At least you two were smart enough not to trya and argue that it was .

I fail to see the problem

Yes.

Way kewl!

Well, if he DIDN’T rape her, then why hasn’t he gone on the record denying said allegations?

On just this very thread, Zython is immaturely accusing Glenn Beck of murder and rape,

I’m not saying he did it, but it would irresponsible of us not to speculate.

When the Republicans were in the majority, the cry for bipartisanship was hale and hearty. Now the Democrats have a 60% majority in the Senate — until 2010, I’ll wager — the cries for bipartisanship have faded like morning dew in the sun. This can’t possibly have anything to with the Democratic Party’s desire for power for its own sake, now could it?

I fail to see the problem. Republicans never wanted bipartisanship. That’s our concession to them.

The infallibility of the Democratic Party.

Watergate – Nixon

Iran-Contra – Reagan

Iraq War – Bush II

Katrina – Bush II

Way kewl!

Also, it’s a shame Glenn Beck raped and murdered that little girl.

Too easy. Much too easy. By now, most everyone in the ginmills along the docks of Blogistan has seen the clip of Congressman Alan Grayson (D-Reality) jiving around with the clown show that is The Situation Room on CNN. Let us leave aside the disgraceful pearl-clutching from the putative journalists on the set, and the always useless cornpone chawin’ of James Carville. The fifth clown in the center ring, brought together to lecture Grayson on civil political discourse, is a career goon named Alex Castellanos. In his previous life, he was responsible for the famous “white hands” ad that helped torpedo Harvey Gantt on behalf of lifelong bigot Jesse Helms. That alone should be enough to shatter forever his credibility on the topic of what is permissable political discourse. (Hell, it should be enough that decent people would refuse to treat his wounds.) That this wretched excuse for a public person has a regular gig on CNN should make actual journalists vomit. Instead we have Joe Towns and Gloria Borger and Wolf Blitzer tut-tutting Grayson while their CNN colleague, a race-baiting thug, joins in. Therefore, since apologies seem to be all the rage, let me apologize to Congressman Alan Grayson on behalf of all decent journalists everywhere. I apologize that elite political journalism on television has become so obviously an unbridled whorehouse as to employ Towns, Borger, and Blitzer as eunuchs, and Castellanos as the featured attraction.

He never disappoints.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/altercation/480179

Frank, I think it has more to do with Republicans being obstinate obstructionists (nice alliteration, btw). If they wanted to work with the Dems and have some input on healthcare reform, they had a chance; maybe they could have worked in tort reform or interstate availability of insurance, or whatever, if they were prepared to support a bipartisan bill.

But they aren’t. As Mr. DeMint explains above in those ridiculous comments, they are only concerned with defeating Obama and the Democrats. They are not interested in helping the people, or in enacting good, positive legislation. They are interested in winning. They want to destroy, to “break”, Obama.

And that is just horrible.

So, they’ve lost their right to complain about not being in on the process. They have approached this issue from an unhelpful, malicious viewpoint, and therefore are not to be trusted to bring reasonable and constructive ideas to the floor.

Screw ‘em.

Not bipartisan: Deficit Reduction Act

Bipartisan: PATRIOT Act

Not (ideologically) bipartisan: Civil Rights Act

need more examples?

Good guess, but no. It has everything in the world to do with the lowdown, scheming, no good Democraps winning elections!

I repeat, the Republicans were viewed as unresponsive when they didn’t cave in to all the Democrat’s requests, while they (the Republicans) were in power, and now that the Democrats are in power, the Republicans are viewed as obstinate obstructionists, because they won’t accept the Democrats’ plans for legislation.

Heads Dems win, tails Reps lose.

False.

Not being scrapped and replaced. Instead, providing one more option.

Frank, the major issue is that the Republicans are only interested in defeating Obama. They don’t give a fuck about healthcare reform, otherwise they would have approached the table and had a serious discussion about it. No, instead they screech about death panels and killing granny and how the President “lies” on the floor of a joint session of Congress. You have Mr. DeMint’s comments above, where he indicates that he wants to defeat healthcare reform so as to “break Obama.”

That is completely abhorrent and shit-tastic behavior, and the Republicans deserve to be ignored because of it.

Let it be known that Obama was prepared to make concessions to the Republicans, but they did not respond in kind. Sorry, you guys are in the minority, you don’t get to tell the Democrats what to do anymore, and you don’t get the privilege of passing legislation that you agree with 100%.

Although some with two abutting brain cells understand this but pretend not to and make a show of clutching their pearls, pretending to be outraged, simply outraged, that anyone could possibly stoop to such levels. It’s an Internet Tradition amongst Republican Trolls to pretend not to be aware of this particular internet tradition. Honestly. Heh.

Dennis, thank you for illustrating that you don’t know what you are talking about. The “Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990″ thing is what we call an “internet meme.” It is a joke, and everyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that it is a joke. If you go to the website linked above, you will see clearly that it is a joke.

It stems from a couple things: Firstly, it has origins in the Comedy Central Roast of Bob Saget, specifically the Gilbert Gottfried portion of the show. Look it up if you want. Secondly, it is sniping at Beck using the same tactics that he uses. Do you recall when Beck asked Keith Ellison (a Muslim) to prove that he wasn’t “working with America’s enemies”?

you’re condoning and practicing the very same “you lie, and you lie, and you lie some more, all in the support of a completely ignoble cause.” behavior that you say disgusts you.

If you want to make a favorable comparison between a clear joke, an internet meme, and Republicans’ behavior with respect to the health care debate – then OK. That actually makes a lot of sense. Let it be known that Dennis thinks that Republicans shouldn’t be taken seriously from this point on the topic of health care reform.

Hypocrisy and and pretending to be morally superior are the same things that atheists hate about christians and preachers for these very same reasons, no?

That doesn’t reflect all I dislike about the uber-religious, but it’s a start. This is the most accurate thing that you wrote in your entire post.

you’re being blatantly hypocritical about your being on the side of nobility.

False.

You fail, Dennis. Epic fail.

And somehow you believe that the Republicans are guilty of that because they don’t (as I don’t) accept the premise that the American healthcare system is in such bad shape that it needs to be scrapped and replaced, but somehow the Democrats are blameless when they declare, “We don’t care what the Republicans (and the people they represent – despite their minority, they do represent people) think, we’re passing this legislation, anyway” ?

Difference is, Dennis, that everyone knows that the Beck-rapist think is a joke (or is it??? questions swirl!) told to make a point. On the other hand wingnut lies and distortions are believed by many to be the absolute truth, and you come on here daily cheering and chortling about them.

Cry me a river.

Next time you want to ruminate, Frank, you might consider adding some facts to your cud. Over the last two decades, Republicans in congress have been far more willing to pass bills without significant Democratic support, and over the last few months we’ve seen the Democrats nearly every inch of health care legislation, while the Republicans have not budged at all.

I agree with your broader point: in a two-party system, it’s not good to have one party dominate. But it’s even worse when one of the parties has become completely uninterested in anything but defeating the other side.

Y’hello, Dennis? Yoooooo hoooooo? Gonna answer my question, or did you realize that you were talking nonsense again and decided to ignore my query?
–mambochicken23

I thought it was fairly obvious, mambo, honestly. That and a further explanation would be hard without it getting into personal attack territory, so I blew it off. Everyone thinks their cause to be the noble one. People who defend Roman Polanski think even theirs is the noble one.

On just this very thread, Zython is immaturely accusing Glenn Beck of murder and rape, and linking to a parody site in which they admit they are only trying to spread a rumor and have no evidence or any reason to think he did anything of the sort. Zython has engaged in this very despicable behavior before. He defended himself and thought his actions were noble then, too. He was defended for posting as a conservative blogger and falsely attributing highly racist statements to this particular blogger by other posters here. They thought they were being noble in defending his actions.

And here now on this sme thread you are aiding Zython in spreading those false rumors about Glenn Beck, that he murdered and raped a woman, when you know full well that you are just playing along with the charade. So when you accuse conservatives here of lying for an ignoble cause…

Why are you conservatives always wrong? I mean, holy shit… you lie, and you lie, and you lie some more, all in the support of a completely ignoble cause. Scummy behavior. Pathetic and disgusting.

then you turn right around and engage in the exact same behavior that you claim disgusts you, it pretty much confirms you weren’t being at all sincere, and you’re being blatantly hypocritical about your being on the side of nobility. Hypocrisy and and pretending to be morally superior are the same things that atheists hate about christians and preachers for these very same reasons, no?

What could be more “Scummy behovior. Pathetic and disgusting.” Than spreading a rumor that someone was a murderer and a rapist when you know up front that they are not? I suppose you’ll reply by saying that you think that’s what Glenn Beck does, so what’s wrong with you doing it too, and pretend it’s a noble cause to embarrass him and get him to stop doing whatever it is your cause against him is, but in effect, you’re condoning and practicing the very same “you lie, and you lie, and you lie some more, all in the support of a completely ignoble cause.” behavior that you say disgusts you.

For shame, mambo.

Bush didn’t veto _anything_ because he loved to spend our money. Period. He absolutely loved making the government bigger and more expensive, and Congressional Republicans couldn’t be prouder to help him do exactly that. At least Dems are honest when they say they want to expand the role of government to provide better services to people.

As for Dems in Congress, you should be happy that Harry Reid is such a wimp. He’s scared to pass legislation with merely 51 votes, when in fact it’s entirely fair for him to do so.

But the worm has turned. Obama has had nine month to see that the only thing the GOP wants is for a black president to fail. Be prepared to be treated as such.