about the quote.
Limbaugh, who is part of a group bidding to buy the St. Louis Rams, said Monday that he did not make that statement, which has been widely reported in recent days.
The Post-Dispatch continues to research the origin of the quote. — Reid Laymance, Sports Editor
So a douchebag reporter uses a quote he can’t source and the paper allows it to run and says they are researching a quote that the person it is being attributed to denies ever saying and for which their is absolutely nothing as evidence he did say it. I’d say he’s a bigger douchebag than you because he’s an actual professional journalist, but you keep repeating the lie even though you know it’s a lie, so you’re on par with him in the douchebaggery category, Indeed.
No, idiot, that’s not what he said. He was criticizing the media. He said McNabb was getting more credit than he deserved based on what the team was doing. Why do you even ask that stupid of a question when you can look it up? The answer to that is because like Indeed you’d rather spread the falsehood instead of getting it right and arguing the point based on what he said. It’s how guys like you and Indeed roll.
It’s scummy, but you two seem to enjoy rolling in the scum.
Bullshit.
http://espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/1001/1628537.html
Goodell, you are a candy-ass. I hope Limbaugh sues the NFL for the complete fabrications of alleged journalism perpretrated by the media and the sissy union that allegedly represents men. Too bad your daddy did’nt raise a man, because the NFL needs one now.
Bullshit??? WTF is wrong with you, English Teacher Jaim? It’s right there in black and white what he said, and nowhere in your link to the story did he say that “the only reason McNabb was a starting quarterback was because he was black”. What is your problem with English comprehension?
Here’s what he said, from YOUR link:
That’s a coaching decision. Limbaugh was addressing the media,and that’s what I said that you for some reason called “Bullshit”. But I guess you are what, reading between the lines? Interpreting a dog whistle that that was what he was implying with a wink and a nod?
Just what is your fucking point, because he didn’t say the only reason McNabb was a starting QB for the Eagles because he was black?
So what is what I said ‘Bullshit’, English Teach?
The Post-Dispatch continues to research the origin of the quote. — Reid Laymance, Sports Editor
‘K.
This is a terrible injustice! All you Rush haters out there want to believe the lies you hear about him. If you listened to him you would know he is not at all racist. He believes people should be judged by their character and performance, not skin color. That comment by Goodell was totally spineless. Don’t you just love his double standards? I love football but the NFL has finally lost me. For years now I have watched the games on mute because of the silly, stupid, childish hype artist who do the “announncing” and “commentating”. This is the final straw. I will be joining millions (yes, millions) of other former nfl fans who will not be watching over paid criminals run around on the football field on Sunday. Go Gators!!!
Indeed, you just posted a link as a defense of your despicable false quotation that only proved your guilt.
And your response is “‘K.”
It’s amazing, you actually do love being embarrassed.
Shorter Indeed:
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The Post-DispatchI continue to research the origin of Indeed’s quote.In which Toby Harnden further adds to Indeed’s embarrassment by knocking Bryan Burwell’s credibility into next week:
The Rush Limbaugh media lynch mob
As Mark Steyn says “Rush Limbaugh should buy the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.”
Steyn also takes apart Media Matters’ sloppiness:
“Joe Biden made a few racists statements that would be on the same Media Matters hit list compiled for Limbaugh and you guys called him a racist.”
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the “Biden said stuff, so Rush isn’t a racist” argument, note also Dennis’ lack of sources for an accusation of racism, despite hour after hour of hammering Indeed for not using peer reviewed academic treatises to support the contention that maybe, just maybe, Rush Limbaugh might have a tendency to utter inappropriate racially overtoned things from time to time.
Serious allegations require solid proof, sources, links! Or so I’ve heard.
Sorry, gumby, I just assumed everyone here but the kindergartners knew all about it. You’ll have to forgive me, I’m not in the education field and my kids are both well beyond even grade school, so I’m a bit out of practice.
Joe Biden is a Farkin Idiot
And yet, gumby, he is the Vice President of the United States.
And represents the Democratic Party.
So, according to many of these hateful people in this discussion, RL is a asshole and a racist. Now, what is it that they don’t like about RL? If you all know anything, you would know RL is NOT a racist. As far as the asshole claim, they can call him what ever they want – no facts needed….
John
Oh, that! See, was that so hard? To actually specify what he said? (Not that you actually produced a quote, so I did have to look a little, but close enough).
But you know, had one of us librul wack jobs had said “I just assumed everyone here but the kindergartners knew all about Rush Limbaugh being a racist asshole”, you would have had a conniption. In fact, you did, even when presented with direct quotes substantiating what even the kindergartners know. I just want to clarify which allegations of racism need drect proven quotes and which can be just taken as a given.
And Joe Biden has exactly what to do with Rush Limbaugh, the racist asshole, being denied the thrill of buying and selling black men via NFL team ownership? That there’s a double standard about Democrats saying racist stuff? The post from Oliver is anything but an apology for what he said, is it. Don’t like racism from Rush. Don’t like it from Biden either. What’s your point?
Dennis – You deserve an award for your steadfast insisting that these claims of RL’s racism be backed by truth. As you know, the name calling alone made by the likes of Indeed, Jaim and etc. tells that these people are NOT interested in facts and truth. They only want to expouse their haterd as they are extreamly miserable souls – and they want America to be as THEY want it be?
I know Rush from Sacramento(20+ yrs). He is no racist. Some of his CLOSEST friends are black. One is a former NFL player, another is a Supreme Court Justice. And there are several more.
John
Some of his CLOSEST friends are black.
Oh my.
Mr. Indeed – Perhaps you can tell me where you find the racism you claim RL is quilty of? Really, what has he done or said that draws you to your conclusions?
So, according to many of these hateful people in this discussion, RL is a asshole and a racist. Now, what is it that they don’t like about RL? If you all know anything, you would know RL is NOT a racist. As far as the asshole claim, they can call him what ever they want – no facts needed….
This calls for another episode of Reality-Based Theater. Yet again, Mr. Serwer:
John, why do you think so many people, and so many many black people in particular, have a problem with Mr. Limbaugh? Take your time; think about your answer. Do you know any blacks who support Mr. Limbaugh? I sure don’t, and it ain’t exactly a Pauline Kael Situation (irony alert). Do you really believe the many, many things Mr. Limbaugh has said are not racist? Did you click the Larry Wilmore link above (it at the very least funny and entertaining)?
Mr. Indeed – Perhaps you can tell me where you find the racism you claim RL is quilty of? Really, what has he done or said that draws you to your conclusions?
Have you not read the thread? Here’s but a sampling:
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=10&year=2009&base_name=confusion_in_dittoland_as_limb#117012
http://mediamatters.org/limbaughwire/
http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/rush_limbaugh
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/daily-show-playing-race-card
That should get you started. Why do you suppose the NFL Players Association reacted the way it did? Ask around. Limbaugh is pretty unpopular on a national level:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114163/limbaugh-liked-not-republicans.aspx
(note Paulie Kael reference above).
In which Toby Harnden further adds to…
OK, stop right there. Toby Harnden? Do you read anyone who isn’t a right wing lunatic?
Next thing you’ll hear that Robert Stacy McCain isn’t a racist buffoon either.
Also worth a read:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-do-you-like-it-now-by-digby.html
Mr. Indeed – As many of you Leftists are in need of reasoning, let me try to help you out. It seems you will promote any discussion of racism conducted by Conservatives as racism, ANY. I have heard many of RL’s discussions in this area and NONE are racist. Try quoting his words and when you do try quoting in the context in which he said them. Repeating the words said or written by somebody and quoted by some writer somewhere and NOT proven to be true is where you guys are in error – and you know it! Hate the man if you will – but lying to promote your hatred, is an act of evil. I will name just ONE black who supports Rush – Justice Clarance Thomas – Oh yea, you guys call him an Uncle Tom, a form of racism.
Dennis is the Energizer Bunny of stupidity and racism.
Mr. Indeed – One more time, Your reference to: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-do-you-like-it-now-by-digby.html – is the same crap. Some writer making claims that are not what was said and in it’s true context. This guy claims that the Owners of teams in the NFL rejected RL’s interest. Not true, not true at all. It was the Commissioner of the NFL and Mr. Smith, the head of the NFL Players Association. Owners were not allowed to vote, nor were they polled. Again, facts and truth are not here. Most sports writers and the NFL management are in fact liberal.
I will name just ONE black who supports Rush – Justice Clarance Thomas
Friend of yours is he?
Did you have any specific problems with the links I gave you? IF you could take the time to read them and let me know, that would be awesome. Where, specifically, was there not enough context? Did you watch the Larry Wilmore video (it’s funny no matter how you skew)? What did you think about the Adam Serwer comment? Why do you think the NFL Players Association does not care for Mr. Limbaugh? Could you at least answer that question? Did you ask around? Take some time and ask around. Did you get the Pauline Kael reference vis a vis the Gallup Poll? Take your time. Really.
This guy claims that the Owners of teams in the NFL rejected RL’s interest. Not true, not true at all.
I’m pretty sure Jim Irsay, owner of the Indianapolis Colts spoke poorly of Mr. Limbaugh:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/colts-jim-irsay-says-he-would-not-vote-for-rush-limbaugh-as-nfl-owner/1
Lede:
is the same crap. Some writer making claims that are not what was said and in it’s true context
What did you have a problem with? Could you be specific? Could you at least fill in the missing context?
gumby,
You’re a buffoon and you prove it post after post. I stated what the loons here calling Joe Biden a racist proved. Go back and reread it. It proves the hypocrisy of the loons here. Not that he said something racist, but that he is a racist. Now he’s a liberal hero. You can go back in the archives by searching on his name and how he was treated both while he was opposing Obama and after he withdrew, and then again after he was chosen by Obama. He was forgiven by the same loons that branded him a racist, a charge that is unforgivable by libs if the accused is conservative. It proves that the loons here crying about Limbaugh are not only insincere in their fervor against him for what they wrongly accuse him of, but that they are also blatant hypocrites.
As for you, you don’t like racism from either one, fine, I don’t like from anyone, either. But one you think it should disqualify him from owning part of a football team, the other you think it shouldn’t disqualify him for being the President of the United States.
And that makes absolutely NO SENSE.
Should be
….shouldn’t disqualify him from being Vice President of the United States.
My dear friend on the other side of the isle, Mr. Indeed. The Colts owner is but ONE of 28 owners. Again, my point the the writer you refered to, claimed the OWNERS rejected RL. I don’t know where you went to school, but if it were true that the OWNERS rejected RL, the math says that would be 15 owners not one. As to the poll you refered, I don’t see what that has to do with you claim that RL is racist. To claim any poll means anything is silly. But, now that you bring it up, who gives a rats butt what 23% of Republicans think. Half of the Republican Party is composed of fools. At least that is much less than the Democrats at 90% fools. I ask you to provide the words said by RL and in the context that he said them to prove your claims of racism.
As to the poll you refered, I don’t see what that has to do with you claim that RL is racist.
It had to do with asking around vis a vis the Pauline Kael Situation.
I ask you to provide the words said by RL and in the context that he said them to prove your claims of racism.
I’ll start with what Adam Serwer said.
Take your time. Ask around. Have a good night.
John,
Good point and a reasonable request. Indeed never has to date taken a quote by Limbaugh and provided the context and discussed it to explain why it proves he is a racist. He only links the same articles or videos over and over again. Actually, no one has.
Indeed never has to date taken a quote by Limbaugh and provided the context and discussed it to explain why it proves he is a racist. He only links the same articles or videos over and over again. Actually, no one has.
I’ll still start with Serwer. And what’s this missing context I keep hearing about? Fill me in.
Listening to the audio clips (see Media Matters, but also the funny Larry Wilmore clip), you hear Limbaugh employ a “black voice” which would make Robert Stacy McCain cringe.
Missing context?
Why would the NFL Players Association dislike Mr. Limbaugh so much? No seems able to answer that one.
Here
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The NFLPA doesn’t give two shits about Limbaugh. The NFLPA cares about their next contract. Opposing Limbaugh was a big step in that direction.
And tomorrow there should be video of Chris Matthews interview with Al Sharpton where he gets into a heated exchange with him and Pat Buchanan and Sharpton is shown to be the race-hustling fool that he is, that the Donovan McNabb flap and the Bloods and Crips comments that he and the NFLPA and Goodell all used as their reason for disqualification because in the words of Goodell, not up to the NFL’s “high standards”, was complete bullshit.
Rush Limbaugh has nothing to do with the NFLPA contract. But that was his talking point on his show today. Good job drones, remember wait until 12pm EST every day to learn what your position is on issues.
Without Al Sharpton, Indeed, you wouldn’t be asking that question, because the NFLPA wouldn’t have been voicing their concern.
“The NFLPA cares about their next contract. Opposing Limbaugh was a big step in that direction.”
Whatever it takes to squish that little bug works for me. He’s still a racist slob, though.
Without Al Sharpton, Indeed, you wouldn’t be asking that question, because the NFLPA wouldn’t have been voicing their concern.
???
The NFLPA doesn’t give two shits about Limbaugh. The NFLPA cares about their next contract. Opposing Limbaugh was a big step in that direction.
???
I wonder what the players think.
Any update on the missing context I keep hearing about?
Dennis – Let me add here that the comment made by RL, “that the media wanted a black quarterback to do well”, and comments before and after that statement, has NOTHING to do with racism. He was stating a FACT, something the media and all their supporters on the left just refuse to allow. This whole thing of reporting MISINFORMATION is the precise cause of why so many people, including many blacks, consider RL a racist. First, many want to hate somebody. Second, the media makes it “fact” by reporting what was said leaving words or sentences out to get what the media wants a person to say, if effect lying. This practice is common today in the mainstream media – the place where or friend, Indeed, gets his vast knowledge.
By the way, all you strong supporters of the NFL and the NFLPA, screw the NFL and the NFLPA. The actions from both these overpaid brat “big corporations” the left love so much, deserve no fans and no support for buying into and spreading lies about a good and advid football fan – Rush. They just shot holes in their feet, big time!
Claiming that a black starting quarterback only has his job because he’s black is racism, plain and simple.
The fact that the wing-nuts here can’t see that is a testament to their obvious racism.
Sorry your party leader just got told to go fuck himself, but thems the breaks. Americans hate Limbaugh. NFL owners hate him. Decent, reality-based humans hate him.
But it’s cute seeing you guys break a sweat trying to defend his bigotry. Keep it up.
Lawyers, Guns, and Money is good as always:
http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/10/my-inalienable-right-to-invest-in-nfl.html
LEAVE RUSH ALONE!!!
Looks like Rush Rambaugh did some hiring to patrol the liberal internet.
Oliver, sorry, but you don’t know that. If the NFLPA could use anything as leverage, they would. As to drones at 12:00, I was posting here today at that time, and this information is posted in several places on the internet.
But tell me if you would, Oliver, how is it that a guy that is the kind of racist you say he is would donate $4.2mm to a charity that benefits a significant number of minorities? The controversy at that time was about the fake ‘phony soldiers’ flap, and had nothing to do with racism.
Donating that much money to minorities and their families is not the sort of thing the typical Klansman does, is it?
Dennis, take that bone out of your nose.
He didn’t say that, Jaim. Again, you have a severe English comprehension problem. If you have a case, you shouldn’t need to make things up to appear worse than it is. It is a surefire leading indicator that you have no case.
You actually posted a link on this very thread that proves that that is not what he said.
Dumb, Jaim.
Very dumb.
“Donating that much money to minorities and their families is not the sort of thing the typical Klansman does, is it?”
Guilt money – it’s like buying your partner flowers after you’ve had an affair. Also, so people like you could point to those donations and say “see, he’s not a racist.”
Thanks for the ridiculous answer, canadian bacon, but I wanted to hear Oliver’s answer to that question.
I honestly haven’t seen anyone make this point as to his donation benefiting minorities, so if was guilt money and he wanted people to point it out that he gave a lot of it to them, he sure hasn’t done anything to get that word out, has he?
Have you seen anyone ask this question or use it now during this left-wing hit job on him?
So all the NFL players (many of whom are white) who want nothing to do with Limbaugh are idiots to? Or simply cognizant of the mancrush you have on such a racist asshole?
Hmm, Dennis or the majority of NFL owners and players. Whatever shall I think?
But please, feel free to explain to all of us how the Limbaugh/McNabb situation wasn’t an example of blatant racism.
And grab a hankie. Your tears of rage and resentment are sweet and delicious, but it’s getting to be a bit too much.
“he wanted people to point it out that he gave a lot of it to them, he sure hasn’t done anything to get that word out, has he?”
Funny how it’s coming up now though.
Self-aggrandizement.
Jaim,
You are such a wormy sleaze. You twice on this thread posted a blatantly false accusation. The first time you said “Bullshit” to my pointing out your falsehood and posted a link that backed me up. Then you posted the same falsehood here 14 hours later.
I tell you again your error and now your only comeback is to ask me how what he said wasn’t an example of racism.
You spend your entire day with kids and then you get on here and still think you can get away with your bullshit.
Put a rubber band on your wrist and sting yourself with it after you get back to your studio apartment to bring you back to some semblance of reality before you start posting here.
Anyhoo, no amount of money donations will make him less of a racist. It’s in his DNA.
Do you have examples of cases where KKK members have donated money to minorities so freely and generously.
$4.2mm is a lot of money. And that was just one we know of and it was a one-time donation. He’s known to be quite generous with his money in general and no one has been able to discern that he’s been discriminatory in who he gives it to.
Again, do you know, canadian bacon, is this behavior common for the typical racist Klansmen?
Anyone – Is there a difference between one who hates another because of color OR one who hates because a person is a conservative? I think these leftist on this site, are in deep hate. They hate all that does not agree with them and they hate themself. Name calling babbling idiots.
“You spend your entire day with kids”
So what? They’re smarter than you. And they aren’t bigots either. Win-win.
Keep crying and stomping your little feet, wing-nuts.
I think these leftist on this site, are in deep hate. They hate all that does not agree with them and they hate themself. Name calling babbling idiots.
Says the babbling idiot pretending to be a psychiatrist.
$4.2mm is a lot of money.
For Rush, that’s probably the equivalent of me giving the Humane Society twenty bucks.
But more importantly, who gives a fuck? I don’t give two shits what charities get his money. It doesn’t absolve him from poisoning the public discourse and generally acting like a repugnant human being.
Sorry, I don’t believe in the selling of indulgences.
Is there a difference between one who hates another because of color OR one who hates because a person is a conservative?
I don’t know if anyone here has ever said that they hate someone simply because they are conservative. Some might. Probably.
But speaking for myself, I don’t hate anyone simply because they are conservative. I hate it when people are fucking idiots, and cannot think critically about information, and aren’t intellectually honest, and are hypocritical shitbags. And in my experience, there are more of those on your side of the aisle than mine.
Says thename-calling babbling idiot pretending to be a psychiatrist.
Had to fix that.
Is Rush paying you guys to defend his sorry, racist ass? Or are you just desperate fanbois who can’t deal with criticism of the Grand Chairman of the GOP?
Either way, you’re being more pathetic than usual. And I can’t stop enjoying it.
“You’re a buffoon and you prove it post after post.”
Ha! Thanks! Taking the high road again? Is this more of that honor you keep talking about, or does that just apply to how other people should act towards you? And is this why you avoid answering direct questions? Too buffoonish?
I was going to say something obvious buffoonery about false equivalence and “look over there”! But… ehhhh. I’m too much of a buffoon.
Buffoonily yours from buffoonland… etc etc
Never called him a KKKer but I’m sure that they listen to his show. As for his donation, I do think that a person can be a racist shithead and make donations to charity. I don’t know how he deals with the inner dissonance though. That would be a complicated story above my pay scale.
And regarding the Pauline Kael Situation, even John Boehner asked around:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/16/boehner-garlic-publicoption/
Allegedly.
Horseshit, mambo.
Limbaugh grew up in no way rich. $4.2mm is a lot of money to anyone, and he gave that in a one-time check to a charity that benefits a large portion of minorities. If he hated minorities, and he has been attacked as the sort of ogre that would do and say anything and everything short of calling them the n-word, then he wouldn’t write that check. I never said anything about absolving him from ‘poisoning the public discourse and generally acting like a repugnant human being.‘, I asked if the typical blatant racist such as he’s been branded here for being would do all the things he’s done to help people that he supposedly hates. If he truly hated them, you’d think he’d give his money that would do things that hurt them, rather than help them.
You offer not one iota of refutation to that flaw in the typical race-hustling commenter’s logic in this example. Nor has anyone so far.
Jaim – “Claiming that a black starting quarterback only has his job because he’s black is racism, plain and simple.” Once again, He did not CLAIM or say what you are implying in the FALSE statement. RL claimed (said) that the “that the media wanted a black quarterback to do well”. What the hell is racist about that statement. This is the point with you leftists. Facts or truth are ignored so that you can allow yourselfs to lie, cheat and steal to get your way. You walk on the side of evil. Like lemmings you follow the your leftist leaders over the cliff and fully intend to take the U.S. and our constitution with you – shame on you – Jaim
The fact that you ignorant bigots can’t see just how racist he is is pathetic. It also means the GOP is doomed. And I couldn’t be happier about it.
Not to mention saying the NFL is just like “the Bloods vs. the Crips.”
And it wasn’t liberals who blocked Rush, it was the NFL ownership, hardly a liberal bastion. They simply want nothing to do with the drug-addicted, racist fucker.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/15/AR2009101502770.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
But please, continue to keep me amused, wingnuts.
Limbaugh grew up in no way rich.
Who said he grew up rich? I said he’s really fucking rich now.
$4.2mm is a lot of money to anyone
No, I don’t think so. The guy’s contract is paying him $400 million over 8 years. That’s $50 million/year. Over the previous 8 years, he was paid $285 million for his contract. This is but one source of income when he likely has much more. $4.2 million doesn’t mean much to him.
Also, Bill Gates.
I don’t much feel like talking about this anymore, and I think I’ve said my peace between this thread and the Fox News GOP TV thread. I’m tired.