Census Worker Hanged With “Fed” Sign: Another Glenn Beck Killing?
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The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery. A law enforcement official says the word ‘fed’ was scrawled on his chest.
The body of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old Census field worker and occasional teacher, was found Sept. 12 in the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.
Glenn Beck, along with the rest of the right, has regularly pushed the ACORN-Census conspiracy for months.
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I’m all for wingnuts going Galt on the census. Less federal aid, less representation in Congress, works for me!
Liberals probably did it to make Glenn Beck look bad.
So sayeth The OW.com King of the Double Standard.
Golly, you’re right Dennis. I take back my accusation against liberals.
Just bustin’ your chops, Quibbie.
There’s a hell of a lot of meth abuse in that region. It’s possible someone thought he was too nosy.
Why are we just finding out about this now? 9/12?
Did he scrawl “fed” on his chest upside down? Backwards?
This is not good.
Let’s see: Beck, Census and dead all in the same sentence.
Can you say RICO Laws?
If a pentagon employee is found hanging from a tree with “war-monger” scrawled on his chest, the weekend of a big anti-war protest, how many microseconds would it take conservatives to jump on that?
Yeesh, how sad.
Are they taking the census right now? I didn’t think that was until 2010.
It has to be completed by 2010 – sampling starts early .
Historical trivia: in either 1900, or 1910, it seemed as if there would be no chance of completing the count on time. Someone came up with the idea of using punchcards taken from jacquard looms in France, a man named Hollerith.
Working for Hollerith was a man named Thomas Watson, who took the punch card with him and founded International Business Machines.
It is sad. The radio people are going to be really gross about it too. On all sides, I’m sure.
Dig back through the MMFA archives and you’ll def find more than Beck — though, yeah, he’s got it nailed down. I seem to recall a radio screed a few months ago by Ingraham that was about as horrible as it was illogical.
Why are we just finding out about this now? 9/12?
I don’t believe the FBI released any information about the case until today. Also, he was in a heavily wooded area and wasn’t found right away.
Jaim, it looks from the updates that Sparkman, the victim, was part of the long term crew, the ones that do interviews and such for demographic research. He probably would have been pressed into the sampling part but I don’t know if that part has actually started.
I hope this turns out to be something else than a lone wolf taking cues from bad rhetoric – perhaps he stumbled onto a crime in commission, or a criminal thought he was an agent.
Just bustin’ your chops, Quibbie.
And doing a fine job, too! Splendid!
This is EXACTLY what Hate Radio leads to
Simple as that
I can remember back in the 70′s and 80′s when American Indians would be found with their hands tied behind their backs, dead from a gunshot wound to the head and it would always be ruled as a suicide
I’m sure many of my Black cousins can tell us similar horror stories that have happened over the years
I’m glad they weren’t able to successfully gloss this over as just another suicide, OBVIOUSLY it was not
Let’s see: Beck, Census and dead all in the same sentence.
Can you say RICO Laws?
I know I’m gonna regret this, but I’m not sure I follow you, Frank.
Horrible. Utterly horrible. I have no words.
I have not been living in the US for the last 11 years, and I’m in a place known for violence, but I gotta say that it seems that all you folks back home should be shaking & shivering with fear. WTF is happening over the past few years? It can’t all be blamed on Fox, Bush or even mighty Obama.
This is just sick. Reminds me of a scene from the movie Exodus, where one of the heroes has a Star of David etched into his bleeding chest. Yuck.
A Bachmann fan I presume
I have started a blog dedicated to the memory of Bill Sparkman, billsparkman.blogspot.com. I believe he was murdered, I believe the teabaggers were to blame and I think we need to band together and find the killers. Crowdsourced/swarm investigations have a proven track record – see what happened with BTK. Let’s bring these bastards to justice!
If this turns out to be motivated by a Beckian birther, there will be hell to pay. And I’d like to tell our resident GOP trolls to go fuck themselves if they try and draw a false equivalence between the teabaggers actually murdering a Federal worker and Michael Moore being fat or whatever lame-ass excuse they try to delude themselves with.
That said, there’s some buzz that the area was pretty bad (lots of drug dealers and meth labs). But that doesn’t really make sense either. Try to cover up a drug-related robbery by doing something that would draw the attention of the FBI?
Oh, and fuck Michele Bachmann.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/01/michele-bachmanns-census_n_224175.html
Fear radio + psychos = murder.
Lest we forget, right-winger murders Pittsburgh cops:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/breakingnews/right-wing-terror-man-killed-cops-over-fear-obama-would-take-guns/
Right-winger shoots up a Tennessee church:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,392081,00.html
Let’s pray there isn’t another McVeigh out there waiting to carry out Glenn Beck’s orders.
I am reserving judgment – it’s too early to make any sort of accusation. The majority of conservatives I’ve known have been good people, and none of them would consider this good. But, we also used to have some Freemen types around here, and they are not friendly folk if you’re not ‘with them’. Again, this is clearly a homicide, but we need to let the cops do their job.
Sounds to me like the census worker was mistaken for an undercover narc or ATF.
Possible. But they wouldn’t hang the body from a tree if they were trying to avoid attention.
Condolences to his family. Sounds like he was the definition of a hard-working guy who’d been through a lot.
I know I’m gonna regret this, but I’m not sure I follow you, Frank.
No, I am going to regret this, because I hate explaining jokes, and I expect the usual gang of idiots to run back and find and parse everything I’ve ever posted, and every Google entry with my name on it, so they can fling poo on me, like the excitable chimpanzees they are.
Oliver followed his story of a guy found hanged in the woods with this ominous (but completely irrelevant) pronouncement: “Glenn Beck, along with the rest of the right, has regularly pushed the ACORN-Census conspiracy for months.”
den Den DEN!
So I gave it the mockery it deserved.
RICO laws have to do with conspiracy to commit crimes.
Get it now?
Yeesh. With an exclamation point too. Derangement gone berserk. And not just the killer; some of the folks here. Seriously. Always the same ones.
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On a side note, a recent multiple murder in a small town outside Richmond, VA by a teen ‘horrorcore music’ devotee, showing the dangers of liberalism and its anti-religious fervor.
‘Horrorcore’ Music Adds to Mystery Of Slayings in Va.
–WaPo
Police tell of encounters with Farmville suspect
–Richmond Times Dispatch
…..Virgil said he designed the set for a rap video starring SickTanicK filmed in 2006 at an art studio Virgil was renting in Albuquerque, N.M. It shows a man with a chain connected to the neck of a woman defiling what looks like a picture of Jesus. The actors then pretend to kill religious figures, including a Catholic and a Muslim.
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Perhaps Chris should also start a blog dedicated to the memory of these four brutally murdered individuals, murdered by a liberal crazed nut, possibly left-wing anti-religious zealotry also being a contributor and to blame. I think we need to band together and implicate all liberals in these senseless murders.
As Jaim says, they “should have hell to pay”.
That’s quite a side note, Dennis. Most people would have never found this particular connection between liberal activism and horrorcore, and it takes a very special person to make that deduction. It’s not even mentioned in the article or anything, and yet you figured it all out. The people who could have made that connection based on the total lack of evidence would fit in a small bus, my friend. A very small bus indeed. Congratulations!
Was Glenn Beck mentioned in the AP article on the census worker murderer, abanterer, and did the bloghost and the other usuals here make the connection to Beck based on a total lack of evidence?
Please try to understand and recognize parody.
It’s more sardonic than parody, Dennis. But, more to the point, there IS a stronger connection re: Sparkman. I’ve been hearing for about a year several right based conspiracy theories on how the Census was going to be used for malevolent purposes; it is worrying that a basic tool for planning and research can be so demonized. But it was.
And there is precedent for people on the right fringe to take it a step further than speech – I note the cases of Roeder and Adkisson as recent examples. And that speech of late is getting a lot nastier and meaner in public. So yeah, we’re all wondering whether this is another case of that.
Maybe you think it’s an undeserved connection. OK, but when you’ve seen a ‘liberal hunting license’, it’s not exactly something you can take for granted as often.
I was born in Breathitt County – where was this Wolfe or Powell County?
We need a ‘conservative’ hunting license, so that Dennis will really have something to bitch about………………..
Difference being, Dennis, that we don’t have a history of crazed horrorcore killers being egged on by Olbermann rants, as we do with Beck.
I’d agree that it’s far from clear what motivated the killer in this case, so far.
I didn’t say Olbermann had anything to do with the horrorcore murders, Wilbur, but this site and liberal blogs have been bashing religion, Christianity and Catholics since they’ve been in existence. Regularly. And with zeal.
And the South. And people who live in rural areas.
There’s really no difference to implicating liberal bloggers in these senseless murders than what you guys are doing by blaming Glenn Beck in the census worker death.
I understand, Wilbur, like digby in a moment of candor admitting that liberals saying the were for the war in Afghanistan was purely political strategy and not grounded in true feelings, you guys don’t really believe Glenn Beck had anything at all to do with this murder.
Like OW’s rush to judgment lede for this blog post, it’s just political strategy.
Dennis, let them have their fun. They’re idiots. This is what idiots do. They act idiotic. Only leftist idiots believe that Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly are responsible for the actions of others. Remember, leftist idiots don’t believe in personal responsibility. Everything that happens to somebody or anything somebody does is the fault of another person…unless of course, it doesn’t fit within their ideological point of view.
The guy that murdered a pro-life activist? Well, we could easily say that it happened because of the left wing rhetoric aimed at pro-life activists. Calling them the “American Taliban”, “religious nuts”, “right wing freaks” etc. (they do it all the time and they do it relentlessly) all set the stage for Harlan James Drake to go out and kill. After all, Drake said he was “offended” by James Pouillon’s pro-life activities. So we could easily blame them. Of course, it would be fun to watch them get their panties bunged up and contorting themselves into human pretzels to explain how one is “different” from the other.
But that’s because they’re idiots.
If there was any culture of liberals advocating violence on anti-choicers you might have a point. But there isn’t. The jihads have all come from the right.
Mmmmmmmm-hmmmmmmm.
And Glenn Beck told some Appalachian hillbilly to kill a census worker and hang him with the words ‘fed’ on his chest.
Or that’s what the guy interpreted from listening to Glenn Beck.
Mind control superpowers of a guy who you say is a complete idiot and a moron.
Got it.
And there is a culture of liberals either allowing, condoning, advocating or turning a blind eye to violence in music lyrics.
Dennis : Let’s not forget the liberals who wouldn’t shed a tear, if we abandoned Iraq and Afghanistan tomorrow.
McVeigh was a Republican.
Fear Radio?? They’re expressing their opinion. I’ve listened to some of the Left Wing radio too, and its difference is the side they’re on, and that’s it!! No violence in left wing groups?! How about the “Union Worker” who’s a lefty attacking the conservative Black Man for protesting the health care reform? Look at the main source of Gun violence in America….. Not responsible right wing gun owners. The truth can hurt!!
The only fear is from people who have researched this president, and know where he truly stands on many issues. At heart he’s a Socialist….. Wake up! Most right wing people don’t care about his skin. It has to do with his policies, and beliefs.
Now, before you go thinking I’m this extreme right wing person, know that I was no fan of Bush, or McCain. Neither political party is representing the American people.
Beck killing…. please. The people who did this probably don’t have cable, and stuck to “Fed” because they would have misspelled “Federal Government”. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they were racist idiots, and hated Obama based on skin color, but to suggest that Beck was the cause is moronic. When you start attacking, and wanting to remove news groups with different opinions than that of the government in control, it sounds a lot like a group in Germany back in the 1940s.
Liberals hate the idea of anyone being associated with the KKK. Good, but why? They try to judge an entire race of people based on the actions of a few. If they see a black man kill someone, they assume all blacks do that. Amazing how this one incident of a hanging has Liberals accusing all Conservatives of believing like this. Uh Oh, perfect Liberals judging an entire group of people based on the actions of a few………. UH OH! Want to be called the LLL?
The guy that murdered a pro-life activist? Well, we could easily say that it happened because of the left wing rhetoric aimed at pro-life activists.
And you could easily say that it was all the violent anti gravel rhetoric coming from the left that lead him to then go on and kill a gravel pit manager.
He also apparently had plans to kill a third person who has not been identified so we don’t know whether his third target was due to all the leftist threats against crossing guards, bank tellers or real estate agents.
You’re pretty much confirming the point of just how ridiculous this whole post is, farfroo.
You’re pretty much confirming the point of just how ridiculous this whole post is, farfroo.
And you’ve pretty much confirmed that you’re an idiot.
Jay pointed to a case, the preponderance of the evidence of which, suggests an entirely apolitical motivation for the killing of the anti-abortion activist because he was one of three people allegedly targeted by the killer. His second victim worked at a gravel pit. You want to tell me what leftist rhetoric might have motivated that?
In the case of the hanging, the preponderance of the evidence suggests an entirely political motivation for the killing: It takes a hell of a lot of will to carve a word, in this case “Fed,” into someone’s chest before or after you’ve hung them.
The right has spent a lot of time recently attacking the government, government workers and the census, in particular, using drastic language that suggests the 2010 census will be used by Obama to further destroy America as we know it.
It’s all about the facts and context, Dennis. You clearly have no interest in either one.
I have interest in what your true political motivations are, fafaroo.
And an admitted interest in the weird ways you make leaps of faith to connect the dots in order to confirm your preconceived notions.
More so the way you do it to accuse us of racism than these bullshit eliminationist theories, but this is a close second.
Mind control superpowers of a guy who you say is a complete idiot and a moron.
It’s funny how idiots and morons seem to be susceptible to the suggestions of idiots and morons. Can’t think why that might be. Maybe because they’re idiots and morons?
I have interest in what your true political motivations are, fafaroo.
And clearly you have no interest in the political motivations of whoever it was that hung this census worker and carved the word “Fed” into his chest.
Now that to me seems like a politically motivated act. Who knows. We’ll see. But the basic facts as they’re known now suggests a political angle.
Just taking what we know now about the case, Dennis, doesn’t that sound like a politically motivated attack to you?
It’s funny how idiots and morons seem to be susceptible to the suggestions of idiots and morons.
Yes it is. I don’t hear Glenn Beck telling folks in Appalachia to go out and kill census workers, but apparently you guys do. When it’s not there, you guys say there’s the all encompassing dog whistles. Or in your case, Wilbur, smirks. The idiots and the morons can readily understand these dog whistles and smirks coming from the idiots and morons, you say, this code that they all communicate in.
Makes no sense, Wilbur. Neither you nor fafaroo would ever be placed on a jury if there even was a killer in this case and he was found and brought to trial. You both would, however, be good candidates for guest bloggers on Chris’s new blog, where he has already made up his mind.
Unlike you, fafaroo, I have no idea at this point. I was blessed with your powers of perception. But the implication in Oliver’s lede was to put the blame squarely on Glenn Beck in an attempt to draw attention and fan flames.
Accusing someone of murder without knowing any facts is obviously from this thread something you condone, fafaroo.
It’s not “A Beck killing?”. It’s “Another Beck killing?”.
So to you, he’s already a killer; you’re just debating amongst yourselves whether or not his is another of his murders. Only it’s not really a debate, is it?
Pretty pathetic, really.
Meant to say ‘I wasn’t blessed with your powers of perception.’
Unlike you, fafaroo, I have no idea at this point.
And this is because you have a vested ideological interest in denying the obvious.
There’s a chance that someone could have hung the guy and carved “fed” in his chest as a smoke screen to cover up some other motive, who knows. I highly doubt it.
I do not think beck should be held personally responsible for this or any other killing. But I do believe that violent political rhetoric has a tendency to emboldened some people to violent political acts on both ends of the spectrum.
I’ve pointed this out before, but Jay is an avowed believer in the sentiment that extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.
If it turns out that the guy who hung this census worker was acting, in his mind, in defense of his personal liberty and the liberty of his fellow citizens, it be interesting to see Jay get his “panties bunged up” and contort himself into a human pretzel “to explain how one is ‘different’ from the other.”
Beck is on record accusing Obama of seeking to destroy this country as we know it. I heard Limbaugh declare Obama and his policies to be a greater threat to the United States than any other threat out there including islamic terrorism. This was after Obama’s speech to the UN.
How do Jay and others square this rhetoric with their support of extremism in defense of liberty? There will always be some few folks, admittedly nuts, who come to the conclusion that now the “threat” is so grave, they must act on their beliefs to defend liberty.
What does Jay say to those people? Nothing. All he and you can do is deny reality because you like posing as extremists. You need to pretend that you’re defending liberty with your extreme rhetoric and by listening to the extreme rhetoric you listen to.
You just don’t want to take any responsibility for those people who actually act on the beliefs you yourself hold.
Heaven help us. Our Democracy is falling apart from the bottom up… not the top down.
And this was caused by stoking the fires of hate.
Most people would have never found this particular connection between liberal activism and horrorcore,
Are you kidding? It’s right there on page two!
See? Liberals.
“Glenn Beck murder” is not necessarily a murder that Glenn Beck committed, or one for which he is criminally liable. It applies just as well to murders committed, in part, due to passions that Beck and his ilk deliberately inflame with their irresponsible and hateful rhetoric. Like the murder of the Pittsburgh cop.
Suicide Not Ruled Out for Dead Census Worker
3) Trosper said the initial AP story on the death contains “flaws and errors.” That means it’s possible that the AP’s claim, based on an anonymous source, that he had the word “fed” scrawled on his chest could be false. Asked if that were the case, Trosper declined to comment.
This is worse than your smirk theory, Wilbur.
An anonymous source.
Nice.
Hence the question mark, Dennis. It may be that the guy committed suicide. It may be that FED was not scrawled on his body. It may be that FED are just the killer’s initials: Fergus Evander Donkeytwizzle. We should definitely wait for more news before drawing firm conclusions.
But it’s already far beyond any doubt that Glenn Beck is an irresponsible asshole.
Wow! Stumbled onto this site after reading the AP News on this story and nowhere was it stated that this poor victim was a well known Democrat or that Glen Beck enticed the unknown murderer to commit this crime. When did crimes start to take on a political nature? Was Ted Bundy a democrat or a republican? What about BTK? I read about a lot of murder cases and don’t recall ever reading in the article that the criminal was a liberal or extremist. How about it just being a sick person or persons until we know more? I did read about the drugs being an issue, but maybe (for you liberals) we should just ask Glen Beck, since all of you think he’s behind the evil in the world. I never heard Glen Beck’s brainwashing technique on the radio… maybe we could have him air some of that against eating junk food since some of you believe in his abilities. I’t's talk radio not subliminal TV.
Wait a minute! Those are my inti …
Never mind !
From the Tennessee church shooter:
“Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them….”
“This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It’s the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence.”
“I thought I’d do something good for this Country Kill Democrats til the cops kill me….Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is to kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather. I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life aint worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. do something for your Country before you go. Go Kill Liberals.”
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/knoxville-church-shooters-manifesto
When did crimes start to take on a political nature?
Yes, never in the history of the world has there ever been a politically motivated killing or act of violence carried out for political reasons.
I wasn’t bringing Beck into this, but since people are defending him anyway, I have to say what he’s said on TV and Radio are pretty offensive. In many cases, he’s simply wrong. In some cases, I think what he’s saying are actionable offenses, as with the Pelosi drinking poisoned wine bit. And virtually every day, he’s comparing trivial acts of the government to tyranny, which either makes him a charlatan, or a paranoid.
So, I think it’s time the conservatives on this thread make it known that they do not endorse Glenn Beck or his statements, but agree, as I do, that he has the right to his opinion, however reprehensible.
That’s all. It doesn’t detract from your arguments that Glenn Beck is not responsible for anything anyone else does ever. But it does let us know that you recognize that Beck and other media players like him have gone overboard with their rhetoric, and that he should be admonished for his statements.
Wait a minute! Those are my inti …
Oh my God, it’s all becoming clear now….
I don’t know your middle name Frank, but Damn! Shit! Damn! Shit! Why didn’t I think of that?
maybe we could have [Beck] air some of that against eating junk food since some of you believe in his abilities.
For some of his worshippers it might be worth a shot.. But it’s easier to stoke the fires of hatred than it is to stoke the fires of virtue.
I never said or implied “NEVER in the history of the world has there ever been a politically motivated killing or act of violence carried out for political reasons,” I did say some people give people in the public eye too much credit. Since the investigation is in its infancy, maybe we should wait for the outcome before jumping to conclusions. But since we’re on such a political kick, maybe Beck wasn’t the reason. Maybe it was someone who was so sick of Obama speeches, they wanted to make a symbolic killing to quelch their thirst for silence. That being said, let me be clear: the person(s) who committed the crime deserve the punishment- noone else. That’s it from me.
It’s Emilio.
den! Den! DEN!
den! Den! DEN!
laundry romm! Laundry room! LAUNDRY ROOM!
Put down the bottle, Frank.
“Beck is on record accusing Obama of seeking to destroy this country as we know it. I heard Limbaugh declare Obama and his policies to be a greater threat to the United States than any other threat out there including islamic terrorism. This was after Obama’s speech to the UN.”
LOL, So which part isn’t true? Parsing that statement, Obama is trying to destroy this country as we know it and implement a far left socialist state modeled in part after the “cool” kids in Europe. The expansion of the power of the federal government and the welfare state is contrary to the ideals upon which this nation was founded. And Limbaugh is right, all Islamic terrorists can do is kill a few of us. They aren’t going to defeat this nation and take it over, we have too much military horsepower as long as our leadership has the courage to do the sometimes brutal things that need be done when involved in war. But Obama wants to change the very nature of the country.
“But Obama wants to change the very nature of the country.”
By restoring the tax rates to what they were during the 1990′s?
Yes, he is indeed a radical.
LOL, So which part isn’t true …
No one need ever take Amused seriously again, just in case anyone here still was.
But Obama wants to change the very nature of the country.
Well this is a testable theory. Why don’t you go beyond your bumper sticker a bit and humor us, AO. How exactly is the president intending to ‘change the nature of the country?’
How exactly is the president intending to ‘change the nature of the country?’
In what passes for a.o.’s mind, there’s no ‘intending’ about it; he already has. Didn’t this used to be his gravatar?
Shove a bottle up your ass, Jaim.
Shove a bottle up your ass, Jaim.
I absolutely love comments like these from douchenozzles that continually gripe about the lack of civility on these boards.
You’re an idiot, Frank.
You’re a jackass, Frank.
You’re a hypocrite, Frank.
You’re a putz, Frank.
Enjoy your ignorance and your stupidity while you’re still around to do so.
Europe is STILL capitalist, you know. And Obama is hardly a socialist. Is he asking for the means of production being delivered to the government? The abolition of capital? The dissolution of private property? No? He’s not socialist. Not even in Europe.
Beck, and Limbaugh, and Coulter, and Ingraham, and Hannity, and RedState, and blah blah blah, are just using a big ol’ scare word that will make their audiences shiver with fear. And 99 percent of the time, they will go out and do whatever. Vote really hard.
It’s that odd one percent, the ones who don’t work and play well with others. The ones who take the ‘next step’. Those are the ones I get worried about. Because they are dangerous. They will Do Bad Things, because It’s The Only Way To Preserve Their Way Of Life, whatever that means.
So, again, I’d like the conservatives to take a step back and condemn that rhetoric. It’s false, it’s morally wrong, and moreover, it pushes violence against the innocent. Beck doesn’t listen to us, but he might listen to you.
“Was Ted Bundy a democrat or a republican?”
Republican.
LOL Wilber,
It’s not his color that’s a problem it’s his value system and his politics.
“Didn’t this used to be his gravatar”
Besides semantics you need a lesson in spelling. I’m usually not that much of a spelling nazi but the standard spelling is avatar.
that gravatar pretty well sums up a few folks round here.
Good christ you’re a fucking imbecile Amused Douchbag:
http://en.gravatar.com/
Dear mister spelling nazi, it’s WilbUr. And there is some incorrect grammar in that sentence of mine, but I betcha can’t tell me what it is.
Wingnuts: the more you keep ‘em talking, the stupider they get.
Nancy Pelosi tried to warn us….
Liberal blogs tried to warn us.
David Neiwert tried to warn us.
It’s Happening: Politically-Motivated Violence Erupts in the Streets of Pittsburgh
Arrests, tear gas, blocking traffic, Another potential Glenn Beck organized violent-protest?
I’ll avoid jumping to any conclusions about these protesters until David Neiwert has made his ruling on which side of the spectrum would fall the anarchists and people carrying banners that read “No hope in captialism” and “NO BAILOUT NO CAPITALISM” with an encircled “A,” a recognized sign of anarchists.
Tear gas, arrests, blocking traffic, throwing rocks at policemen and police cars, ‘encouraging members to spend the morning, before the march, to take unspecified actions against local offices of corporations deemed evil.’
Eliminationists?
What’s wrong with these people? They seem to have forgotten to bring their assault rifles, and not a single cop or federal worker shot!
Quick, Dennis, the names of the national liberal news outlets and major liberal media figure that have been egging these trashcan-rolling yahoos on with their fearmongering rhetoric. You know, the liberal equivalent to Fox and Beck and Limbaugh. We must cluck our tongues at them.
Forgot to mention that I detected a smirk on a few of their faces, so therefore they are defacto racists, according to the infamous Wilbur Hypothesis.
Touche’ Wilbur
Big government has been going on WAY before Obama. The Bush administration spent billions upon billions of YOUR money. Bush and Cheney spent it in 3rd world countries with little no chance of developing a free democracy. I’m against Obama’s spending spending spree, But at LEAST he’s spending it in OUR country, on OUR citizens. Listen people, government is NOT your enemy, the huge corporations are, and the lobbyists and media who are now shaping and constructing our politicians. We have been veering away for years from a Government FOR the People, BY the people, and we have been letting them. Conservatives, are fraidy cats for not questioning the Republican party, one reason being they don’t want to be traitors. Dems need to speak up against the left wing too. And MOST importantly, the people must speak UP and finally do something against the special interests and lobbyists who are close to actually running this country.
This moron who killed the census taker…. cmon, that’s like taking a pawn and thinking you’ll be able to say checkmate. we are pawns, government are knights, but the Queen? That’s the oil companies, the pharmaceutical companies, and the mighty military machine, companies like Pratt & Whitney, Sikorsky and Halliburton. The King? Probably Israel.
All you red state conservatives should think twice about who your enemy is.
Signed, a patriotic legal moderate Republican with a BA degree.
Touché my derrière (note: touché, not touchez). Smirks, like words, acquire meaning from context. So on the face of a racebaiting Republican politician it means one thing. On the face of a crazed anarchist it means “Dennis and a.o. are weeniebags”.
No one seems to remember the largest government bureaucracy ever made. Department of Homeland Security.
Where were your precious Don’t Tread On Me flags then?
The King? Probably Israel.
All you red state conservatives should think twice about who your enemy is.
Signed, a patriotic legal moderate Republican with a BA degree.
All right, thanks for playing.
I was responding to Jaim’s insensitive, insulting and now thrice -repeated attempt at a jibe , when I said “Shove a bottle up your ass, Jaim”
If you would care to go back up the thread and see which of his remarks instigated my remark, it is easy to see — my name is there.
Others, like mambochicken, and formerly Rex Mundane and “news” something, used the same tactic of following me around the threads, making up irrelevant posts designed to insult me, and, perhaps, thinking they will drive me off.
Personally, I love the idea that a man who calls himself a reasoning, scientific man turns into a slavering, rabid lunatic, when he reads a comment by someone he calls his inferior.
Let’s see who bugs out every other day from here on in, Dr. Memory. And, S Martin and Jaim, if you want to waste your time trying to piss me off, that will only hasten the day that others here see how useless and pathetic you three are.
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Ah, Fwank is all upset now.
Jaim, you made Frank angry. You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry.
You also wouldn’t like him when he’s happy. You wouldn’t like him when he’s sad, silly, joyful, fearful, disgusted or gassy. I guess you just don’t like him, though it does appear that the feeling is mutual, judging from the “stick a bottle up your ass” comment..
I think Frank could use some counseling.
Jaim is the first one who I read the sees the point.
If this was drug or criminal activity that Bill stumbled on to, why would the killers then advertise their criminality so blatantly? It makes no sense at all. Drug dealers or others who try to hide their activity would not display the body, but dump it in some other location so as not to draw attention to themselves. Drug dealers are not rocket scientist, but they know enough that if they want to stay in business they need to do so quietly. This is not Mexico where the Federal Authorities are going to get scared off by some cartel of criminals.
They know if they kill a Federal agent, they will have the whole wrath of the FBI upon them and they will be caught. Everyone knows this. So why did someone do this?
Because they want the publicity for their cause – they want this thing to go national. And if they get caught in the process, they are willing to go to prison and/or die for their cause.
The cause is this blinding haltered for what they call the FED and Glen Beck didn’t invent it. Remember Timothy McVeigh? This is his crowd too. But Glen Beck does feed into this emotional rage of hatred for anything Federal to build his TV program and increase his ratings. He feeds into it and fuels it at the same time. And, Glen Beck, it isn’t nice and it isn’t Christian. It isn’t Christian to feed into peoples hatred for your own personal profit. “What profits a man to can the world and lose his own sole?” I don’t care how popular you are – you are wrong.
That was suppose to be gain not can. “What profits a man to gain the world and lose his own sole.” interesting slip though.
Crusty Dem , you just wasted keystrokes and pixels. I think this is none of your business, and I think your comment is inaccurate, and I think Jaim is a childish, inept excuse for a man.
I hope that brings this direction of the discussion to an end.
Frank, stop posting drunk. Please. It makes baby Jesus cry so hard.
Frank, I’m commenting on the internet, of course I’m wasting pixels and keystrokes. But if you think a reasonable response to someone suggesting you’re commenting while intoxicated is “stick a bottle up your ass”, you really do need some help. If you don’t like someone, I’d suggest you ignore them.
Isn’t this thread evidence that Hate Rhetoric works? Everyone here is on high alert to sniff out whether someone is a Liberal or a Conservative. These should be traits, not names, but hate radio has polarized us so much we feel we need to be one or the other, and attack the opposing side. No one really tries to find the reason in someone else’s comments. They just want to know which side they’re on, so they can either agree or disagree. And it always has to be 100% right or 100% wrong. Which is silly.