Ron Clark Academy Kids Sing About Health Care Reform, Righties Stew
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Conservative bloggers like Instapundit and Real Clear Politics are trying their darndest to make this video into something it isn’t. These are the same kids who sang about McCain vs. Obama last summer, and they don’t advocate one way or the other. Fun stuff.
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Oh God kids singing about health care. This truly is a socialist country in the making. Board up all your windows and doors, and hid in the basement with your kids to be spared by the takeover.
Dang I should have used all caps to make it more convincing. LOL
Considering “whatever pisses off liberals” is the sine qua non of all conservative “policy” ideas and has been for some time now, why do we care whether they’re non partisan? Hell, let them sing “Republicans want my mommy to die because she has no insurance”!! The Ol’ Perfesser will blow a gasket regardless, and if we’re lucky maybe he’ll have a brain aneurysm and rid Tennessee of this waste of state education funds.
Hell, let them sing “Republicans want my mommy to die because she has no insurance”!!
Yes because we all know that if we have health care, we won’t die!
Where is Keith Olbermann and his “Fight Against Death”??
Too funny.
The Ol’ Perfesser will blow a gasket regardless, and if we’re lucky maybe he’ll have a brain aneurysm and rid Tennessee of this waste of state education funds.
Yeah but Glenn probably has health insurance so he won’t die! Haha!
Well the whole world is expecting from Obama more to do for social care, for hungry people, for world peace… But I dont think that he can handle all isues on planet. Everybody should watch own life and not to expect from Americas president impossible.
So are you arguing that people without health care are just lucky duckies? Or are you arguing that because those without care wait until they’re critical – ergo hurting themselves and our wallets – that’s a good thing?
No. It’s quite clear what I am arguing. Those who are going around saying stupid shit like, “People will die without health insurance” as a means of advancing their agenda are idiots.
That includes people like Keith Olbermann. He’s an idiot no matter what he says, but this just adds to his aura of idiocy.
You don’t think the lack of clear will lead to an unnecessary death for some? Because if not…
Oliver, don’t be stupid on purpose. If you want to argue that there could be people dying before their time without access to a health care plan, do so. But please, give “If you don’t get health care, you’re going to die” horseshit a rest, ok?
And you wonder why support for the Democratic health care proposal is circling the toilet.
Those who are going around saying stupid shit like, “People will die without health insurance” as a means of advancing their agenda are idiots.
http://www.physorg.com/news172424058.html
Well, RW bloggers know what’s coming! They read Animal Farm! Well, they saw the animated movie.
When Glenn was their age, he hardly had the capacity to be cool enough to realize how stupid this stuff is.
I get the impression that Glenn is trying to make up for the lameness of his youth. When you’re the middle aged man making fun of grammar school earnestness, then you’re just sort of a loser.
On average people without health insurance die at a younger age than people who have it. No, people w/o it don’t automatically keel over, but they’re at higher risk for just about every disease and medical condition that exists. Because people w/o it don’t go in for routine check-ups that can catch curable condition before it’s too late.
Really Jay, you want to argue against this undeniable fact?
Jay, when people like myself, who actually read history for enjoyment, were saying in 2003 that an invasion of Iraq would be a really bad idea, would lead to an endless entaglement in the region, cost many billions, and wasn’t even warranted based on the evidence, InstaHack and a lot of others in your camp referred to us as “objectively pro-Saddam”.
So, considering that there is orders of magnitude more evidence (as several here have cited) that the lack of insurance due to our rapacious and murderous corporate insurance regime causes the early and unnecessary deaths of Americans than there ever was that Saddam was a threat, I would only like to say this:
Fuck you, you fucking fuck.
To me it’s like this are people willing to help pay for preventive care that will lead to reducing cost in the long run or are people still willing to foot the bill for ER care that does not reduce cost.
I think people will go with the former if they can get over the me, mine, myself thing.
It’s so obvious; Black kids? From an inner city school? with high academic standards? Proud of their President?
They are obviously the result of some nefarious brainwashing cult that should be investigated by the DHS; imagine them infecting ‘real’ American kids with their insidious glee?
The horror; the horror…..
Met the man personally. Regardless of what you think, he brings results to the classroom.
Cons only want to see white faces in the waiting room at the doctor’s office
“Willie” gets it right, at the 2:30 mark of the video.
Shameful propaganda from the same outfit that felt an overwhelming duty to Obama to ‘factcheck’ one of the very first SNL skits to mock his so far futile presidency.
Fuck you, you fucking fuck.
Yeah well…That’s about what I expected.
As for the kiddos singing a song, I can only laugh at the reaction of the left. The same people who shit their pants for 8 years if anything positive was ever said about GWB by somebody that had no political affiliation or happened to be a liberal or Democrat are now lecturing others. Hilarious.
Remember? Suddenly Dennis Miller was “never funny.” Ron Silver and James Woods suddenly were “never good actors.” Bob Geldof suddenly became a “hack concerned only with his own self interest.” If anybody said anything positive, they become persona non grata to those afflicted with Bush Derangement Syndrome. Now they’ve become the “reaction” police? Wow.
Mmmm mmmm mmmm….
Yes, Jay. Even Bob Dylan and Tiger Woods were mocked by the BDS Left for not championing their causes loud enough or forcefully enough.
Suddenly Dennis Miller was “never funny.”
He was funny at one point, then decided not to be to get a rightie talk show. Honestly, you can be funny and be conservative, but so many seem to fail at it.
Dennis: Explain how its propaganda. Not just “ick, I don’t like when people say Obama’s name”. Explain your accusation. Because this video is not propaganda, not even remotely.
Notice how Jay very conviently ignores the initial 95% of my comment? Pretending like his widdle feelings are all hurt.
So Jay, point me to your no doubt voluminous criticisms of the many right-wing assholes including Instapundit for calling all opposition to the Iraq invasion “objectively pro-Saddam”. I’ll wait.
If, as every body knows, such criticism doesn’t exist because you, like most warmongering anti-American mouth breaters, agreed with it, you’ll have to pardon me if I take your pearl clutching over a little pro-health-care histrionics with a very large grain of salt. You fuck.
Rheinhard: the ultimate two words were unnecessary.
Even Bob Dylan and Tiger Woods were mocked by the BDS Left for not championing their causes loud enough or forcefully enough.
Not by me, although Tiger Woods is an athlete whose politics are unimportant.
Bob Dylan, OTOH, changed my life and changed the world when he was in his early twenties, and it would be difficult for anyone to repeat that degree of success or extend it for a lifetime. I’m hearing sour grapes here.
Not by me
Well, you’re not “the BDS Left.” Neither am I. No one else is either. There is no such thing.
…an athlete whose politics are unimportant.
That’s a pretty sound rule. But there are extraordinary cases. Ask Senator Gantt.
Yeah but Glenn probably has health insurance so he won’t die! Haha!
Uh huh, a lot of privately insured have that false sense of security until the invisible hand decides to be the invisible middle finger- perhaps throw in a “heh-heh” when the Perfesser gets turned down for treatment on a terminal condition.
‘These are the same kids who sang about McCain vs. Obama last summer, and they don’t advocate one way or the other. Fun stuff’.
Are you for real? How can you say that this song isn’t advocating one way or another? You must be blinded by ideology, because these kids are being used as props in this schools effort to promote the administrations agenda. With that being said, the worst part of this entire farce is CNN giving this group a forum and stage. CNN is now running alongside MSNBC in the partisan, no objectivity parade. I guess they saw MSNBC getting better ratings (still bottomdwellers), so they figured to gain some viewers by tossing away any veil of objectivity. Ain’t gonna work.
No way that is objective and no way does it belong on an objective news show, much less CNN.
No way that is objective and no way does it belong on an objective news show, much less CNN.
It just isn’t objective, OK? It’s not because it’s not! Obviously!
In Conservative World, this counts as an explanation.
Coming up: Why Rush Limbaugh is totally not a racist asshole and is the most awesomest person ever. That should be a hoot.
I noticed three things:
1) We have to cover those 47 million… That is a patented Obama exaggeration, so if they are singing it, it is propaganda.
2) Partisan support was tried, but Joe Wilosn said you lied Again, the Democratic Party insists they tried to make this a bipartisan effort, but they never sought any compromise with the Republicans. So this is propaganda.
3) And what about my brother – he’s hurt and he can’t get covered … Anyone who is injured can go into an Emergency Room and get care without paying anything. So that makes the song propaganda.
4) Just saying “Obama wants it” makes it partisan and propagandistic.
Did I say three? Sorry, make that four .
but they never sought any compromise with the Republicans
Lie.
Just saying “Obama wants it” makes it partisan and propagandistic
False.
Why is that false ? Wouldn’t it have been more objective to say, “We need it”, or “[Some] people need it”?
Why we should we be motivated to do something, just because “Obama wants it”?
And which part of the plan, aside from the “death panels” (which although they didn’t exist, were somehoe removed from the Bill) was altered , or removed at the behest of the Republican Congress?
So, saying something someone said without advocating the thing is propaganda? Because that’s what you’re saying. And it’s ridiculous. The song talks about the issue – public or private. It’s not advocating anything. And you guys can’t do any better than “Thing!!!!!” C’mon.
@Frank-”3) And what about my brother – he’s hurt and he can’t get covered … Anyone who is injured can go into an Emergency Room and get care without paying anything.”
You can’t get follow-up treatment at the ER they will tell you to go to your regular doctor or a clinic. Of course they will treat someone (because it’s by law that they can’t turn someone away) when they are in critical need, but when was the last time you heard someone went to the ER for chemotherapy, heart surgery, knee replacement, mammogram, colonoscopy, prenatal care, flu shots, diabetes insulin shots, and the list could go on.
The ER is for critical care at that moment and to stabilize the patient for they can be admitted into the hospital.
And I didn’t even talk about the medication you would need to treat yourself from these illness that you also can’t get at an ER.
Critical care and health care are two different things.
@Frank-”Why we should we be motivated to do something, just because “Obama wants it”?
And which part of the plan, aside from the “death panels” (which although they didn’t exist, were somehoe removed from the Bill) was altered , or removed at the behest of the Republican Congress?”
First off 60% of Americans want a public option and a bigger percentage what health care reform period. So NO it not because President Obama wants it.
The only “death panels” that exist today are what the insurance industry use. Nothing was removed or altered in the bill about death panels because there were no such clauses. The only thing the Democrats did was to make it extra clear (for the retards/Republicans) that there were never none in the first place. The only made the language in the bill clearer.
From the bottom to the top : “End-of-life advisory counseling” is a “death panel”; yes they were in the original bill, and yes, they were removed.
And if 60% percent of Americans want it, then saying “we want it” would have been appropriate, would it not?
Critical care and health care are two different things. I did not say they weren’t. What I said is that if “my brother is hurt”, he can “get care.”
And saying “Of course they will treat someone (because it’s by law that they can’t turn someone away)” is irrelevant. They do it, they do it well, and they do it with a great attitude — they certainly don’t give you the impression that they are doing it “because the law says they can’t turn someone away.”
By the way, if you need to be admitted to the hopsital, where I live, you will be admitted, whether you can pay or not. And I did get a CT scan as part of emergency care.
It is precisely because exactly what the Health Care Crisis is not very clear, that people are somewhat leary about fixing it with a trillion dollar price tag – the same way you would be leary about paying $2000 for repairs on your 10 year old car.
@“End-of-life advisory counseling” this is not a death panel. This is counseling between YOU and your DOCTOR. Your doctor would ask you what you would like to happen to you (in the form of treatment) if you so happen to go into a coma, or into a vegetable state, or if you are seriously ill and dying, and if you would like to be resuscitated if you heart stop or not. At times when you are at a vulnerable state that your family wouldn’t have to make the tough decision for you. And many other things.
The End-of-life provision in the bill was about the government reimbursing doctors for having those consultations with their patients about living wills.
Also I hoped you know that the GOP didn’t have any problems in 2003 with End-of-life counseling when the 2003 Medicare prescription drug bill came up.
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/08/13/oh-those-death-panels/
Frank you keep falling for that propaganda that the Republicans are spewing. There’s always a sucker at every corner.
CJ , I suppose it never occurred to you that I have heard what you have said many times, but the wording of the law was that you were required to attend these sessions, if you had not attended one in the last five years.
That means every five years as you get older. The problem I have is that as you get older you begin to feel that you might be a burden on your family, you might not want to place your life in the hands of strangers, and signing a DNR paper might seem inviting.
I also doubt that any doctors, no matter how kind, are going to say to a frail, 90 year old lady: Live ! Live ! Damn the costs! Forget about your family members and what they think! Don’t concern yourself with the idea that taxpayers out there will pay to keep you breathing and eating while you are immobile amd non compos mentis! Live, baby, live!
Nah, you’re a liberal — you are convinced that once I know what you know , I’ll believe what you believe. It is you that are drinking the Kool – Aid , not I.
I taught advance directives, and I was trained in DNR’s and health proxies … I know exactly how real people really feel about them — not what liberals hope they feel .
@Frank-”how real people really feel about them — not what liberals hope they feel.”
“Real people”, “Real Americans” *sigh*. Why is it like that with you guys?
So you have a problem with the provision because every 5 years the person would a new consultation with his/her doctor?
What if something new comes up and a reminder of a consultation with a doctor on serious issues would actually help an older patient.
So are you saying that doctors would force a patient to do something they don’t want to do?
So are you saying that doctors would force a patient to do something they don’t want to do?
You are describing it incorrectly. Frail elderly might be persuaded that a DNR document is the way to go, because of their own feelings that “they have lived long enough” and “might be a burden.”
I might favor “end – of – life counseling” (not to be confused with “death panels” an entirely different thing), if there were a Patient’s Advocate present — not a relative , or a lawyer, but a trained, empathetic senior citizen, present.
I didn’t say “real Americans”. What’s with us guys? We don’t make an assumption that just because there is a law, that every one willingly complies. We do not assume that because there are good intentions, there will always be good outcomes. That’s reality.
So your say we must protect elderly people from themselves? And the end-of-counseling will hurt the elderly because it will allow them to make decisions in what they want to do with the end of their life and not what they family wants? Or are you say doctors are not trained or empathetic well enough to counsel seniors or to give them advice? Please help me figure out what you are trying to say.
Are there fake people walking around or something. That “real people” statement sounds a lot like “real Americans” that I’ve been hearing (during the presidential campaign) and so tired of hearing. Just say people not “real people”. Or unless you’re saying Liberals are fake people?
I have a better idea , C J … figure it out yourself, It is not at all difficult .
Real people are people who try to do the right thing, but sometimes fail. Then are sorry and and feel guilt, because they possess a sense of personal responsibility. They fear authority figures, and often distrust them, but often they can be persuaded by authority figures to do things that are not in their own interest. These are real people.
Liberals are real people , but they live in a different world than the rest of us. In their world, people never do the wrong thing because they want to, but only because they are pressured by outside forces they cannot control. Liberals believe that with a sufficient amount of knowledge, a man can be perfected. The fact there is no connection between morality and intelligence, and the fact they don’t believe the only perfect man there ever was even existed, sways them not at all. They truly believe that if you can imagine something, you can make it exist. They have yet to solve any of humankind’s major problems, yet they persist in believing that it is possible. Like Charlie Brownm they want to believe that Lucy (the government) will hold up the ball ’til it can be kicked, but they always drop it at the last minute — like Lucy.
@Frank- I am trying to figure out what’s in your head….. not reality, which I already know about.
“Real people are people”. Again what’s with the real part?
“Liberals are real people , but they live in a different world than the rest of us.”
And what is the name of that world? Let me guess…..Reality?
“In their world, people never do the wrong thing because they want to, but only because they are pressured by outside forces they cannot control.”
Mmm I always thought that’s the way Christians felt. You know with the whole Devil thing they have going on. So only Liberals are Christians? I for one believe that people have the right to choose, but whether if it’s the right thing or wrong thing that’s in the eyes of the beholder to decide.
“Liberals believe that with a sufficient amount of knowledge, a man can be perfected.”
Perfected? No I don’t think so, but I can’t speak for ALL Liberals, and I don’t think you’ve spoken to all the Liberals to make that type of judgment. Knowledge does help though.
“The fact there is no connection between morality and intelligence”
I can say the same thing about Conservatives.
“and the fact they don’t believe the only perfect man there ever was even existed, sways them not at all.”
So Jesus was perfect because he wasn’t knowledgeable but because God said he was?
Got it.
“They truly believe that if you can imagine something, you can make it exist.”
Yes, imagination can fool the smartest person. Thank God the founding fathers didn’t have any imagination….Wait, were they Liberals? Nay~ Planes, Trains, Moon walk, space station,….Oh don’t mind me just naming off things that people imagine and they made it exist. LOL
“They have yet to solve any of humankind’s major problems, yet they persist in believing that it is possible.”
I didn’t know it was left up for only Liberals to solve. But I wish they would stop believing…that’s the Devil’s work… that believing sh*t.
Lucy pulled the ball not drop the ball. Sorry I am just saying.
Also Frank…cuckoo cuckoo.
CJ: A very clever job of totally avoiding the point. I salute you. And if “You are cuckoo” is the fullest extent of your analysis and critique, what does that say about you?
Restating everything I said in such a way as to ridicule it, when in fact I didn’t say what you said I said, is a stupid, stupid trick. It has been worked and overworked so often on this blog, I’m surprised even you would resort to such a lame, tired stunt.
and the fact they don’t believe the only perfect man there ever was even existed
Frank, not everyone is Christian. Learn to deal with it.
I might favor “end – of – life counseling” (not to be confused with “death panels” an entirely different thing)
You said yourself they were the same thing.
Zython , that was sarcasm. Learn to deal with it.
The firs sentence was use of contrast , not an expression of discomfort. When you get older , you’ll understand . Adolescence is often a time of confusion .
Zython , that was sarcasm.
You’ve contradicted yourself so many times, it’s hard to tell.
‘The same people who shit their pants for 8 years if anything positive was ever said about GWB by somebody that had no political affiliation or happened to be a liberal or Democrat are now lecturing others. Hilarious.’
When did that happen exactly? Bush actually did something someone found positive?
That really would have been news.
‘Liberals are real people , but they live in a different world than the rest of us. In their world, people never do the wrong thing because they want to, but only because they are pressured by outside forces they cannot control.’
You’ve got to be kidding; that was Bush’s ENTIRE rationale for Iraq.
Reality isn’t even a word to you people; it’s just another tool to be manipulated.