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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-183035</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure the people of Chad swell with pride, when they recall that they are major exporters of sisal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure the people of Chad swell with pride, when they recall that they are major exporters of sisal.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bacon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-183013</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OW - &quot;Do you honestly think this is a trait limited only to America? Be real. Everyone either thinks they’re #1 or wants to be #1. That’s a natural instinct. Ask the Chinese.&quot;

Or ask my puny Jack Russel.  She&#039;s the king of the hill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OW &#8211; &#8220;Do you honestly think this is a trait limited only to America? Be real. Everyone either thinks they’re #1 or wants to be #1. That’s a natural instinct. Ask the Chinese.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or ask my puny Jack Russel.  She&#8217;s the king of the hill!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-183007</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zython: Once again, you demonstrate in your feverish attempt to be clever, that you did not undersatnd one word of my comment.

Not a word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zython: Once again, you demonstrate in your feverish attempt to be clever, that you did not undersatnd one word of my comment.</p>
<p>Not a word.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-182941</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Whatever Pres Bush did, just do the opposite, and you can’t go wrong, right, Jaim?&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, pretty much. You could replace &quot;Pres Bush&quot; with &quot;conservatives&quot; and get the same effect.

&lt;i&gt;Perhaps everyone else should be deported to the East?&lt;/i&gt;

How about Dubai? Talk about a win/win scenario.

&lt;i&gt;S M : a better question might be , why does TKB think that the Republicans hate the U.S.?&lt;/i&gt;

Once again, Frank, turnabout is fair play. You guys did it for 8 years, so I&#039;m doing it for the next 80. Deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whatever Pres Bush did, just do the opposite, and you can’t go wrong, right, Jaim?</i></p>
<p>Yeah, pretty much. You could replace &#8220;Pres Bush&#8221; with &#8220;conservatives&#8221; and get the same effect.</p>
<p><i>Perhaps everyone else should be deported to the East?</i></p>
<p>How about Dubai? Talk about a win/win scenario.</p>
<p><i>S M : a better question might be , why does TKB think that the Republicans hate the U.S.?</i></p>
<p>Once again, Frank, turnabout is fair play. You guys did it for 8 years, so I&#8217;m doing it for the next 80. Deal.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-182922</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.</description>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Define &quot;best&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-182903</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, then stop railing against the insurance companies and multinational corporations. Everything they do is towards the effort of being #1. 

Stop railing against steroid use in sports. The athletes are just striving to be #1.

Stop railing against torture and empire-building. This is just our country doing everything it can to be #1.

I believe in striving to be one&#039;s best, but there are ways to be one&#039;s best without spending all your time panicking that somebody is better than you.

I&#039;d rather have universal health care, a high standard of education, and sensible foreign policy...and would otherwise be fine being considered only the second-most powerful nation in the world, thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, then stop railing against the insurance companies and multinational corporations. Everything they do is towards the effort of being #1. </p>
<p>Stop railing against steroid use in sports. The athletes are just striving to be #1.</p>
<p>Stop railing against torture and empire-building. This is just our country doing everything it can to be #1.</p>
<p>I believe in striving to be one&#8217;s best, but there are ways to be one&#8217;s best without spending all your time panicking that somebody is better than you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have universal health care, a high standard of education, and sensible foreign policy&#8230;and would otherwise be fine being considered only the second-most powerful nation in the world, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank DiSalle: &lt;i&gt;my guess is because there is some Democratic opposition to his agenda&lt;/i&gt;

Which supports my point that Obama, contrary to what those pushing the &quot;Messiah&quot; idea and it&#039;s variants claim, is not unconditionally supported.

&lt;i&gt;I have already said that for those for whom Pres Obama is a Messiah figure&lt;/i&gt;

And who are &quot;those&quot;?  How many of them are there?  I&#039;m sure examples can be found of a particularly even vehemently devout supporters (as I&#039;ve said before), but such is the case for every President.  Consider those who believe &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/Thank-God-for-Bush.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bush was chosen&lt;/a&gt; to be Pres &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2106590/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;by God&lt;/a&gt;.

The &quot;Messiah&quot; label applies to Obama no more than it did to Bush and to keep talking as if it&#039;s a wide-spread belief typical of the left is simply wrong.  And merely shows how those opposed to Obama must set up straw men rather than provide substantive criticisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank DiSalle: <i>my guess is because there is some Democratic opposition to his agenda</i></p>
<p>Which supports my point that Obama, contrary to what those pushing the &#8220;Messiah&#8221; idea and it&#8217;s variants claim, is not unconditionally supported.</p>
<p><i>I have already said that for those for whom Pres Obama is a Messiah figure</i></p>
<p>And who are &#8220;those&#8221;?  How many of them are there?  I&#8217;m sure examples can be found of a particularly even vehemently devout supporters (as I&#8217;ve said before), but such is the case for every President.  Consider those who believe <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/Thank-God-for-Bush.htm" rel="nofollow">Bush was chosen</a> to be Pres <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2106590/" rel="nofollow">by God</a>.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Messiah&#8221; label applies to Obama no more than it did to Bush and to keep talking as if it&#8217;s a wide-spread belief typical of the left is simply wrong.  And merely shows how those opposed to Obama must set up straw men rather than provide substantive criticisms.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S M : a better question might be , why does TKB think that the Republicans hate the U.S.?

After all, that is the comment I was responding to.

As to why Pres Obama is &quot;having such a hard time getting things through Congress?&quot;, my guess is because there is some Democratic opposition to his agenda . Maybe TKB should be asking why the Democrats hate America?

After all, he brought it up.

I have already said that for those for whom Pres Obama is a Messiah figure, it is they who see his opponents as racists for example, or haters of America .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S M : a better question might be , why does TKB think that the Republicans hate the U.S.?</p>
<p>After all, that is the comment I was responding to.</p>
<p>As to why Pres Obama is &#8220;having such a hard time getting things through Congress?&#8221;, my guess is because there is some Democratic opposition to his agenda . Maybe TKB should be asking why the Democrats hate America?</p>
<p>After all, he brought it up.</p>
<p>I have already said that for those for whom Pres Obama is a Messiah figure, it is they who see his opponents as racists for example, or haters of America .</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-182870</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I’m genuinely asking us to ask ourselves–if we are not #1, why is that “failure”&lt;/em&gt;
Because to many of us, if you&#039;re not striving for #1 you&#039;re settling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’m genuinely asking us to ask ourselves–if we are not #1, why is that “failure”</em><br />
Because to many of us, if you&#8217;re not striving for #1 you&#8217;re settling.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-182869</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>being &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; best, I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>being <i>the</i> best, I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you honestly think this is a trait limited only to America? Be real. Everyone either thinks they’re #1 or wants to be #1. That’s a natural instinct. Ask the Chinese.&lt;/i&gt;

Chill, O-dub. I don&#039;t think this is a distinctly American trait, but as I&#039;m an American living in America, I view it as an American problem. 

I&#039;m genuinely asking us to ask ourselves--if we are not #1, why is that &quot;failure&quot;? Is Great Britain a failed state? Is France?

I&#039;m just saying that maybe it&#039;s more important for us to &quot;do&quot; our best instead of fretting so much about &quot;being&quot; our best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you honestly think this is a trait limited only to America? Be real. Everyone either thinks they’re #1 or wants to be #1. That’s a natural instinct. Ask the Chinese.</i></p>
<p>Chill, O-dub. I don&#8217;t think this is a distinctly American trait, but as I&#8217;m an American living in America, I view it as an American problem. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m genuinely asking us to ask ourselves&#8211;if we are not #1, why is that &#8220;failure&#8221;? Is Great Britain a failed state? Is France?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying that maybe it&#8217;s more important for us to &#8220;do&#8221; our best instead of fretting so much about &#8220;being&#8221; our best.</p>
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		<title>By: Janus Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janus Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sane criticism of Obama always comes from his left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sane criticism of Obama always comes from his left.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-182859</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.   If Obama supporters were unquestioningly so, they why would he be having such a hard time getting things thru Congress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously.   If Obama supporters were unquestioningly so, they why would he be having such a hard time getting things thru Congress?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/10/05/republicans-down-on-america/#comment-182857</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank DiSalle: &lt;i&gt;Yes, TKB, because going along with everything that Pres Obama wants is the one, true sign that you are a true American.&lt;/i&gt;

And who here has done that?

This is another variation on the &quot;Messiah&quot; and &quot;The One&quot; straw man claims that just don&#039;t bear out under scrutiny.  Are there fanatical Obama followers?  Sure.  Even Bush had his consistent 20%.

But there whole &quot;liberals never think Obama ever does anything wrong&quot; is just an argument made up by conservatives so they can dismiss his broad (but not absolute) support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank DiSalle: <i>Yes, TKB, because going along with everything that Pres Obama wants is the one, true sign that you are a true American.</i></p>
<p>And who here has done that?</p>
<p>This is another variation on the &#8220;Messiah&#8221; and &#8220;The One&#8221; straw man claims that just don&#8217;t bear out under scrutiny.  Are there fanatical Obama followers?  Sure.  Even Bush had his consistent 20%.</p>
<p>But there whole &#8220;liberals never think Obama ever does anything wrong&#8221; is just an argument made up by conservatives so they can dismiss his broad (but not absolute) support.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank DiSalle: &lt;i&gt;But no one can stop Obama — he is never wrong.&lt;/i&gt;

Are Republicans ever, Frank?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank DiSalle: <i>But no one can stop Obama — he is never wrong.</i></p>
<p>Are Republicans ever, Frank?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I tend to think part of our problem is this NEED for America to be #1 in all things forever and ever amen.&lt;/em&gt;
Do you honestly think this is a trait limited only to America? Be real. Everyone either thinks they&#039;re #1 or wants to be #1. That&#039;s a natural instinct. Ask the Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I tend to think part of our problem is this NEED for America to be #1 in all things forever and ever amen.</em><br />
Do you honestly think this is a trait limited only to America? Be real. Everyone either thinks they&#8217;re #1 or wants to be #1. That&#8217;s a natural instinct. Ask the Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to think part of our problem is this NEED for America to be #1 in all things forever and ever amen. It stokes such things as hyper-capitalism and nationalist fervor as people become focused entirely on winning some kind of race--and a sprint, at that, instead of the marathon it actually is. 

The seven other countries of the G8, who we consider our peer group, are Italy, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Russia, and the UK. For whoever is #2 in that group, is life so much drastically worse for the citizens of that nation that we&#039;d consider falling into their slot to be a &quot;failure&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to think part of our problem is this NEED for America to be #1 in all things forever and ever amen. It stokes such things as hyper-capitalism and nationalist fervor as people become focused entirely on winning some kind of race&#8211;and a sprint, at that, instead of the marathon it actually is. </p>
<p>The seven other countries of the G8, who we consider our peer group, are Italy, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Russia, and the UK. For whoever is #2 in that group, is life so much drastically worse for the citizens of that nation that we&#8217;d consider falling into their slot to be a &#8220;failure&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, TKB, because going along with everything that Pres Obama wants is the one, true sign that you are a true American.

Perhaps everyone else should be deported to the East?

We can call it the Democrat&#039;s Final Solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, TKB, because going along with everything that Pres Obama wants is the one, true sign that you are a true American.</p>
<p>Perhaps everyone else should be deported to the East?</p>
<p>We can call it the Democrat&#8217;s Final Solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank DiSalle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank DiSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hereby nominate the name &quot;Killington&#039;s Law&quot; for such a law: Whenever a person suggests that a person &quot;hates&quot; something or someone, because they disagree with person&#039;s suggestion as to how that person or thing should be handled, that should bring the thread to a close</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hereby nominate the name &#8220;Killington&#8217;s Law&#8221; for such a law: Whenever a person suggests that a person &#8220;hates&#8221; something or someone, because they disagree with person&#8217;s suggestion as to how that person or thing should be handled, that should bring the thread to a close</p>
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