’)Here’s UN Ambassador Susan Rice explaining to David Gregory why his stupid right-wing framed question about the need for the UN makes no sense.
The Mini-Rush posture of much of our mainstream media, particularly in the people at the tops of the totem poles, like Gregory, is so annoying and infuriating.
Stretch!
It was all Ambassador Rice could do to keep from adopting the same voice she used to potty train her children. Yeesh.
Stretch’s true strengths lie elsewhere than political discussion leader. Maybe there’s a new show in the works: Dancing with the total fucking asshole Republicans.
And how many UN resolutions have been completely ignored and laughed at???
Please! The UN has no teeth, and when you have UN commissions on human rights being headed by the ambassador of Cuba, the UN becomes a complete joke.
And how many UN resolutions have been completely ignored and laughed at???
An institution is imperfect, ergo, it should be eliminated!!! Dr. Logic strikes again!!!
when you have UN commissions on human rights being headed by the ambassador of Cuba, the UN becomes a complete joke.
Why? Does Cuba routinely torture people? To death? Send people to “black sites” a la some sort of modern day gulag? Hold people indefinitely without charging them? Fucking monsters.
It’s obvious that on that note, any further conversation is pointless. I mean, where do you go from comparing Cuba to the US on human right?
I mean, where do you go from comparing Cuba to the US on human right?
Who did that?
Rice’s example of the necessity of the UN is … tough sanctions against North Korea last June? How’d that work out? Gregory should have laughed her out of the room.
So we’re in agreement: David Gregory sucks as host of MTP. Bipartisanship!!!
I’m in love with that super intelligent hottie.
Susan Rice is a very impressive member of a very impressive Administration.
TKB and Obama, up a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G…
Gimme a break
IMHO, I think Gregory was not being confrontational at all. That was a lobbed softball. That answer may not have been prepared, but I’ll bet 90% of it was stuff she has said a dozen (a hundred?) times before.
Gregory could not have been LESS right wing, unless he said, What do you think of the stupid idea that the UN is useless, because it is full of dictators?”
I was hoping for something more fundamental: “Ever since, roughly, the invention of the airplane, when it became technologically possible for people to travel between countries easily, and for warfare to be waged from the skies, thus killing mass numbers of civilians, someone has had the idea of the world’s nations getting together and talking about things so that things don’t blow up into world wars again. What’s your problem with that idea, David?”
As he stammers:
“By implying there’s something unnecessary about bringing all the countries together, you’re implying that there’s something wrong with other countries actually existing. Is that what you’re saying, David?
No? Then what ARE you saying?”
Granted, it took me about 10 minutes to come up with this, but I’m not UN ambassador. I would have thought she’d have something like this prepared.
You can’t slap the stupid off Gregory. It’s a tattoo.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try.
joaquin: It’s obvious that on that note, any further conversation is pointless.
Yes. If someone shows that your entire argument is stupid there isn’t much point in continuing to make it.
Frank DiSalle: TKB and Obama, up a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G…
You seem to be as knee-jerkingly opposed to all things Obama as you claim others are for him.
“You seem to be as knee-jerkingly opposed to all things Obama as you claim others are for him.”
Heh, well put.
What I seem to be, and what I really am, are two different things – to you and Wilfredo, because you like to pretend you know all about me. You forget that conservatives, unlike liberals, don’t get up in the morning, check their left wing talking points and treat them like marching orders.
Only a few weeks ago, when Pres Obama suggested that the school year be lengthened , I wrote write here in the blog, “Finally, Pres Obama does something I like, and Oliver doen’t write it up.” My comment went unnoticed — perhaps because I said something favorable about Pres Obama .
I favor his decision to keep Guantanamo open. He is now considering moving some prisoners to supermax prisons where they will be on 23 hour lockdown – perhaps then they will yearn for the idyllic conditions at Gitmo.
I favor his decision to beef up the battle in Afghanistan.
I didn’t and don’t favor the stimulus spending bill, which economic observers are starting to notice may be leading to a “jobless recovery”.
I certainly don’t favor his plan to overhaul the Anerican health care system.
Now, where were we with that “knee jerk opposition” thing ?
Actually, Frank, I don’t know a thing about you. Truth be told, you puzzle the hell out of me! There is no sarcasm involved here when I say that you seem like a nice, old fashioned, guy (I clicked to your link), but your point of view seem so contrary when I read your comments that, at its worse, seem awfully and necessarily mean-spirited, and at best, it seems that you’re frustrated about something, it’s as though you prefer some long gone days where things were black and white. Things change, sir. Let me clarify this, I really don’t think you’re mean spirited, this is what vexes me.
Now if you resent that I along with one of the Quakers sort of defended you when things started getting hairy, don’t. I just don’t like to see anybody getting ganged up on.
Now regarding Obama, yeah, I wish there were things he would do different, like stop caving in to the crybabies of the GOP, and be a little more firm with his attackers. So please don’t presume that I’m defending the president when I think he’s wrong on something. But folks like you and Dennis, et al, MOST of the time will attack him with every decision that he makes.
I sincerely hope that I’ve made myself clear.
Wilfredo: Heh, well put.
Thanks. The utter lack of self-consciousness often demonstrated by conservatives continues to amaze me. They can fanatically complain about the fanaticism of others without ever seeing the inherent hypocrisy.
Frank DiSalle: You forget that conservatives, unlike liberals, don’t get up in the morning, check their left wing talking points and treat them like marching orders.
No, conservatives check their right wing talking points and then start to march.
(Gee this talking in absolutes and dismissively belittling the opposition is fun. Why deal with reality when you can just (falsely) proclaim the other side to be automatons incapable of thought, thus avoiding the need to think.)
I wrote write here in the blog, “Finally, Pres Obama does something I like, and Oliver doen’t write it up.” My comment went unnoticed — perhaps because I said something favorable about Pres Obama .
I noticed the comment but, speaking for myself, didn’t bother to reply because I didn’t see any reason to take the bait. It’s Oliver’s blog and he can comment on what he likes. As far as I know he doesn’t look to you or anyone else to find out what he should write about.
It wasn’t “bait”, but it does indicate that I don’t reflexively dislike everything Obama does. I will confess to being an iconoclast, and when people get popular beyond their achievements, I get cranky.
Obama has done little or nothing so far to make me think he is the best and brightest President we’ve ever had , even in the last 75 years, let alone 225 years.
Frank DiSalle: he is the best and brightest President we’ve ever had
Again, I don’t believe you can find support for that being the general view of the left. Better, and by far, than the previous office holder is probably widely held. But bestest ever? See previous comments on the validity (or rather lack thereof) of Republican “Messiah” talking point.
“I will confess to being an iconoclast”
Yeesh. It’s like calling yourself a rebel.
- “What are you iconoclasing against Johhny?”
- “Whaddaya got”
I will confess to being an iconoclast
But may we call you Noodle Noggin?