When liberals were out of power, we had these conferences called “Take Back America”. They were a way to network, learn activism, etc. I went to a few (and spoke at a panel on one) and the overriding message was about turning America back to its progressive path. Now conservatives are out of power and rather than the kind of talk we had, they talked about the “bloody battle” they would engage in with their guns in order to “Take Back America”.
Slightly different.
Wow, these idiots are too stupid to differentiate between Nazis and Communists. Not surprising at all, since the organizers can count on the general ignorance of their audience not to be able to distinguish one from the other.
And what is it with all this pent up hostility from the wingnuts? They have these violent impulses and they readily advertise their phony bravado schtick. I love the signs the idiots carried in DC a few weeks back “we came unarmed, this time”
Oh yes, Cletus. Please, next time bring your little phallic replacement into DC and see how fast your white trash ass gets hauled down to the DC jail.
Oh yes, Cletus. Please, next time bring your little phallic replacement into DC and see how fast your white trash ass gets hauled down to the DC jail.
or a DC morgue, DC Park Police don’t play around.
This is who they are. Exactly as we thought they were.
Just like Kristol, Cheney, Bolton, Hannity, Ted Nugent, all the bloodthirsty cowards on the right who never served a day in the military are the first to howl for blood to be spilled.
No one here gets out alive…
–James Douglas Morrison et.al.
Psuedo male masculinity wrapped in insecurity. Their reptillian brains must be saitiated!
Scott Roeder is their base
The very definition of IOKIYAD.
Ferris, maybe you should read the fucking linked article. Or if you had, maybe you should try to comprehend it.
This is not the first time the left tried to “Take Back America”.
In the 60’s and 70’s they blew up buildings and robbed banks, murdering bank guards.
The incredibly influential Miss Wertmann, pulling conservative Americans’ strings as she does from her powerful political post in South Dakota’s Eagle Forum, only suggests that people remain armed for what she sees as a “coming battle.”
Ring me up when the right wing equivalent of the Weathermen or the Symbionese Liberation Army come around.
See guys? Terror acts from forty years ago are exactly the same as people advocating gun violence these days.
It’s the left that needs to apologize for the heinous statements from the conference Oliver linked. Because before then nobody had ever done anything bad to anyone ever.
The right is never responsible for their own actions. Don’t you get it?
http://washingtonindependent.com/61121/fear-of-fascism-gay-agenda-dominate-conservative-kickoff-for-midterm-elections
““What would you suggest we do,” asked one activist, “if we are asked to give up our guns?”
“Don’t you dare give up your guns!” thundered Werthmann. “Never, never, never!”
“Give them back one bullet at a time!” called out another activist. The tense atmosphere melted a little bit; the room broke up with laughter.”
See guys? Entirely the fault of the Weathermen. I don’t see how anyone could think otherwise.
Who likes Funny?
Of course, a disaffected authoritarian minority arming-up to take political power would actually be the definition of fascism.
Ring me up when the right wing equivalent of the Weathermen or the Symbionese Liberation Army come around.
Timothy McVeigh in one single day killed more people that all of the big bad boogeymen of the 60/70s ever did, you stupid old fuck.
Burn wins. Frank loses. Again. As always.
The closest I ever came to buying a gun was under Bush. His disregard for Constitutional rights was flagrant, to say the least.
But this is all playground tough-guy talk. Republicans are, in the hearts of hearts, complete bed-wetting cowards. Just look at how many of them actually couldn’t bring themselves to enlist for the war in Iraq that was the game-changer, the most important armed conflict since WWII (by some wing-nut accounts, even more important that WWII).
I’d be happy to bitch-slap any of these losers if they stepped to me. Hell, just look at the record of actual cowardice among the wing-nut trolls here re: Dennis and Frank and their threats of violence, quickly followed by pained withdrawls of said threats.
LOL,
Look out there is a new sheriff in town, well actually Korea, but he is a real badass. Be careful Jaim, you’ll shoot your eye out, actually lots worse with a real one. LOL, what an empty threat.
Frank and their threats of violence, quickly followed by pained withdrawls of said threats.
Frank is the biggest chickenshit on these boards. Old fart talks tough until someone calls him on it, and then he slinks away with his tail between his legs like a fucking cowardly rat. I’m guessing that he takes out his anger on small dogs, beating them with a stick, and pretending that they’re godless liberal elitists. I hope one of those dogs bites his testicles off.
The very definition of IOKIYAD.
There’s a slight difference between political activism and a coup.
Burn, as usual, says the wrong thing, but with vigor and venom.
McVeigh never claimed to be “taking America back” , or anything like it.
He was affiliated with no one – he certainly was not an organization, not even a member of one.
But if you want to claim equivalence, go ahead.
And the name calling adds that special touch of class to your mindless drivel.
Mambochicken, as usual with nothing to say, is stalking me. Perhaps there’s some unspoken desire – the love that dares not peak its name? I’m taken, cock boy! Go troll the Strip!
Funny how I “slunk away,” when it was Martin who never agreed to my terms, or gave me his address.
Typical liberal shitheads , Martin and Mambo – left wing fuck buddies. Your only important debate is who does what to who.
“McVeigh never claimed to be “taking America back” , or anything like it.”
Too true. He was just wearing a shirt saying the tree of liberty needed to occasionally be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. That’s not a call for revolution or anything. I don’t know where anyone got that idea.
Nope. Wearing a shirt like this:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/3812507977_2cd88bf8d1.jpg
has nothing to do with what the right is doing these days, despite it’s popularity among them.
And Frank certainly isn’t once again deflecting from the original point.
No wonder you picked the 60s and 70s as an era, Frank.
You’d do anything to be back in time period of your life when you could wake up in the morning and take a shit all by yourself.
Nowadays, they just send you to one doctor who tells you something bad, who sends you to another doctor who tells you something bad, and on and on.
So tell me Frank, which is worse, feeling your body and mind slowly fail on you, or losing all your dignity in the process? I guess since you have to face this humiliating descent all alone that makes it that much more worse, huh?
Funny how I “slunk away,” when it was Martin who never agreed to my terms, or gave me his address.
I think that Sean might have something to say about this account of the events in question.
As for McVeigh… are you saying that domestic terror only “counts” if it is a part of an organization? That McVeigh’s right-wing domestic terrorism doesn’t count because he wasn’t a part of a group like the Weathermen?
Calling the Symbionese Liberation Army a left-wing group is slander. The SLA was nothing more than a gang of garden variety thugs whose leader had a modicum of imagination. They had no politics at all, other than to recognize that radical politics that opposed an unpopular government made good cover for criminal activity.
They didn’t want to change the world, they wanted to steal a lot of money, The evidence of the low regard the left has and had for the SLA is the fact that no one considers their deaths martyrdom.
Compared to antisocial rightwing violence from the likes of David Koresh, Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh, the Idaho “Freemen,” and all the abortion bombers and church shooters whose statements identify them as rightwingers, the fact that you could only identify two sources of left-wing violence, one of them highly suspect, shows what an aberration it is compared to violence from the right.
Uh Repack,
Koresh was a victim of government aggression, he wouldn’t give in.
Add the Black Panthers to the violent left list along with Paul Watson, the IRA was hardly right wing, oh what about Stalin, the PLO, etc. For that matter Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama and 50% of the murders in this country are committed by young black males, what are the chances they are right wing? Violence from the left is an aberration huh?
See, Repack?
Blacks voted for Obama, therefore the left is responsible for all domestic terror.
That’s because all inner-city crime is politically motivated, and certainly doesn’t have anything to do with financial or situational factors.
Which is why the upstanding women at the How To Take Back America Conference were perfectly justified in calling for use of arms.
Once again, it’s the fault of those dirty brown people. Open your eyes.
For that matter Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama and 50% of the murders in this country are committed by young black males, what are the chances they are right wing?
Careful there Dr. Logic, your mask is slipping a bit.
Interesting fantasy, Burn, not unlike all the other made up shit you sling around here.
Mambochicken, perhaps you would be wiser not to speak for him. In fact, you would be wiser to simply head on over to the refreshment table for a steaming hot cup of shut the f*ck up.
and mambolio, what I was saying was that McVeigh’s apples don’t compare to the Weatherman’s apples.
And if anyone on the left thinks they can take the moral high ground as non violent political activists, then they are stuck dragging the SDS’s and Weathermen’s violence around with them. They are part and parcel with the vandals at the political conventions and WTO meetings.
In other words, it is rank hypocrisy.
You know frank even if I didn’t know you were some bitter old washed up shell of a man, you writing would give it up. It’s just so…stale and moldy, like you.
So why did your wife leave you? Couldn’t stand your drinking, seeing how it ruined everything else in your life?
Why does every single thread have to devolve into a pissing match around here?
Well in Franks case, he can only piss once a day now, so it usually happens in the evening after being at the bar all day.
The denials of Frankenfurter, AO et.al. would be pathetically funny if not for multiple reports of ammo shortages throughout the US.
Who the fuck do you think is buying up all that ordnance? It ain’t inner-city, Obama-voting black men, for damn sure…
Also, memberships in paramilitary and white-supremacist groups have skyrocketed this year. I wonder why?…
Wow, these idiots are too stupid to differentiate between Nazis and Communists.
Well there is a book saying they’s all lefties. Hard covers and everything. Nothing in the social science section with ‘History/Politics’ (Peer review is for wussies) written on the binding has ever steered me wrong.
LOL Indeed,
When you can’t refute the message, attack the messenger.
Message? Like scrawling “FED” across a census taker’s chest?
Southern Quaker : was Burn’s answer satisfactory?
Nah, I didn’t think so , either.
See, liberals never anything because they want to — they are always “forced to do it” by someone else .
It is hilarity,hypocrisy and irony beyond belief to hear the right-wing fascist, white-supremacist, exclusive chosen by god, flag-wrapped, “pseudo-patriot”, book burning wanna-be, jingo-nationalist, freedom hating, propaganda-spewing, diversity-fearing,
nostalgic, terrified idiots comparing Obama to Hitler. WTF?
Some -ist words for them too.
They really should re-visit their Constitution, and their Bible, and give particular attention and meditation to the words, teachings, and the living EXAMPLES of a certain Jesus Christ. WWJD?
Hitler and Mussolini rose to power by angry nationalism, blaming others instead of making positive changes, blaming the rest of the world for their problems; by demonizing, excluding, and persecuting minorities, and spewing a flood of lies, propaganda, and hatred with no compulsion for the support of facts. Sounds just like ….. Obama, right? Right?
Moving right along- they have no claim to patriotism with their
exclusionary view of freedom, and lack of understanding of the Constitution. They “want THEIR country back”. That shows their ignorance of what it means to be an American, and what so many have died to protect. This country never belonged to them exclusively, and it’s certainly not coming back to them if they keep trying to strangle it, and the freedom and light it was created to embody. They have no claim to moral superiority with their lack of understanding of true morality, the golden rule, and the universal teachings of love by Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Buddah, etc.
Give America back to all Americans, Vote out the I.C.B’s(insurance company bitches) in 2010! Outlaw Lobbyists!
Give the soldiers for freedom at ACORN medals for bravery under attack!
McVeigh never claimed to be “taking America back” , or anything like it.
From the Wikipedia article:
Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to inspire revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal government.
Oops.
And if anyone on the left thinks they can take the moral high ground as non violent political activists, then they are stuck dragging the SDS’s and Weathermen’s violence around with them. They are part and parcel with the vandals at the political conventions and WTO meetings.
Well, I wasn’t even born when those guys were around. You, on the other hand, were around, and supported those who were responsible for Watergate, Iran-Contra, torture, warrantless wiretapping, Valerie Plame, and the unnecessary War in Iraq. And that’s not including various domestic policies that hurt people for no reason. Yeah, I think I can claim the moral high ground.
Zython, as soon as you relied on Wikipedia, you lost all the high ground: moral, intellectual, and geographical.
What a maroon !
Zython, you lying sack of shit!
from the Wikipedia Article :
The ENTIRE SECTION entitled “Motivations for the bombing”
McVeigh claimed that the bombing was revenge for “what the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge.”[84] McVeigh visited Waco during the standoff, where he spoke to a news reporter about his anger over what was happening there.[11]
McVeigh frequently quoted and alluded to the white supremacist novel The Turner Diaries. It described acts of terrorism similar to the one he carried out. While McVeigh openly rejected the book’s racism (a roommate said that McVeigh was not a racist and was basically indifferent to racist matters),[85] he claimed to appreciate its interest in firearms. Photocopies of pages sixty-one and sixty-two of The Turner Diaries were found in an envelope inside McVeigh’s car. These pages depicted a fictitious mortar attack upon the U.S. Capitol in Washington.[86]
In interviews before his execution, documented in American Terrorist, McVeigh stated he decapitated an Iraqi soldier with cannon fire on his first day in the war and celebrated. But he said he later was shocked to be ordered to execute surrendering prisoners and to see carnage on the road leaving Kuwait City after U.S. troops routed the Iraqi army. In interviews following the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh said he began harboring anti-government feelings during the Gulf War. In 1998, McVeigh while in prison wrote an essay that criticized US foreign policy towards Iraq as being hypocritical:
“ The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons (“weapons of mass destruction”) – mainly because they have used them in the past.
Well, if that’s the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims that this was done for deterrent purposes during the “Cold War” with the Soviet Union. Why, then is it invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) — with respect to Iraq’s (real) war with and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?
If Saddam is such a demon and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of “mass destruction” — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above.
The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction.[87]
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McVeigh had contemplated suicide on many occasions. Anticipating that he would probably be caught and executed, he referred to the bombing as “state-assisted suicide.”[88]
Nowhere is there any mention of an attempt “to inspire revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal government.”
You’re a fucking liar — totally busted !
Hey Frank, you bitched at somebody for quoting a wikipedia article and then went on to quote the rest of the wikipedia article. But assuming the first Frank answer was the real Frank answer, how about Time?
“Mcveigh: I think one of the intents of the Founding Fathers in keeping to indirect taxation, and really not providing for direct taxation except in unusual circumstances, was to keep government limited. They realized that the more income the government had, the larger it would grow. Our President told us during the subcommittee hearings on crime and terrorism that we should not be focused on Ruby Ridge and Waco, we should be focusing on bombs. Well, that’s the tendency toward a narrow view that is contributing to the problem. Each one of these events that I’ve named are just symptoms. A good physician is going to examine the symptoms to find the disease. And no one’s paying attention to what the disease is. They are not trying to identify it. All they’re trying to do is to treat the symptoms. People have to really analyze, step back and try to think what is the cause of all this? It’s all inter-related, whether it be the events I named or the growing resentment of taxation in America, obtrusive government. There is larger problem.”
“I believe there are many checks and balances built into our system of government. However, I think many of them have been circumvented and right now you have an arrogance of attitude, an omnipotent attitude. An example would be property seizure, asset seizure. If it’s unjustified, what do you have to do to get the stuff back? You have to sue. They know that people don’t have the money to sue the federal government, to go up against their unlimited resources. I think another aspect to that has to do with to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Their just powers. I believe we’ve lost track of what the just power of the federal government is and what it is not. There are too many things that are being given to a democracy that shouldn’t be the subject of a vote, that are inalienable rights that are not to be decided by a central government.”
Frank defending a racist, right-wing, murderous loon like McVeigh. Can’t say I’m surprised.
The babies in that nursery at the Murrah building had it coming, didn’t they Frank?
You fucking piece of shit. You can’t drink yourself to death soon enough.
Jaim , you’re not just an asshole; you’re an illiterate, ignorant asshole. Where did you read a defense of McVeigh?
Parthenon; I was checking on Zython — that’s why you’re quoting Time , because it wasn’t on Wikipedia. You caught me doing nothing, buttmunch.
You’re a fucking liar — totally busted !
I wouldn’t be calling people liars if I were you.
Nowhere is there any mention of an attempt “to inspire revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal government.”
It’s at the top of the page. If you can’t find it, Ctrl-F is your friend.
Frank, my advice to you is to just give up. After over two years, you have yet to beat me. Every post you make only serves to make you look more and more foolish. Just give up while you’re behind.
TNC adds his $0.02
Indeed.
Impolitic just posted one of his tweets, which I think nails it. Dear Wingnuts: No, you can’t have our country back. We’re still fixing all the stuff you broke. Love, Teh Left
Sounds like TNC still has issues from childhood that he should really seek professional counseling for, Indeed. And Weigel needs to hit the gym and do the Belly-Off Diet, along with an appointment with his dermatologist. Talk about a doughy pantload.
Republicans, so kkklassy.
Reparations.
Zython, you anencephalic delinquent! Who ever said I was trying to beat you? This is no game, boy. This is a weblog. You post what you think, and other people post what they think. Sure, people like Jaim, and Mambolio, and Burn and Tyro and S M like to play “King of the Mountain”, but that’s not a real fun game, when you’re the only one who feels the need to be on top.
I do know that in the section entitled ““Motivations for the bombing” were contained the motivations for the bombing , and not that one mentioned .
One of the major deficits of WikiPedia (lazy man’s internet researcher) is that it is badly edited, enabling poorly – skilled searchers such as yourself to find the information you want, in the same article as information that disproves what you are saying.
Come back when you have read a few books, used the Internet for over a decade, as I have, and we’ll talk again. Until then, you’re a liar.
And, oh yeah, that Snopes entry is misleading, as well. That, I will leave you to figure out on your own. But here’s one hint: no one ever said that the “end of life advisory panels” were about ‘euthanasia’.
Sounds like TNC still has issues from childhood that he should really seek professional counseling for, Indeed. And Weigel needs to hit the gym and do the Belly-Off Diet, along with an appointment with his dermatologist. Talk about a doughy pantload.
Hmm…whom should I believe: a thoughtful writer who relates life experience to modern wingnuttery and a journalist who reveals uncomfortable truths about the modern right wing, or an anonymous wingnut blog commenter who responds to the writer and journalist with unrelated taunts more suited to petty elementary school playground bully-cowards. Wow, that’s a toughie.
Scootertrash has some interesting insights but is still suffering from the typical “can’t see the forest for the trees” thing that charactorizes liberal thinkers. I would like to see him expand on his Constitutional views, this is an area where the left is very weak.
Watching the pendulum swing back and forth between left and right is much of what constitutes this idea of taking the country back.
But there is more to it than that. This nation is one of the first “engineered” nations. The product of ideas not tribal allegiance. First and foremost a place where the liberty and freedom of the individual is paramount. There are no kings here, no inherent “right” to anything but your own accomplishments and property.
Nothing comes without cost however. With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. An individual has no right to demand another has a duty to provide him with goods or services. To do so would diminish the liberty of one to enrich another.
This is the intellectual underpinning of our country, the creation of a rather small group of people primarily of English stock. We are a young country barely fully formed. The accomplishments of the people who actually built this country are not lost in the misty depths of an ancient past but for the most part recorded and documented.
The physical formation of the nation, the farms, factories and towns that were created here are from a more diverse group of people built within the intellectual framework of our founders. Again we can define who these people were or are.
Assimilation and an adherence to the intellectual framework, the values, responsible for our country can make an “American” out of anyone. But conversly holding values that tear away at the fabric of our grand experiment are unamerican no matter how deep the roots of the one that holds them.
But there are those who would dismantle our intellectual underpinnings dedicated to individual liberty. They would impose a duty on others to provide the werewithall for newly declared rights, exchanging or destroying old rights for new ones. These are the people that real Americans are trying to take back our country back from.
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And calling people ‘teabaggers’ would come under what category, Indeed? More middle-school than elementary?
Of course, a disaffected authoritarian minority arming-up to take political power would actually be the definition of fascism.
Funny thing about that.
Wow, that’s a toughie.
Still thinking…thinking…
Man, this is a dilemma.
McVeigh never claimed to be “taking America back” , or anything like it.
Neither did the Weathermen or the SLA.
The SLA was nothing more than a gang of garden variety thugs whose leader had a modicum of imagination.
Kind of like the Army of the 12 Monkeys.
Koresh was a victim of government aggression, he wouldn’t give in.
Perhaps so. Prior to that, however, he was an anti-social pedophile who advocated stockpiling weapons and killing federal officers.
the IRA was hardly right wing, oh what about Stalin, the PLO, etc.
And in what American city did all this take place?
Dear Wingnuts: No, you can’t have our country back. We’re still fixing all the stuff you broke. Love, Teh Left
Win
And Weigel needs to hit the gym and do the Belly-Off Diet, along with an appointment with his dermatologist. Talk about a doughy pantload.
Attack the messenger. Got it.
Attack the messenger. Got it.
Just noting the contradiction, Indeed, that’s all.
IOKIYAR.
And calling people ‘teabaggers’ would come under what category, Indeed? More middle-school than elementary?
Hey, they started that.
Sure, people like Jaim, and Mambolio, and Burn and Tyro and S M like to play “King of the Mountain”, but that’s not a real fun game, when you’re the only one who feels the need to be on top.
Don’t forget yourself and Dennis, Frank.
I saw that douchebag being interviewed last night by Big Ed. Big Ed is a delusional gasbag far worse than Glenn Beck, but since no one watches him, he gets the immunity idol from the rest of the state-run media. Ed Schultz kept saying there may be nothing to the Sparkman homicide/suicide incident, but he kept harping on it and harping on it saying if nothing else, census workers were afraid to go door to door doing their jobs. Well, the reason they’re so freaking afraid is because the Left is so overjoyed and panting like my little terrier before dinner time at this story and hoping to pin it on Glenn Beck and Michelle Bachmann. And there’s Weigel spoon-feeding Ed Schultz with everything he wants to be able to make that case, like it was rehearsed beforehand, which it likely was.
That’s why Weigel is a doughy pantload douche, Indeed.
Zero for Thirty.
Your very existence here, nee, your very essence, is a contradiction, Duros.
And Weigel needs to hit the gym and do the Belly-Off Diet, along with an appointment with his dermatologist. Talk about a doughy pantload.
Noted without comment.
Just a reminder, the original Weigel quote on this thread:
Would anyone care from more Weigel quotes regarding the same event?
I could also re-cut’n'paste the original Ta Nehsi Coates quote too, but all it takes is a simple scroll up.
Your very existence here, nee, your very essence, is a contradiction, Duros.
Gee, and all this time I thought it was a free country.
Banish me from your blog, then, Dennis.
Nee? Nee? Really?
It is a free country, Duros. Your contradictions are most welcome, too.
What, should it be neigh?
Now Wilbur will think I’m making fun of him.
…thinking…thinking…
And, oh yeah, that Snopes entry is misleading, as well. That, I will leave you to figure out on your own. But here’s one hint: no one ever said that the “end of life advisory panels” were about ‘euthanasia’.
Wait, no one said that the “death panels” were about ending people’s lives?
Uh, bullshit.
And, oh yeah, that Snopes entry is misleading, as well.
Oh no, another dilemma. Should I believe Snopes or Frank? What to do, what to do…
Zython: I would suggest you look up the difference between “euthanasia” and “do not resuscitate” orders. When you find it, be a good boy and show it to Indeed.
I cannot believe that people can be so wrong, and have no doubt.
Pres Reagan was right when he said, “It isn’t that liberals don’t know anything, it’s that so much of what they know isn’t so.”
Great quote. And so true, Frank.
I cannot believe that people can be so wrong, and have no doubt.
Indeed, I am not the author of any of those quotes…
Indeed, I am not the author of any of those quotes…
Well David Weigel didn’t say ‘em, despite his girth and poor complexion.
It’s really embarassing to hear right-wing zealots quoting Reagan like it makes them sound smart. Why do they wet themselves with excitement over the likes of Reagan and Palin, who never had an original idea in their lives. Mouths for hire, and not by the American people. Why do we have to fix the economy everytime the trickle-downers give it all away during their terms. Trickle-up economics seem to work better, and when they don’t- we at least get to touch the money before losing it to the powers that be. Throw out the I.C.B.’s.
Government OF, BY, and FOR the People!
Ha ha. Hungry poor people are hilarious.
I bet he wasn’t a scientist and didn’t know the figures (obviously), so give him that.
He may have said that before, I can’t prove he didn’t.
Riiiiiiiigggggggttt.
B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut David Weigel is fat!
Put the bottle down, Frank.
It’s really embarassing to hear right-wing zealots quoting Reagan like it makes them sound smart. Why do they wet themselves with excitement over the likes of Reagan and Palin,
Now hang on, that’s unfair. Sarah Palin make Saint Ronnie look like a freaking Einstein. Then again, she’d do that to any slime mold of above-average intelligence.
Dennis: the word you’re looking for is “nay”, you insensitive bastard.
Jaim, do you honestly believe that you have some kind of “right” to make those stupid remarks, because you’re a puny minded liberal, and I am obviously your intellectual superior?
If by “intellectual” you mean “BAC,” then you are correct sir.
Honestly, you recently argued that belief in a sky-god is the same as science. And this is because you are as dumb as a fucking bag of hammers.
Honestly, you recently argued that belief in a sky-god is the same as science.
No, Jaim. He argued that belief in a sky-god is BETTER than science.
I would suggest you look up the difference between “euthanasia” and “do not resuscitate” orders. When you find it, be a good boy and show it to Indeed.
Frank, here’s you defending the “death panel” rhetoric. Now, the Snopes article I linked debunks that claim. Do you wish to apologize your earlier post or not?
Again, I say , that a discussion of “death panels” has nothing to do with “euthanasia” . Nothing to apologize for .
You are incorrect.
Again, I say , that a discussion of “death panels” has nothing to do with “euthanasia”.
So you’re saying that not only that “death panels” refer to a living will, but that this kind of rhetoric is also appropriate?
If I wasn’t sure of it before, I’m sure of it now. Frank, you’re a moron.
Apparently, Oliver’s peace memo has not reached this thread.
But, I will try this again: “living wills” , “end – of – life advisory councils” , “death panels” , are all ways to avoid being a victim of “mercy killing” (euthanasia). That would make them different.
And Oliver wants us all to stop calling each other names.